Despite what you might have heard, Russiagate isn't going away

You might have been under the impression that Russiagate flamed out with the anti-climatic 2019 Mueller Report, that failed to prove any major Russiagate theories.
You couldn't be further from the truth. Here's a sampling of headlines since the Report.




These are pretty patheic, but the winner for twisting yourself into a pretzel-logic is elsewhere.
The most bizarre post-Report Russiagate story comes from, of all places, the NY Post.

We’ve spent years obsessing about Russian meddling in our politics, and now it turns out that the original FBI investigation into the Trump campaign that morphed into the Mueller probe may have been instigated, in part, by Russian disinformation.
...If this was the product of a deliberate Russian intelligence operation, it has to be judged one of the most audaciously clever of all time. The operative who first conceived of it deserves high honors, indeed, is a cinch to become a Hero of the Russian Federation.
One footnote says that the FBI received word of potential “Russian disinformation influencing Steele’s election reporting.” The FBI was told multiples times that information in the dossier was inaccurate. One warning said a subset of bad information was “part of a Russian disinformation campaign to denigrate US foreign relations,” another that falsehoods were the work of Russian intelligence “infiltrat[ing] a source into the network” providing information.

A second unredacted footnote says that the FBI has information that an unnamed Steele source “had historical contact with persons and entities suspected of being linked to” Russian intelligence.

I'm not even sure what to do with this.
Anyway, Pelosi and Hillary continued to push Russiagate right into 2021, as if they actually believed it.

"I hope, historically, we will find out who he's beholden to, who pulls his strings. I would love to see his phone records to see if he was talking to [Russian President Vladimir] Putin the day the insurgents invaded our Capitol," Clinton said.

The former secretary of state then asked Pelosi if she agreed with setting up a "9/11-type commission" to investigate "everything" that happened.

"I do," Pelosi quickly responded, before reiterating her belief that "all roads lead to Putin" when it comes to President Trump.

"I don't know what Putin has on him politically, financially, or personally, but what happened last week was a gift to Putin because Putin wants to undermine democracy in our country and throughout the world," the speaker said. "And these people, unbeknownst to them, are Putin puppets."

Finally, this all came crashing down after special counsel John Durham’s indicted Democratic lawyer Michael Sussmann for lying to an FBI official. After five years of bullsh*t, Russiagate has finally ended.
Hell, even Blue Maga, neoliberal Bill Maher has thrown in the towel.

"But did they involve themselves with other countries?" Maher asked. "I feel like, yes, we play dirty politics, but we always had one rule: no ringers, keep it in the family, do what you do, but don't bring in the guy from Russia. ... Look, a lot of this stuff we found out or we're finding out was reported erroneously."

"You mean Russiagate?" Frank asked.

"Yes," Maher exclaimed.

The HBO star then shared his "theory" that Trump was "both an idiot and crazy" and that all of the former president's rhetoric about Russia didn't go any deeper as he and many liberals believed.

"We, like, thought that it had to be more of a conspiracy. It may turn out that most of it really was just what he did in public," Maher continued. "Because it's so insane that he was, 'Russia, if you're listening... ,' and when he admitted he fired [FBI Director James] Comey, when I look back, I'm like 'Wow, we lived through this?'"

Notice he says this like he wasn't one of the loudest voices pushing these lies, and that it was impossible to know they were lies before now.
But it's over now...or not.


As I pointed out in my new This Land newsletter, with the Sussmann indictment, Durham failed to deliver what the Trumpers most craved: evidence that the FBI’s Trump-Russia investigation was fraudulently orchestrated by a nefarious cabal.

That's not just moving goalposts. That totally redefining what goalposts are.

The Trumpers and anti-Russiagate propagandists keep grasping for straws. They are like QAnoners waiting for Trump’s reinstatement as commander in chief… But even if Durham were to find evidence of inappropriate actions related to the FBI’s decision to investigate Trump associates in connection with Putin’s attack, that would not change the fundamentals: Putin mounted a covert assault on American democracy to assist Trump, and the Trump camp, which falsely denied this attack was happening while it was secretly interacting with Russian operatives, was complicit.

What is one to make of all this?
If I was to learn the correct way to interpret this information, I would have to go back to the source.


Hmmm. Only one diary on Russiagate this month. What pearls of wisdom does it contain?

There were reasons for Robert Mueller’s many unpursued obstruction of justice charges. This may be the beginning of a long march of indictments coming. Shoes are going to drop, including those orange-stained elevators.

Oh, Thank Gawd. I was afraid the shoes would never drop.

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for people to wake up.
Keep it local. Vote local.
The asshole, corrupt thieves, eventually come from your local municipalities.
Cut that shit off at the source.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

Go to alternative media, find the truth.
Corporate capture before our eyes.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin

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@Fishtroller 02

Clinesmith did that deed to get a warrant on Carter Page and he was indicted early in the investigation.

But what needs to happen to decapitate Russia Gate is for a big exposure of the memo Brennan gave to Obama telling him that Hillary was going to make up the Russia Gate scam. And the congress transcript of CrowdStrike’s CEO saying that Russia did not remove any info from the DNC computers. That has been buried deep.

10 months after Trump left office he’s still getting daily news coverage. Once Obama left they didn’t continue to talk about him. So what’s the deal with that? Are Democrats doing this to scare the base that he might return to power again or something else? If they actually wanted to make sure he couldn’t they would have held off on impeachment until they could prove his involvement in the capital fiasco. They wouldn’t have waited 10 months or more to schedule the hearings they’re doing soon.

But no matter. There will always be people who think that there is a Russian boogeyman behind every republican including Moscow Mitch and Leningrad Lindsay Graham crackers.

The more Rachel talks about Russia Russia Russia the lower her ratings will not fall. I’m thoroughly disgusted and disappointed about how many people fell for the biggest propaganda BS in my lifetime. My family has gone nuts over it and I’m not interested in being around them anymore.

What was the biggest giveaway that it was false? The number of CIA goons on the media payroll talking about it. The new WMD scam. Duh!!

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

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and may i rent some of your brain's RAM, please?

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@snoopydawg @snoopydawg
is to keep the focus off Biden.

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this week that our polarized viewpoints in America are now like religious beliefs, and that no matter how clear the information is, our viewpoints become more rigid. Our ability to change our minds seems impaired.

I don't know whether he's right, or if what he means is that the Blobstream media says Americans believe the Russiagate shit, even if that's another one of their lies.

As far as I know, though, Americans' trust in the media is close to zero, according to polls, or below zero. So how does it make sense that Russiagate is believed or believable?

I agree with Snoopydawg that even people we love and respect appear to be locked into their belief about the subject Russiagate and all it connects to. No matter how many indictments against Russians fall apart, no matter how many FBI officials are convicted of providing false evidence, no matter how much key testimony under oath is released showing media stories were false, it doesn't matter. The core belief is that Putin is Hitler, Assad is Hitler, and Trump is Hitler. When you have a belief like that, the details just vaporize.

I'm the same way about Hitler. If Victoria Nuland and our State Department testify under oath that they funded, trained, and armed Nazi military groups in Ukraine, for me they are Hitler. I totally believe they are Nazis, a fascist element in our government, and that all the color revolutions they support in Europe are the efforts of world fascism.

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Russiagate will have proverbial legs for several years so long as it is profitable and can be used for political ends. Just saw a clip of Greenwald on Fox talking about YouTube banning anti-vaxers. Maddow tied it back to Russia which is pushing anti-vax memes.

Which makes one scratch their head. Why would Russia spread anti-vax propaganda when they are selling their own vaccines throughout the world including Western countries. But then it is Russia so no logic or proof need be provided.

I occasionally will take a look at DK. It seems that the official writing staff is not publishing diaries on Russiagate. During Trump's admin, there were daily diaries on Russia by staff writers. There are one or two posters trying to keep it alive but not too often.

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It worked. Secret

With all that internal squabbling by both parties they failed to notice that Putin's buddy, Xi Jinping, was stealing America's lunch.

By the way, the two great friends dined together at the 20th anniversary Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) summit in Tajikistan.

Xi Jinping: “Today we will launch procedures to admit Iran as a full member of the SCO.”

Vladimir Putin: “I would like to highlight the Memorandum of Understanding that was signed today between the SCO Secretariat and the Eurasian Economic Commission. It is clearly designed to further Russia’s idea of establishing a Greater Eurasia Partnership covering the SCO, the EAEU (Eurasian Economic Union), ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) and China’s Belt and Road initiative (BRI).”
Diesen evokes in detail the parallels between the Russian and the Chinese strategies. He notes how China “is pursuing a three-pillared geoeconomic initiative by developing technological leadership via its China 2025 plan, new transportation corridors via its trillion-dollar Belt and Road Initiative, and establishing new financial instruments such as banks, payment systems and the internationalization of the yuan. Russia is similarly pursuing technological sovereignty, both in the digital sphere and beyond, as well as new transportation corridors such as the Northern Sea Route through the Arctic, and, primarily, new financial instruments.”

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