Time To Map Out Plan B. #BernieOrBust (Updated)
President Sanders is Plan A. I am not giving up on Bernie. Will vote for him next week here in CT.
But realistically, his chances are getting long, especially with the Clinton Crime Machine engineering the primaries and presumably the convention as well. 126,000 voters purged from the rolls in Brooklyn. Oh c'mon, it is no coincidence that Taint Follows Hellery where ever she goes. What other districts were engineered I wonder? But don't worry. Mayor de Blasio (a Clinton endorser) said there will be an "investigation". Holding my breath in 3.2.1...
Anyway, Bernie will have a tough time with any of these closed primaries. Independents can't vote. Independents are his real strength and it's 40% of US voters. Think about it. Bernie has about half of registered Dem voters. If you add Independents to that, Bernie supporters could crush either of the two Neo-liberal parties (Dems, Repubs) in the general election.
But Bernie will not run as an Independent. He said publicly that he will support the ultimate Dem nominee. And we know he is a man of his word. And I will never vote for Hellery.
So to finally destroy both of the Neo-liberal parties, the Revolution needs to prepare itself to walk away. The Green party is the obvious choice. But I'm open to other suggestions.
Forget Trump
I know some will say vote Trump. But he really is the sociopath that you see. And he could care less about the working class.
Read this (Vice 2014) before you mistakenly vote for Trump.
Should the Revolution walk away from the Dem Party after the convention? I know what my answer is.
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Update 2:10 PM
If your plan B is to vote Green if Bernie is not nominated, be aware that the Green party needs petition signatures to get on the ballot in the states below. This link has info on the petitions.
http://www.jill2016.com/ballotaccess?utm_campaign=ballot_vol&utm_medium=...
We are already on the ballot in these 21 states (including the District of Columbia):
AR, AZ, CA, CO, DC, FL, HI, LA, MA, MD, ME, MI, MS, NM, NY, OH, OR, SC, TX, WI, WV
We need your help collecting nomination signatures in the following states:
AK, AL, CT, DE, GA, IA, ID, IL, IN, KS, KY, MN, MO, MT, NC, ND, NE, NH, NJ, NV, OK, PA, RI, SD, TN, UT, VA, VT, WA, WY
H/t to Olinda for this info.
Comments
I hear you, thanks, I just tried to get an explanation
of why they don't come together and unite. I guess then it's some tactical calculating thinking rather than issue related differences or personality issues.
May be that will change one day?
https://www.euronews.com/live
That's great to hear that Greens are Open to Bernie.
Bernie is using the Dem election machine to run his campaign. It allows him to get his message out much more efficiently than if he ran as a third party candidate. It has built-in fundraising infrastructure, etc. That all helps build the Revolution.
He's walking a tightrope. Any tiny thing he does/says gets used against him. If he endorsed the Greens that is all you would hear about him from now til November. There's plenty of time after the convention to talk freely.
Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.
Oh, absolutely agreed....
with this much:
And there's a point where that isn't as important as advancing this movement. Now, I do think that Sanders should endorse the Dems unless--unless--he's asked by the Greens to become their standard bearer. But, that should only happen if it has a realistic chance of making the ballot in all fifty states on such short notice.
Beyond that, he needs to "strike while the iron is hot" in regard to discussion and continuing #NotMeUs and building consensus. He owes no one any real loyalty beyond that other than people who have truly supported him, IMO. Remember, he used the machine because he could. He's earned the right to do it, because he's given to that party--he's voted with Dems and caucused with Dems for years now. And until recently--before the words after his name said "Democratic Candidate for President"--his name read on the telly and newspapers and such as "Senator Bernie Sanders, I--VERMONT".
The I is for Independent, and that does not mean "Independent Party". He can do what he damned well pleases at this point and he has very, very little to lose, politically, at this point in his career. I hope like hell, if he can't manage to out-finesse the crooked machine that some really shitty "Democrats" built and wrest the nomination from that vile competitor of his, that he goes all in with the Greens. We have to have another party, and they do have an infrastructure in place already. It is long past time.
We need a NEW party...
A Progressive People's Party... We cannot fix the Democratic party... it is too damaged.
IF we could pull it together and create an alliance with all of the little parties... like the Greens, the Democratic Socialists, and all of the others PLUS attract the Independents....we might just really have something.
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Both main parties are dead in the water only being kept afloat
by money. A viable alternative is possible but it will take at least a decade.
"it will take at least a decade".
Well we better get started then.
Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.
I've started over here with Nuit Debout its different than
occupy more of an ideas mill, I think it has a good chance of becoming something very significant
don't have a decade....
Reminds of more and better - total bull shit. We have to look at who her strongest opponent is, threaten to join forces to take her out. Norquist knows the secret. You make them lose in the primary or in the general anyway you can. Trump is a tool albeit a not a first choice. Pragmatism not principle is the key here. What works!
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
I think it can come together out of necessity
faster than that. There's a lot of resolve that there's never been before. You'd be amazed how fast you can do something when you have a broad consensus going in.
"broad consensus" that is the key
Anything is possible, we landed a man on the moon with a computer that less power than today's smart phones. However, the key is to get people to agree and be on the same page of what is trying to be accomplished.
Do you want to make some noise and piss and moan about stuff or do you want to truly try to fix things? It will take some time and energy, but it can be done.
Not so sure of that....
not with the social networks and the enthusiasm of the young people... Look how quick we all rallied around Sanders.... less than a year, eh? If we lose this election we have FOUR years of work ahead of us but I really think it could be done.
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What we need is a new Constitution
And yes, a new Party to go with it.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
thanks, I felt this way since I grasped for the first time
what your constitution allows to happen to a supposed Democracy and what the electoral college is all about. That was around 2000. But I was not supposed to think that way.
May be one day it's accepted to see the US political system as what it is and come to the conclusion that a re-write of the constitution and the electoral college is needed.
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The Constitution is just fine....
it just needs some tweaking for the modern world.
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The 'Electoral College'
is not Fine. Obviously all the 3/5s crap needs to be gone. Our Bill of Rights is weak, and continually walked all over... yet corporations have all the rights they need (to avoid and responsibility for trashing our country, and world). Nope, it's far from Fine.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
What needs to happen:
Money--OUT of the process.
The Electoral College needs revamped as does the "primary" process
The Bill of Rights and the Constitution are just fine. The former needs to be respected if not enforced more firmly; the latter needs simply to reflect that CORPORATIONS ARE THINGS NOT PEOPLE.
That's really all, IMO--everything else rather flows from these points, doesn't it?
I think the 3/5s crap is already gone, unless you're not referring to slavery. There's an amendment somewhere that takes care of that bit (surely I'm missing something there, but I know you'll tell me what it is
)
And I'll get on my knees and pray We don't get fooled again
Music is a healthy, healing force...
FEEL THE BERN: "But such is the irresistible nature of truth, that all it asks, and all it wants, is the liberty of appearing." - Thomas Paine
"Here I Stand, I can do no other." - Attributed to Martin Luther, 1521
We need a new political system, not a new party.
A new party will just compete in a rigged, corrupt and totally inadequate system that does not represent democracy. It's time to completely revamp the notion that 330 million people can be represented by 535 politicians, no matter what party. It's time to seek real democracy.
Big Al,
what would that look like? I'm interested.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
If we really want democracy we'll have to move toward
a more inclusive, participatory system possibly the early Greek system or hybrids of direct democracy models. We could implement a national referendum system like we have in about half the states to allow the people to vote on whether to go to war, etc. We need more and something that can avoid rule by the rich.
The bottom line like I said above is we have an undemocratic system of 535 politicians (that number was capped in the early 1900's and never adjusted) supposedly representing 330 million people, that's never been democracy, it's always been an oligarchy, a small group of people making the decisions for everyone else.
The first step would be to ascertain what the people want, democracy or oligarchy. I believe we have to push that envelope.
I agree, Big Al.
How can we get that started?
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
The tough part.
Unfortunately people are so tied to the voting for politicians concept, it's been so ingrained in us like it's the lifeblood of democracy, that it's hard to get people to even consider it.
I've been waiting for it to be confirmed that it would be Trump vs Clinton to start testing the waters again. (Originally I though Bush vs. Clinton would be what we'd have). It appears now is the time to start pushing the idea. It could be a boycott of just the presidential race, it could be against both major political parties, or it could be against this system in general.
Me too.
Our system of "representation" is wholly unrepresentative. We need a complete rewrite. Unfortunately, we have to cooperate with an uneducated, bigoted, selfish, gun toting population to get it done. A significant part of the population is fine with oligarchy.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
I'm with RA,
what would you suggest?
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Yup. We can't just pay this lip service
it has to happen. It has to get underway, and it has to get underway SOON.
both of you, Ann and Martha, are asking Al an unfair
question.
In other countries, if the populace realized that their constitution is not protecting them from being abused and their democratic rights being violated, gather ALL of their WISE men and women, sit down for month and months and discuss what exactly has to be changed in the current constitution to get a better one. It's a huge brain-storming gathering going on for a long time til a new legal text would be drafted and then decided of how to vote for it and implement it.
Poor Al is just but one brain. I guess the question is not fair, or you yourself give an answer to your own question.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Poor Al has some great ideas.
I'm happy to have his brain guide me. I think he's talking lots of sense, right now.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
of course he does and consistantly so,
all I am saying is it's a bit easy to ask someone to come up with all the solutions in one paragraph comment. I didn't criticize Al's brain at all. Sorry for being misunderstood.
https://www.euronews.com/live
I was being snarky, mimi.
Apologies.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
no, my apologies, the snark language
is difficult for me to learn and understand.
https://www.euronews.com/live
heh
"Poor Al"????
Really?
ok, ok, I got it, you don't like me defending
"poor Al" from your questions. I let him fight you on his own.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Is that what you're doing?
"Defending" him?
From what? Questions?
I thought that's what I was doing, but I guess
I don't know what I am doing. Can we rest the case?
https://www.euronews.com/live
Yes, rest the case. I never took any of it
in other than a lighthearted manner. And I know when I bring up this idea it gets the blood flowing.
Moring mimi, hope you're doing well.
There are people involved in it now.
I think the best way is to just start pushing the idea/option and see where it takes us. If Bernie's out, we need to proceed to plan B and far as I can tell no one really knows what that is. A boycott, a partial boycott or a targeted boycott is one of the options.
Much luck to you
I'm sorry, but it just seems to me--and I seem to have some concurrence--that while the concept means well, there are simply too many people already reject this "system" as it is by not participating. You need something that stands out--and a "boycott" is not going to do that, it's going to blend right in.
We use boycotts to cause an issue to stand out, that's the
point.
The alternative is to keep participating in a rigged, corrupt and totally inadequate political system.
Um, you're missing the point by a country mile
altogether, Al. A boycott in this case isn't going to stand out anywhere. And good luck getting The Media on board. That's who you need. Trust me, the minute they start pumping out "Boycotts", you'll know it's fake as fuck. They WANT you to sit your ass at home.
Jeeeezus, that can't be any more obviously be the last thing any of us does. But of course, feel free to keep "getting the blood flowing" since you enjoy it so. Heavens, don't let little old me get in your way ;-D
Boycotts, lawsuits, and campaigns targeting the Saudis or Israel
certainly stand out.
We’ve all seen it — Obama promising to veto a bill allowing 9/11 lawsuits against the Saudis; or our congresscritters falling all over themselves to give Netanyahu standing ovation after standing ovation.
Nothing makes American establishment politicians react faster than the fear something might affect Saudi or Israeli interests and privileges. They definitely don’t represent us, their domestic constituents, nearly as well.
Large numbers of citizens uniting and acting in ways that discomfit the Saudis or Israel, and the establishment will pay attention. Guaranteed.
A boycott isn't an answer
That's a negative action. We need a positive action.... something which keeps the movement going forward.
My answer is upthread. Vote Green (which already has a mostly Bernie platform but apparently people don't know this) and depending on how many folks do that, either work to build the Green party for 2020 or float a new Dem name... I like Tulsi Gabbard.
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
I would love to see a coalition form under Working Families
Greens have too much negative history and the word Socialist still carries at least some negative connotation, but Working Families would be a great umbrella to bring everyone together. It's already somewhat established (and yet has so much room to grow), works with other progressive groups well, and it's very name reifies it's commitment to the common name (Like both the Greens and the Democratic Socialists!).
I'm definitely going to research how to start a local branch in CA (I should probably figure that out soon and then maybe be able to take advantage of some Bernie groups while they are still intact).
It's not about FIXING the democratic party,
it's about SEIZING the democratic party.
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The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Agreed for the most part...
Bernie has built up considerable political capital. I am not sure how much information the Sanders campaign has been able to accumulate on its own, outside of ActBlue and DNC database. Also not sure his willingness to break off at this point, but if he were to try and work from within the system, I think he should still for, his own OFA style database to build up our own system of funding progressive candidates to replace the entrenched elites.
A vote for Bernie does not necessarily equate to defection for Bernie. That being said, his support base is the future of this country and tends to be much more connected technologically. With people that have worked with him so far, we could probably get a coalition up and runing pretty quickly. I'd love to hear from DFA and WFP as to how successful they have been at expanding since joining up with Bernie. Bold new politicians would be able to tap into the populist enthusiasm and crowdfunding.
The first step lies in
refusing to fall for the "lesser of two evils" and "a vote for x is a vote for republicans" argument. We must also cease falling for the suggestion that the refusal to vote dem is a form of privilege or entitlement. We've been blackmailed this way far too long. Until we get over that abusive blackmail we can't build something else.
As disappointed as I am - its not quite time for Plan B yet
I was despondent last night, and have been thinking hard this morning.
But although NY was a big disappointment, its not so much because it had to be won, but because winning it would force the MSM to change the narrative.
But we've come this far without their help, so I don't see why now should be any different.
And don't forget, it is technically her political home state. And it is New York - a very finance-centric city.
My state comes up in less than a week. Of course all my evidence is anecdotal, but in talking to people canvassing and talking to other canvassers, far more people have said they are voting Bernie than Hillary.
And with her win in NY and the media trumpeting her inevitability more than ever, it could free up people who want to vote for Bernie but are scared for whatever reason that its not "pragmatic" so maybe they can vote their conscience.
I guess what I'm saying is, while a win in NY would have changed the conversation, it ain't over until its over. We have a bunch of states next week, and we should be focusing on those now.
Once the primary is decided, we can focus on a plan B - although I already know mine - I'll vote for the Greens if they are on my ballot, but I won't vote for any establishment Dem. I don't think I could ever vote for Trump, so it'll be whoever else is on the Presidential ballot.
I think a lot of people know their Plan B
and like I said, keep an eye on Dr. Stein's Twitter feed
Agreed. Plan B is only if Bernie doesn't get nominated
But I think it is worth kicking around ideas now so if/when the time comes, we are ready.
Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.
The bright side of
all of this is that we are beginning to see the extent of neoliberal power both with respect to its capture of BOTH dominant parties and with respect to the capture of the media. I've been aware of the functioning of ideology for decades, but it's never been this glaring or obvious. Sanders has done extraordinarily well and surprised everyone. That means there's a deep thirst for change and something different. There's an opportunity here. The key lies in Sanders supporters refusing the democratic party going into the future. Something new must be built.
I may change my party affilitation after June
Good comments, everyone!
Depending on what happens in June, I suppose I better look into changing my party affiliation to Indie from Democrat. Anyone else doing that? I'm in MI and I will look into it. I won't change yet. I plan on writing Bernie in or voting Green. There is no fucking way in hell that I will vote for HRC.
F*uck 'em!
Yes, I changed my party to Dem just so
I could vote for Bernie in the primary. Going back to independent right after that. In CT, it's an online form -- takes about 5 mins to complete.
Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.
Yes, I'm going Green.
It's sad... I registered Democratic in 1972 and proudly cast my first vote for George McGovern-- a great man who was cast aside by the party establishment. I was appalled by the party's nomination of Carter instead of Kennedy and Kerry instead of Dean. I despised Bill Clinton and almost voted for Perot. (I wish I had. Clinton was even worse than I thought he'd be.) I gagged when Pelosi said defending the Constitution would be a good idea if you could win and took impeachment for war crimes off the table. I went ballistic when Obama offered social security cuts up on a platter to Boehner. Still, I remained a Democrat. I even sent the jerks money. I thought there were some good Democrats. After watching the parade of prostitution in this primary, I know better. I wish I had the money I sent to them back. But this is it. I do not belong with these people.
Twain Disciple
I've changed
my affiliation to independent. It felt good.
I'm definitely out of the D party after this Primary.
Because fuck this shit!
I just can't be affiliated with them any longer, they are obviously not my party. Not that they give a rat's ass... but for my own peace of mind, I'll have to switch to Independent.
Word.
Peace of mind...I'm with you! They don't represent me, and haven't for a looooong time.
A bill is being introduced
in the Colorado legislature to dump the caucus system and move back to primaries (and open primaries, at that). When that happens, my membership in the Democratic party will end- there'll be no reason to stand up and be counted with them any more.
A sudden drop in their registered numbers might get their attention. Might not, too. I'm not really sure that I care much....
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't care
because the weaker the party is, the less chance they have of needing to deal with us pesky liberals and our demands for good legislation. They would rather have more reasons for why we can fight climate change, get good healthcare, reform the prison industry...etc then actually try and win all the down the ticket.
Thanks for that info!
I live in CO and the caucus made it obvious that we need to change. Hopefully the lame Republicans won't block the bill from being passed.
Boycott
I'm sure I'll have more to say on this but I think there should be a national boycott of the Presidential race, possibly of both major political parties. It can't come just by voting Green or writing in Sanders. It would have to be an organized, publicized boycott to protest the rigged and corrupt system.
Voting green will get us the same place we got from voting green in past elections. Nowhere.
Interesting idea, Big Al.
I would definitely boycott the POTUS line and vote downballot.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
roughly 50% of the population
boycotts every election. What has it gotten them?
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
This. Staying home
just encourages them. There needs to be an organized effort to vote *for* someone else outside the mainstream, not just to boycott and let the drooling herds of deadenders carry the day.
I could be on board with an organized boycott of the two
major political parties, although I prefer a boycott to change the system. The problem with voting third party is the system is inadequate even if we had third parties that could compete, which they can't. It's not democracy, it would still be oligarchy. So it depends on what you want.
But I'm not sure what you mean by "encourages them".
It might be different this time
if you have 75% boycotting. It would be interesting to find out what will get their attention.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Break the illusion that we're in a democracy, that's
the point. Only 37% of eligible voters voted in 2012, an all time low. They're having the same problems in other western countries and the ruling class is taking notice. The era of political representation is coming to a head.
I'm pretty sure Sanders already opened that barn door
horses are beating feet in droves, practically flying out of it. Particularly after yesterday's "vote" in New York...
That's why now, with Clinton vs. Trump,
is a perfect time to do something. Something different and bold.
I await specific ideas to this end
because I'm just not seeing "bold" here. Half the country hasn't voted in forever.
I see why it has to be organized, Big Al.
When only 37% voted in 2012 and it was not organized - no "real" message is being sent. Yes, it must be an organized approach.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Like I said, it has to be an organized, publicized
boycott with targets and goals, not an unorganized, unpublicized, unsure of the motives effort.
What has voting gotten us?
What have we got to lose?
One thing about not voting is in theory those not voting are not granting the politicians their consent to govern. Voting in this system is perpetuating it. It's an option that should be considered.
Money line, Big Al
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Some of this worth considering, but we don't have
the luxury of time on our side here anymore.
"Not Voting" got us into this mess. Boycotting the election isn't going to fix a damn thing. We need something else in the short term.
"Only 37% of eligible voters voted in 2012, an all time low."
Yep. If we can just get it down to 35....
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
I agree. Boycotts are NOT helpful
The oligarchs want non-participation because then one of the two wings of the Neo-liberal party (dems or repubs) will win.
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You say that as if the Green Party is already corrupted
we don't know that.
They've got an infrastructure. It can be built on.
Green infrastructure
My point exactly. Maybe we could talk to them?
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A boycott is silence.
It's too easy for a boycott of the election to be perceived to be just more of the usual apathy of low turnouts that have been the norm for decades. To make our voices heard is important, to be seen is important (else the media would not be trying to pretend we do not exist), or we will be ignored not just by the media but also by those potential allies in the populace that make a revolution or any significant popular change viable. Making that noise may come as protest votes or in some other noisier fashion, but visibility is vital.
Thanks, I couldn't find the words, quite...
Exactly - unless you could get basically EVERYONE not to vote
it would just be perceived as apathy and thus consent, and so an excuse for Establishment politicians to keep doing what they're doing, since the American public apparently has no problem with it, not even enough of a problem to get off their couch and vote - or at least that's how they would perceive it.
A huge jump in the votes for say, the Green party, however, would force them to open their eyes. Even if it was only 5% of the votes instead of 1% it would show that people aren't willing to keep sanctioning their behavior and they will consider any other viable option.
Like I said,
it can't be a silent boycott, you're right.
It would have to be organized, targeted, and vociferous. It would have to be made clear that it isn't apathy, but protest. Of course.
Then they win.
You can't win by abandoning the field of battle.
I strongly disagree that voting Green gets us the same place it has before. Before there weren't enough people fed up with the two parties to make it go anywhere. Now there are. I need to research this further, but I think a non-trivial chunk of Bernie supporters would push the Green party over various state threshholds and, much more urgently, be hard to hide.
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
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Why would the PTB give a fuck?
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Okay, that was very strange ...
... this comment was a reply to a comment that appears to have simply disappeared.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
I'm going Green.
Much as I hope Bernie will run Independent, I'm not holding my breath. There's a particular kind of graciousness that only seems to come about with Democratic politicians after a clearly rigged election. Saw it with Gore, Kerry, etc... I'm fairly certain we would have seen it with Obama, had he not convinced the PTB that he would play ball.
Not gonna kick at the football anymore. This was their last chance, and the Democratic Party can fuck RIGHT off.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Here is an explantion of the requirements to get
on the ballots of all 50 states, when running as an Independent.
https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_for_presidential_candidates
Bottom line, that date has passed for at least 41 of the states.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Keep an eye on Dr. Stein's Twitter feed
I hear it's kinda hopping this morning
I'm not so sure Bernie will commit to "Democratic graciousness"
He is trying to reform the Democratic Party but he may realize that's too hard and join the Greens and he could take a lot progressive Democrats with him.
Beware the bullshit factories.
How much longer is his Senate term, anyway?
I've lost track. It might depend on that, as well...
Bernie's senate term
He was re-elected in 2012.
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