Busy Day on the Dem Platform I/P front

Howdy. Just made the leap to caucus99percent (not entirely voluntary, as I've been handed a long timeout at the big Orange). I have no clue what the audience is, but today was a busy day for me on the internet, responding to developments regarding the Democratic platform and the Israel/Palestinian question. I thought I might share some observations. I expect it'll go over better here, anyway.

I should probably start with last night, when the Sanders delegates for Bernie Sanders got together for the first time, in advance of a meeting/reception that the Maryland Democratic Party had for the entire delegation. Part of that meeting involved ratifying the nominations for honorary chair (Sen. Barb Mikulski) and another delegation leadership post that involved fundraising, which went to the party head. These were uncontroversial nominations by the Clinton camp. We also ratified the campaign appointees to the Platform, Rules and Credential committees. Here, we were on dicier ground, when I saw Lanny Davis (boo!!!) as he was being nominated to be one of the Clinton appointees (I think it was Credentials, but it might have been Rules). We'd agreed not to object, but I didn't know that Lanny Davis was in the offing and I wanted to object....

Anyway, stepping back a little, the Sanders' appointee to the Platform Committee is Ben Jealous, and he lead a spirited discussion in our Sanders delegation prep-meeting, during which we discussed what we hoped to come out of the convention, and the platform in particular.

One thing we didn't touch on was the Israel issue -- which was a bit of a relief. It was a problem for Sanders in NY, and I wouldn't want it to undermine an effort to put together a broader consensus on the platform -- one that most Sanders supporters could be pretty happy with. The Washington Post had run a story a couple of weeks ago that focused on the Israel/Palestine issue as real priority for the Sanders campaign. That concerns me, even if I do find myself in agreement with the Senator. I wondered if it wasn't just the Washington Post trying to be provocative and turn people against Sanders.

I'm still not clear whether this will be a big priority for Sanders, but his placing James Zogby and Dr. Cornel West on the platform committeee suggests it is definitely on his radar. A few events today may have raised the profile of this issue in terms of the platform, and I wanted to share my take. First, one of the other delegates shared someting on Facebook - an article in Washington Jewish Week, which focused on Clinton's own Platform Cmte appointee, former Dep. Under-Secretary of State, Amb. Wendy Sherman. According to the WJW piece:

"But political watchers both within and on the outside say that Democrats will emerge from their nominating convention this summer comfortably pro-Israel.

The party platform will reflect the United States’ “unbreakable bond” with Israel and Democratic presidential front runner Hillary Clinton’s support for a two-state solution, said Wendy Sherman, a former undersecretary of state for political affairs and one of 15 members of the platform-writing committee."

Unfortunately, Sherman went off in a direction that would almost certainly undermine efforts at unity. It's one thing to be pro-Israel and another to look at the peace question only from the Israeli side, which has been a problem for both major US parties in recent elections. Sherman said this:

“I think that sort of sentiment is widely held in the party, that a two-state solution is critical to ensure the security and recognize the borders of a Jewish state, Israel, free from terror, and that a Palestinian state can provide independent sovereignty where they can govern themselves in their own state,"

It's not a frame that is particularly appealing to Palestinians, as it doesn't really acknowledge their particular concerns other than some amorphous idea of "independent sovereignty," which is a redundancy and suggests it might be neither really independent nor sovereign.

The desire to mollify even those who are near the extremes of Israeli public opinion and those who support them here -- that's become a habit over the last decade or two. Take a look at the 2008 Democratic platform:

"For more than three decades, Israelis, Palestinians, Arab leaders, and the rest of the world have looked to America to lead the effort to build the road to a secure and lasting peace. Our starting point must always be our special relationship with Israel, grounded in shared interests and shared values, and a clear, strong, fundamental commitment to the security of Israel, our strongest ally in the region and its only established democracy. That commitment, which requires us to ensure that Israel retains a qualitative edge for its national security and its right to self-defense, is all the more important as we contend with growing threats in the region–a strengthened Iran, a chaotic Iraq, the resurgence of Al Qaeda, the reinvigoration of Hamas and Hezbollah. We support the implementation of the memorandum of understanding that pledges $30 billion in assistance to Israel over the next decade to enhance and ensure its security.

It is in the best interests of all parties, including the United States, that we take an active role to help secure a lasting settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict with a democratic, viable Palestinian state dedicated to living in peace and security side by side with the Jewish State of Israel. To do so, we must help Israel identify and strengthen those partners who are truly committed to peace, while isolating those who seek conflict and instability, and stand with Israel against those who seek its destruction. The United States and its Quartet partners should continue to isolate Hamas until it renounces terrorism, recognizes Israel's right to exist, and abides by past agreements. Sustained American leadership for peace and security will require patient efforts and the personal commitment of the President of the United States. The creation of a Palestinian state through final status negotiations, together with an international compensation mechanism, should resolve the issue of Palestinian refugees by allowing them to settle there, rather than in Israel. All understand that it is unrealistic to expect the outcome of final status negotiations to be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949. Jerusalem is and will remain the capital of Israel. The parties have agreed that Jerusalem is a matter for final status negotiations. It should remain an undivided city accessible to people of all faiths."

Even beyond stating our "special relationship" and our "clear, strong, fundamental commitment" to Israel's security, the "best interests of all parties" seem to reflect Israel's maximal negotiating stances. Wiping out Hamas, if it won't recognize Israel, the return of Palestinian refugees only in Palestinian territory (as opposed to allowing them to return to their family homes located within the lands now generally recognized as part of Israel), and the declaration that Jerusalem is the "capital of Israel" (Despite that the federal government has never recognized that) along with the idea that it should remain undivided, even as its final status is supposedly up for negotiation -- and, maybe the biggie, the idea that it is "unrealistic" to a expect a complete return to the 1949 armistice lines.

Frankly, none of that would be unexpected in a final agreement -- Israel might accept a very limited number of Palestinian refugees, but the Arab population within israel is already at 20% and the Israeli gov't is never going to agree to anything that would bring it beyond 25%. They would much rather compensate refugees than allow them (or their descendants) back in. And the 1949 lines aren't magic. In fact, there are great reasons on both sides to want something different -- so, there will likely be swaps of land that will redraw the map, if an agreement is ever reached.

But, the framing is problem -- because it doesn't reference the Palestinian concerns. No mention of what's to become of Jewish settlements -- and not even a recognition that ongoing settlement expansion practices and policies are a huge obstacle to peace. There's a great deal of focus on the recognition of Israel's right to exist as a precondition to negotiations at least for some groups, but nothing about Israel recognizing that the occupation itself is a problem, and that they ought to conduct themselves in ways that instill confidence in the peace process for Palestinians.

That's basically the same problem we should have with Sherman's framing of the question -- but she also frames the political questions in a way that is seems calculated to upset Sanders' supporters. To wit:

Sherman said she thinks despite the presence of fiery pro-Palestinian figures like West, the party will unify around Clinton’s views on the Middle East.

“I know [Cornel West], and I think we will have a very good discussion,” she said. “But I think that the principles that I outlined are in the mainstream of Democratic Party politics and certainly the views of Secretary Clinton, and I expect it will be those values that go into” the platform.

It isn't the values that are in question, but it is the way they will be expressed, because that can make all the difference. Because the question of what it means to be "pro-Israel" is one of real debate, at least in terms of actual policy, even if there is wide agreement in the Democratic Party about what that means. For Democrats, there is no inherent contradiction between being "pro-Israel" and also deeply committed to a real peace process aimed at viable two-state solution. That's no longer true for some in Israel, who view talk about a two-state solution as "anti-Israel." Unfortunately, people with that view are now in ascendancy in Israel -- some may give lip service to the idea of a two-state solution, but it's like the Republicans and support for the working class. Republicans say they support the working class, but every policy they propose seems calculated to sabotage the working class. For Likudniks, any criticism of Israeli policy is deemed to be anti-Israel.

That divide has been expressed in recent years in this country with the AIPAC lobby becoming the foot soldiers for the Likud government (and for the Republicans here), rather than the non-partisan group it once was. AIPAC's move wildly right led unhappy Jewish American liberals to create an organization called J Street which would advocate for policies that were more inline with their own more nuanced views of the situtation in Israel. J Street has been a magnificent addition to the political landscape here. As one panelist noted in a recent J Street-hosted discussion in DC, just one look at he reent Maryland Senate primary should give real hope to Jewish progressives. The Jewish vote is pretty significant in Maryland with strong, politically active communites around both Washington DC and Baltimore. In past years, candidates for statewide office might have been running to the right on Israel, to gain the support of AIPAC. But, in the recent hotly contested race bethween Rep. Chris Van Hollen and Rep. Donna Edwards, both candidates articulated the progressive argument on Israel and seemed to be competing for J Street's endorsement.

So, it's especially notable that J Street came out with a statement on the Democratic Party platform that they've been circulating to Platform Committee members, as reported today in Politico.

J Street noted that tone is important:

"The overall tone of the document should establish the Party’s deep commitment to meeting the essential needs of both Israelis and Palestinians."

More than just tone, though, the memo/statement called on the Platform Commmittee to affirm American opposition to settlements -- American policy, but always conveniently ignored in the platform:

"The Democratic Party should reaffirm its support for the policy of all eight American administrations since 1967 – both Democratic and Republican – opposing settlement construction and expansion over the Green Line in the territory Israel has occupied since the Six Day War."

On Jerusalem's status, J Street again recommended a tweak that would be more solitious of Palestinian concerns, calling for:

"American recognition of the Jewish areas of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel andPalestinian areas of East Jerusalem as the capital of a Palestinian state, with precise arrangementsto be reached in negotiations."

I think that J Street's move into Presidential politics is a good one, that can help produce the kind of statement that Democrats can be proud of and one that might make a difference in the real world.

The J Street platform statement/memo was joined today with a petition for the Democratic National Convention:

"TELL THE DEMOCRATIC PLATFORM COMMITTEE:

Members of the Democratic Platform Committee have an opportunity this year to show support for Israeli security AND Palestinian rights.

Support for the two-state solution has been a staple of the party's platform for years. It's time to add language noting concern about the relentless expansion of settlements, which entrench the occupation and endanger peace.

Some have warned that adding language about Palestinian rights and the importance of ending the occupation will spark intraparty battles. But Hillary Clinton championed these issues as Secretary of State and Senator Bernie Sanders has raised them again and again during this campaign. Moreover, such views are completely in line with those of an overwhelming majority of American Jews and Democrats more broadly.

You and your fellow committee members have an opportunity to update the party's platform to bring it into line with this new consensus -- I sincerely hope you'll seize it."

The references to both Clinton and Sanders is a smart calculation that can help move the committee members to embrace these new ideas for the platform. Notwithstanding Amb. Sherman's notion that the platform will embody Clinton's values, we have a chance for it to embrace the values of the vast majority of Democrats and other progressives.

You can add your name to the petition here:

http://act.jstreet.org/sign/2016-democratic-platform/

That's it from me.... Gotta watch some Copa America soccer....

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most of us will never see, and will read about only as it's spun by MSM as we've seen the rest of this primary season spun. Encouraging indeed to see J Street's contribution to this sensitive subject.

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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti

It's too bad we can't deduct from that $30 billion every time Israel destroys civilian infrastructure and commits more war crimes, and give the money to the victims. But of course those $$ aren't really for Israel anway. They are for our defense industry.

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"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."

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interesting thought ...

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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

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I think you'll like it here once you detox from Over There. And we're glad to have you!

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

This was very interesting, thank you. Perhaps my arrogant bullshit alarm is set to be triggered too easily, but I smell something in the HRC representative Sherman's statements that is all too familiar. For entertainment value, or possibly for not letting a meme die gracefully value, I read what she's saying, and I'm hearing, "I'mma let you and Brother Cornel finish, but HRC's album includes all that old school 'let's not upset the MIC arms dealsapalooza' with just a sweet little backbeat of 'Palestinians are all right, I guess, but better way back there on the back burner than out front on the microphone' like we do. Kanye, I mean, HRC head Israel Spin-zecutive out."

Sorry for that. It's just so transparently saying that the HRC gang will pretend to listen, nod vacantly, and then get right back to business as usual. It's nauseating in its familiarity and accompanying stench. Please note that my vehemence doesn't stem so much from this one (though very important) topic as from that this is their approach to all topics. It's all "Heads I win; Tails you lose" all the damn time. Dash 1 (Please excuse my poor attempt at musician "dialect". Contrary to the lady in I think it was the first Airplane movie, I kinda suck at speaking "jive." I should take lessons from HRC and friends. I signed the petition, and I really hope that those in favor of a more balanced approach prevail. If HRC and company are in charge though, it'll be my head I'm holding and not my breath.)

Edited to fix typing error.

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You’d think people who say they honor Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King Jr., and Nelson Mandela would be able to see and be honest about what’s going down here.

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We don't want another walled over Bagdahd.

Far better to declare it an open city. Like the Vatican or maybe Hong Kong.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

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Name of the Week.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

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they agreed not to object to some Clinton appointments, and after agreeing, found out that one of them would be Lanny Davis.

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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

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I'm sure the heads of the delegation knew who the Clinton camp was putting forward, but they didn't share that with us when we discussed it. Besides, there'd be little point in objecting since we didn't have the votes....outnumbered literally 2-1.

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Why is there never any wording about Palestine's right to exist? It's Palestinian territory that has shrunk from nearly 100% of the area in 1918 to about 10% in 2016. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see which group is being squeezed out of existence as a viable people with a viable nation.

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Seriously, though — can anyone deny that, when it comes to Israel and Palestine, the policies of almost all our supposed liberals and progressives are, in their practical effects, indistinguishable from those of Pam Geller & Co.?

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Please keep us updated. It was very interesting and enlightening. I cannot imagine Ben Jealous allowing the HRC contingent to run roughshod over the process. That word "unrealistic" is really starting to irritate me.

Signed. Thanks for providing the link.

As for "Washington Post trying to be provocative and turn people against Sanders," this is the statement that is now in WaPo's mission statement to replace all that nonsense about ethics and objectivity.

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If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass

I still dabble over at the Big Orange but when Kos started his race baiting . . .

Anyway, I have always been partial to the organization Jewish Voice for Peace. They explain the basics well and clearly the "Israel right or wrong!" jingoism in the states enables the Likud government to run free rein over everyone in the area. (They aren't as evil as Saudi Arabia but few are.)

But you made the right decision jumping here. This site gets better and better.

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Saudi Arabia and Israel have been working together against Iran since mid 2013.
https://consortiumnews.com/2013/12/04/saudi-israeli-alliance-boosts-al-q...

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http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/1464962298/

And now comes the coup de grace, in the form of Avigdor Ivett Lieberman.

Lieberman is a frightening person. In his presence, even a Donald Trump would shrink.

An immigrant from Soviet Moldova, a former bar bouncer and later close aide to Netanyahu, he is now the most extreme rightist politician on stage. He has proposed the bombing of the Aswan dam in Egypt (which would kill many millions of people). That was one of his more moderate ideas. He has criticized the army as too timid, and called Netanyahu (not so long ago) a cheat, a coward and a charlatan.

Lieberman ("Nice Man" in German) is very shrewd. It can be assumed that for some months, at least, he will be exceedingly forthcoming, peace-loving and liberal. Already, this week, both he and Netanyahu have declared themselves fervent adherents of the "Two States for Two Peoples" solution. That's like Benito Mussolini declaring himself in 1939 a devoted pacifist.

So the answer to fear of Trump is to vote for Hillary Clinton? Clinton, who is determined to take U.S. relations “to the next level” with an ally whose leadership is by the day growing worse and more dangerous than Trump?

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for introducing me to Avnery's
columns at his Gush-Shalom
website when you dropped a link
to his "The Other Gandhi" column
at the Evening Blues some weeks
back.

I had never heard of Avnery before,
and I must say I am quite
impressed with his life, his work,
his excellent writing skills -
just about everything I can know
about him from exploring his
site and the mentions of him
across the internet. Quite a guy.

So, thanks for the introduction!

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What a biography, eh? Wish there were more like Uri Avnery. Or, failing that, I wish he would have the ear of some billionaire the way Netanyahu has the support of Sheldon Adelson.

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who has led an astonishingly
varied life with apparently
impeccable integrity.

Do you know if he is as valued in
Israel as I at least believe he
should be?

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Respected and read by no more than a small minority, at this point.

The vast majority seem swept along by the nationalist fervor promoted by the Likud-led coalition and Netanyahu’s patron Sheldon Adelson, through the latter’s free-giveaway daily newspaper.

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that right-wing nationalists are
taking over democratic
governments throughout much of
the West, as Avnery detailed in
in his most recent column "The
Center Doesn't Hold."

He claimed to be baffled about
the development across so many
nations of all sizes and with
differing domestic and national
situations, but the fact he began
his column quoting from Yeats'
"The Second Coming" told me he
has a very strong suspicion as
to what's coming down the pike.

There was indeed a reason the
Queen of England and royals
and governments across Europe
were celebrating marking the start of World War I in June 2014 as war raged across Ukraine.

Well, we seem truly in the thick of the next global conflagration now (how many dead in the MENA alone since the first invasion of Iraq in early '91?).

Interesting times, indeed. But, I
begin to suspect all times are
"interesting times."

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http://www.tothepointanalyses.com/category/israel

Though of course Davidson isn’t part and parcel of Israel’s story the way Avnery was and is.

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I've bookmarked and regularly
check quite a few of the links you
have so liberally dropped across
the pages of c99p.

Just in case you've wondered if
anyone reads your links and found
them of value - I do!

Not all of them, of course. Comics
and many TV alusions are lost
on me, but I've learned a fair bit
from looking up information about
such things I've never heard of.

So, please, keep dropping the links,
and I'll keep following them. You're
an excellent source to a great deal
of knowledge on the net.

Thanks again!

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its successors, the now-defunct magazines CoEvolution Quarterly and Whole Earth Review.

In a small way, I try to do for others what their editors, writers, and contributors did for me in that distant and dimly remembered era when “alternative media” meant scissors, rubber cement, and access to an IBM Selectric Composer.

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It was defunct by the time I
reached high school, although I
do recall seeing copies of old
issues in college.

Now we each do our part to
create an updated digital
equivalent even as we recognize
the true nature of the internet,
gift of DARPA in modern Orwellian
days.

But, hey, at least they can't take
away our birth dates!

On edit: Actually WEC published its last issue while I was in high school.

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How about fear of Republican control over government? I think that we've seen that in action -- for a few years in the Reagan Administration, and for the largest part of the Bush 43 Administration. It's a disaster in domestic and foreign policy arenas. It might be too soon for most of our folks to have that discussion -- and we should be trying to bring home some big wins in the coming days -- but, yeah, I think there's a difference between the 2 parties....even if it's just that in one our issues are given a hearing and some true believers can be elected.

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the Right of Reagan on far too many issues for me to ever support her.

I am done voting against, from now own all my votes will be "FOR" votes.

Democrats that take Conservative positions are effectively Republicans as far as my vote is concerned.

If they want my vote, give me someone to vote for, not just against.

For far too many decades I have voted against candidates and now I am DONE with that shit.

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

I'm sure it feels good to say this:

"I think if you did an analysis of Policy it shows Hillary is to the Right of Reagan on far too many issues"

It's also nonsense. You do the analysis. Or go to sites that have already analyzed her voting record. It's not even middle of the road. It's solidly left, at least in comparison to many of her colleagues. There are a lot of issues where she's not where I want/need her to be -- and fracking and other energy and environmental issues, she's far too solicitous of big corporate interests, fossil fuel industry, chemical industry, etc., -- and that's why I support Sanders...because he's in the right place on those issues. I don't think it's impossible to move Clinton. Obama has moved left on a lot of those questions, but there's a lot more room to the left. Of course, her instincts are all wrong -- but she is definitely persuadable. I am not planning on voting against the Republicans. I'll be voting for Democrats, who are much more closely aligned with my views...the Party has moved left on a lot of issues, and I believe we'll see continued movement on a vast range of issues. She's far too cautious, but there's been a real shift of thinking on energy, on economics, on interventionism, on social justice -- a shift among the people whom the Clintons have surrounded themselves. The policies won't be what we'd hope for, but they'll be much better than you seem to think. And, they will work to shift the Overton Window. For years, that's all I heard lefties talk about -- how we have to shift the window -- the way the right had done. The Sanders campaign isn't the end of that effort. It's barely even the beginning. Conservative didn't have their success because they abandoned the GOP -- they succeeded because they challenged the GOP from the inside. We can do the same thing. Sanders has set the ball rolling, and the game is afoot. Politics isn't a game that's won in one election. Ir requires both patience and perseverance.

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“I think that sort of sentiment is widely held in the party, that a two-state solution is critical to ensure the security and recognize the borders of a Jewish state, Israel, free from terror"

I have some problems with this statement. Isn't it Israel itself that has a problem with recognizing it's own borders? And what about the two-state solution also ensuring the security and recognizing the borders of a Palestinian state, Palestine, free from occupation?

The US will never be an even-handed arbitrator of peace if the Palestinians aren't also recognized in the quest for peace.

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does it not? Inability to empathize with anyone else but “one’s own”?

Ironic for people to be against Trump and his wall while supporting to the hilt (Hill-t?) the Tel Aviv Trumps and their wall in the service of an expansionist, colonizing nationalist ideology.

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As a BernieOrBust voter, I really don't give a leap what the Dems do. They either nominate Bernie, or we burn their mansions down by voting third party.

Having said that, I try to stay informed. Maybe you could explain why anyone should care what the platform says or who is on it? Hillary doesn't obey the law let alone a non-binding piece of paper. I think the platform use to say something about the party of the working people. How'd that go?

While you are most welcome here as are your thoughts and essays, I'd rather see the Democratic Party destroyed than put another Clinton in the WH.

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Just as Obama did after his election, promises and campaign speech (and platforms) will be meaningless to HRC if she gets into the White House. How can anybody believe that she will not seek her revenge by thwarting any real progressive issues. Lying and getting even seem to be her modus operandi.

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If someone can show me how I'm wrong, I'd be happy to listen. I could barely understand the reasoning when Bernie was pushing it. I figured it hand something to do with leverge for him. If not that, it isn't worth the time and effort as far as I can see.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

A Presidential election campaign ends, conventions end, even Presidencies end, but there's no endpoint to the discussion or to politics itself. The point is to transform the discussion and thereby change the range of alternatives and ultimately the policies. It doesn't end in California, or even the next week in D.C, and it won't end in Philly, either. The platform discussion is a continuation of hte discussion -- an opportunity to focus the national conversations -- but it's hardly the last one...it's not the endpoint, but another point along the path.

Do you think the Sanders campaign was worth the time and effort, even though HRC will have the most delegates and votes? I look at how her majority was constructed and it seems it's largely with people who will be outnumbered in years to come, as all those excitable younger voters, even youjnger PoCs, demand a more progressive agenda from our leftist, Democratic coalition. If winning is the only thing worth the time and effort, then I really don't understand those who wat to bolt and make some pointless political gesture by not voting for Democrats -- and if winning isn't the only point, if building a movement that will only grow in years to come is the point, then the platform discussion is part of that effort....the next step.

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I suppose those who think the system is salvagable from within should give it a go. More and different efforts at reform can't hurt.

"Bolting" is not pointless. If I were being "judgemental", I would say that 35 years of more and better and reforming the party from within has been "pointless".

Leaving the party to fend for itself is reform just from another angle. If we make the Democrats lose, we'll drive them into the arms of you guys waiting for them on the inside.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

Having the discussion, airing the views, finding the parameters of the discussions, the media coverage of it, blogging -- it's all about the issues, influencing the electorate and changing policy.

On Wednesday, Presldent Obama called for expanding social security....for the first time. That's not a coincidence. Yiou think we're losing, when I say we're winning. Progressives are in a stronger position than we have ever been. Why throw in the towel now?

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Palestinians. What about security for the Palestinians? The Israel government is a terrorist supporting government practicing apartheid on a million or more people and they're the ones that need security? That's just playing into the false narratives and lies involving Israeli apartheid.

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It's not a false narrative -- because it's not as if tiny Palestine is the only threat, and there has been decades of terror attacks for longer than my 5 decades on this planet. And, given the political dynamics of the Arab world, there are reasons to be skeptical of whether Israelis could ever have faith in a stable, secure, friendly neighboring government. But, of course there needs to be security for Palestinians. That's the very point of the conversation I'm referencing in my essay -- that the platform discussion should involve a serious discussion of the concerns of Palestinians.

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Representing the 99% at the Dem Nat'l Convention in Philly.

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platform ever been adhered to? As Nancy said about the constitution what good is it if you can't enforce it? It's a useless piece of paper to bring the votes home. As for the progressive democratic wing of the party having any power whatsoever once they crown her highness forget about it. After the coronation we go back to being irresponsible 'fucking re****ed' ideological far lefty purists who need to GTFO. The progressive caucus in congress folds like a cheap tent when push comes to shove. The Vichy Dem, machine has rigged the system and will marginalize the few 'progressives' the people do manage get elected.

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