06-07 was a Horrifically Evil Day

Today is day 158 of the Gregorian Calendar year,
Pungenday, Confusion 12, 3187 YOLD (discordian)
And let us not forget 13.0.8.10.10 mlc (the Mayan Long Count)

conquistadores

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On June 7, 1494, Spain and Portugal signed the Treaty of Tordesillas, divvying up such of the world as was not already under Christian rule between them.  Though blessed by a Pope after the fact, the other European powers, not having signed it, ignored it, as did the indigenous people whose lands and persons were subject to seizure, occupation and foreign rule as a result of the treaty.  This, of course, led to an explosion of "exploration", "discovery", claims on and theft of lands and all their resources, and to the enslavement, murder, torture and mistreatment of the residents of those lands, and not just by Portugal and Spain, but by England and France, and, eventually, all of Europe's many "states".  But it was all legal, and holy, and good, and even, eventually, enshrined in the US Constitution.

The Treaty of Tordesillas and the subsequent Treaty of Zaragosa were preceded, accompanied, clarified, modified, adjusted, justified and all else by a lot of papal bullshit, crown proclamations and pronunciamentos, rulings and declarations by governors and viceroys and, eventually, as must come to pass regarding all things, jurists.  (Diderot has some pithy wisdom regarding Kings and Priests, but somehow overlooked Jurists.)  In short, out of the wealth of amoral sociopathic self-centered egotism and ism surrounding that awful treaty arose The Doctrine of Discovery.

Per the doctrine of discovery, as interpreted, no human anywhere has or ever has had any right to occupy or reside in or on any land or to use any of its resources of to govern themselves until their land has been "discovered" by somebody competent to do so (some Christian, or, at least an agent thereof, to be specific).  At that point, according to no less a person than Chief Justice John Marshal, ownership of lands lay with the government whose subjects traveled to, discovered, and occupied lands inhabited by persons not subject to rule by a Christian Monarch or the government by whose authority such discovery and occupation was made.  In the case of the US, that would've been Merrie Engelonde, from which the individual states and the United Estates inherited title. (Johnson v. M'Intosh, 1823.)  In making this decision, Marshall, who had large real estate holdings and a clear conflict of interest either lied or "misspoke" and claimed that the Doctrine of Discovery, an unmitigated evil in its own right, was International law universally relied upon and accepted by all of the nation states of Europe (and nobody else mattered, right?) as the sole basis for claiming and owning land.  Certainly, for US purposes, nobody else mattered whatsoever, for this was a Supreme Court Decision.

I submit that:

Article VI 
Clause 2
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

And, further, that Supreme Court Decisions such as Johnson v M'Intosh (supra) are the final arbiter of exactly what the laws of the US are, because Chief Justice John Marshall said so in Marbury  v Madison.

Finally, this does not constitute the passage of an ex post facto law nor a law respecting an establishment of religion because it is not the passage of a law by Congress, but a mere interpretation of the Constitution and of International Law as of the inception and formation of the USA.  In short, this has always been the law of the land and the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence is a steaming pile off manure;  we do not now and never have held it to be self evident that all persons are created equal and endowed with the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, only colonists and Christians ever were or are, in fact, so entitled.  That's the law of the land, and it and many a host of evils goes back to June 7, 1494 and the Treaty of Tordesillas.

By The Way a cache of glass trade beads, probably Venetian, have turned up about 110 miles above the Arctic Circle at a site in Alaska. They were found in close association with some twine made from plant fiber. which, along with some carbon from a nearby hearth was carbon dated to between 1443 and 1488. Put another way, these artifacts were deposited in north central Alaska between 1443 and 1488, long before Columbus set sail.  (As discussed in phillybluesfan's June 3 OT: "Christopher Who?"  https://caucus99percent.com/content/thursday-open-thread-archaeology-edi... )

Can we be certain that the trader or carrier was not a Christian from Venice, and that they did not, out of pure reflex, claim the Americas on behalf of Venice?  Shouldn't those pressing claims under the doctrine of discovery be forced to prove said discovery when there is evidence that they were not the first outsiders to visit a place? 

On this day in history:

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1099 – First Crusade's Siege of Jerusalem began, leading to the massacre of thousands of Muslims and Jews.

1494 – Spain and Portugal signed the Treaty of Tordesillas which divided the "New World "between them

1628 – The Petition of Right, a major English constitutional document, was granted the Royal Assent by Charles I and became law

1776 – Richard Henry Lee presented the "Lee Resolution" to the Continental Congress.

1862 – The US and the UK agreed in the Lyons–Seward Treaty to suppress the African slave trade. in the Atlantic

1892 – Homer Plessy was arrested for refusing to leave his seat in the "whites-only" car of a train; he lost the resulting Supreme Court case, Plessy v. Ferguson,  which gave us the separate but equal doctrine. Said doctrine is still very much alive, see all the "domestic partnership" laws and the arguments supporting them, for example.

1899 – Carrie Nation began her rampage by destroying the inventory in a saloon in Kiowa, Kansas.

1929 – The Lateran Treaty was ratified, bringing Vatican City into existence.

1946 – The BBC returned to broadcasting its television service
1962 – The OAS set fire to the University of Algiers library building, destroying about 500,000 books.

1965 – The Supremes barred states from criminalizing the use of contraception by married couples in Griswold v. Connecticut.

1971 – The Supremes overturned the conviction of Paul Cohen, holding, in essence,  that vulgar writing is protected under the First Amendment

1981 – An Israeli Air Force sneak attack destroyed Iraq's Osiraq nuclear reactor and killed several persons without justification

1991 – Mount Pinatubo erupted, generating an ash column 7 kilometres high and enormous volumes of hot air from Rush Limbaugh.

2000 – The UN laughably defined the Blue Line as the border between Israel and Lebanon.

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Born this day in:

“Art is either revolution or plagiarism”

~~    Paul Gauguin

1761 – John Rennie the Elder,  engineer
1811 – James Young Simpson, obstetrician
1831 – Amelia Edwards,  journalist and author
1848 – Paul Gauguin, painter and sculptor
1879 – Knud Rasmussen, anthropologist and explorer
1883 – Sylvanus Morley, archaeologist and scholar
1886 – Henri Coanda, engineer, designed the Coanda-1910 
1899 – Elizabeth Bowen,  author and critic
1906 – Glen Gray, saxophonist and bandleader
1909 – Virginia Apgar, anesthesiologist and pediatrician, developed the Apgar test
1912 – Jacques Hélian, bandleader
1917 – Dean Martin, singer, actor, and producer
1935 – Harry Crews, novelist, playwright, short story writer, and essayist
1939 – Yuli Turovsky, cellist, conductor and educator
1940 – Tom Jones, singer and actor
1944 – Clarence White, guitarist and singer
1954 – Louise Erdrich, novelist and poet
1958 – Prince, singer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, producer, and actor

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Died this day in:

If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he gave it to.

~~  Dorothy Parker

1826 – Joseph von Fraunhofer, optician, physicist, and astronomer
1859 – David Cox, painter
1866 – Chief Seattle, tribal chief
1942 – Alan Blumlein, engineer
1945 – Kitaro Nishida, philosopher and academic
1954 – Alan Turing, mathematician and computer scientist
1966 – Jean Arp, sculptor, painter, and poet
1967 – Anatoly Maltsev, mathematician and academic
1967 – Dorothy Parker, poet, short story writer, critic, and satirist
1970 – E. M. Forster, novelist, short story writer, essayist
1980 – Henry Miller, novelist and essayist

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Holidays, Holy Days, Festivals, Feast Days, Days of Recognition, and such:

June Bug Day
VCR Day
National Chocolate Ice Cream Day

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Music goes here, iirc, well, With apologies Wink

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Treaty of Tordesillas:

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Glen Grey

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Dean Martin

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Tom Jones

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Clarence White

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Prince

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It's an open thread, so do your thing, got it? Below this point this is a public forum, your forum, nothing is off topic, so go for it


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Edit: cleaned up assorted typos, punctuation errors and duplicate words

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Lookout's picture

stating the US has a right to take over any Central or South American country we want.

As Elon Musk recently said about Bolivia
‘We will coup whoever we want! Deal with it’: Elon Musk sparks online riot with quip about overthrow of Bolivia’s Evo Morales
https://www.mintpressnews.com/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-condemned-over-bolivia...

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Have a good day everyone, and thanks for the history and OT.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout

get through that with all the typos and other errors. I do edit this shit, but, somehow ...

Anyway, as the great clarifier of all us history clarified "America First" which, for those who know what the Americas are and are puzzled, means "USA First", we've always been exceptionalist and imperialist. Ah well, such is life.

be well and have a good one.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@Lookout

Sounds a lot like the Monroe Doctrine...

stating the US has a right to take over any Central or South American country we want.

Not quite. The Monroe Doctrine (as James Monroe first expounded it, anyway) says that the entire Western Hemisphere was closed to further colonization, and that the US would support any extant colony in that Hemisphere in throwing off the yoke of European masters.

By the time it was twisted into what you described, old James Monroe was decades dead. Probably spinning in his grave, too.

Smile

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June 7th is a significant day in my life. Lots of births and deaths on this day in my life.

Just dropping this here for any interested parties.
https://rumble.com/vhqjrb-critically-thinking-with-dr.-t-and-dr.-p-episo...

Enjoy the day! Pleasantry

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@Raggedy Ann

haven't watched it yeete, but certainly will.

Thanks for dropping by.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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be plundered and ruled by Christian aristocracy. Catholics monarchies may have started the ball rolling, but Protestants were quick to join-up to take new territory and reconquer Catholic territories for Protestant monarchies. Americas are where the non-inheriting European aristocrats and bastards migrated to earn their fortunes. Those which did not return to Europe set-up their ruling class structure in the conquered lands.

This idea of discovery and ownership keeps expanding into copyrights for longer period of times and patents into biologicals.

Biological patent means a patent issued for an invention or discovery in biology. Such patents may be taken for the composition of matter, a procedure for obtaining or using one or more compositions, or for a product combining such things. In the U.S., natural biological substance itself may be patented. However, such substances must be sufficiently isolated from their naturally occurring states. Patents for adrenaline, insulin, and vitamin B12 are examples of patents issued for natural biological substances.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

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@studentofearth
get me started on the patent system, especially as to biologicals. Herbs and such that have historically been long used are supposed to be grandfathered in for consumption and use in this country, but they held up stevia leaves for years in order to allow some schmuch to isolate the active ingredient and patent it. You can just go into south america and patent stuff, and, worse yet, after the rules on biologicals changed, assholed went into the seed banks and started patenting everything in there.

be well and have a good one.

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In Cuenca since the Spanish arrived in the 16th century.

https://cuencahighlife.com/justice-was-swift-and-brutal-in-old-cuenca-a-...

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"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."

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@vtcc73

sadly, that wasn't atypical, going back to day one, in the conquered lands of South and Central America.

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The NewTruthers won't shut up about the evils they attribute to everyone of a color, of a geographic locale, of a (completely relative) cardinal compass direction...but they NEVER TOUCH Christianity. They act like it's completely innocent, or inconsequential, or somehow nonexistent.

The doctrine of "Original Sin" alone I have long viewed as nothing short of a crime against humanity.

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In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.

Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!

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@The Liberal Moonbat

amazing or surprising, it is the dominant cult and the brainwashing is all pervasive in our society. Sin and sinner, like heresy and heretic, and all the rest are simply othering, creating objects to hate and despise in order that one may deem themselves part of the chosee and celebrate that status.

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@enhydra lutris The idea that they think they can completely invert morality and reason just by turning language inside-out and spooging emotions at people...it's astonishing and appalling that they would even think that would work to start with. I'm scared shitless that the entire 20th Century will be for nothing because of this...it won't, will it? I CANNOT live without those hard-earned precedents beneath my feet. They are indispensable prerequisites for everything I've ever been and still hope to become.

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In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.

Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!

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@The Liberal Moonbat

The NewTruthers won't shut up about the evils they attribute to everyone of a color, of a geographic locale, of a (completely relative) cardinal compass direction...but they NEVER TOUCH Christianity. They act like it's completely innocent, or inconsequential, or somehow nonexistent.

The doctrine of "Original Sin" alone I have long viewed as nothing short of a crime against humanity.

And traditional Christian stances on sex and marriage are nothing short of crimes against humanity! Diablo

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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but it got remedied last year. Oops did I say that out loud?

Nah this isn't creepy at all.

Stores enlist shoppers to stop bad behavior against workers

Participating retailers will have signage in their stores with QR codes, allowing customers to sign a pledge of support. There will also be a tool kit designed by Hollaback to show how customers can help, including how to create a distraction for the abuser as well as documenting the situation and bringing in someone else to help.

Hire your own damn security instead of asking people to step up. Good grief did that really need to be said?

Indeed this as a liability. Instead of hiring security personal the store could place in plain clothes they want to have other customers intervening and possibly get hurt.Nobody knows what someone is capable of and if the have a weapon.I say of I see something I'll tell store management but I am not getting involved.

Yay we are below 100 this week. A whopping 72 on weds. Sounds fun.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

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@snoopydawg

for tort attorneys. Thanks for dropping in.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

was sentenced to 8 mo. incarceration, in effect slow execution for a man with I gather serious health problems, over the so-called jigsaw ID of certain women involved in the several years ago prosecution of Scottish pol Alex Salmond, who was acquitted. The judge, a Lady Somebody or other, is apparently a Brit version of our own Killary; let us hope no one gets the dim idea of putting her on a judge's bench.

https://dissenter.substack.com/p/craig-murray-8-months-prison-sentence

Murray has also been a friend of, visitor to and advocate for Julian Assange; we will undoubtedly learn at some future time that DC was involved in persecuting Murray. BTW, I don't give a @#$%^ about his marriages, so please spare me.

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@Nastarana

been a pretty certain bet for a while now. Not a good time to be a real journalist.

be well and have a good one.

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Howdy all! Hi EL!

A bunch of great history there, THANKS! Well, not actually so great for the reality of it. Now over 500 years of damage and counting. Man - doing the wrong thing ever since we became upright bipedal Hominids. How long can the planet or its peoples bear the results of the metastasized egos of the self-righteous? I would not say that the post WWI and WWII declarations and redrawing of the lines in the sand showed very much improvement in thinking about the indigenous locals, over these earlier predecessor declarations.

I saw Prince do a few songs once. I have never been so disappointed in Stones fans in my life. Sorry if I shared this before. The Stones have a long history of having opening acts THEY want YOU to see and hear. Like the 3 African drum corps on the '75 tour and Stevie Wonder on the '72 tour. The Stones had Prince open for them on some dates on the 82 tour. Little Red Corvette was out. It was at the LA Coloseum. Prince, J.Geils, Stones. After about the third Prince song maybe, the people down in front started throwing shoes at him, to shoo him off the stage!?!?!?!? When hundreds flew, it worked. He walked off. Idiots. To Prince! There are pics out there of it. Yeah before he was big, but it seemed obvious he was going to be. Hundreds of shoes. So screwed my chance to see an hour, got about 15 minutes maybe. They couldn't wait to hear Satisfaction again? Whadda bunch of maroons... What an amazing guitarist, songwriter, and producer he came to be.

I saw him do a longer live take on Jay Leno I think, but can't find it in the ether...

A great message in there too, besides the guitar playing...

Dino besides that voice, was very funny too. His roasts were some of the best comedy ever. Lots of those are seeable on Utube.

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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein

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@dystopian

I did that they generally arranged ot have great talent open for them, and why the openers didn't get great responses is unknowable. OTOH, I've not been there for such an event. I went to one (count 'em, one) stones concert. Pearl Jam opened. Some brief good guitar, Eddie Vedder mumbles for 2 minutes, a couple of good guitar licks, Eddie Vedder mumbles some more, crescendo and end to applause, rinse and repeat. Did not understand one single word in the whole set. I guess I got spoiled by too many years in the Bay Area; like Hendrix "opens" for the Airplane who "warm you up" for the Dead, or Paul Butterfield, The Airplane and Big Mama Thornton, etc.

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@enhydra lutris

I guess I got spoiled by too many years in the Bay Area; like Hendrix "opens" for the Airplane who "warm you up" for the Dead, or Paul Butterfield, The Airplane and Big Mama Thornton, etc.

Ah, those grand and glorious days of yesteryear, when ordinary working stiffs could still dwell in San Francisco......

"I ask that Your Gracious Imperial Majesty, Norton I, depose Nancy Pelosi and deport her and all her ilk to Your Imperial Majesty's Protectorate of Mexico....."

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@thanatokephaloides

Ah, those grand and glorious days of yesteryear, when ordinary working stiffs could still dwell in San Francisco.....

Well, I myself was down in the Berkeley flats, the south Berkeley flats, mostly.

"I ask that Your Gracious Imperial Majesty, Norton I, depose Nancy Pelosi and deport her and all her ilk to Your Imperial Majesty's Protectorate of Mexico....."

Oh, please let it be so.

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"Though you came with sword held high
You did not conquer, only die....

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPlf09nVgWk]

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@thanatokephaloides

my topic tune, but found the other one to be more true to the horror and evil perpetrated upon the indigenous peoples.

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