The Bernie Sanders Report 5.18

The Bernie Sanders Revolution Is Still Alive!!!

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Bernie Sanders could win all the remaining States from here on, except for New Jersey.

But regardless of the exact outcome, what is clear is that Hillary Clinton will not have enough pledged Delegates by herself to clinch the Nomination on the first ballot. In other words, the "math" does not favor Hillary Clinton. There will be technically an Open Convention in July, with no clear cut winner officially declared on the first ballot. The Media won't tell you that, but I (and the Sanders Campaign) will.

Now, we all know that the preference of Party Establishment, and the "Super Delegates" will be pointed to by the U.S. Media as proof that the race is all over anyway. The Convention will probably not even be covered on TV at all aside from the final prime time speeches. But the fact is that it is not all over. In an open convention, momentum matters and a reappraisal of which candidate is truly the strongest General Election candidate matters.

Sanders will have ample evidence at that time to prove that he is the strongest candidate with Independents, the political Left, and the General Election demographics. The Party will then have to decide: do we allow Clinton to take us all down, or do we turn to the candidate that does best against Trump? That's a fight worth having, and a real one. There will also be fights over the "Party Platform" which will be symbolic of the big dispute between what Sanders represents and what Clinton represents -- even though it is meaningless in terms actually impacting policy. But that fight will also make it clear that the Sanders voting block is a very, very large one, and the Democratic Party cannot compete successfully with only half of its true constituency.

So that's the power that we all have.

We hereby form one-half of the Democratic Party constituency. If they don't nominate Bernie --- then we all walk (Jill Stein could benefit). Hillary Clinton is going to lose either way (Trump will be happy to expose her foreign policy incompetence and corruption like no one else ever has). So protecting Hillary Clinton here is not a strategy. Protecting the Sanders Revolution however is.

Bernie Sanders should also go out and lead huge rallies right near the site of the Democratic Convention itself in July to clearly demonstrate to the public the huge, huge, support that he really has here. Had these Elections been fair and inclusive, Sanders probably would have won 28-30 States. By doing this, the pressure can be put on to make it clear to the public that there is only one candidate in the race that is going to survive a long battle against Trump.

So we will have an Open Convention. The Sanders Revolution is very much alive and well.

And Sanders owes no favors, or concessions, or cease fires to either Hillary Clinton, or the Democratic Party here.

The whole purpose of the Convention is to decide which direction the Party will go in, and what the Party will represent.
And this convention is the first open one in decades. So it is full speed ahead.

GAME ON!

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if she gets the nomination voter. However, the Clinton campaign and most of its outspoken supporters are so deluded/dishonest in thinking/saying that a great many Sanders supporters will not walk. The way to maximize the hold their nose and vote for the stinker group is to have a platform that is Sanders', adopt Sanders' intra-party democracy positions (end to closed primaries, end to acceptance of corporate/lobbyist money, etc.), and nominate Elizabeth Warren. I know that this will still not keep many of us but it will greatly help.

The response I get is the virtual bird flipped at me over and over again by the dumb shit/lying assholes. They love posting the you get nothing video in reply. Too smart ass for their own good. [video:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ] Neoliberals, can't take 'em anywhere.

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for VP, of course.

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removes her from the senate and parks her in a symbolic role to attract votes of those gullible enough to believe she will be allowed to influence policy.

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If Elizabeth's were Bernie's Veep, he would use her to work in Congress to actually pass his agenda into law. With Hillary, it would be sitting her on a shelf, where she won't be free to shine a light on the 0.1 percenters latest shenanigans.

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Warren with hrc will place her in the basement where she will not be seen or heard. If Warren does something like that with hrc, she will lose my respect forever.

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

It doesn't really matter who Clinton picks as VP, as the VP has no true power.

It will be Clinton's decision who will escalate the troops, begin a "no fly Zone" standoff with Russia, and unleash the madness of "Regime Change" and perpetrate new War Atrocities from the Middle-East to Venezuela to Africa all the way to the Pacific Rim.

The more that we vote for Clinton, the more we just shift the Democratic Party completely backwards (in the wrong direction).

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My rationale for holding my nose is personal and my own, but I will summarize:

Solidarity and a dialectical process with POC and the undocumented, including my Honduran friends who hate Clinton but still fear deportation under Trump; Supreme Court; a general philosophy of voting on the ever-shifting left wing of the possible, which means that yes, I do vote for the LOTE.

I'm also one who believes for now that a democratic take over of the Democratic Party is the best strategy. I've thought about this a lot: https://gardenvarietydemocraticsocialist.com/2015/05/21/solidarity-in-th...

I'm well aware that most of my friends on the hard left disagree with me, but this is where I stand for now. But I may eventually jump ship.

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When I say my friends on the left, I mean my comrades. I consider myself hard left. I'm on the radical side of democratic socialism, but still vote LOTE in US presidential elections, at least for now and this go around.

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that a vote for Hillary will actually be a vote for the more effective evil.

Also see this.

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I know the arguments, but a sincere thank for the links. And I'm fine with being a minority on this one here. We can fully engage on this later after the nomination if Clinton gets it. I'm still fighting hard for Bernie. I've been warning the Clintonites they are in for a big surprise, but they don't care, so the surprise will no doubt be even bigger.

With a VP nominee other than Warren she could easily lose.

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I have the luxury of being in a state that has voted strongly Republican in recent years (in no small part, I believe, due to abandonment by the DNC). If HRC has a chance of winning in my state, she will certainly be elected President, carrying at least 40 states. This means that I can vote as I wish without fear of consequence. For those in states that matter, the choice is monumentally depressing. I take heart, however, from the fact that Bernie has done extraordinarily well and has a small, but real chance of becoming the nominee. This against horrible media miss-coverage. It shows the depth of feeling among the citizens of this country. The corporatists are running scared and will do everything they can to keep us down, to be sure. If Bernie is not the nominee, we will have to harness the energy he has brought to take over the Democratic party from the hacks that run it now (and have run it into the ground).

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ok another very bad outlier comment. All I wanted to say is that I really don't want Elizabeth Warren to be the VP of Sanders. The way I said it, was vulgar. That's why I am grateful to be able to erase my first version of this comment.

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They are and will cheat, lie and steal. It is a fixed match. I'm sad to say that the convention will be an agonizing exercise in futility. It is needless to go to the convention. Bernie is DOA if he goes to the convention. I believe he needs to start a new party after the last primary. I believe he should not waste time at the convention. I truly believe it is pointless and a waste of energy to participate in the rigged DNC!

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By participating, and contesting every inch of the way ... you then expose the corruption to the point where even the U.S. Media can't ignore it anymore. And in that atmosphere you could possibly win.

But even if not, contesting this still serves our purpose here, and also provides even more fuel and activism for a 3rd Party effort.

But going away quietly never will!

So we will not be enslaved, and we will not go silent, and we must make The Democratic Establishment feel our weight and our wrath!

That's how progress can happen.
There has to be a cost!

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I admire your enthusiasm and spirit! I just really believe that going to the convention is setting Bernie's people up for a huge and very dangerous failure! Why risk the lives of innocent people when a third party could be formed before the convention. I truly believe Bernie's people will be walking into a DNC trap --- the DNC intends to kill our revolution, and I have no doubt they will succeed!

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Hillary Clinton cannot win outright on the first ballot.

That's important. It means that Sanders has fought her to an even 50-50 coalition within the Party. So now .... is not the time to back away here. Will the DNC rig things? Of course, but if they do this -- then they just lay out their own death warrant. Trump will easily dispatch of Clinton in the exact, identical same way that he demolished the favored son (and favored Oligarch): Jeb Bush! (remember him?)

So you fight on that principle. The Convention may descend into total chaos here, and we really don't know what will happen at that point. Rumors of Clinton being called before the FBI could even emerge. So there is no reason to just back away from the fight, which is after all -- a fight for the soul and heart of the Democratic Party itself.

You just go for it.

Technically, it is too late to "form" a new 3rd Party anyway. Sanders could however team up with Jill Stein and the existing Green Party, but there is no indication that he wants to do this. So what we do here is just use our 50% power block to force the Democratic Party to wake up and face that reality.

The truth is that .... Clinton cannot win without us.
That is the important reality here.

They need us.

So we make them run Bernie as the nominee. We force our will (50%) on them. And if they just cheat, then they will pay the price in November. That's how this works.

Now do they really want to take that risk, with Donald Trump standing by ready to demolish the sanitized image of Hillary Clinton -- a clearly weak, aimless candidate and incompetent policy maker? Their choice will be harder ... than you think it is.

So it is full speed ahead folks.
This is Hardball, and you have to be ready to put on your jock strap .. for Hardball.

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But the people who choose to go will be going with full awareness of that and can plan ahead how to diffuse or lessen the impact of that trap. The alternative is to stay home and do nothing, and we know where that has gotten us.

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Is because if they can shut us up with fear than they have already won. If they can make us all stay home in silence, then they don't need to worry about us at all.

It's important for people to show up if only to show that we will not be silenced.

Also, it's a risk for them, too. If they can successfully paint us as violent anarchists, they might get away with use of force - but there's always a risk that the public won't be cool with a bunch of young (white, college-going) people getting hurt or arrested. (We already know the public is largely A-OK with POC getting hurt or arrested. Even with the media in their pocket, its a risk for them. Should they misstep and go overboard, it could be very, very bad for them. It could be enough to wake up a lot more of the populace.

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He should renounce the party primary win or not. They are corporate thieves, both GOP and DNC. Young voters support Bernie their lives matter.

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but their success is far from assured. The Clinton campaign has a way of stepping on rakes and having their moves backfire.

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The convention is going to be important for one very, very big reason. We the People need to hear whether or not Sanders is going to endorse HRC. If he does and asks his voters to vote for her in November, then we know that it is time to find new leaders, and some of those very people are likely to be there at the convention.

The progressive movement is going to need a face or faces that help ensure cohesion and coalition building. We have all tried to make changes in little disconnected groups, and that does not work well. It never has.

We can thank Sanders for exposing so many truths, but if he is going to tow the party line, then it will be Thanks for the Memories, but we have to go now.

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We can thank Sanders for exposing so many truths, but if he is going to tow the party line, then it will be Thanks for the Memories, but we have to go now.

At that point -- Cat deliver us from ever seeing it! -- we'll be "already gone" !!

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Well I know it wasn't you who held me down
Heaven knows it wasn't you who set me free
So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains
And we never even know we have the key

But me, I'm already gone
And I'm feelin' strong
I will sing this vict'ry song
'Cause I'm already gone .....

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Just in case (geez, I sure hope it won't happen), if it turns out that way, someone should carry this song with them to Philadelphia...We are already strong!

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consequently -- GO DONALD!!! It will be a true pleasure to see that nasty neocon/neoliberal sliced and diced by a master of the art --

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When Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said “Let us march”.

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I can understand easily voting Green, but you're not thinking of voting for Trump if Clinton gets the nomination are you? He's a POS.

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He'd be much worse than her. Really, I know the arguments on how she will be to his right on some things on paper but he'd be a nightmare. It's embarrassing that anyone here would consider voting for Trump and not Green if you can't stomach Clinton.

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Trump may be a tool, but HRC is the real thing. Sure things may be shit under Trump, but it is a guarantee that things will be shit under her...putting Bill Clinton in charge of the economy, says pretty much all that needs to be said.

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I submit that that proposition is at best unproven, and at worst — well, boatloads of evidence to the contrary are arriving at the clue depot every day.

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There is this thing called civil rights. Fascists don't believe in them. Trump doesn't believe in them. Clinton is fine on civil rights. Ask the POC and undocumented who they'd prefer. This is just a deluded pretense.

I don't like Clinton at all. And I'd love to have the luxury of voting for Stein in good conscience because my policies preferences are more aligned with her even than Bernie.

But to vote for the fascist is WRONG.

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lotlizard's picture

in this situation. (And I am a PoC, by the way.)

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parochial definition of civil rights that stops at the borders of the U.S. and, to name just one example, doesn’t include the idea that people in Arab or other Muslim regions are humans whose lives and aspirations are worth as much as the lives and aspirations of people in Western countries.

Not saying Trump is good; to look at a different example, both Trump and Clinton are bad about Snowden. But isn’t Clinton the one who, as Secretary of State, actually pulled Snowden’s passport? And made all kinds of false statements about whistleblowers and the channels open to them?

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policy, including foreign civil rights. I needed to clarify that. Above I mentioned Honduras. Western Sahara is another example, and of course Iraq, and the list goes on.

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is the real problem with Clinton. That we can all sit back and say "there it is", over and over ("It" being her various positions, virtually all which are problematic at the very least) means we know what to expect.

Yes, Trump is a fascist actor. And he is a fascist actor that has not a clue how to get things done in Washington. The fact that he's not going to get a whole lot of cooperation, particularly if the Dems win downticket, means he's less of a danger, IMO.

It's a fools errand and a devil's choice. And it's also the lesser of two evils, in a really sick measurement of either of them. I trust that intelligent folks like us know how to reason things through, without being overly influenced by the "fear" factor.

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I think (or at least hope) that even those of us here who may not, at this moment, agree with you can still totally appreciate your point of view and particularly the fears of the undocumented.

It’s an unholy mess, that’s for sure.

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I think of my Honduran friends the most, because I see them everyday and know that they would suffer enormously.

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don't include the Honduran children that Hillary deported to "send a message." The woman is a stone-cold killer. I happen to think "civil rights" include the right to live. She has no respect for that.

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Seriously? No, Clinton TALKS fine on civil rights. Meanwhile, thanks to Bill Clinton, we have a for-profit prison system and far more POC incarcerated. Oh, and welfare "reform" which took away food and security from a whole lot of minorities and their children.

Not to mention, are civil rights only for Americans? What about the Syrians, the Hondurans, the Iraqis, the Palestinians?

Corporations don't care about civil rights or human rights. Clinton supports TPP - the "gold standard" for selling out your government to corporate takeover.

It is entirely rational. Trump may be a fascist, but we can fight that here on the ground. He's also a buffoon and unlikely to be overly effective. Clinton already has everything in place - all the relationships, all the corporate backers, to quickly enact her horrible agendas. The worst part about Clinton is that she deceitful and says the right things, all the while doing the wrong things. Trump is what he is. At least you know where he stands and so you know where you need to fight him.

If you haven't read Naomi Klein's This Changes Everything, you need to read it - about how the already existing "Free Trade" treaties are making it impossible for countries to create local, green industries. Ontario had started an amazing push for renewable energy, and in order to also add jobs to their economy, they required a majority of jobs to be created in Ontario for any companies involved. They were quickly growing their green infrastructure when they were sued by another country (China?) under these awful trade deals, and it all collapsed. It's disgusting and infuriating, the very idea that another country can tell a local community how they can run their own lives and organize their community. I will do anything, including ensuring Trump wins over Clinton, to stop the TPP from being signed.

ETA: I realized after the fact that this sounds preachy. I'm not trying to tell you how to vote - we all have to make our own decisions. I get that you consider the fate of your friends to be your priority. For your sake, I hope Clinton doesn't fail you if she wins. I don't think Trump will actually deport more people than Obama - but none of us really know. For me, nothing is more important than keeping her out of office. Peace.

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Too funny, your low level advocacy on here, for Clinton. She is the real deal, Randall Flagg in the flesh. Sorry you can't see it, but the great majority of us have our eyes wide open. 'Never going back again' says it all for me and if that means Trump burning it to the ground, so we can rebuild, for the future, bring it on! Meanwhile, we will fight for a president who actually sees the people. I have children and grandchildren in this dogfight, who have much more to lose than I do, since I am older, but they are saying the same thing. Courage and remember that freedom isn't free.

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Galtisalie's picture

The patronizing analysis of my potential vote for her if she gets the nomination doesn't hurt my feelings or cause me to doubt my potential vote. Blast away. I'm doing my best as a species being.

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HRC has a proven record. She will be very bad for all the reasons others have listed. Trump is better on some issues (although he changes from hour to hour). However, Trump is a complete narcissist and probably a psychopath in the strict sense of the word (https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mindmelding/201301/what-is-psychopa...)(HRC has psychopathic tendencies as well but not as much as the Donald). The potential downside (at least for the short term) is greater for Trump. God this will be a depressing election unless Bernie miraculously pulls out something.

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If Trump wins, then the whole Democratic Left (progressives and even the moderates) would come together to try to block the right-wing extremism, and the bad policies. Movement on the left would therefore grow and build ...

But if Hillary Clinton wins, then the Democratic Establishment will just protect and defend her initiatives whether that means starting new Wars, supporting the TPP, deregulating Wall Street, jailing whistleblowers, making it harder for non-party loyalists to vote, cutbacks to Social Security, supporting Monsanto, or whatever. There will be no opposition from many elements of the Left.

The consequences are (with Hillary) that the whole Country, and the Democratic Party drifts willingly more and more to the right, and those rightwing, corporatist, warmonger policies then become accepted universally as the "moderate" choice.

No Thanks!

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Galtisalie's picture

hunted down like dogs and deported by the fascist.

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I am presuming you're aware of Clinton history with Honduras and the coup it suffered, yes? How can you possibly assume, therefore, that the only possible deportation of your friends would HAVE TO oiginate from an American government leaning Right?

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A Clinton Presidency is an American government leaning Right (Reich).

She never met a War, or a "Regime Change", or a Coup that she didn't like.

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Galtisalie's picture

Yes I've harshly criticized her for her Honduran policies and many other policies foreign and domestic. As I said, I have Honduran friends who've lived it first hand and can't stand her yet still prefer her over Trump, who's expressed policy is to deport them.

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I heard it this morning. I can't support that. He claims to be a democrat. He appears to be a kinder and gentler democrat than hrc. So, that begs the question, what will hrc do? She's already come out in favor of deportations. I find it interesting that you fear Herr Drumpf and not hrc when she has a track record that can be verified. But, you need to do what's best for you and your psyche.

The primary isn't over yet - the convention hasn't happened yet - all this moaning over Herr Drumpf and hrc is such a waste of energy when we can be supporting Bernie and pushing for his nomination. I believe things are going to change in our favor. I could be wrong, but let's all start with the positive vibes instead of these negative ones.

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as anyone who knows me will realize. I simply wanted to inform readers at this site how much the Clinton camp is oblivious. I'm fine with being criticized on all sides, but as I said this discussion can await the results of the convention.

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Meteor Blades has (or had) relatives in Libya. Other people have friends who are in the crosshairs in Israel-Palestine, or who are in prison in a country that hunts journalists, or who are facing 1000 lashes by order of emir, king, or sheikh, or . . .

Others were close to someone who, up until a few months ago, was in Afghanistan. Working. In a hospital. For Doctors Without Borders.

Loyalty to one’s friends. Rational? Emotional?

If we could see into each other’s heads and hearts, would we not see things we’d rather were left unspoken . . . ?

Whose friends are important to me? Mine, of course. Whose friends are not my problem? His. Hers. Theirs. Yours. Better that the hammer should fall on them than on us. Yes, if need be, I will tell them that directly to their face: better on you and yours than on me and mine. Sorry. That’s just the way it is.

Basic needs and loyalties conflict. Painful. Difficult.

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..... is what we're going to have in November unless Bernie gets the Dems' nomination. There's no lesser between these evils. If you honestly believe that there's five minutes' bismuth decay products' difference between Hillary and Donald, you're clearly seeing something I can't see. They'll nominate the exact same SCOTUS justices, they'll have identical immigration policies (i.e., per order of Goldman Sachs and as brown-intolerant as possible), etc. Trump just has a louder mouth right now.

In this Comment, I likened Trump to "The Beast from the Sea" and Clinton to "The Beast from the Land" in Chapter 13 of the Biblical Book of Revelation. You might just want to go and check it out!

Love and Solidarity to you always, Galtisalie!

Give rose

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Galtisalie's picture

Please see my comments above. Clinton at least wouldn't be likely to deport my friends. That means a lot to me. You know I agree with all or most of your critique of her. I can understand as a matter of conscience one voting Green, although I'm not willing to do that this cycle at least. I can't and won't countenance voting for Trump. But it's a free country, and I'm all for free and full discussion now because the Clinton campaign is in for a rude awakening if they don't take a dramatically different approach to Sanders and his supporters and the policies he supports. And yes, I realize her word is worthless.

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Shahryar's picture

that's how bad Hillary Clinton is

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If Bernie is out, Trump is in. Hillary is corruption.

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Biden is a good guy but not a visionary. If you do the crime, do the time Clintons.

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WindDancer13's picture

That really bad, nasty bankruptcy bill...his.

The 1994 Violent Crime Act...his.

Iraq Vote...Aye.

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PhilJD's picture

during the Clarence Thomas hearings. He's despicable.

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Hillary Clinton 2016: I'm a proud progmoderate!

WindDancer13's picture

I watched those hearings, so there is no excuse for not remembering one of the main , if not the main, reason I no longer liked or trusted him.

Obama would have known these things and more when he selected him as VP.

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Pluto's Republic's picture

…I'm backing Deez Nutz as my plan B.

Sure, he's young (16) but he really gets me.

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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato

With Hillary Clinton then .... yes ..... there is no democrat on the ballot.

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But why are all your images and videos so YUUGE??

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