Clinton brain rot advancing faster
Yes, indeedy, Miz Clinton aims to lose this election even faster than before--ah, well, that's what dementia does for you. Take this latest genius touch onto her already flailing campaign. Does anybody think that Hillary's calling one-half of Trump's supporters "deplorable" a smart move? I'm looking around the room and not seeing any arms raised.
So now Hillary thinks that emphasizing her previous gaffe is going to do her campaign more good than harm. What, you say, can this be true? Now Hillary has escalated "the basket of deplorables" into the "basket of FUCKING deplorables"? Now don't you think that voter's already incensed by her stupid remark are going to be more endeared to Hillary because she keeps emphasizing the point.
Yes, some people backing Mr. T are deplorable, but Killary has some deplorable characters backing her--Henry Killinger, Negroponte, Kagan and the whole Neo-Con crowd.
I am embarrassed to say that Howard Dean has changed the abbreviation M.D. to Mighty Dumb:
“Half might not be the right number, but it ain’t far off,” said former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, a surrogate for the Clinton campaign. “Should she bash the electorate? Probably not. Is she going to lose votes over it? I doubt it very much.”
So, Howard, what is the correct figure? Is it 41.73%? Or maybe only 38.39%
Hat tip to Jay Elliot: apparently Her Heinous did not start antibiotics until after she collapsed and was spreading germs to political opponents such as a 5 year old girl. Good going, Hillary!
Edited to add Jay Elliot's info.
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She spent about 30 mins in the public eye yesterday
23 min speech + 10 min presser.
And her press conference ended abruptly after 10 freakin mins. There was some commotion in the back of the room and she decided that was it. Bam, she fled the scene. And she acted annoyed that they asked about her passing out on 9/11.
If 30 mins is all she can muster, the 2 hour debates are gonna be tough.
PS. Is it me or does Clinton look cross eyed in the pic at the " genius touch " link.
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Euuuuew...
PS. Is it me or does Clinton look cross eyed in the pic at the " genius touch " link.
WOW. Enlarged that picture - and it is damn weird....yes, her eyes look strange, crossed, probably.
Cross-Eyed Hellery.
I wonder which medical theory is consistent with crossed eyes? Her eyes were fine inside the plane. Maybe the sunlight caused it.
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With Apologies To Ian Anderson
Who would be a poor man, a beggar-man, a thief
If she had the rich men in her hand?
And who would steal the candy
From a laughing baby's mouth
If she could take it from the money man?
Cross-eyed Hill'ry goes jumping in again
She signs no contract but she always plays the game
She dines in Goldman village on expense accounted gruel
And the Wall St. Bankers guarantee her rule
Cross-eyed Hill'ry finds it hard to get along
She's a poor man's rich girl and she'll do it for a song
She's the rich man stealer but her favour's good and strong
She's the Robin Hood of Main Street, helps the poor man get along
Cross-eyed Hill'ry goes jumping in again
She signs no contract but she always plays the game
She dines in Goldman village on expense accounted gruel
And the Wall St. Bankers guarantee her rule
Cross-eyed Hill'ry
Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.
Fri, 09/16/2016 - 7:33pm —
Fri, 09/16/2016 - 7:33pm — neoconned
ROFLMAO! Pure genius! (And I'll bet that Ian Anderson would agree.)
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Her eyes looked wierd on the plane footage
from yesterday. I couldn't say they were "crossed" but they weren't both looking in the same direction. One eye was off a bit, like you see with "wandering eye" people.
I don't think she is obligated to debate.
It would not disqualify her to decline the debates.
The future Feminist-in-Chief could merely say that Trump is too disgusting and unAmerican to even talk to, and to debate him would debase American politics and damage the nation's reputation, which is a potential threat to national security.
At the moment, I think Democrats of all stripes would eat that right up. So would the GOP establishment.
There's buzz about this possibility.
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maybe soon we won't be obligated
to even hold elections.
It's not as if they make any difference anyway. n/t
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And Putin is also too disgusting and un-American to talk to?
Heads of State, I thought, were supposed to suck it up and deal with talking to asshole leaders of competing countries (note the sports and business reference). Since I am neverHill, refusing to debate him looks like running away. I have no doubt Hillbots would lap that right up, sayin' 'yesss!'.
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Yes. Hillary has declared with some vehemence
…that, as President, she would never engage with dirt like Putin or other national leaders who are not capitalist enough or who block the Neocon dream of US global domination.
The Monster of Libya will not change her stripes. What you see is what you get. Leaders who betray their people to benefit the Corporations are generously rewarded. The rest are deposed or killed.
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This gets my vote.
I think the article was written by his mother, but still. If he is trying to blow up the greedy globalists, I'm in his corner.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
To Helll with Diplomacy
Why would Hillary waste time with diplomacy when we can bomb back to the stone age? It is more profitable that way too. /snark (or not)
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
I'd like to know if his popularity
even got to single figures in Ukraine and the Baltics.
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
Well, considering that TPTB
Well, considering that TPTB are moving to eliminate democracy and life on the planet out of pathological greed and control issues, any enemy of theirs setting out to destroy them is somebody I'd actually 'want to have a beer with' - and I quit drinking years back for health reasons and normally couldn't be paid to risk it. And if I got arrested, I'd probably get to meet people like the members of Pussy Riot while in durance vile... guess nobody's perfect, huh? Unless the principles of democracy and of public-protective law are applied equally to everyone, of course, as they somehow don't seem to be in various democracies these days.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Yup. I've been predicting
that exact outcome since the
conventioncoronation. She'll come up with at least 5 excuses, so that each of her surrogates can use a different one: pneumonia, flu, dog-ate-homework, too-unamerican, wardrobe-malfunction, long-trip-to-the-bathroom, look-its-Halley's-comet...The "debates" simply aren't going to happen, I think. And nobody but us will notice.
Since I think Trump is Hill's shill, I think it's Trump who's
going to decide not to debate. Then oh well, she can't help it, can she? Trumpy wouldn't debate, what can she do? Well, debate third partiers, sure, but they don't get to 15% in the rigged polls, so they don't deserve our time. Tra la la, she'll just have to go relax on the fainting couch while being fanned with $100 bills.
BTW if a third of millennials want Jill, and about a third of adults are millennials, how is Jill only polling about 5%?
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hills' shill
it could have been something the clintons and trumps were concocting during the photo ops of the two couples, i.e. he would run a campaign that would never go anywhere with the voters
of course, given his ego, even if that were true, he's now realized how strong a candidate he's become and
is "serious" about getting the job
No way.
She can fudge the format and limit the number, but if Hillary ducks the debates entirely she's toast.
If she was up by as much as she was in August she might be able to pull it off, but with her numbers tanking she can't afford to take the hit. People have been waiting for the Hillary Trump debate all year, and backing out creates a lot more problems than it solves.
I can see the Trump ad now: "How can Hillary say she's ready to serve when when isn't even ready to debate? What more is she hiding? etc. etc."
Ducking the debates will also just keep feeding the health concerns, and IMO Sick Hillary is even more trouble for her than Crooked Hillary.
She'll be there. She may be strapped into a chair and jacked up on more stimulants than a meth head on the last day of Burning Man, but she'll be there.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
lol. Great final image. You left out the catheter.
On the other hand, I'm not convinced that
If they kept the volume on the propaganda as loud as possible and Hillary's Super Delegats called it a "Presidential decision" in the interests of National Security, why would her supporters not back her?
If they pulled some terrorists out of their hat, it would seal the deal.
Always, a Presidental successor from the same Party as the current President signals More of the Same to the people. Obama kept them safe, That's her ace in the hole.
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Maybe, but I just don't see it happening.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Since she "fully recovered" in four days,
there's no out left in the believability arsenal that's become the Clinton campaign. How many "pneumonia relapses" can they manage, without having her look more and more like a sick puppy every day?
Ducking Hillary will dominate every news cycle...
and all the non-stop speculation about why she won't debate will just keep hammering home the health angle, the corruption angle, the 'strength' angle*, and so on until she finally cries uncle and faces Trump.
The Clinton people must surely see that, and if they don't they're far more down the rabbit hole than any of us even know.
Bottom line: Hillary v. Trump is the Main Event at the Quadrennial Coliseum, and the mob will have its circuses.
*I'm still waiting for some Trump surrogate (maybe Rudy or Christie) to use the line:
"How can Hillary stand up to Putin when she can't even stand up?"
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
She's not, but she'll look chickenshit
And she'll look chickenshit because SHE IS, and with good medical reason. She can't show up with the special sunglasses on and she would not survive a two-hour stint without them, under the hot lights and on camera.
Hmm. Well, if by some mischance a debate does break out,
I suspect that she'll be wearing Zeiss-blue contact lenses (they are all the rage in Paris this season, I'm told), and have a remote-control med pump or two that can shoot her up with a cocktail of anticonvulsants and speed, carefully concealed inside her omnipresent barrel-jacketed pantsuit...
I wish I wasn't this cynical. Don't have much choice at this point, though.
Do they really make those now?
Or are you saying they'll make a set just for her?
(hey, now that would be cynical, wouldn't it?)
Given that she has more of
that sweet, sweet, untraceable SuperPAC/charitable foundation money than Gawd hisownself, anything is possible, isn't it? Grinding up a set of contacts would be a walk in the park...
Whee! We just started up a new conspiracy theory! Isn't it _fun_?
If there is to be a debate
you better believe it. They better get grinding, or she'll have to back out.
Because I don't care how much whining they all do about the eeeeeeeeeevil Trumposaurus, if they duck the debate, it will be because she can't handle being under the lights and standing for 2 hours.
Oh, she won't be standing.
She'll be leaning/sitting on a stool -- I'd bet money on it, if I had any.
And there will be ample "bathroom breaks." Any attempts to question either will be met with "SEXIST!"
invite Gary and Jill then!
If Hillary declines the debate, perhaps they'll invite Gary and Jill to join Donald. Not debating when you have the opportunity to, is really thumbing your nose at the American voter. Is Hillary afraid of Donald or just that arrogant?
When have the Clintons ever
When have the Clintons ever stopped thumbing their noses at voters? Actually, Hillary probably doesn't even bother thinking of doing that; too busy collecting corporate/billionaire money while making 'confidential' donor promises and enjoying unlikely-to-vote-her voter suppression/elimination and the manufacture of her own votes to care what that deplorable non-billionaire public thinks of her as long as she can con enough into making a 'win' for her look good.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Exactly, Ellen!
I don't understand all the comments about 'what a stupid way to get voters' regarding Her Heinous and digging on millennials or us Bernie Bros.
She does not need real votes. She creates them.
I said earlier that my fear is what will happen in the streets should she steal the GE like she did the primary - especially in places like Texas where Trump will (or should) win, and where I live. The possibility of riots scares me!
Yea she kinda does...
Look crosseyed in the pic...
Also one eye droops a bit...
Probably a sign of that brain damage...
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
TIAs can cause it.
That is DEFINITELY a droopy eye
I'll bet she didn't even have that a month ago. Any takers?
I had to see it for myself
Mind you, I'm in multi-tasking Hell over here, so I didn't spend a lot of time looking, but here's a picture of Mrs. Clinton on July 19th 2016 (from CBS News)
Here's the picture above again,
I can probably find a closer head shot for July, but the one above is really clear--plus she's speaking on a stage, under lights. You might expect to see squinting under the bright light, but...I don't see it, do you?
Excellent visual diagnosis that I did not pick up on
Two interesting points here"
1. Right eye does not abduct (i.e., deviate away from the midline). The main cause of this is 6th nerve (abducens nerve) paresis, which is extremely common in head trauma but in itself does not indicate brain damage--only isolated 6th cranial nerve injury. Remember she did wear those Fresnel glasses for a few (or more than a few) weeks after her mTBI. With fatigue, it is not unusual for the abduduction to temporarily fail and then resort to a normal appearance.
2. The droopy right eye is definitely not related directly to 6th nerve paresis. It I could see the pupils more clearly (preferably in a darker setting), I might be able to tell about pupillary size. Right now I speculate (after all, with her non-transparent medical record release) that's all we can do. My speculation is that she has Horner's syndrome, a condition in which there is decreased input of the sympathetic nervous system to the affected eye. The hallmark of the syndrome is a droopy upper lid and a constricted pupil. Causes can range from congenital (unlikely, it would have been discovered long ago), carotid artery disease, neck surgery, and brainstem lesions,etc.
You don't get Horner's from the flu/pneumonia/dehydration. She is sick physically.
I had a sudden diplopia "event"
that one oph thought might be due to 6th nerve paresis. I was referred to a neuro who did a SF EMG and found ... nothing.
Surely, if 6th nerve disease is the cause, that could be immediately diagnosed in the same way?
(the diplopia/polyopia was finally resolved by cataract surgery and a toric implant. Doc had a hunch, and he was right.)
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
Absolutely.
Many causes for 6th nerve problems, including astigmatism. 50% of cases occur spontaneously and resolve spontaneously. Hillary's visual issues have been continuing beyond the range of "innocent" medical event.
As long as we're speculating
- and not pretending to essay a diff. diagnosis, how about Myasthenia gravis?
droopy eyes, leg weakness, diplopia, loss of balance, ...
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
I'm game.
Since all we have is Clinton BS, let's speculate some more. Myasthenia Gravis (MG) can cause all the symptoms named by Tapu. The disease can be unilateral and/or asymmetrical.
I can't believe I'm doing this, but...
I think she's squinting. The sun is on that side.
I loathe this woman like no other, but I've made that face many times in my job as a dog walker.
Let's not get so desperate for 'clues' that we dis-credit ourselves in the process. Besides, I think she'll fall of her own hubris and sooner rather than later. Just a gut feeling, but it's persistent.
Despair is NOT an option!
You may be right...
The lack of truthfulness and transparency bringing this speculation upon her is her own doing...
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
eyes
her left eye does look different - effected eye. Don't know of course. What was commotion? A scripted excuse? Got her out of there didn't it? Let's see now, the debates could be modified so candidates could sit - easy fix. After all, she will still be recuperating. She looked awfully unpresidential in her last forum boosting herself up on that stool - very awkward. I almost could equate it with some farm gal boosting herself onto the tailgate of a pick-up. Rather a deplorable visual. (not the farm girl). May need theatre curtains on this next one to further hide her walking, balance, lack of energy. Didn't get a dx. from her doc for use of B12 - would that be for liver? Just a thought. Usually injected for pernicious anemia.
B12 is classic fast-energy "feel-good" stuff,
especially if also combined with (unmentioned) stimulants.
(emphasis added) http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/vitamin-b12-shot-side-...
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
B12 is not just for "feel-good" reasons.
It's important for nerve health, especially if one has a nerve disease, e.g. peripheral neuropathy, which can give rise to balance problems due to numbness in the feet.
I'm not making a Dx, just throwing out ideas for consideration.
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
Some other B vitamins are given to ailing livers.
They were given to mine. I was mis-diagnosed with pernicious anemia years ago and injected B12 monthly until a new Dr said I did not have pernicious anemia, never did. Now I still take oral B12 when I think about it. And now after mild brain injury, B12 daily.
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B complex
as a pill or in liquid form? I prefer the liquid b/c the pills were real "horse-chokers" that I can't swallow.
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
B-1 and folate are small pills.
And I find 1000mg B12 a nice chewable. Ca and Mg are large pills. And I broke a tooth on a Mg-gluconate biggie. ONly $750 for the fix. Sigh.
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I take B-12 sublingually
Place a tiny pill under my tongue and it dissolves. Supposedly for better absorption.
Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.
duplicatum erat
n/t
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
I can't bear to go back and look at that clip
because the whole thing was so scripted from head to toe and I literally almost hurled my dinner trying. But was there ever a camera shot where we saw her from head to toe?
Is there video of that? N/T
If you are asking about video from white plains airport
see this comment. Cross eyed at 25 sec mark.
http://caucus99percent.com/comment/174672#comment-174672
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You're right
Her eyes are definitely not focusing properly in this picture. I've noticed it in other photos and video, as well.
Fri, 09/16/2016 - 6:45am —
Fri, 09/16/2016 - 6:45am — CitizenOfEarth
Isn't that about how long she spends at her quarter-million dollar, all-expense-paid-for-her-entourage-as -well speeches? Luckily, Bill and the corporate appointees apparently will be running the Presidential show while she naps or throws tantrums/nukes - not much debate about that, I suppose.
I don't think I've even seen anything like that outside of cartoons. I'd be feeling sorry for just about anyone else upon seeing that, but I have sympathy only for the victims of her policies, for whom she has no empathy.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
The Establishment Pushed the Propaganda too Hard
The lies, bullshit, false equivalences, and pandering fear —they are all starting to wear off much too soon! This puts the election outcome into play. This is a great danger for them, and I don't think it can be held back without an extraordinary manufactured tragedy to terrorize the American People into compliance. Would Our Overlords have the nerve to do that? They certainly have the means.
Here are the facts of the terrible reality they are facing:
Donald Trump was the Populist candidate from the right.
He overthrew the Republican Party and sent the GOP and Neocon Establishment running to hide under Hillary's skirts.
Trump won because American voters supported him overwhelmingly with their votes. Despite having 16 competitors in the Primaries — he still walked away with the same level of votes that Hillary did, with only two competitors.
Bernie Sanders came in third, with many fewer votes than Clinton or Trump gathered. (Obvious irregularities were involved. In a better nation, he would have come in with as many votes as Trump did.)
At just five weeks out, the Americans are again becoming immune to the propaganda being pushed. There is not enough time before Election Day to thoroughly bamboozle them again.
Americans overwhelming support an outsider, a populist, for President. We knew this going into the Primaries. The votes demonstrated this. The two Populist candidates won more than half of the Primary votes in a field shared with 19 establishment candidates!
If the American people emerge from their current propaganda coma by Election Day, they will again vote overwhelmingly for the "Populist," just as they did during the Primaries.
You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. I don't know why this election is so complicated for the pundits. It's easy to see what the American people want, even though they are holding their cards close to the chest.
The Greens are aligned to this movement, with a Populist candidate of their own. For this reason, they will win more votes by a greater percentage than ever before.
The Democratic Party Establishment did not make a mistake when they chose Hillary Clinton as their candidate. She was the only hope any of them ever had. If they go down in defeat, the Party will be returned to the American People.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
Trump is a Neoliberal Conman disguised as a Populist
All these blue collar Trump supporters are in for a rude awakening. And as Horrific as I think trump will be, I do think Hellery will be 10x worse.
Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.
His kids say that is not so, that he is the good guy.
But what would they know?
They're Democrats.
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"I don't know why it's so complicated for the pundits"
the view from a high rise apartment in NYC is very different from that on the ground in flyover country.
It's only the spin that's complicated
for our pundits. They know, and they see it, but they simply cannot admit it. To do that would be to risk that high rise view from the penthouse, after all, and then one of them might just end up in flyover land, and they ain't gonna let that happen. They'd far rather twist themselves into knots trying to spin the whole thing and are even willing to lose real credibility in the process. And there's Paul Krugman this morning in the NYT, right on time with how Obama's economy is really recovering and how median incomes have "rapidly risen" by whatever percent they're touting today. I still read that rag to look at the headlines and I did have to read that latest swill from Krugman just to see that he'd say. An editorial rather light on substance but full of praise. GAG.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
For some reason, that brings to mind a political science prof.
Mark Blyth, a Scotsman teaching at Brown, has advice for the super rich:
I love the guy. He has also described austerity in a very succinct phrase...."complete horseshit".
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
This farce of an election
is 'complete horseshit'. It's not that hard for ordinary people to figure out. I've never seen anything like it even on a local level. Putin did it, yeah right. It's insulting. The sad thing is that some people even those who were for Bernie will vote because Trump. Irrational fear when you look at the agenda and policy of the thoroughly owned and rotten Democratic party. the elitist press and courtiers and the pols themselves are so out of touch with the electorate that they end up just pissing people off. Lot's of funny stuff being posted from all ends of the fake political spectrum. Of course The Hairball is unfit for public office but so are the Clinton's.
Literally insult to injury. I don't care which of these insane puppets wins or loses. The story line at this point is ludicrous. What's tragic to me is that the so called progressive pols are out their stumping for the Clinton's and the Democrat's, Bernie included. Their all lying and this is not what democracy looks like. Everybody with an unwashed brain knows it. Maybe I'll write in Putin.
Nah I'm voting for Jill Stein and down ticket for every socialist, Green, or Indie who at least is running on liberal issues. We have a chance to get rid of some of these so called progressive pols that are wrecking the city and state with their blatant corporate crookedness.
What's the point of dwelling on The Mad Bomber's symptoms and illness? It's kind of gross and not really important. She was never fit for office and has always been sick in mind body and spirit. Even if she drops dead they will replace her and the austerity global killing spree for profit and power will continue. Their absurd latest talking point is blaming the millennials for Trump's surge in the polls. Interesting times and who knows maybe the Giant Meteor will win. Meanwhile why not form coalitions and solidarity with all the people who are not buying this obvious partisan farce.
Grins...
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Disagreed that Trump "overthrew" anything or anybody
I still think he's in this as a ringer, and now TPTB don't know what the fuck to do about the whole thing, as they never intended Trump to win. His reaction to Hillary's collapse on 9/11 was, IMO, very touching, if the frame you put around it is that he gave a shit about his friend Hillary (not snark).
Other than that? Spot-on, particularly this:
I thought to myself, "He as nothing to lose
"…and everything to gain by reacting tenderly toward Hillary." But I'm generally cynical during elections.
I would agree with you, he seemed pretty authentic about it, while much of his base doesn't share his empathy. Hillary has been bashing him as hard as she can since the convention ended. To the point that policy issues are no longer discussed.
I think the Dems would like to avoid policy issues altogether before the election. Trump makes that possible, so to that extent he is providing her cover, whether intentionally or not.
If Americans start to think past the propaganda and analyze why the GOP is threatened by Trump, for example, then she won't be able to hide behind Trump anymore.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
Following from your last paragraph/sentence,
thank FSM that no major news outlet (other than WSJ who is turning out anti-Clinton stuff now) has any interest in dissecting either campaign./s
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The only thing Trump is making possible,
IMO, is the possibility that this compromised, lying, and quite ill woman will not be our next President.
I see a real problem with him staying in at this point. Unless the vote counting is rigged to a great degree, the guy will win. Christ, the #HillarysHealth hashtag is still generating regular hits today!
Hillary is Trump's best hope...
for winning. If he had to run against a decent Democratic candidate, he'd lose. So of course he's going to be rooting for her to stay in.
They always,
always overdo it.
The multiple-stories-in-one-day undermined this whole thing for them, particularly Big Dog's gaffe on CNN that this stuff was a "frequent" occurrence. People are not going to "come around" to their spin this time. Not about such a serious health matter as this.
Humans are complicated.
Rasmussen did a poll a week ago on the importance of candidate health to voters. The results were astonishing but not surprising.
September 8
I'd like to see that same poll since 9/11...
I'll betcha 10,000 Quatloos...
it hasn't changed much. True believers only see what they want to see in their candidate. Her dead faint was described as a "wobble" in most of the MSM. Few Hillary fans bother to look behind the headlines.
Then they're ONLY asking her confirmed voters
and nobody else.
Her campaign is not going to survive the 9/11 Faint. Too many lies in too short a time in the couple of days after, and the Spin Machine forcing her off her sickbed is not going to be able to cover it up until November. This is karma coming home to roost....
It's Complicated for the Pundits Because It's Off Script.
This reality has not been approved by the corporate sponsors, therefore it is not reality and can't be happening.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
Well, half - or more - of Her supporters are Trumpophobic,
which, I fear, is a disease that would only be curable by a resounding Trump loss. That's looking less and less likely as the polls narrow down (or spread out, because the "other two" campaigns are slowly gaining at the expense of both Trump and HRC).
The four-way races actually look worse for Her than binary polls. There's a very real, very discontented group out there that, if they ever coalesced around just one candidate and showed up in force on Election Day, could really change the picture.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Why can't Sanders leave his promise to support Clinton behind,
and reenter the campaign as an independent? He is the only one who could beat Trump and Clinton. Can't for the life of me understand why Sanders and Stein don't work together. Even morally and ethically I think the responsible thing for Sanders to do is running for President again on his own. He has done everything he could to be supportive of the Democrats and Hillary Clinton. But it looks more and more as if that decision was more damaging for the political process than responsible and protective of the voters.
It's a shame. And the whole thing a disaster. Better to have this kind of chaos before election day than having to deal with all the slow motion disasters that will come after the elections.
https://www.euronews.com/
Good question
Putting aside the fact that it's probably too late for him to get on enough ballots as an indie, I suspect very highly that he was told, in no uncertain terms, that was not an option for him.
with all your fancy rules in all the different states
couldn't every voter at least just writein his name, independent of him running as an independent? Or is that also not possible? What a macabre joke of a voting system this is.
https://www.euronews.com/
I'm with you
It's rather looks like it's been deliberately set up to disenfranchise as many Americans as possible, doesn't it?
Yes, in the states that allow write-ins, which I don't think all of them do (though I am not sure how many there are).
I want to also say I read somewhere not long ago that Bernie would have had to file in each state to be considered "a vote in the write in section" of a given ballot. I mean, seriously, how about that shit? You have to tell the states that on their write-in section, someone "might" write you in? Jesus, I'd never heard that before, and hope I misunderstood it....
You didn't.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
I think...
a lot of it is calculation(s) regarding power in the senate. Bernie recognizes that Hillary sycophant, Chuck Schumer, will be the next majority leader. If Bernie had reentered the race as an Independent (or Green) and had lost, he would have lost seniority in the Democratic Party (only corporate Dems can betray the party and not lose seniority, see: Lieberman, Joseph I). As Ranking Member of the Budget Committee and a strong chance to take the chair of the HELP Committee, Bernie was set to lose the ability to make positive change inside the senate.
You are correct. n/t
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Even IF Sanders could waltz in now,
…he would split the Democratic vote and Donald Trump would win for certain.
I think that window closed for good at the convention.
What the Democrats really needed was a Candidate with coattails to shift the balance of power. Either candidate could have pulled that off, as long as the vote was true. Bernie because he owned the prevailing trend as an Outsider. Hillary because she owned a Party where loyalists are rewarded.
When the election process went crazy and unreliable, all bets were immediately off. Neither Bernie nor Hillary could move forward. The party had sabotaged itself.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
Indeed - since Indies are the
Indeed - since Indies are the largest voting group, if they were all/predominately to vote Green, guess which leader of which small-d democratic non-corporate party out of the one running would win the actual Presidential voting. 'No more war', and many of Bernie's other priorities would then still be fought for from the top down, even if no Bernie miracle could be achieved.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
With Indies so disaffected...
base turnout becomes all important.
Hillary has nothing positive to offer, so she has to rely on stirring up as much hate and divisiveness for the 'other side' as she can to motivate her own supporters and peel off snootier Republicans.
Just the kind of uniting President this country needs in these troubled times, no?
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Unfortunately for her the indies have a reason to turn out
The Greens and the Libs are going great guns. Stein is on more ballots than any other Green in history (including Nader).
Right here in my state of WA, the latest polling is:
Clinton: 41
Trump: 32
Johnson: 16
Stein: 7
Undecided: 5
So a quarter of the electorate here is voting for someone else.
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
That would be great if
state EVs were divided up proportionately, which they're not.
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
It's that magic 5% number
The Greens spent all their cash and energy to get on the ballot nationwide - and it took until 60 days before the election. If they can pull in 5% then they can start campaigning right away in 2020 instead of going back to the starting line.
So yeah, the EC is a done deal here, but if Hellery wins without a majority and a decent third party is ready to go next time, that is a big win.
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
Sorry, why is 5% 'magic'? nt
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
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