catching up on julian assange by storify [updated]
(The brilliant and imperturbable Jennifer Robinson)
Assange lawyer: US government extraditing a publisher in the UK for publishing in the UK is going to see China, Russia, Saudi use the precedent to extradite everyone https://t.co/BkqG5ibuki
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) November 19, 2018
BREAKING: @rcfp files motion in the Eastern District of Virginia to unseal the U.S. government's criminal charges against Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange after the existence of a criminal complaint was revealed in a separate court filing: https://t.co/ApUK9YxTje pic.twitter.com/bhwH1HSWHF
— Reporters Committee (@rcfp) November 16, 2018
Public court hearing Tuesday 10am London: on UK police withholding docs from the media on @WikiLeaks editors and journalists
East London Tribunal Hearing Center, 2nd Floor, Import Building, 2 Clove Crescent, London, E14 2BE https://t.co/jY2BjZBwQG
— Courage Foundation (@couragefound) November 19, 2018
Public court hearing today 10am London: on UK police withholding docs from the media on @WikiLeaks' staff. The venue: East London Tribunal Hearing Center, 2nd Floor, Import Building, 2 Clove Crescent, London, E14 2BE. https://t.co/U4AM3As6gZ
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) November 20, 2018
Coverage: the US charging Julian Assange presents a grave threat to press freedoms: https://t.co/85pSvjDymE
Support: https://t.co/JWzH6DHTEV pic.twitter.com/gbR3AXAo4S
— Courage Foundation (@couragefound) November 19, 2018
Assange: Perhaps The Greatest Journalist of Our Time pic.twitter.com/wojRhqzPJ1
— Ron Paul (@RonPaul) November 20, 2018
Comments
Anyone else notice how everyone reporting on Julian is
saying the same thing? That the NYT only found out about this because someone "copied and pasted" the indictment or whatever it was in some other person's indictment. How do they know that is what happened?
Brennan opened his trap this morning and said that sooner or later Julian will be here to answer for his crimes. Of course I asked, "what f'cking crimes"?
Isn't this how it always goes? The person who writes about someone committing war crimes is the one who goes to prison, not the one who did them.
The guy who interviewed Jennifer is a putz. He kept asking her if Julian had any contact with Russia or Trump's campaign. She kept repeating herself and saying that it doesn't matter where the material comes from it's okay to publish it if it's in the publics interests.
Trump did not ask Russia to hack the DNC or Hillary's private email server. He said that if Russia finds her deleted emails let us know.
Big stink today because people found out that Ivanka used a different email account then a government one. This might be wrong, but it seems that many people in government has done that in previous administrations. But they didn't use a private email server that people who didn't have security clearances could have access to. Big difference in my eyes.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Lies go many times round the earth before truth
has a chance to take one step. So it has been, so it is even more so now.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Outstanding comment!
Your comment clearly spells out the differences that the media and individuals such as the bobble heads over at the other place keep conflating.
While Assange has clearly said that the information he published did not come from a foreign government, we are continually being bombarded with the lie that Russia "hacked" the DNC. Second the DNC is a private organization that has stated in a court of law that they have every right to rig the primaries. So which sin is worse? Wikileaks publishing documents from a private entity that the public has every right to know about or that private entity rigging the primaries? The source of those documents is irrelevant since no one has disputed their authenticity. What was in those documents is far more important than from whom they originated.
Further, use of a private email account for government business is wrong, but using a private, unprotected server for highly classified government business is in violation of the Espionage Act. Hillary Clinton knew exactly what she was doing when she set up her private server. She refused to abide by the rule of the State Department from the first day and no one did a damn thing about it. She was selling information on that server to the highest bidder, which to me sounds like it could be interpreted as treason.
John Podesta's emails are a joke. Anyone could have taken them as Podesta had absolutely zero security on his system. Last I heard, Podesta was a private citizen at the time his emails were stolen.
So what crimes has Assange committed? And why aren't more people concerned about the precedent of charging him with a crime? I went over to dkos the other day and there was another diary there raising the issue of the precedent setting nature of charging Assange. I was shocked at how few of the supposedly intelligent folks over there were concerned about how it bodes for all of us. It was truly frightening.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
from binoy kampark
at dissident voice, although others have noted it, esp. those rootin' on the the mueller investigation:
‘A niggling concern here lies in Justice Department regulations, as amended by Eric Holder in 2015 [*link below], which cover the obtaining of information and records from, making arrests of, and bringing charges against members of the press. As Susan Hennessey, Quinta Jurecic, Matthew Kahn and Benjamin Wittes point out in Lawfare, one exception stands out with sore attention: “The protections of the policy do not extent to any individual or entity where there are reasonable grounds to believe that the individual entity is … [a] foreign power or an agent of a foreign power”, so defined in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. The mania in packaging, ribbon and all, of Assange with those in the Kremlin becomes clear. To make him a foreign threat takes him outside the scope of press protection, at least when it comes to those desperately drafted regulations.’
*2015 holder amendment link
it looks like a copy/paste
error, given it's about a different unsealed indictment in the same jurisdiction, but with assange's name appearing once, iirc. weirdly, it's about a sex crime case, but i've given a link to a thread on what might be in it down thread.
yeah, the wikileaks account had the brennan bullshit, but when i'd embedded it another interview came along with it, so i'd pulled it.
but spot on: tell a lie enough times, it becomes reified as The Truth. you have any idea how many peeps still believe julian is a pedophile and a rapist?
but what; are you thinking the indictment notification slip up was an intentional psyop? funny, the interviewer must be a putz, i'd mentally called him eggszackly the same term. the schuck.
Yep. This is what I'm thinking
Some type of psyops. Doesn't it seem strange that someone saw this 'oops' and now everyone is reporting it the same way? Even Caitlin says it's a copy and paste slip up. I've seen graphics when the media gets its talking points and everyone has the same headline word for word. Except alternative websites ..
But then there's the question of why we're hearing about it.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
once again robinson
says that no, assange's legal team has never been contacted by the mueller investigation team, but then that august body has never subpoenaed trump.
speculations as to why that is?
I caught that too
This does seem kinda strange doesn't it? After all it's Wikileaks fault that Trump won because they were working with Vlad. One would think that getting to the bottom of this might be important to his case.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
one couldn't be faulted
for believing so, except that...it seems to be the current State of Play. you might want to peek into lookout's justin raimondo opinion piece and my response including the tweet and tweeter, fwiw. yes, begging the Q 'how was it that the NYT had been alerted to it in any event?'
but gawd's blood, i had to go look at marcy wheeler's take on it all. masochists R us.
dunno that i want to embed this giant tweet by the self-same Hannah Jonnason,
@AssangeLegal
"US intelligence has been trying to shut down WikiLeaks for 10 years.
This secret US intelligence report about WikiLeaks is from 2008. It was published by WikiLeaks in 2010." but crikey, the report's 35 pages long, although scanning kinda works.
https://file.wikileaks.org/file/us-intel-wikileaks.pdf …
No news from stefania maurizi so far.
I was surprised to see this in USA Today...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/11/20/julian-assange-indictm...
Of course it is an op ed but maybe the worm will turn. One can hope.
I think this piece asks some important questions about the revelation of charges...
https://original.antiwar.com/justin/2018/11/18/pursuing-julian-assange-a...
Glad to see you keeping our attention focused on Julian and his fate. Thanks for the essay.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Everybody "loves" WikiLeaks until
it publicly takes their pants down.
Can't locate it offhand, but a while back (I think it was before Assange became Public Enemy #1), there was a Batman cartoon that had a snotty kid pointing at him and yelling "Bruce Wayne!", while the Bat is thinking "@#$%^&* Wikileaks!".
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
ah! thanks for bringing
both. wikileaks on twitter had the usa today one, but i hadn't stopped to read it. wow, justin raimondo, a flash from the past for me. they are good questions, one related to snoopy dawg's.
not much of an essay, more of a PSA, but you're welcome. the dangers to julian are just piling one on top of another so rapidly. silly to say, but i had a dream two nights ago in which i was flipping my topknot in frustration that so many folks around me were lying about him, judging him, in some tribunal setting...when all of a sudden a face called: 'but look at this good news!' and we looked toward the horizon and a wee bit of yellow sun was rising...and i dammit, woke up.
as to raimondo's op-ed,
he's clearly suspicious of the timing and 'deep state' origins of the documents, but whoa, nellie, does he use 'left' and 'right' as binaries w/ some sort of meaningful distinction, although he did use liberals' once.
a couple more outtakes:
[well since obomba 2012 indicting him,as per the stratfor intelligence files, obomba empaneling a GJ (iirc) in 2010.]
but justin had linked to the NYGrimes news, and in it was this:
beats me.
this rt video interview fleshes out
stefania maurizi's foia request that jen robinson spoke of in the second tweet. the link actually doesn't go to her interview yesterday, but @shadiaED is very tuned in tho the issues. when i'd been eager to hear how the judge had ruled, mr. wd reminded me that a judge might take time to mull things over, take the (ahem) political pulse on a potential ruling, etc.
to say the truth, that ruling was part of the reason i'd stung these items together so we'd have background for that ruling and the 'unseal the indictment' demands.
this thread is what might be in the recently confirmed Assange charges as per hannah jonnason; you'l laugh that she'd mentioned marcy wheeler fbi informer. ; )
Twitter ought to be banned. I can't read that crap, the format
is convoluted and full of distracting garbage.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
lol.
it's indeed a weird format that takes getting used to, but i really like it (as an observer, not a Tweeter). a) it's immediate in time, save for any 'pinned tweets' that might be at the top of a thread, b) because since it's social media in *the commons*, all images, videos, are fair game to borrow, and c) because not many Dissidents have been banned, including internationalist dissidents, and d) wikileaks on twitter is still up.
facebook is a whole 'nother story, and least for the present; twitter dude (dorsey?) might drink the status quo koolaid as well, but facebook uses google analytics algorithms to ban whatever sites, people, NGOs that might be challenging the status quo, 'Prop Or Not?' in a way.
bless his heart.
wish we had the english translation:
the subTweeters indicate that this doesn't bode well...(click for stand-alone and to see the decree)
this is phillip adams' petition to the
the Prime Minister, Foreign Minister and all 226 elected Senators & Members that comprise the entire Australian Government. change.org
he writes that it now has over 15,000 signatories, and urges us all to sign, too.
via RT:
‘Last diplomat he knew’: Ecuador ousts London envoy, fuels rumors of Assange’s imminent eviction’, 22 Nov, 2018
jeebus.