War propaganda is starting to meet reality
WaPo’s Glimpse of the Battlefield
Contrary to widespread triumphant Western narratives, this reporting describes Ukrainian troops surviving on one potato per day and deserting their posts.
The Washington Post has published an acknowledgement that Ukraine’s war against Russia has not been nearly the cakewalk that much of the public has been led to believe.
In “Ukrainian volunteer fighters in the east feel abandoned,” WaPo reports that contrary to the triumphant narratives the Western world is being spoon fed, many troops in eastern Ukraine have been surviving on one potato per day and deserting their posts because they feel their leaders have turned their backs on them and they’re being sent to certain death.
“Stuck in their trenches, the Ukrainian volunteers lived off a potato per day as Russian forces pounded them with artillery and Grad rockets on a key eastern front line. Outnumbered, untrained and clutching only light weapons, the men prayed for the barrage to end,” The Washington Post reports, citing multiple named sources.
“Ukrainian leaders have projected and nurtured a public image of military invulnerability — of their volunteer and professional forces triumphantly standing up to the Russian onslaught,” the article reads.
“But the experience of Lapko and his group of volunteers offers a rare and more realistic portrait of the conflict and Ukraine’s struggle to halt the Russian advance in parts of Donbas. Ukraine, like Russia, has provided scant information about deaths, injuries or losses of military equipment. But after three months of war, this company of 120 men is down to 54 because of deaths, injuries and desertions.”
WaPo reports that volunteer troops in that part of the country “quickly found themselves in the crosshairs of war, feeling abandoned by their military superiors and struggling to survive.”
“We are being sent to certain death,” said one volunteer. “We are not alone like this, we are many.”
“Hours after The Post interviewed Lapko and Khrus, members of Ukraine’s military security service arrived at their hotel and detained some of their men, accusing them of desertion,” WaPo reports. “The men contend that they were the ones who were deserted.”
Some commentators have remarked on how, at long last, we’re seeing some realistic coverage of this war in the mainstream press.
"both men spoke to The Washington Post on the record, knowing they could face a court-martial and time in military prison...Hours after The Post interviewed Lapko and Khrus, members of Ukraine’s military security service arrived at their hotel and detained some of their men..."
— Mark Ames (@MarkAmesExiled) May 26, 2022
This might be the first article in a mainstream publication that punctures the PR spin and secrecy of the foreign military that the US is subsidizing. Two commanders were arrested after they spoke to the Washington Post, painting an extremely grim picture https://t.co/Sn4GQPuLP9 pic.twitter.com/j2axyZUkhq
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) May 26, 2022
This is indeed a major break from standard mainstream reporting on this conflict, which is normally more in line with this recent Newsweek article, headlined “Putin’s Elite Soldiers Getting Wiped Out as Russia Makes Mistakes—U.K.,” sourced entirely in unevidenced claims by the British government and the military industrial complex-funded neocon think tank Institute for the Study of War.
So anyway, there it is. That’s the reality on the front lines of this conflict that Westerners have been cheering on from their comfortable homes while calling anyone who advocates a negotiated peace settlement a Putin apologist and a Kremlin troll.
These big brave sofa warriors have been on social media demanding that Ukrainians keep fighting in this way until they’ve secured total victory over Russia and reclaimed Crimea and the Donbas, tweeting “Slava Ukraini” with their little blue-and-yellow flag emojis during the commercial breaks of their favorite TV show in between mouthfuls of Funyuns.
Westerners would be a lot less cavalier about demanding a foreign population keep fighting until total victory if they truly understood the horrors of war. Unfortunately, there’s a propaganda machine of unprecedented sophistication that has spent generations preventing them from obtaining that very understanding.
That’s why they’re so happy to throw endless Ukrainian lives into the gears of the imperial war machine, and that’s why the WaPo article we are discussing here is receiving very little mainstream attention online as of this writing. It will be dismissed and ignored by empire managers and their brainwashed flock with a “Hmm, you just can’t hire good cannon fodder these days.”
There’s no real reckoning with exactly what’s happening and exactly what these people are being called on to put themselves through. In the children’s crayon drawing version of this war that lives in the heads of Western so-called centrists, this is a team of heroic Good Guys righteously beating the tar out of hordes of Bad Guys because that’s what happens in the movies and on TV.
But this is not the movies, and this is not TV. People are dying in a U.S. proxy war that was deliberately provoked by the U.S.-centralized empire, and behind all the narratives and spin they are ultimately doing so for nothing more noble than the agenda to secure U.S. unipolar hegemony.
Many of the blue-and-yellow flag wavers are well-intentioned, and really do think they are advocating for Ukrainian freedom and sovereignty. But in reality, they’ve been cheering for Ukrainian subservience and enslavement to the empire, Ukrainian death, Ukrainian suffering and the continuation of a dangerous proxy war between nuclear superpowers that threatens the life of everyone on earth.
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“Donbass did not join with the revolutionary gov't that conducted the coup of 2014. Ukraine had massed this enormous army to attack Donbass. Russia was forced to go in to preempt that planned attack by Ukraine. ” — Col. Richard Blackpic.twitter.com/KZbLbmgFAA
— pocalypsis pocalypseos (@apocalypseos) April 28, 2022
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Interesting
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/05/29/kissinger-zelensky-davos-and-th...
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
I didn't appreciate the writer
But the rest of it was spot on.
If anyone can speak to the reality of war, it is a war veteran.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Agreed
Lots of homophobia in the essay, but I think the rest was good. Russia could bring the world to its knees if they wanted to, but they are still fulfilling their contracts which shows that they are the adults in this conflict.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
That...
would be nice.
It seems that the Ukraine leadership (Zelensky or ??) have been channelling Hitler's Eastern Front 'no retreat, stand and fight to the last man' approach - sensible retreats off the table - with about as much success.
Good to know
some truth is being reported.
None too late.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Propaganda is only effective when it contains
a modicum of truth. Recently, the MSM Ukraine coverage has approached a level of absurdity not seen since Baghdad Bob (aka "Comical Ali") during our 2003 invasion of Iraq.
With the imminent collapse of the Ukrainian Army in the eastern areas, the truth incongruity level needs to be dialed back a bit. Otherwise, even our most credulous consumers of MSM propaganda will clearly see the “man behind the curtain” and the raging stream of blatant lies we are being fed.
I expect these small cracks in our propaganda wall will be patched up shortly and that our regularly scheduled diet of government disinformation will resume shortly. Don’t worry, this disruption is not an ‘awakening’. It’s just a temporary aberration.
“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024
Here’s a video with a fellow with a fearless BS detector
and a wry sense of humor. YMMV, but I find his irreverence and panache strangely refreshing.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRYxJ5KIhGQ]
“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024
minor quibble
From the beginning of the RF SMO, the MSM has been echoing Baghdad Bob. Daily Mail coverage, based on the headlines as I don't bother reading DM for information, has had Putin dying, the Russian military collapsing due to deaths/injuries and equipment losses, and mega-heroism on the part of Zelensky and Ukie forces.
I appreciate your perspective and knowledge
As a global concept of a singular structure (meaning universal compliance), the actuality is probably doomed. That no independent division of character and government prevails seems inconceivable.
I can’t imagine that support of Zelensky’s and Azov’s ambitions aren’t dropping by both the soldiers and the public. They must be questioning their future.
I think (and hope) the american narrative is collapsing, or at least being questioned.
"Awareness is spreading like wildfire and the panic of the elite increases as their narrative crumbles and people become more and more immune to the propaganda."
Don’t miss the last line under ‘notes’, at the bottom of this article.
https://geopolitics.co/2022/02/22/world-economic-forums-young-global-lea...
Russia, China, Iran, Syria, North Korea, Cuba
Venezuela, Nicaragua, etc
You know something is wrong with the empire when we have so many enemies that have never attacked us.
A decent article from
another former senior government official that was instrumental in championing very bad USG policies:
Perpetual Debt, Perpetual War, David Stockman. (For those that don't know, Stockman was Reagan's OMB Director. One of the architects of "Reaganomics" that led to the current non-tax and spend ethos in DC. And for which Stockmman takes no responsibility and only criticizes the deficits and ever increasing national debt. FYI - I've loathed Stockman since 1981. He was also a Peter Peterson guy, another fiscal evil-doer.)
The National Debt when Reagan took office was just under a trillion dollars and just under three trillion eight years later. I include the above paragraph to merely set the stage for Stockman's general lament but no need to read the rest of that part.
The rest of the article is worth reading.
Interesting chameleon
I didn’t know that about Stockman. Paul Craig Roberts is kinda the same way. But bingo on this:
They’ve created a false character and most people don’t know that he was elected to stop the war on the Donbas. Or that The vote to go with Russia in Crimea was witnessed by the people who watch to make sure that votes are valid and besides Russia’s military was already there.
But most of the Trump deranged people don’t know that. And of course that’s one reason why shitlibs et all hate Putin. They think that he robbed HerHeinous of her coronation when actually it was a rejection of Obama and his betrayal of his voters. It seems that more news sites are trying to let people know that Ukraine will not win this conflict.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/ukraine-arty.html#more
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
More
Not one word from Pelosi on how they were going to pay for the $40 billion being sent to Ukraine like she insists be done for any money spent on we the people. And it’s funny how they forget what Obama said about Ukraine. "It’s no concern to our national security."
Bingo!
Congress votes for higher military budgets because they know that millions of the billions will funnel back to them as campaign donations. How much of the money will be ciphered off into their bank accounts is unknown, but you can bet your patootie that they are doing it.
I posted an article on Zelensky's backer and the massive corruption in Ukraine in Saturday’s OT that is worth a read if interested.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
I chose to skip that section
because a pro-war Congress is a long-standing GOP objective. Recall that Reaganomics was about cutting taxes on the wealthy and corporations, increasing the “defense” budget, cutting entitlements for ordinary people, cutting public investment spending (education, roads, bridges, etc.) and killing off unions. Republicans have been bashing the so-called “anti-war left” since it emerged during the Vietnam War and team Reagan got the ball rolling on killing that off as well.
Thus, I don't want to hear any whining by Republicans about the absence of an “anti-war left.” They have no standing to make such criticisms. And there are plenty of decent people with standing to listen to. (Sort of like why I dismiss anything Kissinger may say even if I agree with it.)
As far as Congress not having seen nor debated where the money for the Ukie-Nazis would come from and go to, same thing was true for Reagan's SDI and the Bushes iraq adventures. Other than the GW Bush team claiming that it would only cost $20 to $40 billion and be paid for by Iraq's oil. Totally preposterous to any rational and informed American. (My back of the envelope calculation was minimum $150 billion if there was an exit strategy within three months. Two months in, it was clear that no exit strategy existed, and therefore, the costs would skyrocket.)
I did debate posting this article, but went with it because supporting the Ukie-Nazis is more overwhelming than we've seen since the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution and it's dividing long-held partisan positions.
Then and today there are few sane and rational voices in Congress. (The Democratic split on the IWR was a minority opposed in the Senate but a majority opposed in the House. So, Congress has devolved in the past twenty years.)
Doncha know war is good for the economy?
It is bad for life on earth, societies, people in general, the environment, mental stability and
critters, but hey, congress goes where the money flows!
Apparently, it has become undemocratic to oppose war.
As good as digging holes and
filling them back up funded by deficit spending. Although the hole digging casualties are much lower; so, that would be the better option.