How on earth did this arshole ever become president

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/children-were-incinerated-ash-livid-...

and a shout out goes to arsehole Barry who picked him first as his VP then
cleared the path for this travesty to happen

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ggersh's picture

ladies and gents, your govt at work

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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@ggersh

Not that it gives me any pleasure to say so. There are still over 800 missing, and everything has come to a screeching halt for his goddamned photo op. Betcha a beer that there was at least one prepubescent girl for him to sniff among the "selected residents". I hope the people of Maui truly let him have it, if they got the chance.

Go home, Joe. They don't need your pandering.

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Twice bitten, permanently shy.

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@usefewersyllables @usefewersyllables and I'm a gambler but that bet isn't worth it without
great odds.

Joe fell asleep so maybe he wasn't there at all

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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It is certain and fully documented that the Democratic Party primaries were rigged seventeen ways to Sunday, to make sure that Bidump and no one else would be nominated. The Lapdog Media conspired to encourage this result, cover up any and all reasons why he should not be nominated/elected, and deceive the public about just how increasingly incompetent Bidump really was.

As for the general election, it was rife with anomalies...but anomalies have become the "New Normal", so much so that no one can state with absolute assurance that there was or was not electoral interference by interested parties.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

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@TheOtherMaven I thought it was only 6 ways to Sunday

Maybe the "anomalies" was Covid + mail in voting, where there is
absolutely no way of proving that those votes were on the up and up???

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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@ggersh

Maybe the "anomalies" was Covid + mail in voting, where there is
absolutely no way of proving that those votes were on the up and up

We've had mail in voting for ages and there has never previously been a concern for proving that the votes were on the up and up. (There's pretty much no concern for proving all voting booth votes are on the up and up either.) That is largely a red herring. BUT, the volume of mail in voting was anolamous and immediately triggered the "stop the steal" campaign which, initially, was specifically about mail in voting. Why.

Over the decades the GOP followed a strategy of winning local offices allowing them to control voting access and using that power to disenfranchise as many as possible of each of the following categories: people of color, college students, aged, Indians, poor. Their baseline gimmick was to limit the number of polling places and the hours they were open. Over the years it got to the point that very large numbers of each of those categories were prevented from voting because access to polling places was so restricted in areas where they were concentrated. Wide spread, increased use of mail-in voting seriously reduced the effectiveness of that strategy, the GOP even saw it coming and started fighting against mail in voting well in advance of the election.

It was never about whether those votes were "on the up and up", it was about the fact that THOSE people got to vote, they weren't supposed to be able to.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

@enhydra lutris
2020 was the one presidential election in living memory with the least amount of election fraud in most states. (Miami-Dade was so off that there had to have been more fraud.) A shame that the choice was limited to two incompetent and repulsive characters.

On the plus side, the shape of Georgia's electorate is now known. More like Wisconsin than Missouri.

Had Covid hit in 1999 instead of 2019, Gore would have easily won Florida and possibly another state of two. Wish I was as confident that Gore wouldn't have been Clinton's third term, but perhaps it would have been better to get it over and done with instead delaying that for eight years.

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@enhydra lutris why does one party use the gimmick of restricting votes
while the others opts for mailin ballots which are pretty much
impossible to verify. Why not just do paper ballots and let
independent agencies do the tallying? Neither party wants an
actual fair election otherwise they'd fix the problem concerning
elections, no.

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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@ggersh

....that serves the same purpose of a "shell-corporation," then it is easy to understand whom the output serves. The shell-Democracy operates under an array hypocritical laws, with a notorious lack of consistent rules, dedicated to the obscuring of data, systematically maintaining a lack of accountabilty, and above all, operating within a total absence of constitutional guidelines.

The United States is the Cayman Islands of global elections.

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@Pluto's Republic

The United States is the Cayman Islands of global elections.

Can we add "coups" to that.....rhetorical

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

@ggersh
to verify, but it relies on the principle that voter fraud is so limited that it doesn't change outcomes. After several election cycles, Oregon is satisfied that 100% mail-in works. The downside is that it eliminates the community interaction that was traditionally a component of voting.

Restricted mail-in voting has long been a GOP election trick. Increases participation among old and conservative voters. Particularly among those in old age homes that GOP workers can "help" complete their ballots.

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@Marie1

100% mail-in, plus the termination of the caucus system to allow open primaries, has been a huge boon for the state in terms of voter count. Turnout has been improved a bit, despite the lack of worthwhile candidates the last few cycles.

Of course, the primaries are still run by the parties, so they are still as easily mechanicked as the caucus results used to be. But they do use the same machines and counting mechanism- there's just no guarantee that the number reported by the machine is the number that actually gets to the SoS office for tabulation. I'm sure that they get "adjusted" as necessary, just as before...

And that makes it hard to believe that the results in the general are somehow "more accurate". Both parties have done a lot to destroy belief in the system, and discourage people from wasting their time on this whole voting thing anymore. If they didn't mail me my ballot, I sure as hell wouldn't go stand in line to do it.

Now if they'd just make the return envelope postpaid. I drive right by a county dropbox most days, so I don't have to pony up the cost of a stamp. But I'm sure that there are people who just pitch the whole wad in the trash upon receipt, for that reason alone.The cost of a stamp may not be much of a poll tax, but it is still a poll tax...

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Twice bitten, permanently shy.

@usefewersyllables

Mail in ballots cost so much less that opening a gazillion polling sites that officials should have redeployed those costs to prepaid envelopes. Cheap elections give us cheap government and that's acceptable to the people and favored by tptb.

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@Marie1 when it comes to politics in this country?

Maybe the mail in ballots are how they help keep us divided?
No interaction, no voting booth's, no community.

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

@ggersh
if one bothers to dig below the surface. We are so accustomed to politicians, churches, and corporations exploiting emotions, prejudices, etc for their own gain that principles don't get expressed. "Social media" has only made this much worse.

Still the vast majority honor honesty, fairness, fair dealing, responsibility, and compassion, and will listen when a person calming explains how our principles figure into public policies.

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@Marie1 not having "principles". Most ordinary citizens have
more principle in their pinkies then all politicians in their entire
body...

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

@ggersh
we agree. Several other sectors of the US body politic lack principles as well. Sales, Wall St, etc. Problem for ordinary people is that those without principles figure heavily in what we see/hear. The so-called influencers are soul suckers.

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@Marie1 which where I live consists of waiting in line to be screamed at and insulted by election workers who seem to have saved up every last tiny resentment since childhood to be taken out on hapless voters.

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@ggersh

ballots need some sort of special verification process. Long before covid I was permanent absentee, lots of Californians were. My ballot package came in the mail, just like the official information pamphlets and sample ballot, etc. I filled it out, signed it and took it to an official drop box, which was collected and I was notified that my ballot had been received. Meanwhile, in some other states, folks in pick-ups were throwing official ballot boxes from official polling places into the rivers and dumps. It all depends upon the integrity of those who collect and count.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

@TheOtherMaven
Democratic Party officials a break -- they learned from and improved upon the primary election fixes they employed in 2016.

OTOH, Biden polled at the top of the heap from early in the election cycle and only dropped in the first three states within a few days of the election. States where more voters had more opportunity to see candidates with less campaign, Party, and MSM filters. Joe flopped and should have been out at that point, but the MSM hype over the results left the Party with Mayo Pete who couldn't go the distance. Had the 2016 Bernie been running in 2020, he would have been far less stoppable. Who the hell were the Mayo Pete voters?

2020 was like a mirror image of the 1976 Democratic primary. The MSM hype out of Iowa was Carter who lost to "undecided" and did not have DEM Party support.

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@Marie1 @Marie1 And Maybe McKinsey HQ/subsidiaries voted for Pete? Smile

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

@ggersh
for consideration by me. Not that vaulting from being the mayor of a small/mid-sized city to POTUS should ever be considered.

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Hey gg,

Mostly we have been getting who we have been getting due to a rigged system, the duopoly. These were the choices the people were offered. Besides the rigged system...

We got Biden due to how bad Trump was. We got Trump due to how bad Obama was. We got Obama due to how bad Bush/Cheney was. {note G.W. Bush got the first black President elected} We got Bush/Cheney due to how bad Clinton was. We got Clinton due to how bad H.W. Bush was. and so on, rinse and repeat...

We did not get the elected officials we deserve. There were none of those offered.

Certainly Obama is one of the biggest reasons we got Joe Biden. He worked overtime two super Tuesdays in a row to make sure he killed Bernie Sanders momentum and run. Bet he was paid well for it too. Hope he is proud of how he put America first and launched us forward to solving the problems of our new modern collapsing society, ecosystems, and world.

F'em all and have a good one anyway, despite them!

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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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both - Albert Einstein

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Yep, fuck em all and have a good one, despite them!!

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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@humphrey

One can easily be mistaken for the other.

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@Pluto's Republic

But that is only my opinion.

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sorry, wish I had time to add the link. The Duran recently had Barnes on to discuss all of the Trump stuff.
I have always assumed that Trump was mostly a sore or reluctant loser. Assumed there wasn't much real evidence that he got cheated. But Barnes laid out a very strong case that the steal was real.
Maybe someone can find that and post the link? Well worth listening to if for people who are open minded enough to hear it.
Barnes really gets into the weeds of legal issues.

Back to add the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfseib5n3Ww
The Duran, "Biden Scandals and Trump Indictments"
I am only half way thru, but excellent info.

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the POTUS, VP and any other high level politician showing up after a disaster. They get in the way and use up too much space and attention that is needed for emergency response workers and equipment. If those politicians, from POTUS on down have done their jobs properly within the current knowledge of best practices, victims would appreciate that they were getting the best possible care.

On Saturday I watched the LA live stream wrt Hurricane Hilary. Every speaker detailed what his/her Office/agency/department had done, was doing, the projected risks, and what the public needed to know and do. SoCal was prepared for the worst and fortunately got the best. No public anger that all were over-prepared. I would give all of them high marks, particularly Mayor Karen Bass, LAUSD Superintendent, and Governor Newsom, and I am not an easy sell.

(CA emergency response mutual aid workers have been deployed to HI.)

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appropriate big for a presidential one.

I post this for a friend.

Sorry, I have so many question, and don't post them anymore here. That is a sad development, imho.

Question: I see overwhelming images from Greece wildfires. And I miss the Duran posts. Anyone knows if they are alright?

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@mimi Here is a link to the most recent Duran... firstly about Trump indictments.
The recent Duran.
they seem to be fine.

Hope you are well. Very hot here this week. In two days we should get thunderstorms and significant cooling. Before they arrive very hot and higher humidity.

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@Dawn's Meta

I haven't seen you here in awhile, but maybe I've been in the wrong places.

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@Pluto's Republic wrong places. I've been fortunate to be able to read this wonderful blog in the midst of all the cray cray around us. Good to see you.

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@Dawn's Meta all this stuff that is necessary to dance on blogs etc.

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@mimi than most of the world.

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A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit. Allegedly Greek, but more possibly fairly modern quote.

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and a shout out goes to arsehole Barry who picked him first as his VP then
cleared the path for this travesty to happen

Obama's choice of Biden demonstrated decent analytical skills on his part. 1) It muted the criticism that Obama was too green (a ploy used by many presidential candidates in his VP choice) 2) Couldn't be dismissed as nothing other than adding a state to the ticket (Biden added no additional state or voter segment) 3) Publicly, he'd be a good team player (privately dismissed as long as he didn't know that was happening 4) Kept the Clintons onside because Biden would be too old to run in 2016.

Had Obama been a good enough and independent enough POTUS in his first three years, he could have dumped Biden in 2012. As it was, he was only the less drama Clinton 2.0. A seat warmer for the real Clinton 2.0 in 2016. Instead he gave Biden some real power in Ukraine; not that the Ukie-Nazis weren't already firmly established in the administration, but Obama didn't want that crap on his suits.

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