The Dose 01-03-22

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The Dose is an open thread dedicated to the gentle discussion of of all things Covid. Please refrain from posting covid material elsewhere. Thank you.

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[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI5E8z89c9U]

For a while now it’s been clear the primary objective of most pandemic coverage is to scare the socks off mass audiences. Good news, bad news, boring news, interesting news, news that’s more of a wash in the final analysis, news that’s a net plus overall: it’s all presented as terrifying, more signs of the Apocalypse. There’s no better example than the stampede to advertise the “first death from Omicron” in the United States.

Matt Orfalea does a hilarious job of stitching together an homage to the latest moral panic. So many great little details here, from the “Way Too Early” background to one reporter’s premature death report to the “aggressive Covid vice” imagery, the dramatic Biden-cough, and so much more.

It was the world’s loudest record-scratch when the WHO in the first week of December said the ominous “Omicron variant” of Covid-19 had been detected in 38 countries, but without any known deaths.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/tk-mashup-omicron-death

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ7xKo5218c&t=3s]
Kim's 8 min are the worthwhile part

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JqleH52qEY]
20 min of health specialist stories and contradictions

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout "you are 20x less likely to get infected than if unvaccinated ... vaccines help slow the spread." What? Anyone know where he's getting this unchallenged assertion? Last I checked, there has been an increase in cases as the boosters have rolled out, against a backdrop of 2/3 of the public having gotten the first 2 jabs. Data from Gibraltar and Israel, both countries heavily vaxxed, also suggest more vaccinations = more cases of Covid occurring.

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@wokkamile

Ryan isn't trustworthy IMO.

The largely unvaxed Palestinians compared to the Israelis makes an interesting comparison
https://www.swfinstitute.org/news/88277/israel-vs-palestine-on-covid-data

a bit more here.
https://mondoweiss.net/2020/09/as-israels-covid-19-crisis-swells-palesti...

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout good to know what's being said about the vaccines on some of these more popular mainstream shows, especially this program which gets a lot of lefty views bc of Kim Iversen.

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From https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2022/01/02/what-is-mass-formation-...

There are other sources of this discussion also.

"Malone began this part of the conversation by asking Rogan, “What the heck happened to Germany in the 20s and 30s? Very intelligent, highly educated population, and they went barking mad. And how did that happen?”

Since this wasn’t an episode of the TV show Jeopardy, Malone quickly answered his own question with, “The answer is mass formation psychosis.

Malone continued with “When you have a society that has become decoupled from each other and has free-floating anxiety in a sense that things don’t make sense, we can’t understand it, and then their attention gets focused by a leader or series of events on one small point just like hypnosis, they literally become hypnotized and can be led anywhere.”

I just had to look up the meaning of "mass formation psychosis". Found a couple of sources, but I'll leave that to the readers here.

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"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin

@Fishtroller 02 thanks, I never read Forbes articles they're usually paywalled. And Steve Forbes was a regular old rich asshole as far as I can remember, why give them the clicks? shrug I read it despite my bitching, and the opinion piece quoted more of the Rogan Malone interview, but gave no sources... because of courses? LOL sorry, I guess sources aren't much needed to form an own fine opinion. Now I can't get vendetta outta my head. Plonk! "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but all of the latest mass psychosis blather comes from one guy named Mattias Desmet, at Ghent University in Belgium. He probably has a twitter feed but didn't look for it. Here's a linky to his researchgate page, I feel sick again:
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mattias-Desmet-2

An hour long interview with him from Peak Prosperity was posted here a month or so ago. They are both insane ass clowns imo, but I learned something so for me it was worth listening to the whole thing. He works for the Department of Psycho-analysis and clinical consulting.

Mattias Desmet on Our Grave Situation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRo-ieBEw-8
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Old territory if you remember The Wave ABC After School Special. It lives on in all its terribleness here:
The Wave 1981 (after school special)
https://archive.org/details/the_wave

This is a slightly higher quality version of 'The Wave' from 1981.
For original see: https://archive.org/details/thewave_20170531
Bruce Davison, Lori Lethin, John Putch
Based on a short story by Ron Jones
A broadcast of the program ABC theater for young Americans, October 4, 1981 by ABC
Based on the experience of a high-school history class in April, 1967, in Palo Alto, Calif. Explores what happened when a teacher started a Nazi-like movement called The Wave in his history class to show the students the effects of such a movement

Here is a big page describing that 1967 experiment:
https://psychologydb.com/the-third-wave-experiment
HTH Hope that helps.

Peace and Love
sieg heil

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@eyo

They say to "fight fire with fire" as it were, so I'm going to advocate that we all band together and meet each nascent and/or ongoing mass psychosis or hysteria by engaging in one of the old time and time honored ones --

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

@enhydra lutris thanks for the kind greetings and everything, wow I feel rusty in the comments department and can't find the reply I wrote earlier. Since I deleted more comments than I posted today, all is fine. Here's my favorite tube comment to go with your post, there is always one to make me laugh out loud. right on

Paulius Žvironas
1 day ago
When you put pasta on pizza you become extra Italian.

Put some pasta sand in that there gear pizza! Abbondanza! heh

Peace and Love
to all the gang

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@eyo

Good thing is, google does not allow pasta and pasties within their domain
on controlling dialogue phasers. Our words become dead meat at the hands of
the elite sausage makers. Good thing we understand each other. Smile

[video:https://youtu.be/NKZi0NWesEs]

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@QMS thanks, you are the OG man. Top shelf! There are no people within proximity that sustain me like this blog, and the thundering herd who came here to support the broad range of thoughts and opinions after the great orange satan purge. Politics is dead to me, the people are alive. I cannot stay away too long, and decided my most radical act on earth is simply to not become dead yet. pew pew pew!

Peace and Love
gratitude

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Sorry I didn't reply sooner. We were on the road trying to get back to KY from MT. Lots of adventures but we made it. I never use my computer while on the road, hence the delay.

Thanks for taking the time to read the article in Forbes. There were others, but that's the one I picked. Bottom line for me is that Malone is running out of anti vaccine juice, so he decided to get all head in on an even vaster conspiracy arena. Gotta stay ahead of the game, you know, or the roaring crowd will pass you by.

Malone is obviously a huge narcissist and this is probably why his colleagues in science dropped away from him over the years. Gotta give the guy kudos for figuring out how to stay in the game and make some money out of all of it.

The Wave sounds familiar to me, but I'd have to look at it again. One thing I recognize is the name John Putch. He is the son of Jean Stapleton and ran the theater north of Gettysburg PA for years with his mom and dad.

Again... it was nice to see/hear a new voice here that at least opens the door to another POV that moves us beyond the anti vax daily gish gallop that has become The Dose.

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"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin

@Fishtroller 02 @Fishtroller 02 I didn’t expect him to explain it so clearly, but he certainly did. I can’t help but wonder/worry about his end game for his followers.

Edit to clarify: “he” is Malone.

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@TB mare

I was on the road for three days and not on my computer, so sorry I didn't reply sooner.

Yes, Malone knows exactly what he is doing, but he may have bitten off more than he can chew, as the critics who paid attention to his "mass formation psychosis" thing are quite intense on his ridiculous statements.

I found this one definition of MFP online and got a laugh out it because I think it describes perfectly Malone and those who follow him..

Psychosis is when people lose some contact with reality. Mass formation psychosis is when a large part of a society focuses its attention to a leader(s) or a series of events and their attention focuses on one small point or issue. Followers can be hypnotized and be led anywhere, regardless of data proving otherwise. A key aspect of the phenomena is that the people they identify as the leaders – the ones that can solve the problem or issue alone – they will follow that leader(s) regardless of any new information or data. Furthermore, anybody who questions the leader’s narrative are attacked and disregarded.

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https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2022/01/debt-rattle-january-3-2022/

I'm full of hope that the top headline about Joe Rogan winning against State Media is spot on and people are waking up to that fact. Covid has needlessly killed many and done unseen damage to so many others and for what, worthless fiat money? Or because they believe that they are so superior to all of us. This has to stop somehow, someway!

• The MSM Is Losing The Fight Of Its Life…All Thanks To Joe Rogan (QTR)
• Joe Rogan Joins GETTR As Twitter Censorship Intensifies (PM)
• Understaffed Hospitals Ease Mandates, Rehire Unvaxxed Employees (JTN)
• Vaccines Don’t Stop Covid Hospitalizations Or Deaths (Berenson)
• Insurance CEO Says Deaths Up 40% Among Working Age People (JTN)
• New York Woman Arrested For Giving Teen Covid-19 Vaccine At Her Home (RT)
• Britain Got It Wrong On Covid: Long Lockdown Did More Harm Than Good, (G.)
• Bizarre Neurological Illness Plagues Young Canadians
• Navy, Air Force Issue Blanket Denials Of Religious Exemptions (JTN)
• More Than 2,500 US Flights Canceled Sunday Citing Covid (JTN)
• Biden Pick for FDA Chief Holds Millions in Big Pharma Investments (CHD)

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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commercial pilots from flying after taking experimental shots

https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-letter-to-faa-warns-that-federal...

Op-ed:

Just how far have we devolved from typical medical protocols when it comes to mandating experimental shots on everyone? According to a group of lawyers along with doctors familiar with health care protocols in civilian and military aviation, pilots are actually prohibited from flying after taking a non-FDA-approved treatment or one that was approved less than 12 months ago.

Lawyers for Children’s Health Defense, along with several doctors including Lt. Col. Theresa Long, Peter McCullough, and Ryan Cole, recently sent a letter to the FAA and the CEOs of all the major airlines warning that anyone who got the shots, under current regulations, should be subject to a 12-month do-not-fly status. The relevant statute, Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations §61.53, states, “No person who holds a medical certificate issued under part 67 of this chapter may act as pilot in command, or in any other capacity as a required pilot flight crewmember, while that person ... [is] receiving treatment for a medical condition that results in the person being unable to meet the requirements for the medical certificate necessary for the pilot operation.”

While this statute is wide open, the prevailing regulation under the Guide for Aviation Medical Examiners states that examiners should “advise airmen to not fly (DNF) and provide additional safety information to the applicant if they are taking several types of medical therapeutics, including anything approved by the FDA within 12 months.”

“FAA generally requires at least one-year of post-marketing experience with a new drug before consideration for aeromedical certification purposes,” the authors warn in the letter. “This observation period allows time for uncommon, but aeromedically significant, adverse effects to manifest themselves ...” (emphasis added).

Isn’t that interesting – that we’d actually want to follow up on uncommon adverse events? Well, here we are with the most rushed vaccine in history, for which none of the commercially available versions have even gotten full FDA approval (Comirnaty is not yet available) and the numerous side effects are common and ubiquitous beyond belief, yet Biden is mandating the vaccine on pilots! Every commercially available vaccine is still under Emergency Use Authorization status. A federal judge in Florida recently found the government’s argument that Pfizer is interchangeable with Comirnaty to be “unconvincing.”

Thus, not a single “vaccinated” pilot who has been flying has received an FDA-approved vaccine and most certainly has not waited the required 12 months post-approval. Just how far has the aviation industry deviated from the law? Commercial pilots only wait 48 hours after having the shots, while military pilots can fly again after just 12 hours. Studies have shown that the average time it takes for myocarditis to present in injected patients is seven days after the shot, but it could take as long as 40 days to become apparent.

Typically, the aviation industry uses the most stringent protocols accounting for the worst-case scenarios for risk assessment of the pilot’s safety after undergoing a medical treatment. “Ordinary military aviation has more stringent medical standards than the FAA,” said one of the authors, Dr. Peter Chambers, in an interview with TheBlaze. “However, both failed to adhere to long-standing risk mitigation and aeromedical safety measures critical to safety of flight, especially with regard to widespread use of an experimental drug with the least long- and short-term safety data ever used by pilots in the history of modern aviation.”

Chambers is a rare gem in the military. He is a flight surgeon and a lieutenant colonel Green Beret, making him one of the few members of the Special Forces with a medical degree. He is currently in the Texas National Guard doing border missions after having served in the Texas COVID response missions last year.

The Special Forces doctor believes he himself was severely injured by the Moderna shot and now suffers from a brain bleed. “After serving 38 years in the military and getting every vaccine known to man, I trusted my government on this one,” said Chambers in describing his initial overcoming of concerns. “After the second shot in March, I developed pretty serious vertigo, brain fog, and unsteadiness of gait. I started taking ivermectin to counter the spike protein. I eventually got an MRI several weeks ago, and changes on it were commensurate with others who had cerebral vascular accidents following the mRNA vaccine.”

Chambers is convinced the shots caused the brain bleed because he had six other soldiers who experienced “the same symptoms and MRI findings around six months after the shot.” Two men in their 40s had to undergo surgery, and one had to learn to speak again. Chambers said that he is having a secondary neurological follow-up to deal with his own injury.

The experience with vaccine injury has harmed Chambers’ work on the ground, which makes him all the more fearful of the consequences for pilots flying in the air.

Chambers and the signing attorneys attached a list of 10 known cases of otherwise healthy pilots who reported adverse events to the VAERS. The ailments included myocardial infarction (heart attack), atrial fibrillation, pericarditis, brain swelling, elevated intra-cranial pressure affecting spinal cord and brain stem, sub-arachnoid hemorrhages (brain bleed), blindness. Needless to say, these are not the sorts of injuries you want when flying a commercial plane. We’ve all seen the hundreds of cases of young athletes suddenly dropping on the playing field. Imagine if we are to see that in a pilot mid-flight. Vertigo, which is a particularly menacing ailment for pilots, is a known common side effect of the COVID shots.

“In sum, neither the law nor common sense countenances that federal agencies charged with ensuring public safety ignore concerning data and thereby jeopardize public safety,” concludes the letter. “Nor do law and common sense countenance ignoring information that evinces that both pilots and the passengers they serve are at risk of severe injury and possibly death. Finally, neither precept countenances killing a plane full of hundreds of Americans because a commercial pilot loses control of their aircraft after suffering a major blood clot, seizure, or myocarditis-related event, which in turn causes his jet to be involved in a fatal catastrophic crash ... before regulators decide to finally act.”

The doctors who signed the letter recommended that every pilot who got the shot be “immediately flagged and medically re-certified only after showing aeromedically acceptable D-Dimer, Troponin, ECGs, cardiac MRIs and PULS tests, and otherwise clean bills of health.”

D-dimer tests would easily show who is suffering micro-clotting, and troponin tests measure for the protein that is released when heart muscle is damaged. A recent study showed that PULS tests were critical in surveilling comprehensive cardiac damage done by the shots. Numerous heart health markers from the PULS testing showed that the risk of acute coronary syndrome more than doubled in patients who got the shots, from 11% to 25%.
This letter raises some serious concerns as to how far our government is willing to go in covering up safety concerns about the shots. We have safety regulations for a reason. Shouting “emergency” for a pandemic that is no longer acute and for which the shots no longer work should not drown out the voices of those raising concerns about an industry that relies upon optimal levels of safety at all times.

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and that Lt. Col. Peter Chambers will be grounded.

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@Bisbonian

will fully realize that we are not clockwork mechanisms, but semi-unique biological systems including multiple symbionts and that, ergo, everyfuckingthing done to any of us for the first time on each and any day is "experimental" - they need a new word.

Just getting that mini rant out of my system at long last, sorry it went here Wink

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@enhydra lutris ,

in the aviation world. I cannot carry passengers for hire in my experimental aircraft, though I can easily take a hundred and eighty of them around the patch in a 737. Unless I have a runny nose. I cannot fly if I am taking a long list of highly approved medicines; certainly not one that is only provisionally approved ("experimental"). Physiology of humans can be quite different at altitude than it is on the ground. Effects of many common drugs that are well known, tested, and approved for use, can often lead to medical issues in the air. Reduced air pressure brings things out of solution in the body, makes alcohol have a more potent effect, diabetics passing out in flight are a common problem. You don't want your pilots to have blood clots in their legs...a common reaction to some of the vaccines.

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@Bisbonian

has been tossed around way too much, way too imprecisely, and in way too many contexts since the whole covid thingus started. I am sadly all too familiar with too many of the weird, variable and weirdly variable strange goings on with my physiology (and neuro-mental processes as well) to not laugh and/or challenge. Just about any damn thing I do or have done is "experimental" in one or more senses or aspects, even if I had something so similar that many would say "the same thing" done yestidday.

be well and have a good one

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Who killed Ivermectin?
Was the plan by Goa’s Health Minister absurd and unscientific? Or was it potentially a powerful remedy for COVID-19?
Gourav jaswal analyses 20 Jun 2021

Three Weeks. Just 3 weeks is all it took for Vishwajit Rane’s ambitious plan to go from ‘Start’ to ‘Dead’.

From May 10, 2021 onwards, the Health Minister of Goa declared in a series of tweets—without any context-setting discussions preceding it—that the anti-parasitic drug Ivermectin would be administered to every adult in the state (resident population about 19 lakh) free-of-cost.

He mentioned “…expert studies from the UK, Italy, Spain and Japan…” which he said had found a significant reduction in mortality, time-to-recovery and viral clearance in COVID-19 patients treated with Ivermectin.
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United in Opposition

This plan was met by a storm of protest. Not just by Goa-based political opposition (who framed it as a financial scam) but also by credentialed individuals and organizations.

Dr Soumya Swaminathan, Chief Scientist of the global World Health Organization (WHO), is an Indian and daughter of the legendary Dr MS Swaminathan, father of the ‘Green Revolution’. She’s also previously been Director General of ICMR in India. She immediately tweeted "Safety and efficacy are important when using any drug for a new indication. @WHO recommends against the use of ivermectin for #COVID19 except within clinical trials".
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Dead beyond Resurrection?

In the same week as the court directive, the Directorate General of Health Services of the Union Government removed Ivermectin and a few other drugs completely from its treatment protocol.

In India’s federal structure, Health is a state subject, giving states considerable power in decisions. But this change by the Central government was a blow because Goa—as well as Uttarakhand and Karnataka—are also ruled by the BJP, which chokes their ability to defy the Centre.
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The Perfect is the Enemy of the Good
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It soon became universally available and inexpensive. You can walk into most chemist stores in Goa and buy it for less than Rs 45 a tablet. A complete course—even at retail price—would cost you less than Rs 250.

So why should there be such hesitancy in even exploring the efficacy of Ivermectin?
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We’re in a country where the only Indian vaccine (Covaxin from Bharat Biotech) was approved and is being injected in millions without even having reported Phase 3 of clinical trials data. We’re also in a country where a dubious remedy with zero medical credibility—Coronil by Baba Ramdev of Patanjali—was released by the Union Health Minister. And went on to sell over Rs 250 Crore in 4 months of launch in 2020 itself. Despite its claims being challenged in courts in multiple places in India, as recently as last month, the Government of Haryana announced that it would distribute 1 lakh Coronil kits in the state, contributing half its retail price.
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Contrast this with Ivermectin. A drug that has saved countless lives, has been widely-cited as a ‘wonder-drug’ along with Penicillin and Aspirin, that is proven across three decades (and almost 4 billion doses) to be safe. A drug that is cheaply available in India from multiple manufacturers, hence reducing the risk that only one company benefits. A drug that is just one among a long list of anti-parasitic treatments that have shown to have anti-viral properties. A drug that the WHO itself has long included in its list of ‘Model List of Essential Medicines’.

In a development whose news rippled across the world, Dipali Ojha, the Head of the Legal Cell of the Indian Bar Association, a 4-year-old private body of lawyers (founded by her husband Nilesh Ojha) sent a Legal Notice to Dr Soumya Swaminathan and the WHO for the adverse comments against Ivermectin. Cementing the fact that it has as many vocal proponents as detractors.
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The Undeniable Ivermectin Miracle in India’s 240m Populated Largest State, Uttar Pradesh

Uttar Pradesh might sound obscure to most Americans, but it is the most populated state in India, with urban areas that rival the most densely populated cities in the U.S. Yet, miraculously, despite housing a population of 240 million people, this northern state has been averaging only 24 cases and 0-2 deaths per day in recent months. Despite its size — roughly 73% of the U.S. population — it ranked dead last in cases per capita last week among India’s 36 states. What gives?

The answer likely lies in the 10-letter “I-word” that you are not allowed to mention on social media: ivermectin. Evidently, the global medical junta doesn’t like the over 60 studies vouching for the efficacy of ivermectin against SARS-CoV-2, especially when used early, but there is something better than a study: pure reality of lived experience.
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As you can see, COVID has been dead in Uttar Pradesh with the exception of a very brief six-week spike in the early spring. Uttar Pradesh likely would have been the first world experiment of what a given area would have looked like had they been taking ivermectin from day one before a wave hit. Unfortunately, hundreds of thousands of seasonal migrants fled Mumbai and other big cities when the Delta wave hit and all settled back in their villages in Uttar Pradesh, giving them the same spike that every other state got because those people were not on ivermectin....
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But when the state began distributing the drug to everyone, cases plummeted quicker and sharper than anywhere else we’ve seen in the world, and the gains have held for months with record low cases. Dr. Surya Kant Tripathi, head of the Respiratory Medicine Department, King George Medical University, Lucknow, told the Financial Express Online in April that the state began giving ivermectin to everyone who was in home isolation (rather than telling them to do nothing until they can’t breathe, like we do here in the United States).

Overall, the death rate in Uttar Pradesh was roughly 95 per million people, roughly 1/20 the death rate of the U.S. More importantly, despite being the largest state in India, it incurred one-third the death rate of the country as a whole.
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Remember, Kerala, at 34 million people, is just a fraction of the size of Uttar Pradesh.

Furthermore, just 4.5% of people in Uttar Pradesh are fully vaccinated, compared to 20% in Kerala. In this tiny state, already 70% of people 45 years and older and almost 56% of its population have had at least one shot.
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We already have dozens of studies vouching for the efficacy of ivermectin. While the establishment likes to complain about the sample size of each one individually, as one study published in Nature noted, “The probability that an ineffective treatment generated results as positive for the 55 studies to date is estimated to be 1 in 23 trillion (p = 0.000000000000043).” The story of Uttar Pradesh and the other Indian states that used ivermectin certainly demonstrates this.
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Reuters is connected to the Twit fact checkers so I see no conflict of interest here..oh wait. Moving on.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

@snoopydawg this on the JRI.

The media and Pharma joined at the hip.

Not exactly surprising.

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NYCVG

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@NYCVG

This is confirmation of it. And gee what a surprise. Thomas is also connected to WEF. Once again we see that it’s not just a private company doing it’s own censorship. Pfizer won’t let anyone criticize their product on social media. What stage of capitalism is that?

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@snoopydawg @snoopydawg Authoritarian? sp

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

in yesterday's Dose, please report here if you have experienced any problems lately getting your IVM in the US. In early Dec, I had no problem having a refill sent from a CA pharmacy, and in mid-Nov I received a backup supply from a source in India. Has something happened in recent weeks to make it more difficult for anyone out there?

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@wokkamile

Is this letter from the FDA trying to crack down on it's use.
https://trialsitenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Ivermectin-Letter-t...
more here:
https://caucus99percent.com/comment/555194#comment-555194

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout
It is now also "not recommended" which basically puts it out of bounds for the pharmaceutical companies. That is the "kiss of death" that can used by TPTB.

https://app.magicapp.org/#/guideline/nBkO1E/rec/jWXlBL
We recommend not to use ivermectin in patients with COVID-19 except in the context of a clinical trial. (Recommended only in research settings)

Maybe we could do some research here at The Dose? /s

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@CB recommendation is just that, and is not legally binding on anyone or entity in the US. So practically speaking it's little more than an exercise in typing.

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@wokkamile
preventing the sale and use of the drug by doctors, such as India and SA.

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@Lookout there is a lot of vague and weaselly language in that letter, carrying more bark than bite, and which gets into an area of off-label usage of approved drugs which has traditionally been the call of treating and prescribing physicians, not pharmacists or public health bureaucrats.

And meanwhile, at flccc.net they still carry a long, long list of US pharmacies willing and presumably able to fill scripts for IVM.

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@wokkamile

reality is that the fed medical bureaucracy
is attempting to stymie the deliverance of
certain medications to prove their point about
vax being the only alternative.
If you have had to go thru the process of getting
a script, then having it filled in the US, you would
know how this is being undermined.

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@QMS The feds def want to crack down on IVM use for Covid as it impinges on the vaccine territory for their client BigPharma and would legally eliminate the EUA status for these drugs. But, iirc, IVM has always, for 40 yrs, been a prescription-only drug, so requiring an Rx for IVM didn't occur just bc of the Covid vaccines.

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not to prescribe or fill ivermectin the DOJ is also confiscating any that comes from India. So even if someone can get their doctor to write for it, a pharmacy won’t fill it. And a few countries over the pond have outright banned it from being sold. Some people are still able to get it, but it’s getting harder.

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@snoopydawg months ago, probably from Dr Kory, about how the feds were pressuring to get pharmacists not to fill the prescriptions for iVM. But still there are enough pharmacists out there not buckling under it would appear. And is there in fact a complete shutdown of imports of iVM from India? I've heard rumors and read one anecdote, but beyond that ...

Just wanted to ask here about any who had a personal experience or problem getting IVM prescription filled or shipment from overseas delivered. I can't find anything in our known usual indy medical sources talking lately about this.

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@wokkamile IVM twice in the last couple of months. It arrived in two weeks both times. Ordered from India came in through Charles de Gaulle.

IVM has been over the counter in Mexico and pretty sure other countries. Before Covid it was easy to get in the US by mail through Canadian mail order pharmacies. No Rx was needed.

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@Dawn's Meta you haven't had problems there in France. I lived in Paris shortly after graduating college yrs ago, so feel slightly jealous. Then I remembered the place is run by centrist technocrat Manny Omacron who is a Faucist wrt vaccines and v-passports, so packing up to move to France again, as a non-vaxxer, probably isn't in my future. Unless Mélenchon gets elected, in which case I might reconsider.

Meanwhile I'll continue to be hopeful about getting my regular IVM supply from CA and hope the price remains reasonable.

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without fail.

Always. They have been planning their global coup against democracy for more than 20 years. Formally, Ever since the Punta Del Este event 15-20 September 1986, Punta Del Este, Uruguay.
And its nasty "compromise"

They didnt want the world's media reporting this, as it would have taken away the phony legitimacy they worked so hard to fake. Which makes their work much easier.

So they created a whole, global fact suppression infrastructure, its obvious.

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that the spike protein produced by the vaccination CAN be problematic for some and why we are seeing adverse effects, especially for this class of vaccines that target ONLY the ACE2 receptors.

This is why I have always said I would accept the killed-virus Chinese vaccines because, even though their efficacy is lower than the mRNA vaccines AT THE BEGINNING, they will stand up better in the long run.

It is unfortunate that the mRNA therapies were rolled out without any significant animal studies at all with less than 6 months of testing (only 3 months in children). To add insult to injury, we no longer have a placebo group to compare how well the vaccines are ACTUALLY fairing in RL since the cancellation of that cohort after only 4-6 months.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE9UUX7NV5Q]

Spike Protein from Infection or Vaccine Can Be Problematic for Some (An Article Review)
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The Pfizer trial should have been rejected because they did unblind the placebo group and therefore will have no long term information on their effectiveness. And for shoddy selection on who they chose to be in them. There have been no trials for safety in pregnant women, but they are telling people that they are totally safe. They can’t actually say that. Plus the low number of kids used in the trials and how they denied that there were any adverse effects. Umm what Maddie is going through certainly qualifies for that.

Here’s the pdf on the information that Pfizer used for its trial.

https://www.canadiancovidcarealliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/The...

I’m thinking it’s going to be used as evidence one day when they are brought up on charges of fraud and malfeasance. They definitely will unless the world totally gives up on justice. They have been found guilty of numerous crimes already and had to pay huge fines, but no one was charged personally. The very least should have been charges for manslaughter.

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@snoopydawg
then it would not be a double blind study. If you had any medical conditions that mimic those that could possibly be caused by the vaccination it would obscure them. Blum 3

Take good care of yourself.

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@CB

and I don’t need to have them amplified cuz they scare me enough already.

Back at'cha too!

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http://howbad.info/pfizer.html

IDK if this is accurate info but OMG

The second column is deaths and the next one is diabilities and the third one something else not good.

EN5318 2604 80 49 51
EN6205 2582 41 54 48
ER8733 2549 9 54 43
EL3247 2516 31 31 24
er8732 2492 35 43 53
EN6208 2488 51 44 49
Ek5730 2487 22 36 21
EP6955 2435 18 46 53
EN6207 2369 33 62 47
EL1284 2361 33 33 25
EN6200 2290 71 43 46
EL1283 2249 50 36 45
EW0150 2230 16 46 33
EL3246 2222 38 42 20
EW0151 2218 13 37 33
EN6202 2209 64 50 48
EN6206 2190 28 47 39
ER8729 2184 10 38 32
EN6198 2182 60 54 51
ER8727 2121 28 43 40
EN6199 2110 48 41 50
ep7534 2064 26 60 38
Eh9899 2052 21 39 25
EN6203 2039 34 42 35
EN6204 2029 41

The list goes on and on. The highlighted batch is the batch number of my second shot.

The article asked if certain zip codes were targeted for depopulation.

I'm generally not hysterical, but if anybody here followed my reaction---7 months of suffering----to my second shot, let's just say this is startling.

http://howbad.info/index.html

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@NYCVG
the Pfizer therapeutic that they have had difficulties ensuring the size of the lipid particle was hard to maintain and thus the quantity of the mRNA in each nanoparticle was difficult to ascertain - it could range from 1 to 10 so a given volume of the batch could vary as much as 1-4 times or even more.

Another factor was damage to the mRNA.

The EMA covid-19 data leak, and what it tells us about mRNA instability
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The shortage of information may reflect the lack of certainty, even among regulators, about how to assess the evidence fully for this novel technology. Professor Crommelin told The BMJ that, “For small, low molecular weight products, the active pharmaceutical ingredient integrity is typically close to 100%.”

But for mRNA vaccines? “Experience with mRNA integrity is limited.”

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the stinker batches are responsible for a boatload of death and disability. The fact that this correlation of adverse events with batches is not made easily accessible, requiring a merging of multiple database files, can only be intentional obfuscation.

In an honest and compassionate accounting recipients of high risk batches should have been NOTIFIED and COMPENSATED for their injuries and their heirs for their losses.

Fuck Pfizer and the Fauci they rode in on!

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They are noted in the case files on VAERS along with symptoms and outcomes. Someone from the CDC calls the person making the report to get all pertinent information before they get posted on the site. I wonder what goes through the people’s minds when they getting so many calls a day every week for over a year? I’m thinking lots of people are going to get a case of ptsd. Or will start thinking of blowing the whistle. How could you sleep at night knowing what they have to know?

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@ovals49 adverse reaction, I wonder how many others getting shots from the same batch similarly did not report.

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@NYCVG
Harvard study indicated less than ten percent of AE’s were captured by VAERS, across the board for all vaccines. For COVID vaccines some of the additional confounders include:

*The widespread assertions by HHS officials that mRNA vaccines were safe and effective and that side effects were almost exclusively both mild and temporary.

*The further amplification of these assertions by a compliant and incurious MSM ‘news’ outlets.

*The widespread active suppression across major social media platforms of any narrative that contradicted the official ‘safe and effective’ vaccine messaging, including demonetizing and deplatforming.

The cumulative effect of these confounding factors lead to a pervasive bias among the general population as well as medical professionals (whose livelihood often depends upon Federal funding) to seriously discount the possibility that serious side effects were anything but so ‘extremely rare’ as to be insignificant. The assumption that these mRNA vaccines did not cause serious adverse events became pervasive. If your doctor ruled it out from the get-go, how many patients would even think to make a connection or go on to file their own VAERS report? Very, very few I would think.

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That its dangerously (to profits) effective in preventing severe Covid, (if it is)

That if there are effective drugs that that removes the phony "justification" they claim that its an "emergency" that justifies anything? (Nothing does)

Why don't the crooks just retire, and go crawl back into their holes.

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contains lots of Pfizer stock. You don't want to miss out on guaranteed profits in 2022!

$31B revenue/1.9B doses guaranteed with government contracts.

  • Eligible Pediatric Population: Primary vaccination and re-vaccination
  • Omicron Variant: Primary vaccination and re-vaccination

Analyst and Investor Call to Discuss the First COVID-19 Comprehensive Approach:
Pfizer-BioNTech Vaccine and Pfizer’s Novel Oral Antiviral Treatment Candidate
December 17, 2021

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I knew there were many reasons to feel “I Love Lucy”.

Here’s one I didn’t know …

https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/01/03/sorking-the-ricardos-the-real-st...

[video:https://youtu.be/KY3eOtJwOhE]

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@janis b

Vitamins vegetables minerals and alcohol

You hadn’t seen it before? What a talented lady.

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What I didn't know was that Lucy was a target during the McCarthy times, and that Ricky was no angel ... but I could have guessed that part.

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My bad. I didn’t read the link. I’ll do so now.

ETA. Very interesting. Learn something new every day. Gah what a horrible thing to happen to so many people. I confess that I don’t know much about the time.

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In Canada, for example, Alberta Health Services announced on Dec. 23 it will allow unvaccinated healthcare workers to resume their jobs starting Jan. 10 if they submit to frequent testing. AHS cited expected increased demands on the health system due to the spread of the Omicron variant for the policy change. As of the date of the announcement, 1,400 healthcare workers who were not fully vaccinated had been placed on unpaid leave.

Quebec announced on Tuesday that some COVID-positive healthcare workers and other essential employees will be allowed to continue working in order to prevent breakdowns in services, CBC News reported. Healthcare workers who are triple-vaccinated will be prioritized.

Will the positive nurse have to tell their patients that they tested positive because I’m seeing people saying that they want mandatory jabs because they don’t want their unjabbed nurses making them sick, but jabbed nurses can be infected and still work anyway. Absolute nonsense.

Link

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Official German Government data suggests the Fully Vaccinated will develop Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome by the end of January 2022

German Government Data for the alleged Omicron variant of Covid-19, suggests that most of the “fully vaccinated” will have full blown Covid-19 vaccine induced acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS) by the end of January 2022, after confirming that the immune systems of the fully vaccinated have already degraded to an average of minus 87%.

- 186 unvaccinated cases
- 2,883 double vaccinated cases
- 1,137 triple vaccinated cases
- 4,020 fully vaccinated cases

In Germany 70.53% are fully vaxxed, 2.97% are partially vaxxed and 26.5% unvaxxed – https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

So unvaxxed have 186 cases out of 26.5% of the population
Fully vaxxed have 4020 cases out of 70.53% of the population.

So the vaxxed Omicron case incidence is 57.0 per percent of population (830,000 is 1% of the 83 million German population)
And the unvaxxed Omicron case incidence is 7.02 per percent of population.

So the vaxxed are 57.0/7.02 = 8.12x more likely to be infected with Omicron than the unvaxxed in Germany That is what vaccination has done for the people of Germany.

Malone called it VAIDS. Vaccine acquired immunodeficiency syndrome.

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but who the f cares about Jimmy Dore videos anymore? Some do I’m sure including you, but really, how meaningful is attention to Dore at this point in time? To me personally, it seems like quite a superficial placement of attention.

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Jimmy Dore is not an insignificant presence on youtube.
I personally have an issue with him because I feel he has led some good lefties astray.

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@gjohnsit those are old numbers but where is the decline? Jimmy's doing alright for a covid long-hauler I think. Still touring, no shows cancelled. His youtube page says 923K subscribers, each video get thousands of views. Maybe he'll fail up to a million and go crazier man! lol I'm sorry Jimmy Dore makes you mad sometimes, and I hope you find more good leftists on tv soon, and in your own fine life. Cheers.

Peace and Love
eat the rich

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@eyo
I believe that Jimmy Dore in on the "Dave Rubin Journey".
Where he eventually winds up where the money is - on the right.

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@gjohnsit is this what you mean?

The Rubin Report grew into one of the most-watched political shows on YouTube with an estimated 1.41 million subscribers.

Dave Rubin’s journey

“My message is think for yourself,” says YouTube political commentator Dave Rubin. “Don’t believe something is right just because someone told you so. Do some research… do what Jews have done for thousands of years, which is debate all of these things. Don’t be afraid of debates and arguments, that’s the beauty of life.”

Born in Brooklyn on June 26, 1976, Rubin’s journey from left-leaning progressive to classical liberal was certainly not a conventional one. From stand-up comedian and working a spectrum of odd jobs, Rubin would go on to host one of the most-watched political shows on YouTube, as well as become a New York Times bestselling author. Rubin recounts how he went to Hebrew school growing up, prepared for his bar mitzvah ceremony and enjoyed Shabbat dinners with his “extremely American Jewish family.” “We celebrated all the Jewish holidays and still do,” says Rubin. “Our lives centered around community and family. We would talk and argue about stuff. I think in many ways that’s a uniquely Jewish thing. Like the saying goes... you have three Jews at the table, you have four opinions!” Rubin describes how arguments about politics and discussions centered around Israel would play a prominent role in his family’s life.

“My parents actually met in Israel during the 1970s after college while working on a kibbutz” says Rubin. “My dad was up North and my mom was closer to Tel Aviv, but they eventually met while teaching English, and the rest is history.” Since first visiting the country in 1997, Israel would play a prominent role in Rubin’s life. That year, Rubin would spend a semester at Ben-Gurion University of the Negev. More than a decade later, Rubin would celebrate his sister’s wedding in the city of Jaffa, and has visited Israel four times since then.

There's more, much more. It is quite a journey, I recommend reading all of it to the end. Thanks, and good luck achieving your objectives.

Peace and Love

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"Jimmy Dore Seriously Believes ..."

Seriously believes exactly WHAT? I've watched 5 minutes of a 23 minute vid and they've said zip shit remotely hinting to what the big reveal, 22 minutes of so in if going to be and that's all the time I'm giving these self styled leftists, sorry.

be well and have a good one

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on JD upon us? Did you even watch it in full?

I did and it is full of innuendo and speculation. You are wasting our time by bringing in this dead horse to beat upon for the third time. The only reason I even watched Sam Seder's crap is because I still have considerable respect for your view points here in C99.

Jimmy Dore is not an insignificant presence on youtube.
I personally have an issue with him because I feel he has led some good lefties astray.

Then speak your mind exactly what these issues are instead of using Sam Seder as a surrogate. I know you don't like JD for whatever reasons but you will now have to come and state these issues so we can evaluate them and have an honest and open discussion.

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Jimmy Dore claiming that the CIA hired a left-wing anarchist to smear him is pretty wild.
As for that smear, since you apparently didn't watch it when I posted it before, it was nothing more and nothing less than a detailed examination of what Jimmy said on his program, and what the documents he was referencing actually said.
His "correction" was weak at best. And now he's claiming that he didn't do anything wrong.

at the very least you shouldn't trust Jimmy.

Basically, Jimmy is doing the Dave Rubin Journey, because that's where the money is.

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They seem to have info that backs up governments paying people to discredit others. It’s not like they haven’t done things like it before. It’s pretty much the same as the massive censorship and deplatforming anyone that doesn’t repeat the party line. You don’t seriously think that they wouldn’t do that do you?

His correction was what you thought it was. Others accepted it. Love to know who you think is acceptable to put our trust in. Hopefully it ain’t the young fcks? Ryan Grim-reaper?

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@snoopydawg Link here

Then there is Shaun, a British BreadTuber whose recent attack on left-wing political comedian Jimmy Dore’s criticisms of government Covid restrictions contained echoes of the “Challenging Pseudoscience” project prepared for Thorn by intelligence-related outfits. Shaun’s arguments relied heavily on statements by official experts and US government bodies like the FDA and CDC. While Dore has been limited by YouTube’s sweeping speech codes, Shaun’s viral video appears to have benefited from an algorithmic boost.

Now if I hadn't actually watched Shaun's video I wouldn't know that this is some KING-SIZED BULLSHIT!
I don't say that with any enthusiasm because I've followed Greyzone for a long time and I frequently look for what they report out of Latin America. But now I'm forced to have a skeptical eye toward their reporting. For example: "Shaun’s arguments relied heavily on statements by official experts and US government bodies like the FDA and CDC."

You wanna know what Shaun's arguments relied heavily on? Jimmy Dore's own words and the documents that Jimmy Dore quoted from. That was the lion's share of Shaun's video, and anyone who actually watched his video would know that.
So this statement by the Greyzone is somewhere between misleading and an outright lie.

Then there is this: "Shaun’s viral video appears to have benefited from an algorithmic boost."
It only takes a 2 minute search of Shaun's youtube page to discover that his Jimmy Dore video is far from his most popular video. For instance, he got twice as many views on a video denouncing the U.S. dropping atomic bombs on Japan. And his videos attacking PragerU get even more views.
So where exactly is this "boost" happening?

His correction was what you thought it was. Others accepted it.

I have 3 problems with Dore's "correction".
1. He never accepted any responsibility. He laid all of the blame on his producer.
2. His correction only covered a single, irrefutable point of Shaun's video. He never addressed the other 40-some minutes of points that Shaun had.
3. Now he's blaming the CIA. Which means he's backing off even this small "correction".

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@gjohnsit Haven't seen any signs of a rightward drift by Jimmy. And isn't the Bernie-endorsing Joe Rogan rather successful not tacking to the right?

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@gjohnsit
It was the Singapore "much ado about nothing" blown way out of proportion using semantics but it didn't change the truth of the matter.

JD spoke the truth: the rate of infections and deaths went up despite lock-downs, masking and vaccination rates. Even Walensky and Fauci have had to walk back their previous advisories and finally admit this very same truth. Maybe they should have listened to JD!

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It was the Singapore "much ado about nothing" blown way out of proportion using semantics but it didn't change the truth of the matter.

And I purposely didn't respond to it.
Because if someone lies to a person, and I point out to that person "Hey, you're being lied to and this is how you're being lied to."
And then the person who did the lying admits to have lied.

And yet the person (i.e. you) that was lied to, looks you in the eye and says "I wasn't lied to."
Then there is nothing left to say.

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If Jimmy Dore could post a video saying "Hey, I got this wrong" and you won't even accept Jimmy Dore's statement that he got it wrong, then what chance do I have of convincing you of anything?

I would put my chances at less than zero.

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@gjohnsit
It was right on the money and I proved it by going right to the original source - the Singaporean government itself. You are quibbling over syntax due to an error in writing a direct quote using quote marks from a story in a online news agency. If JD had not used the quote marks then Seder would have not have a case - because JD's basic story line was confirmed.

Much ado about nothing.

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Your belief in something that is obvious, proven, and admitted by Jimmy himself to being wrong, makes me have real concerns about you.
I don't say that with any malice at all. I have actual concerns.

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