he'll make the proper recommendations -- it'll be up to Loretta Lynch and the Obama DOJ to follow through. And if Obama feels that Clinton's actions as SoS potentially tarnishes his legacy, I think he'll direct Lynch to follow through to save that legacy.
I think the consensus before this election was that Bill Clinton was an above average president. Now, not only has the short-sightedness of his policies been exposed but he could go down as one of the more corrupt and disliked presidents.
At least we knew what to expect. And I'll give him credit for not marching into Iraq after Gulf War I despite the urgings of Dick Cheney and his ilk (they got the son to do it).
self-indulgent, womanizing, utterly corrupt Republican governor, Tommy Thompson, with the observation that the politician he most reminded me of was Bill Clinton.
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and a shrewd thinker. He shows courage of conviction.
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I've studied some forms of persuasion, and when a person is inconsistent, there tend to be tells. This guy looks integrated and consistent. I GIVE A DAMN that a guy (who is/was far from perfect, but IS a person and deserves the dignity of being treated well when he is ill) was being exploited when his health was in such a critical state. This guy really seems to be conscious of the exploitation and absolutely put himself on the line to curtail it. I don't know anything about the rest of his behavior, but I think this action was rather heroic, and I give him props for that. I believe this was the first time the story came out, and he was compelled to give testify, he was not doing this to chalk it up for his own credit. I don't know what else he has or hasn't done, but he gets credit for this. It was extreme brave and righteous behavior (and I mean that in the very best sense).
I've been that ill and have had family make decisions for me which were directly contrary to my best interests when there was jack sh*t I could do to stand up for myself (well, to stand up in any fashion, actually).
Hillary Clinton does NOT have that instinct and care to look out for others on this basic level, imo - she simply does not embody this level of humanity. The best one could get out of her in a similar circumstance is that she might have staff to tend to someone. Other than that, she's that got good Republican spirit of 'I've got mine, eff you.'
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Comey for president? The guy has integrity. (The last was a statement rather than an answer to my own question; however,...)
Thank you for the video. It means a lot.
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but the word in the 90s was that the FBI had utter contempt for Janet Reno, and therefore Bill Clinton. Supposedly that was the underlying reason for Waco.
It seems clear that Hillary Clinton created an unwise risk to our National Security when she set up an unsecured server in her bathroom, and then proceeded to conduct, and store, classified State Department business on it.
I think there is a prima facia case of negligence, and a good case for the commission of more serious and flagrant security violations which could be brought against Hillary Clinton.
I hope James Comey sets aside all political ramifications, and does his duty to us, the American people, in deciding whether to indict Hillary Clinton.
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I think you're correct in the severity of what she's done. And as much as all the politicians LOVE people in the service and veterans, can you imagine how many of them she put in harms way? And much of what other governments learned, people are probably STILL in harms way. It certainly lowers my opinion of Obama to attempt to hide it all (just careless) that he keeps his silence and allows her to run for President. And he certainly knows about the election fraud in every state, but ---silence. For whatever reason, he actually made one appointment, Comey, who has some integrity. If they won't indict, I think (hope) that there is a lot of information that will leak.
But people are complex. Sometimes bastards have limits. Or, they don't, but in one individual case, they have a reason to go after a particular person that does need to be gone after--for other reasons.
This guy seems like a bastard who thinks he has a moral code, and therefore has some things that are off-limits. As opposed to your garden-variety sociopath like Hillary and her Wall St buddies, who live by "Do whatever you can get away with."
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--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
and while I remain hopeful that Comey will buck the establishment and actually do his job and indict Mrs. Clinton over the damned illegal-as-fuck email server setup--I'm not counting on it. And frankly, the references I see here, to him as "an honest man", are troublesome. He ain't all that....
We can't be counting on the guy to "do the right thing", though I agree more with the idea that there's no love lost between the FBI and the Clintons. It's simply a matter of "who has the most power" in Washington, overall--and if James Comey actually had enough power to do the right thing, I am going to suppose that he really could have done it by now.
I think we're just being led to believe "something will happen" to buy time--he's not going to do SHIT to her.
Well, at least compared to Hillary. I know little about Comey other than this video of his testimony and the fact that Obama appointed him to be the Director of the FBI. I want to see the Clintons indicted and convicted. Don't think there is much love between the Clintons and Obamas.
Clinton communicated with Obama via email. That means Obama knew she had a private server, if he has a brain in his head, which he does.
So does that make Obama part of the conspiracy?
You can have a private domain but not have a private server.
Granted, its likely she had a private server, but its not a definite thing.
Also, shouldn't people be trusted to do their damn job? Should the president have to go to every appointee and ask them if they are doing things they were told not to do?
I don't think he could be help accountable for her crimes.
Is a disgrace, as is 'The Patriot Act' over the 3,000 pages passed just weeks after 9/11. From the intercept.com article Comey did sign off on waterboarding which is clearly torture. He also apparently was pushing back against many of the policies with some limited success.
in my very limited TV political drama experience. I don’t know what to believe. I sometimes have trouble distinguishing between fiction and non-fiction, when it comes to politics on the public stage, even though my tendency is to register ‘fiction' for the lot of it. Though Comey does present as authentic I reserve any opinion, since I regard politicians or political officeholders in general, to be bogus.
So she's already aware that there will be no i-word.
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She claims she's been briefed and she knows things the media and the rest of us do not know... I'd say the vid is worthless, except that it's a textbook example of deflection and should be used in communications classes to show what someone who's lying looks like in action.
She says at about minute 2:00 that Clinton is not a target of the Security *Inquiry.*
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Does that mean she is informed and free to spin how she wants, or is she part of the chain of command? Because I cannot imagine an FBI Director being subordinate to some Congresswoman...
I apparently failed to convey that I was using sarcasm in describing what's in the video - see my comment above to lunachickie. DWS is saying with a straight face in the video that she is in the loop and knows more that we do... This part of the discussion starts at about minute 2:00...
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Seems like a good guy
Hillary, not so much...
If something's there
he'll make the proper recommendations -- it'll be up to Loretta Lynch and the Obama DOJ to follow through. And if Obama feels that Clinton's actions as SoS potentially tarnishes his legacy, I think he'll direct Lynch to follow through to save that legacy.
One Presidency that will be tarnished will be Bill Clinton's
I think the consensus before this election was that Bill Clinton was an above average president. Now, not only has the short-sightedness of his policies been exposed but he could go down as one of the more corrupt and disliked presidents.
Beware the bullshit factories.
In hindsight, maybe GHWB wasn't all that bad
At least we knew what to expect. And I'll give him credit for not marching into Iraq after Gulf War I despite the urgings of Dick Cheney and his ilk (they got the son to do it).
Bill Clinton
Was and is corrupt beyond belief.
I used to sum up my opinion of Wisconsin's boozing,
self-indulgent, womanizing, utterly corrupt Republican governor, Tommy Thompson, with the observation that the politician he most reminded me of was Bill Clinton.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Does Obama
want his legacy to be Hillary?
It already is
If he doesn't get it, he's not as smart as I used to think he was.
He appears to be a good witness
and a shrewd thinker. He shows courage of conviction.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Honest and genuine
Like Hillary
Joking
Honest, genuine and Hillary don't belong in the same sentence.
All I can tell you is this
I've studied some forms of persuasion, and when a person is inconsistent, there tend to be tells. This guy looks integrated and consistent. I GIVE A DAMN that a guy (who is/was far from perfect, but IS a person and deserves the dignity of being treated well when he is ill) was being exploited when his health was in such a critical state. This guy really seems to be conscious of the exploitation and absolutely put himself on the line to curtail it. I don't know anything about the rest of his behavior, but I think this action was rather heroic, and I give him props for that. I believe this was the first time the story came out, and he was compelled to give testify, he was not doing this to chalk it up for his own credit. I don't know what else he has or hasn't done, but he gets credit for this. It was extreme brave and righteous behavior (and I mean that in the very best sense).
I've been that ill and have had family make decisions for me which were directly contrary to my best interests when there was jack sh*t I could do to stand up for myself (well, to stand up in any fashion, actually).
Hillary Clinton does NOT have that instinct and care to look out for others on this basic level, imo - she simply does not embody this level of humanity. The best one could get out of her in a similar circumstance is that she might have staff to tend to someone. Other than that, she's that got good Republican spirit of 'I've got mine, eff you.'
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Why can't the Republicans run someone like
Comey for president? The guy has integrity. (The last was a statement rather than an answer to my own question; however,...)
Thank you for the video. It means a lot.
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Thanks for watching it.
I think both parties should be abandoned, totally corrupt. James Comey may be our best hope.
Comey best hope to expose Hillary and Bill.
Bernie best hope to lead the nation forward!!!!!!!
We can't trust Obama or Lynch
So, when they refuse to indict, will he resign? I don't have the answer to that.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
I think he will given past statements
Like in the video. I'm not so sure the Justice Department will refuse to indict. Obama knows revenge is a dish best served cold.
Trust the FBI?
Haha. Let me know how that works out.
But they may have their own reasons for hating Hillary
and wanting to take her down.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I could be wrong, it could be just RW bull
but the word in the 90s was that the FBI had utter contempt for Janet Reno, and therefore Bill Clinton. Supposedly that was the underlying reason for Waco.
On to Biden since 1973
There seems to be a split in the Deep State I don't understand
Otherwise this investigation wouldn't even be happening. It's not like they're not capable of sweeping it casually under the rug.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Maybe Hillary actually f*cked up really really badly.
Maybe foreign governments did get ahold of SAP info from her server.
James Comey's legacy depends on indicting Hillary (or not)
It seems clear that Hillary Clinton created an unwise risk to our National Security when she set up an unsecured server in her bathroom, and then proceeded to conduct, and store, classified State Department business on it.
I think there is a prima facia case of negligence, and a good case for the commission of more serious and flagrant security violations which could be brought against Hillary Clinton.
I hope James Comey sets aside all political ramifications, and does his duty to us, the American people, in deciding whether to indict Hillary Clinton.
Be a Friend of the Earth, cherish it and protect it.
James seems to be
A very good man.
Yes
I think you're correct in the severity of what she's done. And as much as all the politicians LOVE people in the service and veterans, can you imagine how many of them she put in harms way? And much of what other governments learned, people are probably STILL in harms way. It certainly lowers my opinion of Obama to attempt to hide it all (just careless) that he keeps his silence and allows her to run for President. And he certainly knows about the election fraud in every state, but ---silence. For whatever reason, he actually made one appointment, Comey, who has some integrity. If they won't indict, I think (hope) that there is a lot of information that will leak.
I completely agree.
I think Obama chose James Comey for the Director of the FBI for this very reason, because Obama was planning all along, to indict Hillary.
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Truman truth
Bernie is telling the truth.
James Comey, Torturer
Yeah, he's a stand-up guy, alright.
https://theintercept.com/2016/02/25/fbi-director-james-comey-who-signed-...
Obviously, he's not a good person
But people are complex. Sometimes bastards have limits. Or, they don't, but in one individual case, they have a reason to go after a particular person that does need to be gone after--for other reasons.
This guy seems like a bastard who thinks he has a moral code, and therefore has some things that are off-limits. As opposed to your garden-variety sociopath like Hillary and her Wall St buddies, who live by "Do whatever you can get away with."
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
No, he's not
and while I remain hopeful that Comey will buck the establishment and actually do his job and indict Mrs. Clinton over the damned illegal-as-fuck email server setup--I'm not counting on it. And frankly, the references I see here, to him as "an honest man", are troublesome. He ain't all that....
We can't be counting on the guy to "do the right thing", though I agree more with the idea that there's no love lost between the FBI and the Clintons. It's simply a matter of "who has the most power" in Washington, overall--and if James Comey actually had enough power to do the right thing, I am going to suppose that he really could have done it by now.
I think we're just being led to believe "something will happen" to buy time--he's not going to do SHIT to her.
And he hasn't.
Honest Man
Well, at least compared to Hillary. I know little about Comey other than this video of his testimony and the fact that Obama appointed him to be the Director of the FBI. I want to see the Clintons indicted and convicted. Don't think there is much love between the Clintons and Obamas.
Will he do his job?
Clinton communicated with Obama via email. That means Obama knew she had a private server, if he has a brain in his head, which he does.
So does that make Obama part of the conspiracy?
Yup, there you have it....
because who's going to indict the Nobel Prize Winning POTUS?
That depends...
On what the Clintons have on him, even if it something of their own creation.
No, not necessarily...
You can have a private domain but not have a private server.
Granted, its likely she had a private server, but its not a definite thing.
Also, shouldn't people be trusted to do their damn job? Should the president have to go to every appointee and ask them if they are doing things they were told not to do?
I don't think he could be help accountable for her crimes.
Torture
Is a disgrace, as is 'The Patriot Act' over the 3,000 pages passed just weeks after 9/11. From the intercept.com article Comey did sign off on waterboarding which is clearly torture. He also apparently was pushing back against many of the policies with some limited success.
He was confirmed by the Senate 93-1.
I see that and I say to myself
"He's not going to touch her with a freakin' ten-foot barge pole..."
We have to start assuming "the right thing" isn't gonna happen where the FBI is concerned.
Wow, that was political drama to beat TV political drama,
in my very limited TV political drama experience. I don’t know what to believe. I sometimes have trouble distinguishing between fiction and non-fiction, when it comes to politics on the public stage, even though my tendency is to register ‘fiction' for the lot of it. Though Comey does present as authentic I reserve any opinion, since I regard politicians or political officeholders in general, to be bogus.
Umm...
So this is irony, right?
Irony? The way things are going, who can even tell anymore? n/t
Sounds like he was protecting his pal Ashcroft
When it comes to protecting us, I have my doubts.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
I'd missed this - apparently the FBI reports to DWS
So she's already aware that there will be no i-word.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Please clarify your comment
Debbie Wasserman-Shultz has no authority over the FBI, and you appear to be saying that???
Its (an attempt at) sarcasm about the video
She claims she's been briefed and she knows things the media and the rest of us do not know... I'd say the vid is worthless, except that it's a textbook example of deflection and should be used in communications classes to show what someone who's lying looks like in action.
She says at about minute 2:00 that Clinton is not a target of the Security *Inquiry.*
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
What does that mean...
Does that mean she is informed and free to spin how she wants, or is she part of the chain of command? Because I cannot imagine an FBI Director being subordinate to some Congresswoman...
I presume the question is directed to me...
I apparently failed to convey that I was using sarcasm in describing what's in the video - see my comment above to lunachickie. DWS is saying with a straight face in the video that she is in the loop and knows more that we do... This part of the discussion starts at about minute 2:00...
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member