Questions?
Submitted by janis b on Wed, 02/02/2022 - 2:56am
I find it challenging at this time to accept being assigned a role, either as supporting actor or outcast.
What is so intimidating about adopting an independent and personal strategy that refuses sides? Are we hardwired to choose sides when in reality there are so many facets?
No matter what science, or paradox, (or combination thereof) we choose to live in, there’s always something inscrutable and unfathomable, so why the drive to define ourselves so narrowly?
Listening to Leonard is comforting ...
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I’m posting shortly before bedtime, and I look forward to reading comments and responding tomorrow evening.
Cheers everyone
Comments
The narrowing of roles is another method
of constraining free thought. Like you, I feel no need to be right or left, red or blue, vax or anti,
liberal or conservative. These are just labels. The reasoned and matured substance of my beliefs has very little to do with this drama being played out on the world stage. Can't relate to the hate.
Thanks Janis!
Hi Q
Thank you for being you, as you always are. Your integrity shines brightly.
It is human nature to be tribal...
However, we don't have to accept TPTB definition of the tribes/sides/community which we belong.
I find it helpful to deal with issues rather than sides. My long struggle against war has supporters on both sides of the fringe, but not either side of the mainstream. I'm vaxed, but am against mandates...so labeled anti-vax. Our leaders are part of the "Great Reset" agenda...the five eyes for sure.
My hope is the Canadian truckers nip the reset, but it is well underway.
My thought is "be yourself". Gather the best data you can and make your own decisions. Questioning is one way to gather data. Don't worry about groups, focus on issues. There is no one group that sees everything like you.
Keep good heart and enjoy your beautiful country!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Hi Lookout
"Be yourself" is something I aspire to. It takes practice as we all know.
I am eternally grateful to live in this flawed but largely wonderful country.
Thanks for the wish
Ideas and Issues. Policies. Not Personalities.
Good Morning janis b. My plan is generally to learn as much as possible about an issue and then figure out what I believe. This can take a long time and lots of reading and listening.
The results do not form any coherent pattern of tribal associations.
For example, my Second Amendment views are closer to Middle America than NYC. I keep my mouth shut when my neighbors say what they think about guns.
The current NYC campaign of our New Mayor who is Michael Bloomberg redux, involves gun control, and will fail as completely as Bloomberg's national push did years ago.
Of course, that's the plan.
Put energy into a failing enterprise rather than focus on anything that can actually help the People of the City of New York.
Hey, let's talk about Whoopi Goldberg and Joni Mitchell. Barf.
NYCVG
Hi NYCVG
Whoopie was hugely disappointing to me. When I first saw her on the view while visiting my mom I thought “really”, is this the same person I remember and enjoyed at a certain time …
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Listening again, it is especially astonishing, almost as if was a self-fulfilling prophecy. Weird.
The conscious evolution of the human mind
...is not a passive endeavor. Breakthrough thinking and intuitive skills require discipline and attention. Certain customs that are considered 'natural' social behaviors — which are often referred to as 'human nature' — can damage enlightened mental processes and block the path to wisdom. Your question resonates with me.
Team sports in all forms is one of those polarizing indulgences that degrade the human mind and undermine a functional society. Every aspect of this unhealthy mental state results in mediocrity and dystopia. Its long term effects epitomize the mental disfunction that grips the United States. It is an artificial and synthetic mindset that yields nothing worthy; it's merely a byproduct of empty commercialism and meaningless competition. It has laid to waste politics, social policy, instinctive morality, ethics, and empathy, and given rise to the rule of psychopaths.
Of course, team sports is just one of the damaging customs that degrade social empowerment and block self development. Another equally destructive indulgence is a reliance on 'divine intervention.' This one has actually cut Western civilization off at the knees and made it impossible for people to become the masters of their nation and their fate. It's a mindset that ultimately ends in self-annihilation, because it's a communal delusion that has no where else to go.
As always, My Two Cents.
Very thought provoking way
of looking at team sports as well as divine intervention.
Will mull that over. Thanks for the food for thought.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Hi Pluto
I always find something expansive in your perceptions of human nature and its evolution. You look so closely at events and responses and still seem to hold empathy, even when those events and responses seem empty and meaningless.
Hola Pluto! I thought that I'd address the
"team sports" matter mostly by throwing out some ideas, but nothing definitive. I think organized and or professional team sports and arguably adults are the problem with team sports as they exist today. Some factors that popped up in may mind are Money and franchises. If one can build a dedicated fan base, one can flog shit like team pennants, sweatshirts and the like. Also, face it, betting. This can be a curse with respect to individual sports too. Betting on individuals and teams both go way back, possibly forever. Roman chariot races, even between individuals, at the serious level, involved riders riding for teams, known, iirc, as factions. Different factions, regardless of who was riding, had followings and followers.
That's prefacatory to a degree. Way back, childrens sports were tarnished by sponsors, but only to a small degree, but big time by parents. Fathers and sometimes mothers demanding more playing time for their kids, and challenging things like called strikes, fouls, and close put-outs, etc. Maybe they were trying to live vicariously through their kids or maybe they sought bragging rights at the local Legion or Kiwanis hall becauser their kid was batting .350 or something. That whole thing, btw betrays a confusion between performance and statistics, excellence in say hitting isn't increased by good or bad calls, but statistics, of course, are. If you can hit .300 or better, you're pretty damn competent, but NOT if the umpires all work for your dad and give you the benefit of a lot of close calls.
At any rate, back when I was a kid, we all played tons of team sports, quite amicably and one thing stands out in my mind - they were almost all pick-up games. A bunch of kids would gather, choose teams, and play. The teams weren't permanent, nor generally even the positions, though the kid who owned a first baseman's mitt usually got to play first for whatever team he was on 'cause it was specialized, and presumably him too. So Fred might pay on your team on Monday and on the other team on Tuesday and one day he'd play right field and a different day he'd play second. A result was that we'd all play just for fun and have fun doing so, even though it was competitive and each side definitely wanted and tried to win on any given day. So, some factor or factors turned that childhood pastime into today's "team sports" with all of its evils and evil influences. Per se, the existence of teams isn't the evil, it's the parents or owners or sponsors or all of the above.
be well and have a good one.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
kids sports
I thought were important for child development. Therefore, I used to volunteer as an umpire in
little league baseball organized in the town of Prescott,AZ while living there. It was alright with
the younger kids, but once I was asked to umpire a bigger kids game for a game from Phoenix.
It was ridiculous. The Phoenix folks in the stands were throwing out expletives on my calls, soon followed by their coach, then the players joined in. I called the game, spoke to the rude parents and coach, then dressed down the players, saying this game will end right now unless you stop with
sideline criticisms. They quieted down for awhile, but soon enough started with the cat calls.
I'm thinking JFC, this is supposed to be about kids playing a game.
Anyway, I only had to throw out a couple of trouble makers from the stands and let the game
finish out it's innings. I don't know who won, or if it was even close. I was seeing red. Last time
I ever volunteered to ump.
Think you are right about parents projecting onto their kids. Fear of failure, suppressed aggression
or whatever. It really took the fun out of the sport.
Thanks for the salient feedback
There is, of course, a major categorical difference between playing actively and recreationally at team sports — and being a spectator (and speculator) of team sports. The later is a degenerate and empty process that devalues humanity and the self by monetizing and polarizing the game. In the West the sport is transformed into a socially toxic system that becomes the paradigm for every form of social endeavor. Each time this competitive, zero-sum model of winners an losers is used (where ruthless aggressiveness is labeled "individual liberty") it corrupts and undermines the power and purpose of progressive consensus. It steals society's ability and willingness to follow a shared "vision" that leads to a better civilization for all. It becomes the thief of that magical force that humans can muster, which proves that they are greater than the sum of their parts. If we had the natural social instincts to create a vision we could all share, then looming catastrophes like climate change could be surmountable — even though we are past the point of no return.
Again, my focus is only on adult spectators of team sports, where there is no meaningful relationship between the players and the audience.. That's where the psychological damage damage is hardened, and where it clones itself into all parts of the culture. Immediately following 9/11, I began referring to the US as a "sports bar filled with drunks." Because the decisions the US was making were the decisions of belligerent drunken assholes. And the People accepting the these drunken decisions were even greater fools. And their idiot children couldn't wait to enlist. And even now in 2022, every hour on the hour, one of them blows his brains out with his handgun.
(China's practice of "Consensus Vision" in their participatory democracy is one of the reasons that I trust China to pull the world out of its extinction event — which the Western world cannot do. I am profoundly aware of the great sacrifices that China has made, and is making, to save the environmental biome and preserve global biodiversity. I know that Westerners cannot see this, so it is pointless to mention it. However, in another decade, China's vast military will have planted the equivalent of TWO Amazon forests right on top of China's current landscape, which reaches deep into the Gobi Desert to reclaim it. The land and water engineering to make this sustainable is a futuristic marvel, complete with highways made out rigid sponges that act as invisible rivers and waterways carrying captured precipitation where it is most needed. Using shared vision and personal sacrifice, the Chinese stopped what would have now been a devastating population bubble inside their own country, which would have taken food out of people's mouths the world over. Meanwhile, the West condemns China for their one-child policy, and it reviles them for trying to save every single Chinese life they can with their Zero-Covid response to the pandemic.)
Humans have long had the ability to build a utopia for humankind, so that each individual can live a happy and fulfilled life. And the West is plagued with their sociopathic leaders (whom the People favor at each election). The West is determined to destroy China in order to prevent that utopian vision from ever being established.
Thanks for the clarification. n/t
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Thanks for the post, janis
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Thanks Janis. It has been shown that cerebral
activity burns a lot of calories. In short, thinking is tiring (and requires resources to sustain). It can easily be argued that it is not survival of the fittest, but survival of the laziest and/or most efficient, those who best conserve and utilize energy and resources. Hence there is an inclination to find a bandwagon that is not too distressing or outre and climb aboard, mimicking and parroting those who've already labored at sorting out what is right and pure and true and holy. Only rarely does one find a bus like further to hop on, and even that ride had its little dogmas. And trudging along some crooked and madly forked path solo is very tiring, a perpetual salmon day, so few essay to try for very long.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Hi el
I found your comment totally gratifying to absorb. It’s so you, being your solid self, expressing what you know and trust intimately, and offering your generosity of spirit.
Thank you
Thanks. n/t
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --