Did You Catch Chuck Todd on Meet The Press?!

Submitted by MsGrin on Sun, 05/22/2016 - 8:13pm

He makes a point of highlighting how much stronger Bernie is against Trump than Hillary:

Start paying particular attention about 1:35 of this clip when they start talking about unfavorability numbers. Record highs, Todd says.

A bit on, Chuck Todd says that nineteen percent those surveyed is unfavorable to both candidates and says these are the swing voters -

The Graphic which comes up on the screen says:

GENERAL ELECTION MATCHUP
Negative Feelings Towards Trump & Hillary

Donald Trump 33%

Hillary Clinton 28%

Neither 36%

He says, 'You ask people whom they're for, they are narrowly for Trump, thirty-six percent say neither or a third candidate.'

Then he says, 'Now you match up Trump and Sanders? It's 59% of these people are for Sanders. Helene, these are Sanders voters.' (She is Helene Cooper, Pentagon Correspondent, The New York Times)

Now the graphic image doesn't quite match what he's saying, so I'm following what he's saying as opposed to what the image shows... He says

For Donald Trump 25%

For Bernie Sanders 59%

For Neither 12%

So, I didn't think I'd be saying this this season, but Chuck Todd maybe gets it. Wow.

Helene then deflects what Todd has handed off to her saying that Bernie supporters are young people who are feeling passionate and that Hillary supporters want a Democrat... and then she goes on to compliment Hillary's new slogan (Stonger Together) that they had been discussing earlier with the VERY strong endorsement of 'I don't think it's that bad.'

In another part of the show, Helene describes watching her nephew say that he's not going to vote this fall given the way the race is shaping up, and Helene says there are a lot of disaffected youth these days and that she 'laughed him out of the kitchen.'

Then there's a clip of Hillary Clinton saying that polls this far out don't mean anything.

The web site plays the segments out of order, so I'm not sure at what part of the show Todd has a VERY serious discussion with Mark Cuban about whether he'd accept an offer to run for VP with either/both Trump and Clinton.

So, all that happened inside of an hour. My head is spinning.

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/clinton-pivots-to-the-general-election-690579523737
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Submitted by dkmich on Sun, 05/22/2016 - 8:33pm

I am not surprised by the statistics at all. Bernie looks like he is going to hang tough. He wants the superDs to change their vote. The end of that sentence should be "or else". If he isn't willing to make threats, BernieOrBust is.

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Submitted by MsGrin on Sun, 05/22/2016 - 8:37pm
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Submitted by Not Henry Kissinger on Sun, 05/22/2016 - 8:34pm
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The beltway media is starting to come around to the possibility of a nominee Bernie.

Nobody's saying anything yet, of course, but you can see them all thinking it.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

Submitted by MsGrin on Sun, 05/22/2016 - 8:38pm
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Submitted by Not Henry Kissinger on Sun, 05/22/2016 - 8:55pm
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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

Submitted by Heart of the Rockies on Sun, 05/22/2016 - 9:30pm

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Submitted by ESKOS on Sun, 05/22/2016 - 8:42pm

and I might have to give Chuck Todd a slight uptick in favorables! I'm not sure why he wasn't totally dismissive of Bernie, per usual, but happy that he seemed a bit more fair and balanced. I'm waiting for that one brave journalistic mainstream-media-bought soul to call bullcrap on what the media has done to Bernie. All it would take is ONE to stand up before the others follow. I think it was a Huffington Post article in which was said that this presidential 2015-2016 year is a dream come true for journalists - to be able to cover the Hillary/Bernie story - wow, what journalist wouldn't want to cover that!? And so far all we have is a one-sided Hillary story. In some ways this is better than the Obama/Hillary saga because we are talking about a 74 year-old democratic socialist, who waves his arms around a lot, taking on and challenging the queen of politics, the queen who has been waiting for the throne to be hers and hers alone. Not just taking her on but within reach of winning, and potentially pulling the red carpet out from under the queen, and yet not one mainstream-media so-called journalist has the integrity to cover this side of the story.

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Submitted by MsGrin on Sun, 05/22/2016 - 8:50pm
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He hasn't seemed to miss an opportunity to dis Bernie before now. Might be something in the water...

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Submitted by ConeArt on Mon, 05/23/2016 - 1:24am

I think this video is the first I've seen to even attempt by MSM to address the obviously rigged primary. Good on 'Morning Joe'.. (not all the facts are right.. but) They do a good job of trying to be fair.
Kudos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abnkjCZTJDI

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Submitted by Liberal Mole on Mon, 05/23/2016 - 7:45am

Who was a nationally known celebrity and "authority figure" when he started his campaign. I hope somehow, maybe with some help from the FBI or some wily anti-hackers in CA & NJ, he can pull off a win. No matter what happens, this is THE story of this election, what historians will be writing about. As Clinton's numbers continue to worsen, Obama may allow the Justice Dept to indict her as she deserves. Even if Bernie just goes back to the senate they will all be in awe of him. After all, he can send out a tweet and suddenly your primary or election opponent could raise a million dollars, or your office flooded with angry calls.

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Submitted by Wink on Mon, 05/23/2016 - 9:48am
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Submitted by WindDancer13 on Sun, 05/22/2016 - 9:22pm
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they can do to stop it. Take the graphic for example, it was made that way to look like Sanders was less favored. Visual cues tend to outweigh the spoken. They had just shown both negatives for Trump and HRC. People (who want to) are going to assume that Sanders number is a negative also.

We the People could really use a good hacker about now. Imagine these types of programs with a running banner at the bottom telling people that they were being lied to. = )

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Submitted by Wink on Mon, 05/23/2016 - 9:51am
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Get enough progressive to support it and TV we have! We plan on "being on TV" in some sort of fashion by this time next year.

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Submitted by Galtisalie on Sun, 05/22/2016 - 9:30pm
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but it's a good takedown of Clinton: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/05/22/opinion/sunday/weakend-at-bernies.h...

Clinton is just as dreadful a prospective candidate as we always knew she would be. And that's not even getting to policy.

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Submitted by Bisbonian on Sun, 05/22/2016 - 9:53pm
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the "violence" in Nevada.

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Submitted by MsGrin on Sun, 05/22/2016 - 10:19pm
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I sent Dowd the links so she can look for herself.

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Submitted by Galtisalie on Sun, 05/22/2016 - 10:09pm
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I’ve talked to several former Clinton and Obama White House aides who don’t enjoy checking in with the joyless Clinton campaign in Brooklyn. “It’s the Bataan Death March,” one says.

Hopeful acceptance of Hillary has shifted to amazed disbelief that she can’t put away Bernie. Given dynasty fatigue and Hillary’s age, many Democrats assumed that their front-runner would come out of the gate with a vision for the future that gave her campaign a fresh hue, instead of white papers tinkering around the edges. She should have been far over her husband’s bridge to the 21st century and way down the highway by now.

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Submitted by BayAreaLefty on Mon, 05/23/2016 - 9:32am

about her "vision." She needed it to happen that way, at least, because her vision ends with "I want to be President." That's why she comes off as inauthentic. I mean in addition to her lies and corruption, anyway.

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Submitted by Wink on Mon, 05/23/2016 - 10:36am
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Submitted by GreyWolf on Sun, 05/22/2016 - 10:56pm
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[video:https://youtu.be/yA8HT324wro]

The gray haired fellow, 'Alex,' says, at 3.29, there is a 70% wrong track rating, and then goes on to say, "If we keep going in that direction ..."

That. As in singular. If he was thinking clearly he would have said 'those directions.' That 70% probably somewhat matches the Trump/Sanders numbers (25%/59%), meaning about a third feel the nation is headed too far left while two-thirds feel the nation is headed too far right. I really don't think that the Alex fellow understands that the 70% he quotes isn't a monolithic group of conservatives, but is actually divided among the far-left and the far-right.

Joy-Ann tries to enlighten Alex by pointing out that a segment of that 70% are nostalgic (conservatives) but in Alex's fearful (conservative?) mind he quashes her view and goes back to railing against the feared "change" word.

Chuck does seem to finally be getting it when they get to the word 'risk', and he becomes somewhat excited pointing out that a candidate trying to label others as a risk is usually a sign of desperation, and impending loss, for whoever is trying to throw that meme out there.

Alex does at the end show his analytic ability when he returns to the dreaded word 'change' once again, and notes, "And that's the campaign she doesn't want to run." (But gee, my pet rock could have figured that out.)

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Submitted by ZimInSeattle on Sun, 05/22/2016 - 11:45pm
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berniepollsbetter.png

We all know Hillary is the better choice because you know, reasons.

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Submitted by ConeArt on Mon, 05/23/2016 - 1:15am

I like how squirmy they all seem in the video. Not one is sure about Hillary.. Not simply unsure about her message, but whether she actually has a message. It seems they agree. She does not. *ha

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Submitted by riverlover on Mon, 05/23/2016 - 4:45am
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And that's all she's got. Hard to hang a hat on ownership with no idea what for.

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Submitted by MsGrin on Mon, 05/23/2016 - 9:30am
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