Can Sanders Do It?
Submitted by Granma on Fri, 04/29/2016 - 3:30pm
I believe the answer is yes. It looks to me as though the nomination will go to the convention.
I wanted to post this whole article, which is based on the Green Papers posted April 28th, but I'm not savvy enough to manage it. Plus I have a committment and have to leave in a few minutes. But do have a look. It is worth your time to read. And I'll be very interested in what others think about those numbers.
https://johnlaurits.com/2016/04/28/this-is-what-will-happen-at-the-democ...

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I say yes, as well.
I firmly believe he is still in this. We are still in this. Not me, us!
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
You just made me give
another $50 to Bernie.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
Wish I could give Bernie $50,
but that's not financially possible right now. HOWEVER, I just sent another $15. It's better than nothing, but I sure wish it could be more!!
"Stand Up! Keep Fighting!" - Paul Wellstone
I gave an extra $50 for you
I wish I could spend more time on the phone bank.
It's Interesting
However, let's see how his projections work with the Indiana election. If his number is close, then I might have more faith that he knows of which he speaks.
Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.
Well, I just voted
i just voted for Bernie, here in Oregon -the ballot just arrived in my mailbox. Such a privledge!! So, I am still in! All you Oregonians and Californians in June-vote!!! For Bernie.
I can't wait to cast my
I can't wait to cast my Bernie vote in June. It will be an honor.
Yes, yes he can. Excellent article.
The author gives permission to re-post the whole thing.
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Much better without the Shillary trolls
Thanks.
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
It is, isn't it?
So much less stressful.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
W00t!!! Doing stretching exercises for a happy dance...
... voice exercises so I can sing (yes, my expansive girth qualifies me as a fat lady!)....
Gathering good luck talismans....
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Dang it!
I came up with that 64% number last night--without all the math. Okay with some real simple math, but the right number. LOL My algebra/geometry teachers used to complain about me not showing how I got to an answer, and I asked what does it matter when the answer is correct. = )
Thanks for posting the article. Keeping it real!
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
The TL;DR version
of the article appears to be that not all of the delegates assigned to a candidate are actually pledged (i.e. bound to vote for them). In order to secure the nomination before the convention, you need to have enough pledged delegates, which neither of them will have pretty much no matter what. So while Clinton may have a bunch of assigned delegates from her victories, they don't actually have to vote that way.
The last part of the article is a bunch of reasons why the unpledged/super delegates might panic at the last minute and go for Sanders, including voting irregularities and voter turnout. So let's keep the pressure on.
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
Yes - there are quite a number of un-pledges in my state
...and it isn't obvious to me yet how they all get to be this way. There are I think 5 categories of delegates in my state. It all seems to secret-clubby and mysterious.
I've been vacillating about running, so am trying to comprehend all this...
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
It all comes down to the super-delegates
Would the super-delegates hand the nomination to Hillary and send Bernie's millions of independent supporters away? I think they would unless our candidate arrives in Philadelphia with 2,383 pledged delegates. Such a come-from-behind victory would be unprecedented, but it could happen. I agree that California is the ace-up-his-sleeve.
"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."
Which is why I expect dirty tricks the like even which Gawd...
Has never seen.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-EdLMxjPCg]
Sorry, sorry, I must admit Hillary is far more Harkonnen in her general attitude...
(Although I preferred the non-canon Ordos anyway, so who am I to judge?)
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Exactly
Which both attracts me and repels me from running for a delegate seat. No doubt the tricks will be astonishing to those who are paying attention (so, since my eyes are more open than they were, I feel it as an obligation to attempt to go, although I realize it may make me physically ill to be in there while it's happening).
Those who are not paying attention won't notice a thing - unless the tricks are defied and we pull off the oh-so-necessary but unlikely win.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Oh I really really hope you DO take a delegate slot
We need people on the ground, to observe and report.
Thank you - am unlikely to get it
In running for an alternate seat, in addition to all the Clinton peeps I will be up against (in a state which went 60/30 Clinton), I'll likely also be up against a guy in my own Senate dist who has better credentials. Unlikely it would go to me.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Clinton Dirty Tricks
We need to release the Pootie Sekrit Army from TOP and send them to polling places in California, Indiana, Oregon, WV and elsewhere. They will ensure that Ps and Qs are minded, no voters are purged, and keep Bill and his bullhorn away from polling places. The time has come for Pooties to put their very thorough and rigorous training between catnaps to use for the greater good.
IF it plays out to a contested convention
The MSM "press" will have an honest-to-dog horserace. Could they resist? If they get that, would they actually be snooping for shenanigans by either side? And report those? And expose the fraud, the set-up of our fake democratic selection process? Might be very interesting.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
I am not confident shenanigans will be reported
There have been so many glitches unreported or under-reported so far.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
I thought there was something uncannily familiar about...
Baron - er - Secretary Clinton.
Ah, the corruption of Spice!
The spirit of party serves to enfeeble the Public Administration,
agitates with Jealousies and false alarms, and opens the door to corruption,
which finds access to the government itself through the channels of party passions.
George Washington
Yes Yes Yes !
I come from a family w/half being brilliant
mathematicians (unfortunately not me). I still looked at the writer's calculations. They weren't crazy or off-base. The other factor is the FBI investigation(s). Regardless of when they break, they are still on-going. The Bernster will win Indiana, West Virginia, Oregon, California, one of the Dakotas, and who knows what else. He's coming to Philly fully loaded. Plus, there will be marches and rallies. The voter tampering is rampant now, and the primary season isn't finished. That news is spreading and there are a lot of po'ed Americans who couldn't vote. Looks like it will be one hot summer in convention Philly. GO BERNIE!!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
Yes, the FBI investigation.
It's hard to imagine it ending in any way well for Sec. Clinton.
An indictment is easy - she's hosed.
If after the many months of investigations, the many interviews, the $millions expended, the many leaks indicating serious violations of law, the FBI does not hand up an recommendation to Justice for an indictment, there will be a thermal nuclear explosion in the House, and full-time hearings from now until November. Also, very bad news for the Secretary.
A recommendation for an indictment, but DOJ demurring, would almost be worse than an indictment, as it would smell of "Deep State" corruption.
It will be an interesting next couple of months.
The spirit of party serves to enfeeble the Public Administration,
agitates with Jealousies and false alarms, and opens the door to corruption,
which finds access to the government itself through the channels of party passions.
George Washington
amazing set of facts
it just demolished all the disinformation floating around to discredit Bernie's campaign.
He's been handicapped from the start, and has had to face the most egregious machinations from DNC and the Hillary camp. Yet he keeps going and he is at this point appears to be unstoppable.
It's a matter of time when the cheating and habitual corruption will surface to face public scrutiny.
It can happen
I believe Bernie can do it as well, but if somehow the convention goes completely sideways with underhanded folderol there's always the possibility for Bernie to choose the Independent option. With so much support, enthusiasm and momentum behind him it's hard to imagine him not pressing forward toward candidacy:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/case-for-sanders-running-indep...
"So it goes."
Kurt Vonnegut
TY for this,
we need to spread this far and wide. I've felt all along that this would NOT be decided before the convention. Good news indeed!
Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .
Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .
If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
sign at protest march
as a curiosity, I checked The Other Place
and they are going absolutely rabid with that link.
You know you're over your target when the flak starts blasting out at you.
Hillary's compulsive thievery and assorted sneaky tricks in the next voting states just might get her caught red-handed, she's already dangerously exposed her flanks in AZ and NY. She needs to quit asap. Is she pushing her luck or what?
TOP couldn't find it's ass with both hands and a flashlight...
and a detailed topographical map.
And a pack of Sherpas.
However, Hillary's tricks will NEVER be called out by the MSM, and I have every reason to believe that if she is indicted, it'll be the fastest presidential pardon you've ever seen. (If there was such a thing as a Presidential Criminal Annulment, Obomber would probably do it. Not only is the crime forgiven... it never happened!)
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
isn't it bannable at DailyHos
to even link to thoughtcrime-laden GOP CT memes like that?
Morituri te salutamus
I read the whole article
at the link you provided. THANK YOU!!
I actually felt my eyes tear up a little bit when I felt a sudden surge of hope.
He can do this. WE can do this.
"Stand Up! Keep Fighting!" - Paul Wellstone
5 Things We Learned About Hillary since NY
5 Things We’ve Learned About Hillary Clinton Since She Won the New York Primary
Okay! I just made contribution number 16!
another $27. I contributed $27 after the NY loss and obviously, it's time to do it again. We need to make sure he has the funds to continue to put up a fierce fight in California. And it's not cheap to advertise there! Do what you can everyone! Make sure he can keep fighting for us, as we keep fighting for him.
And I just have to say how enjoyable it is to read great news like this without a few paid Hillary shills thread jacking and derailing the diary. It is so much better over here!!
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush
My math differs, but my conclusion is similar
I'm looking at the green papers too for my delegate count, and my thought is we need to go into the convention with the most pledged (elected) delegates.
So Bernie is down 295 delegates. There are 1016 to go.
1016-295=721
721/2=360.5 round that up to 361+295 (what we're behind)=656
So we need 656/1016=62% of the remaining delegates. That takes us to the convention with 1 more pledged delegate than Clinton. Obama had 60 more delegates than Hillary going into the 2008 convention.
Considering how far we've come and the fact that the upcoming contests are open primaries in favorable Sanders states I think we are in much better shape than the MSM is letting on. In fact I think they understand we are in striking distance and therefore constantly report "He can't win" (y'all just give up).
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”