Nevada Democratic Convention
Submitted by CFland on Sat, 05/14/2016 - 3:08pm
I'm putting this up not because I know the most, or say it the best, but because when you google Nevada Democratic Convention nothing comes up about the outright thievery being attempted there.
Oh yes. They called the vote before everyone was there and tried to pass it and are now fighting like wild to change the rules and get their cheating passed, giving 400 delegates to Hillary Clinton.
Disclaimer - duh? I'm a housewife. I've used this platform twice. But if you google and wonder why nothing comes up, it is NOT because nothing is happening.
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This looks really bad
apparently even freaking Barbara Boxer is there running the show for the ShillBots. She changed the rules on a voice vote, has been belittling Bernie voters and is trying to steal all the NV delegates.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Kossacks_for_Sanders/comments/4jcdsz/something_...
Someone needs to drop a house on Boxer too.
She's the one from the West, right? I can't believe all the years I was stupid enough to admire her. These people are going to keep this up until I vote for Trump out of pure spite. Anyway, it's hard to imagine putting the country into the hands of these people.
Twain Disciple
Barbara Boxer's Senate term is ending
She's not running for reelection but apparently she still wants a piece of the pie. The Democratic party must purge itself of the sellouts or die. Maybe that's the plan.
Beware the bullshit factories.
as for that bitchwhore Boxer
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Muerte al fascismo. Muerte a la tiranía. colapso total de los que promueven tampoco. A la pared con el unico porciento%
if "the math" is in clinton's favor, why resort to this crap
guess they aren't as confident as they portray
did 9 months in California prison, because Neoliberal Democrats and GOP maggots work together to profit off the drug war
Because it's what they are, what they do
Remember in 2008 when the Hillary campaign blatantly violated rules in two states and got their delegates suspended from the convention? And the temper tantrums she threw to try to get them illegally seated?
She. cheats. It's what she does. A cheater is what she is.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Apparently, it's more complicated than that.
It is true that Sanders got fewer delegates than he might have been entitled to. This, from TOP, seems like a mathematically plausible reason why this happened:
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
Somebody isn't paying attention
and is lapping up the swill from a tainted source, too.
Never mind the first round, never mind the second round - what went down in this LAST round was blatant violation of the rules.
THAT'S what we're all yelling about, because if there are no rules, there is no more democracy.
Do you get it NOW?
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Lnk to Facebook video! Crazy stuff!
No Wonder...
Why they weren't concerned about they Hillary Delegates not showing up at the County Conventions...
They were planning on robbing them at the state convention....
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
OK Bernie
this "party" you adopted in order to run for president has turned out to be a sociopathic child. You knew it was such decades ago which was the reason you never became part of it's family. I know you caucused with it over the years but that was because it had the closest moral values to your own. Those days are long gone and this primary cycle should have shown you this. Bernie, after the dnc and clinton steal the nomination from you in Philly, as they have stolen primaries all across this country, will you then realize this thing called the democratic party was never meant for you? Maybe back in the days of FDR, JFK and even LBJ you could have had a home. But not in this democratic, and I use that term loosely, party of 2016. Please Bernie, run as an Independent. I and millions of others believe you can win. But at the very least you will have laid a strong foundation for the future of the change your candidancy inspired.
There is also this,
which if true, is also a problem for Sanders's supporters:
So, why weren't they? Didn't they know the rules?
Look, I'm just trying to ascertain the "true facts". If the above is false, please let me know why.
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
Too early for bottom lines
The comm violated the rules. Never a good way to start.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
so why don't
you provide a link to your "true facts" so we can all decide "if they knew the rules"
Be an informed and objective
Be an informed and objective citizen and do your own work.
It's not my responsibility to educate you, that responsibility lies within yourself.
CFland
I wasn't
addressing you. I was replying to tapu dali. And yes tapu dali made some assertions that the Sanders people fucked up in Nevada and yes it's his/her responsibility to back said assertions up with links. So no, that's not my responsibility to educate myself. Make statements like Bernie's supporters screwed up then back them up.
It is everyone's
It is everyone's responsibility to educate themselves.
Otherwise you get a room full of idiots voting for Hillary.
CFland
you make
a motherfucking assertion then back it up. That's what I'm saying. That's what TOP has going for it. Posters back their claims up with links. If people post anything they damn well please then you have misinformed people. You post a link, I read it and decide if its correct in my world. If I feel a need to pursue it then I'll search for the info. But, OTOH, I'm glad you have the time to sit on your ass and do research. I don't...bye...
I see nothing to emulate in a
I see nothing to emulate in a site very well known to be in the bag for Clinton, you are certainly welcome to A. Do your own research like an adult or B. To piss off
CFland
A sense of community.
I like caucus99percent because it has a great sense of community. Unlike other sites I've visited, the vast majority of people here are polite, ethical, and working toward a common purpose. Few members here put scare quotes around the words "true facts", and few stir trouble simply to stir trouble. This sense of community is a great thing. I hope the site owners keep this sense of community strong and thriving.
I know what they're up to.
I know what they're up to. They're infuriated I won't play dueling links. Fortunately my creedo is " I don't care about your boner." -Erin Gloria Ryan
My next blog post will be on the responsibility we all bear to be informed in this age of predigested sound bytes .
Thank you for the welcome and for reading and commenting.
CFland
Thank you.
Thanks for taking the time to write this essay. I read somewhere that at least on of the delegates that wasn't allowed has a long history with the Democratic party and was involved in the caucus on behalf of Sanders. Mysteriously, though, their party registration was switched without their knowledge from Democratic to Republican some time between February and May. This kind of thing is happening far too often to be mere coincidence.
@Bernie4People on Twitter has
@Bernie4People on Twitter has a picture of a refused delegates paperwork proving they were democrats.
CFland
Nina Turner in Nevada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyvQXvtfcLc
Geez, I thought HRC
already won the dem nomination.
dfarrah
Nope!
Still has to cheat...
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
fighting 4 every delegate - or - shut up & let them cheat
'Cheat' is such an ugly word.
Don't you know the politically correct term among Hillary supporters is 'pivot'?
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Or maybe it's 'massage.'
No, the term is
blow job.
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Muerte al fascismo. Muerte a la tiranía. colapso total de los que promueven tampoco. A la pared con el unico porciento%
Exactly why we need a contested Convention in Philly...
to expose the Dem Leadership on national television for the corrupt hacks they are.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
They seem to be doing that pretty well themselves!
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Every day, they give us another reason to protest.
It's getting like that scene from Planet of the Apes where the guy running the cages uses the cattle prod one too many times.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
I was in Chicago in 1968
I'm too goddamned crippled to protest in Philly.
Or I'd go, in body armor and wearing gas mask and O2 concentrator.
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Muerte al fascismo. Muerte a la tiranía. colapso total de los que promueven tampoco. A la pared con el unico porciento%
Chicago 1968? Wow, Fentress. Respect!
NPR: 1968 Chicago Riot Left Mark On Political Protests
I'm starting to believe...
that after Philadelphia, the Democratic Convention of 1968 will be remembered as the good ol' days.
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush
good tweet
I posted the Twitter tweet on the diary
At the place that doesn't mention WHY people are protesting what is happening.
The bots are not bothering to look into the facts, just want to write about how bad Bernie supporters are.
I'm pretty sure that if they had pulled that crap on Hillary they would feel differently.
Jesus!
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Responses so far
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Why I no longer bother posting there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg_8knBHEyw
"Polls don't tell us how well a candidate is doing; Polls tell us how well the media is doing." ~ Me
I wanted the facts out there
As I wrote, none of them were even bothering to look at why Bernie's supporters were upset.
I'm not giving them the right to just shove shit out against us with out the facts.
I know it doesn't change their minds, but other Bernie supporters might not have known the facts
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
(Richard J.) “Daley” Kos goes to Philadelphia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_J._Daley#1968_and_Later_Career
I'm glad I read this here
On top there's a diary about Bernie's supporters 'acting up' and other bullshit comment without giving THE REASON why they are.
Nor has anyone looked into what is happening that has upset them so much.
Just " Hillary won, Bernie lost get over it".
Damned right that Bernie needs to contest this. They are stealing our democratic process and installing their candidate.
What's next? Will the United Nations have to monitor US elections?
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
UN monitoring US elections...
we should be so lucky.
I think that these maneuvers are what Cusack and
Murray meant by the Dem Establishment not allowing a win (by Bernie).
And these maneuvers are similar to those that the Repub Establishment (at the state delegate level) have been pulling off for the past 3 or so months, in order to stop Trump's ascent to the nomination. He's just lucky that the Establishment Repubs don't have hundreds of superdelegates, like the Dems do. (as a firewall)
We need major election reform. But, one thing people might want to remember--the DLC's ascent to power came about, partly, by opening up primaries to Independents, or switching to open primaries--therefore, diluting the voices of heavily partisan (IOW, usually more liberal) primary voters.
This cycle, we have Bernie. But what if there's no Bernie (or Bernie-like candidate) the next Presidential cycle. Will the DLC's 'replacement' organization--No Labels--have a candidate waiting in the wings to exploit open primaries, like they hoped to do with John Kasich this cycle? Dunno. (But it's something to think about, IMO.)
Mollie
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went."--Will Rogers
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
I love your sig line.
It used to be mine at the other place.
Twain Disciple
Thanks, TD! I like the Rogers quote, too.
Mollie
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went."--Will Rogers
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
My first reaction to now and what-ifs
would be to run away from the entire teetering structure.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
Those independents were not these independents
Not by a long shot.
That said, it's always a good idea to keep an eye on No Labels.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Hey, CStS/SLMD! Good point; eyes peeled & ears open. ;-) EOM
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
You bet.
You bet.
CFland
TOP so sucks
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
so much for democracy
so much for democracy
tweet w/ reddit link
Can't have a revolution w/o pizza!!
Hillary and her people are liars and cheats, plain
and simple. We already know that, and we repeatedly see evidence of it.
And what the hell is Barbara Boxer doing in Nevada? Has she moved there? Does Nevada not have any Hillary people to represent her or is Boxer there because she's "supposedly" respected?
Harry Reid didn't even show up.
where haven't they cheated?
Without even trying I can think of these states where the vote has been tampered with: IO, AZ, NV, NY, CO This election has been so crooked, there is no way in hell they'll get party unity. #PUMA
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Don't forget Bill's shenanigans
In Minnesota when he went to the Bernie voting places and disrupted it so that many people weren't able to stay and vote.
Someone is trying to sue him.
The Clintons and the DNC are corrupt and to do this out in the open speaks volumes about the corruption of the Democratic Party.
I don't know how we can fix this but it can't stand.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
even better explanation tweet
And there's an asshole at top
saying Bernie's campaign stole Hillary's email list of delegates and sent emails telling Hillary delegates they didn't have to show up at the county level.
Probably a paid shill
Because that's what Shillary's people did in a state I can't recall. Only they handed out fliers. At a union hall? Someone help me out. . .
Some fliers listed time to vote after vote would have been over too.
That was Nevada
at the county convention level. It was the Las Vegas county, the most populous in the state.
this one?
link
(apologies, Im multitasking while trying to keep up with this nvdemconvention madness)
IT'S A PAID TROLL -- ONE MARKOS APPROVES
That's why IT'S POINTLESS TO VISIT THERE.
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Muerte al fascismo. Muerte a la tiranía. colapso total de los que promueven tampoco. A la pared con el unico porciento%
Just your basic Rovian ratfucking
from the Republican candidate. Nothing to see here, move along, it's just the way caucuses are.
I'm definitely done with what refers to itself as the "Democratic" party after the national convention. They aren't even *trying* to mimic a veneer of fairness any more- they are just going to fuck it all up in any way they can.
Have yourself a nice Pyrrhic election/coronation there, Hillary.
wow
They are exposing themselves for all to see.
We are on new territory where things are no longer done behind closed doors, in secret, with no witnesses. Now, there's Twitter. Now people record on their phones. This is what the revolution must do. Expose this corruption. We, the people, must not accept this. It must be brought to the consciousness of everyone. Spread the word.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
good to see you here RA ,An
good to see you here RA ,An were supposed to vote for her if she wins the nomination???? yeah right!!!
Did the pro-Hillary contingent miss the second round
because this last was always the coup d'etat? Is that too clever? To assume it would all be over by 5/14/2016 for Bernie, but no one remembered to change the script?
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
I was told that's not how democracy works
By the blowhards at top after I posted the first tweet in this diary. But I did get a few people who agreed with me.
One said if that's how it's supposed to work then he's moving to another country.
I'm not wasting any of my time with them.
The diary is about the naughty Bernie supporters and they need to go to bed. Or some shit like that.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
What a difference
I think the tweet should have been: See what good little puppets we are.
When one does not have to think for oneself, it is easy to sit quietly and accept whatever you are told.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
Name change time
Time for the Democratic Party to change its name. "Fuck Democracy" seems so much more appropriate for it.
"Please clap." -- Jeb Bush
Rumor has it that...
when it comes to fucking with democracy, the Democratic donkey is hung like a horse!
Our village and town are so small that we don't have a village idiot or a town drunk. Nope, we all take turns.
From the Convention
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
So much for a 'Democratic' party
What a joke they are!! Way to encourage Sanders people to vote for the $hillary.
Bunch of tossers.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
I don't think they believe they need Bernie supporters
It is the only explanation I can come up with...my brain is exploding!
Hillary doesn't need the base.
She has the George W. Bush supporters to fill the gap -- and Kissinger is the icing on the cake.
I think she had it planned this way all along. As long as she has 1/2 of the dems and 1/2 of the repugs, she wins the GE.
And the DNC doesn't give a rat's ass about progressives -- people who have ethics about little trifles like war, the prison industrial complex, healthcare, jobs, and hunger.
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when we are afraid of the light.
--Plato
From Ralston in NV - Live feed
Periscope dude doing a live feed inside: https://www.periscope.tv/FenyxFX/1YqxoOYpOzXxv
Grand Theft Election n/t
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Driving fast cars...
to steal votes from various precincts across Liberty City.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
It's all over Twitter. Including stuff from
@JordanChariton of the Young Turks, who is there covering it. Go there for good info.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
live periscope of NV state convention
https://www.periscope.tv/FenyxFX/1YqxoOYpOzXxv
Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.
Why Pyrrhic?
That implies "losing by winning". One still assumes (wrongly) that once H "wins", she "loses" by not having Progressive legislation pass Congress.
Not "losing" at all. She, and the rest of the D party hierarchy have spent the last 30+ years mastering geometry.
triangulation
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
Win the primary, lose the general
And it's looking increasingly likely. People are sick and tired of being lied to, deceived, cheated, manipulated, used and discarded - and they're not going to take it any longer.
If she lies, cheats and steals her way to the nomination, she will lose to the vulgarian who has been sneering about how the Empress is so nekkid her boobs and butt are hanging out. Because, despite the vulgarity of the comment, it's the truth.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Well.....
Win the primary, lose the general
May be what happens, but there's no reason not to surround the convention site with a few hundred thousand supporters.
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Muerte al fascismo. Muerte a la tiranía. colapso total de los que promueven tampoco. A la pared con el unico porciento%
from a dictionary
"A Pyrrhic victory is a victory that inflicts such a devastating toll on the victor that it is tantamount to defeat. Someone who wins a Pyrrhic victory has been victorious in some way. However, the heavy toll negates any sense of achievement or profit. Another term for this would be "hollow victory".
dfarrah
Pyrrhic if she loses the general
which is quite likely.
Euterpe2
And/or is indicted
which could bring on a Constitutional crisis, depending on when.
Euterpe2
I Really Doubt It
Wall St will have ordered Obama and Lynch to leave Hillary alone. Any indictment of their bought and paid for agent of national governmental control will be quashed. They are too close to achieving their goal to allow something so petty as exposing state secrets to hackers to interfere now.
Those who live by the Snark Fly by the Snark
edited mispellings
Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.
Just a question...
probably for the lawyer types here...
Could We the People create a class action suit against Hillary Clinton, the person, for *where is my list of the many, many reasons she deserves it*?
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
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