Alpha's N.Y. Debate watchers live Blog

Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 7:56pm

Hi guys!

I am gonna be watching the debate and post comments and such on here and hope you join me.

If you are unable to watch it on TV CNN will be streaming it for free

I look forward to watching it with you all!

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 7:57pm

Debate is starting... Link to live feed is above.

Let me know if it didn't work, I will retry it.

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Submitted by Shahryar on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:02pm

thanks for dloing this again, link works great

Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 7:59pm

I hope Bernie Pulls no punches and calls her out on Fracking...

That's a big issue in NY my friends from up there tell me and one that is enormously unpopular...

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Submitted by boriscleto on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:05pm

She is running ads about how great she is on the environment

And how she supports communities that want to ban fracking.

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Submitted by Ravensword on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:16pm

Greenwashing.

She's just trying to wash away the corporate shit off her boots.

Submitted by Tall Bald and Ugly on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:04pm

She seems to be having her

She seems to be having her ass handed to her. And she WON't shut up.

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Submitted by mjsmeme on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:03pm

TYT live commentary

@https://www.tytnetwork.com/live/

Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:06pm

Thanks! I love their commentary!

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Submitted by Raggedy Ann on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:03pm

I cannot watch.

I'll follow along, here. I can't stand to hear her voice. I am grateful to you for being able to. Thank you.

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Submitted by boriscleto on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:06pm

You can't stand to hear her voice?

How could you be that misogynist?

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Submitted by Raggedy Ann on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:10pm

I don't know, but in this case

I must be.

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Submitted by dkmich on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:44pm

Another woman that can't stand her or her voice.

That gaping hole in her mouth needs a sock in it.

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Submitted by Winglioness on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 11:41pm

You are not alone. I can't

You are not alone. I can't stand her voice either.

Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:07pm

It is like nails on the chalkboard of my soul...

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Submitted by Raggedy Ann on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:11pm

Ok, that was just funny!

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Submitted by lunachickie on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:12pm

I have been overruled

from actually watching, because mr. luna says I yell at the TV too much

(so yes, I too will be hanging out here)

Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:03pm

The Attendee's seem to be very excited with Bernie's opener

Let's see if Clinton gets the same response.

She does have a significant following in NY, but Bernie IS NY so it could play a big factor.

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Submitted by magiamma on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:05pm

oh yeah!!!!!

ty very much

-go bernie.... watching on tyt muting hrc ag!!

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Submitted by magiamma on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:09pm

opps double post

please inform if anything 'important' is uttered by her royalness. (thought I would edit to say something profound)

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:06pm

Clinton Had a very warm reception from the crowd as well.

Didn't notice a large difference in crowd reaction levels, but Bernie seemed to get more of them but that could be due to Hillary's rapid fire speaking technique.

His applause levels at the very end seemed a bit more enthusiastic to me, but I could be biased.

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Submitted by hester on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:30pm

Bernie bias is the best. Thanks again for doing this.

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Submitted by Gerrit on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:07pm

Evening Alpha. Bernie is laying the wood right from the start!

W00t!

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Submitted by 2andfro on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:08pm

commentary from The Young Turks

https://www.tytnetwork.com/live/ [I canNOT listen to her anymore]

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Submitted by Gerrit on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:10pm

Me neither, 2&fro! :=) I've got TYT and when she starts I cut

the sound and wait until a Bernie picture appears again. Then it's on full blast.

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Submitted by Raggedy Ann on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:14pm

That's what I said, too, 2andfro.

It's like fingernails on chalkboard, as per Alphalop!

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:08pm

Bernie answered the first one and had great reactions.

Hillary is coming off a bit negative in tone, she sounds so severe.

Almost feels like she is talking down to the audience but that is probably my bias talking too, lol!

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Submitted by Not Henry Kissinger on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:12pm

The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:09pm

Oh damn! Gloves are off!

She went after him about judgement, and he is going straight to the facts, and they are damning....

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Submitted by Gerrit on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:12pm

Holy moly, she's still talking. TYT is still showing her picture

WTF?

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:10pm

Hillary gets booed for saying attacks on her are attacks on Pres

Obama...

That makes her sound weak...

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:11pm

New question about too big to fail banks.

Bernie is gonna crush her on this one...

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:12pm

LoL, She just insinuated that Bernie is finally joining with her

on fighting the big banks! LOL!

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Submitted by tapu dali on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:19pm

That's so typical of her:

Appropriate a Bernie position and then say "Glad you finally agree with me!"

Actually quite clever and low-info voter won't know, or care, who said it first.

As Nabokov said (in Pale Fire) the commentator has the last word. For Bernie to come out and splutter "That's what I said!!" sounds weak.

Regrettable, but true.

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Submitted by lunachickie on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:22pm

Nope

it doesn't sound weak at all if you already know that's what she does.

BTW, please allow me to fix that fer ya a wee bit:

MIS-appropriate a Bernie position and then say "Glad you finally agree with me!"

Lots and lots and lots of people get that about her already. Regrettable but true, to coin a phrase

Submitted by tapu dali on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:24pm

not sure where you're disagreeing ...?

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Submitted by lunachickie on Fri, 04/15/2016 - 7:48am

First line in the comment:

it doesn't sound weak at all if you already know that's what she does

Submitted by mimi on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:13pm

same game as before - Clinton can pounce on and on

Sanders gets no time to respond and is cut off by the next question.

Geez, I hope Sanders will get a tamper tantrum and stop her. She is just a disgusting debater. The "stronger" she plays the hawk and "experienced" politicians the less she is.

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Submitted by Gerrit on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:17pm

Agreed, mimi. I hope he shuts that crap down tonight.

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Submitted by tapu dali on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:21pm

He can't without sounding like a bitter old misogynist. nt

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Submitted by lunachickie on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:24pm

???

Sure he can.

Maybe have some wine or something? You sound quite tense

Submitted by Shahryar on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:13pm

what a liar!

a weasel. At least Obama was pleasant to listen to. I don't believe her for a second.

Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:14pm

Sanders asked about what to do when they break up banks.

Basically, he repeated the same points he has made but hasn't fully addressed the question yet,

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:15pm

Basically he said he wants to set limits and let

the banks figure out how to get into compliance on their own at first.

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Submitted by Gerrit on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:19pm

And he's right: it's not rocket science. Set a limit and say,

"Get under that by x date or go to jail."

And Jeebus Murphy she gets a LOT of air time.

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Submitted by lunachickie on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:18pm

WTH, why is she getting way more time?

OK, I'm taking your word for that! Probably a good thing I'm not actually tuned in...

Submitted by Raggedy Ann on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:21pm

I would be flipping out already.

I can't get that emotional. I'm already disgusted with what's being reported.

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Submitted by tapu dali on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:25pm

Ladies first! nt

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Submitted by mimi on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:28pm

no, bullies first /nt

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:20pm

"Secretary Clinton "Called them out"

"They must have been crushed, was that before or after they gave her huge sums of money"

Bernie is on fucking FIRE!

Moderate asks Clinton, "Why wont you release the speeches?"

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Submitted by Martha Pearce-Smith on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:21pm

ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION!!! - n/t

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Submitted by mjsmeme on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:21pm

transcripts!!!!

Submitted by mjsmeme on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:21pm

transcripts!!!!

Submitted by Martha Pearce-Smith on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:22pm

Thank you Dana Bash...

not letting go!

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:22pm

Hillary just tried to blame Sanders for Swaps and Derivitives

lol!

Lots of boo's, then mod dragged her back to answer the question about transcripts, she tried to redirect to Bernie's tax returns, and got more boo's without answering the question.

Moderator asks AGAIN about the transcripts, Hillary repeats, "When everybody does it, I will do it." Gets more boo's

Bernie said I will do it

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Submitted by Euterpe2 on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:21pm

Getting actual boos

Is that normal for ANY candidate in a debate?wg

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Submitted by Gerrit on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:22pm

Hooray for Dana Bash!

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Submitted by lunachickie on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:26pm

Holy sh*t

I never thought I'd see the day that I'd smile and rec such a comment, LOL!

Submitted by Gerrit on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:32pm

LOL! Luna, I couldn't believe it as I wrote it :=) I was about

to add, "When did she grow a...?" and then I remember I was talking about a lady. Good thing my grandma and the bottle of dish soap wasn't nearby!

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Submitted by mimi on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:29pm

she could do much more, Blitzer is a professional weasel /nt

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Submitted by Martha Pearce-Smith on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:23pm

BOOM

The mic drops

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Submitted by Gerrit on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:25pm

Blitzer is such a corporatist republican attack dog.

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Submitted by Raggedy Ann on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:26pm

Okay, good.

Thanks. You're all doing great! I'm trying to remain calm. RAndy will be home from work soon. We'll dine and I'll try to make it back.
Many thanks.

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Submitted by Gerrit on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:26pm

Nice Bernie, tell Blitzer to go to hell.

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:27pm

Blitzer is kind of a dick lately huh? He asks question about

Verizion CEO's comments about Bernie.

Bernie said CEO should start negotiating with his workers, calls out CEO for making 18 million while outsourcing jobs.

Wolf calls him back to the question, "How would you promote American Businesses" "Bernie said "There are MANY great American Businesses, Verizon just isn't one of them"

Wolf asks a 2nd question that sounds more like he is debating Bernie, lol!

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Submitted by Hastur on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:55pm

What do you mean,

"lately?"

OT, it's hard to tell, but . . . is that a dachshund in that life vest??

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Submitted by Shahryar on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:28pm

her cackle means she's caught

it's her way of pretending she's on top of things

Submitted by BrutallyHonest on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:41pm

Huge tell

The cackle is a huge tell that she is caught in a lie.

Submitted by randtntx on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:29pm

Sanders's answer to the Verizon question

by Wolf was fantastic.

Submitted by Gerrit on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:29pm

Rocking Bernie now!!! Blitzer turns tail :=) Coward likes to

take cheap shots, but runs from truth like a scalded cat.

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:29pm

Hillary now claims ownership of Fight for 15... WTF???

Has she any shame at all?

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Submitted by hester on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:39pm

shame? Hillary? surely you jest... impossible. She is

shameless. Will say or do anything. No depth is too deep to stoop to.

Chris Hitchens really vilified her:

"Mrs. Clinton has the most unappetizing combination of qualities to be met in many days’ march: she is a tyrant and a bully when she can dare to be, and an ingratiating populist when that will serve. She will sometimes appear in the guise of a “strong woman” and sometimes in the softer garb of a winsome and vulnerable female. She is entirely un-self-critical and quite devoid of reflective capacity, and has never found that any of her numerous misfortunes or embarrassments are her own fault, because the fault invariably lies with others. And, speaking of where things lie, she can in a close contest keep up with her husband for mendacity. Like him, she is not just a liar but a lie; a phony construct of shreds and patches and hysterical, self pitying demagogic improvisations."

bolding mine

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Submitted by Mark from Queens on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 11:37pm

Hitchens really nails HRC with that quote/NY feelin' the Bern

Thanks for dredging that one out. What a spectacular writer he was.

She really embodies everything I loathe about the crony capitalist/consumer-addled society of America: a pandering, mean-spirited, self-serving phony full of hollow platitudes and a transparent contempt for working people and liberal socialist ideas.

Just came back from a room full of about 100 Bernie supporters/volunteers in my neighborhood. Great energy in the room, mostly 20's and 30's. People have been canvassing, making calls. I canvassed today and talked to 3 people on one city block, ALL for Sanders, not one Clinton. Finished the night planting lawn signs up and down the Grand Central Parkway for morning rush hour. Will do some more of both this weekend.

I really hope we New Yorkers deliver her a fatal blow. I think we will.

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Submitted by Shahryar on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:30pm

1990s...I thought she wasn't President then?

she gets credit for anything that happened then? But didn't do any of the bad things?

Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:31pm

Hillary getting booed for overtalking sanders...

She sounded like she was losing it!

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:32pm

She claimed, "I have said from the very beginning I supported

the fight for 15..." Clinton says. Crowd sounds stunned, lol!

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Submitted by lunachickie on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:34pm

Total liar

there, for sure. What complete bullshit...

Submitted by mjsmeme on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:32pm

Liar liar liar name dropper liar

Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:33pm

I never saw her get as many boo's in one debate

Bernie nails her, "How do claim to support fight for 15 when you propose 12"

Drop mic....

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Submitted by mimi on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:34pm

yeah, Bernie is now mocking Hillary and she deserves it

Hillary is screaming him down. BullyHilly. She is now lying about her support for the 15 dollars from the beginning. she didn't. she wanted incremental steps over a long time period.

Someone has to have the guts to mock her. Ok, Bernie tries.

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Submitted by Gerrit on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:35pm

Now Blitznutz is trying to set up a trap for Bernie on guns.

"with smile of satisfaction" G turns off the sound.

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Submitted by lunachickie on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:35pm

Will this be the night

Bernie gives her just enough rope to hang herself?

Lordy, I hope so

Submitted by tapu dali on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:27pm

Ya think?

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:35pm

Ugh, her cadence is so damn annoying when she is speaking

a pre-prepared response.

It is completely different then her off the cuff comments when she has to speak on the fly.

She is trying her hardest to turn Sanders into a Pro Gun Nutjub...

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Submitted by UntimelyRippd on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:41pm

uh ... is there some other kind of prepared?

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Submitted by Raggedy Ann on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:39pm

She IS losing it!

You're witnessing her meltdown. Wonder if she'll gather herself. It happens to men, too, so just sayin'.

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Submitted by lunachickie on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:38pm

pleasepleasepleaseplease

let this be the night she loses her shit in DeanScream-like proportion, without the media having to manipulate the hell out of the playback....

Submitted by Gerrit on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:40pm

Now that would be karma :=)

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Submitted by Gerrit on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:40pm

Agreed; she's been losing it since a few days bf WI; she can

feel it slipping away again and it is eating her alive. Full meltdowns will be just around the corner if Bernie sneaks over the NY wall with a point or so. Say hi to Cuz R.Andy for me!

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Submitted by magiamma on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 8:36pm