Fellow COVIDiots, lend me your ears...

I've found the entire pandemic to endemic SARS-CoV-2 saga intriguing. I've written several pieces here at c99 on my views. Tonight I caught a Jimmy Dore and Robert Malone conversation I thought all of you who are following the disease progression through our society might also find interesting.

I've cued the last few 20 minutes here but the entire 1.25 hour conversation is very thought provoking EXPLOSIVE Truth About Vaccines & COVID w/Inventor Of mRNA Vaccine Technology, Robert Malone

To my mind this is well worth your time, but as I said I'm intrigued by the entire sweep of the progression of this disease and US incompetence fueled by greed. But that's my 2 cents. Your mileage may vary (YMMV).

Y'all take care and be well!

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Gaslighting...that sums it up. My "liberal" friends have lapped it up, and are now dishing it out. And my ultra conservative mother is carrying a tube of horse wormer in her purse, because she doesn't trust the doctors on dosage.

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gjohnsit needs to watch it most of all!

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

are on the road and headed home tomorrow.
It will be my "thing to do" tomorrow evening.
Much appreciated.

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securing Ivermectin. Found a doc in FL to write a script. First spoke with my local apothecary. Had the script sent there. First hurdle was - your insurance doesn't cover it, second - need pre-authorization,
third well, it will cost $285. Fourth - all of our wholesalers are out. Shit -- it's easier to score heroin.
What a screwed up situation. Next step is to try another pharmacy across the state. Talk about jumping thru hoops!

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@QMS many state ability to prescribe. But the best news is that they use Canadian pharmacies so they can get supplies from vetted Indian manufacturers.

The telemedicine doctors will work across borders and across states.

We looked up no RX Canadian pharmacies and were able to order directly and have them issue the order from Hong Kong or India. We got ours from three different pharmacies just to be sure there was no problem with customs.

We've gotten all three orders.

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Thanks Dawn! Did use the FLCCC doc for this. Will see how creative she can be about sending out the script.

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@lotlizard
Confirmation bias is real and endemic. I never found much comfort in a big herd. Wolves still nibble around the edges for their meals. The ‘safety’ those in the middle of the pack feel is illusory.

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conversation. Thanks L.O. Sounds like everybody who knows, knows we have a very "leaky" vaccine here. It also sounds like, with this vaccine, we are encouraging the virus to evolve in more dangerous ways just as bacteria evolves to be antibiotic resistant when overused in the horrific way we use them especially in animal big ag.

It makes me wonder it TPTB are making things worse on purpose. It just seems to be so absolutely phenomenally stupid. How can you mandate a vaccine which is hands down, completely inadequate and potentially causing more harm than good. It makes no sense.

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@randtntx expressed in dollars and cents
Pounds, shillings and pence.
Can't you see?
It all makes perfect sense.

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After watching the clip, I felt compelled to share. Nothing new really, but confirmation of many ideas.

Y'all take care and be well!

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I had mono for 2 weeks as a teen. I have never experienced that level of fatigue at every level. I had to stop playing sports because of enlarged kidneys. Bummer. But then I got it again after moving to Cali and since I just got a new job I couldn't take time off...2 years later I was still struggling with it and had to take Wed off for 2 months to stay home and sleep and I finally kicked it. I DO not want to experience that again.

Why aren't more scientists speaking out about the risk of making the virus vaccine resistant? This ain't rocket science. And not allowing early treatment is unethical. ABSOLUTELY!!!! Lobbyists and Fauxi are killing Americans by not allowing it. Just so big pharma can get richer. Unfuckingbelievable.

Thanks for posting this. I too rec everyone who thinks that the 'anti vaxxers' are nuts watch the whole thing and see if they can understand where many of us are coming from.

Again here it the article that states that the vaccines are not vaccines and should be stopped as Malone and other have called for.

For those too lazy to click the article:

To be a vaccine, several criteria must be met:

1) the injection must provide you antibody immunity to a pathogen (virus or bacterium)

2) the antibodies produced post injection must be shown to confer protection from that virus or bacterium

3) the injection must demonstrate it reduces hospitalizations or deaths from the pathogen

4)the injection must demonstrate it reduces severe symptoms of the pathogen

5) the injection must demonstrate it stops you from carrying the pathogen

6) the injection must show it stops transmission of the pathogen from you to others

So are these injections vaccines?

The conclusion therefore is NO. This injection for COVID-19 is NOT a vaccine and all it has shown as reported by the injection developers, is an effect on reducing mild COVID-19 symptoms (the vaccines do not stop infection, transmission, severe COVID, hospitalization, or death); it is best described as a gene delivery platform; and the studies conducted by the injection developers were not set up to show any of the above 6 mentioned criteria; these injections for COVID-19 do not prevent transmission and were not designed to do this. We were told that they (developers) are measuring to see if the injection ‘attenuates’ symptoms. Again, this injection does not stop transmission or infection, including the Delta variant.

They are creating the variants and one day we might have a Rona virus that is imperious to any type of vaccine or medical treatment. And stop using them in livestock. And don't forget to take all of the antibiotics your doctor ordered. Stopping them early is why we are having antibiotic resistant diseases.

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just about everything. Dental work, possible Lyme, biopsies, etc. I don't think it is good to take the stuff, so I just collect it. Could be my own pharmacy. And yeah, a lot of the meat sold in stores is antibiotic laden anyway. Beef, poultry, pork and even fish. It is no wonder humans no longer can fight off viruses. Antibiotic tolerance by having too much already.

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@QMS

Dunno the answer to that if you are pretty immune to infections. I have had a boatload of them from all the root canals for abscessed teeth. Gah is there anything more painful than that? EVERY one of my top teeth needed one and after having a 4 canal molar worked on the rest of my molars pulled so I wouldn't go thru that again. However after having the ones on the left pulled cure my jaw pain since there wasn't any pressure on. After my jaw reconstruction is was very difficult and very painful to numb me. Over $20,000 for dental work all for naught. Hindsight is always 20/20 ain't it?

I am currently on one after having a 4 inch circle incision last week to make sure they got all the skin cancer. YAY they did, but the scar is gnarly and I bruise easily so.....

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@snoopydawg

and remember being exhausted for about a month. Fortunately never had a relapse. Stress often triggers viruses and other pathogens in our system.

The various vax are often described as leaky, because they allow some vaxed people to become symptomatic. Vaxed and non vaxed WILL get the Delta variant. That's why it is so important to boost your immune system NOW...being proactive instead of waiting for symptoms and being reactive.

Delta comes in like a hurricane, but it leaves a lot of immunity in its wake

we’re going to get it

Unless you just sit in your room, you’re going to get it in your nose, but at least in this country, it will be manageable.

Professor Monica Gandhi, University of California
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/delta-variant-vaccines-work/2021/...

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@Lookout

I had gone thru 6 life changing moments in less than a year when I came down with it again and then I was burning the candle at both ends and probably just got worned down. I remember sitting at stop light and barely able to keep my eyes open and thought, wow this is just like when I had mono. I didn't know you could get reinfected or reinfect yourself by doing that. When I was young mono was called the kissing disease and so I couldn't understand how I got it since I hadn't kissed anyone yet. lol... but since the virus stays dormant in the body till one gets stressed again chalk that up to another reason I am vaccine hesitant. Plus I already have 'Covid' lungs so until we figure out where that came from. Latest test was negative.. scheduled another. My doc is as baffled as I am, but he will keep testing till we either find the cause or run out of tests to do.

Since you and others started talking about boosting ones immune system I have been doing just that. I have had swollen glands for most of the year and one is painful and that went away once I started. Still swollen, but not painful. I'll take that.

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@Lookout
death rate in India that I've posted in chart below?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/delta-variant-vaccines-work/2021/...
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First, it’s important to understand how this version of the virus arose. The coronavirus can mutate when it replicates, especially when circulating at high rates. There have been different variants of concern, starting with the alpha variant, which was prevalent in the United States in the spring. But the delta variant, which was first detected in India this year, is now the most common version in our country.

The reason it has so quickly dominated is that it is more “fit” than other variants — outcompeting them when it comes to reaching and infecting unvaccinated people. Although this means delta is more easily transmitted than the other variants, there is no evidence that it causes more severe illness. It has not resulted in higher rates of hospitalization among the infected, and it is not resistant to a full course of vaccines.
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I believe we are being gaslighted by the Legacy Media.

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@snoopydawg 9/11 attacks and the several thousand killed. The collateral illnesses and deaths in people who helped clear the rubble and tried to find those who were caught are many. I'm still not sure why the warnings (similar to the ones about January 6th) weren't heeded and treated with urgency.

However, the scale of the inching forward to 700,000 deaths due to COVID (lordy, I don't know if that's true, when somewhere I read that compared to expected deaths the current number are not that many - help) as I was saying, it appears the scale of deaths is just unbelievable and no one blinks???

I will add here again, that it's being said quietly, but apparently true, that the Passport will show a person who was fully vaccinated, will be classified as unvaccinated after six months. So there is to be some kind of expiration interval, after which a booster is required to keep a person in society.

The EU passports have spaces for eight boosters.

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The collateral illnesses and deaths in people who helped clear the rubble and tried to find those who were caught are many. I'm still not sure why the warnings (similar to the ones about January 6th) weren't heeded and treated with urgency.

I remember thinking how could you decide that when the air was full of pulverized buildings, people, chemicals and whatnots? And yes many of the people that worked recovery came down with some gawdawful diseases, but congress refused to authorize health benefits for them. When they finally did there weren't enough people left alive or it was too late to save many of them. Just like not adequately treating war veterans or caring if those who served lived on the streets or not.

However, the scale of the inching forward to 700,000 deaths due to COVID (lordy, I don't know if that's true

IF that number is accurate it just further shows that this country puts no value at all on the working class. No talk about Universal health care, vitamins at least and our poor diets for many because they eat cheap food because it is affordable. But the fast food industry has just as many lobbyists to keep that topic silent.

I seriously doubt the number from Covid is that high. Blue republic has posted a video of nurse saying that if anyone comes into the hospital for other reasons than Covid, but test positive for it they get diagnosed as having it. With and From are two different categories of death and should be noted as such. Earlier this year I read an article where thousands had been confirmed dead by Covid, but a group did a FOIA, freedom of information act to see the results and the real numbers were around 10%.

Now we are seeing state after state saying that their hospitals have been overrun and they have to start triaging people, but the numbers now are much lower than they were a year ago and that didn't happen. What then could be causing it? Maybe the many nurses, doctors, tech ect were laid off and hospitals closed down? Ralph Nader said that over a million have been closed since 2000. And guess who has been buying them? Hedge funds who squeeze every penny out of them or else. So yeah, the richest country in the world now cannot take care of its people or do anything to keep them alive. Depraved indifference at the very least. Malone mentioned how people who were having difficulty breathing were sent home until their breathing got much worse. Whilst they were at home how many infected others in their families? OF course it would have been too expensive to house infected people in hotels like other countries did. Can't waste money like that on the riff raff now could they?And again no real financial support so now we are seeing millions being chucked out of their homes because they couldn't pay rent. One state, Mississippi I believe gets to keep the family's possessions if they get evicted. How truly evil!

BTW the British version of the FDA advised against vaxxing kids, but the PM Boris the clown is going to give kids the option of taking them anyway over the parent's objections. Unreal. Shades of.......ANd what is the death toll from treatable diseases that had been cancelled for over a year so that we wouldn't over tax hospitals? In what world does prioritizing treatment or death make sense? Bueller?

The vaccine mandates are causing more nurses and doctors to quit as well as cops and firefighters, but still the WH, the house, post office and a few others are exempt from them. Gee being as cynical as I am I wonder if that is the goal. Who is going to be hurt most when the services we rely on aren't there anymore? It is not going to be the rich who have concierge health care and great hospitals to go to.

Yeah I am chatty this am. Got up at 5 cuz I couldn't sleep. Yee gads.

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The 2 to 4 year olds will be next followed by 6 month old babies. The 1st, 2nd and 3rd trimesters of pregnancy have already been authorized.

BTW, weren't we already informed that herd immunity will be impossible to attain because the vaccines were too "leaky" and didn't convey immunity?

Pfizer advances clinical trials for 5- to 11-year-olds at lower doses
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"Today marks an important next step in our efforts to understand the safety and immune response of our COVID-19 vaccine," Dr. Bill Gruber, senior vice president of clinical research and development at Pfizer, said in a statement. In the coming weeks, Phase 2/3 trials will start for 2- to 4-year-olds, as well as those as young as six months, according to Gruber.

"We take a deliberate and careful approach to help us understand the safety and how well the vaccine can be tolerated in younger children," Gruber said.

"Children younger than 12 make up a significant portion of the total global population and can develop COVID-19 disease, and also can spread the virus to others," Gruber added. "If successful, we believe vaccinating children will help further protect our communities and contribute to the evolving herd immunity.”
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side effects that people have been reporting and being ignored. Plus they are still injecting young men who face the risk of cardiomylitis Facebook had a group with hundreds of thousands of people who had reactions and were looking for help and they got banned leaving them hanging. Plus they are on the hook for the medical bills. Some have been permanently injured and will need disability, but good luck getting that. I just hope that the truth gets out one day and those who have committed these crimes against humanity will be prosecuted. High hopes I know.

"Children younger than 12 make up a significant portion of the total global population and can develop COVID-19 disease, and also can spread the virus to others," Gruber added. "If successful, we believe vaccinating children will help further protect our communities and contribute to the evolving herd immunity.”

Well that ain't going to change!! This is disinformation if not outright lying to us.

BTW listening to the vid you posted on our military adventures. Great stuff. Thanks!

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@snoopydawg @snoopydawg
that could explain the following:
covid-vaccinations-vs-covid-death-rate-3.png

The US, Israel and UK rely solely on vaccines. Bangladesh and India have considerably lower vaccination rates but use inexpensive ivermectin as a prophylactic.

To add insult to injury, the difference in money spent on health care per per capita is phenomenal:

United States $10,624
United Kingdom $4,620
Israel $3,207
India $275
Bangladesh $110

An additional factor is that people in India and Bangladesh have very high population densities and live in much more closed quarters. They are much less able to practice social distancing as we in the west.

Further note: The US and UK blame the unvaccinated for their current increase in deaths. I believe they are f'ing with their stats in order to hide the bad news. But not to worry. The drug companies will soon be selling their $50.00 Phizermectin.

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The drug companies will soon be selling their $50.00 Phizermectin.

I surely won’t be one of their customers. I rather become a horse!

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Majority Of Those Dying Had Both Jabs

Note: Doesn't allow me to cut and past.

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@CB

3/4 are from doubled vaxxed, but that shouldn't keep you from being vaxxed? The sentence says that overall the number of deaths are from the DV, but this is too be expected in countries with high vaccination rates, but shouldn't keep you from getting vaxxed as the death toll would be higher. WTF? Why get vaxxed if you still get sick and die? That is the exact opposite for what a vax should be doing. In what world does that even make sense?

Another article there said that in Utah 20% of vaxxed people still get hospitalized. Yeah imagine if polio and smallpox vaccines did what these vaccines are doing. Again, refer to the article on vaccines I posted above.

As for India and other poor countries Malone said that most people are too poor to get obese and there isn't a McDonald's on every corner like there is here.

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now, i am sending it to pals.
Great of you to bring this to our attention, LO.

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@on the cusp

hope y'all had a great trip. We've rented a cabin at the beach in a couple of weeks, and we're looking forward to sand, sun, and waves.

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@Lookout I have become a big fan of cabin and cottage rentals.
The video surprised me. I was expecting Dr. Malone's demeanor to be more aggressive. He is a very calm voice of reason. I hope people help spread that video around.

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@on the cusp

on the dark horse podcast I think...
yeah...Spike protein is very dangerous, it's cytotoxic (Robert Malone, Steve Kirsch, Bret Weinstein) 15.5 min

YouTube deleted the entire interview (with time stamps below) but it is here:
https://odysee.com/@BretWeinstein:f/how-to-save-the-world%2C-in-three-ea...
if anyone is interested.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Thanks for the Jimmy vid, I have no mind left to blow but if I did have one... yeah. Just call 899, BLAM!

The Intellectual People Podcast
Dr. Robert Malone, Inventor of using "RNA as a drug" and core mRNA and DNA vaccine technologies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYkUePQMfkE (2hr36m)
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Friendly timestamps for the whole show are listed over there,

00:00:00 Intro
00:00:22 Welcoming Dr. Robert Malone
00:00:32 What you invented?
00:01:29 Background
00:05:08 University of California, Davis
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01:16:09 Current work
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02:35:49 Wrapping Up

I listened yesterday up until "Current work" and will finish today, maybe. He also has a vanity site, and a book deal, and blah blah blah, etc.. Because of course. good luck

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@eyo

Hope you've tolerated all the smoke this summer. Perhaps it wasn't too bad where you live? The temps there looked much hotter than here in the south.....the irony of climate chaos.

All the best!

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There's a reason: it's an H2 inhibitor.

Drugs in the H2 category, such as Zantac (Ranitidine HCl), Tagamet (cimetidine), Axid (nizatidine) and Pepcid (famotidine), work by stopping the production of histamine.

Cuts down Histamine production which is a way to lower inflammation.

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isn't really "The Inventor" of mRNA technology" - it was a cumulative effort of a lot of work of different people (arguably starting with those who discovered mRNA, whart it does, and how it does it, long ago)

There was a thread on that in The Evening Blues on the 14th starting here:
https://caucus99percent.com/comment/543305#comment-543305

which cites an article in the Atlantic here: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/robert-malone-vaccin...

AS was noted by Pluto's Republic - his name isn't on the patent.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

@enhydra lutris about Malone get too hung up on whether he is "the inventor" of the mRNA vaccines, as if disproving he is the sole inventor is a major strike against his credibility. The way he is now talking about their dangers, one might think he would severely downplay his role.

I have heard him on one podcast clarify that he is responsible for creating the "platform" on which the mRNA vaccines are based, or some such. The author of the negative Atlantic article (as always, The Atlantic can be counted on to stand up for The Establishment, including in the medical-science area) seems to concede that Malone had a major hand in mRNA development.

I'm fine with that. Or calling him a "pioneer" in the mRNA field.

And often who among perhaps many deserves the most credit is not resolved until many years later, occasionally through years of litigation. This happened with N Tesla vs Marconi over the invention of radio (Tesla won, per a Scotus decision that took decades of litigation to resolve, the decision coming only months after Tesla died). There was, iirc, controversy decades after the discovery of the DNA double helix, as I believe one or two female scientists claimed, or claims were made on their behalf as to their central but unacknowledged roles in the discovery. Were Watson and Crick properly credited by the Nobel committee, or should one or two other scientists also have been given the award?

Malone has credibility and his mRNA creds are solid, whether or not he is the sole this or that.

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a purveyor of information on Covid 19 and the vaccines, why isn't he interviewing people who were truly involved in the whole development of the vaccines (like Katalin Kariko) instead of Robert Malone, who has greatly exaggerated his role in this issue and continues to offer unscientifically verified "information" about the spike proteins, etc. etc.?
Never mind. It's Jimmy Dore.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/10/podcasts/the-daily/mrna-vaccines-kata...

https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10/the-story-of-mrna-how-a-once-dismiss...

https://debunkingdoomsday.quora.com/The-spike-proteins-in-vaccines-are-h...

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"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin

@Fishtroller 02 unfamiliar to me. Has she appeared on any of the pro-Big Vax cable shows? I always see the same half-dozen in-house experts, along with the always-present Fauci (who still hasn't treated a single Covid patient, afaik). Always the same people. And of course never a single one from the vaccine skeptic medical expert community.

Re Jimmy Dore, he would appear to have very conflicted feelings about the vaccines, as his trusted doctor strongly advised getting them, but JD has had a lingering months-long series of serious symptoms after the second jab, so he might be more interested in learning from someone like Dr Malone what might be causing his side effects.

He's also more in the business of giving a platform to the under-reported camp. Kariko, if she could adequately explain the vaccines to a lay audience, would always presumably be welcome on the establishment media platforms. Malone not so much, except for Fox.

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@wokkamile

I have not seen her do shows like Dore's or other cable venues. She is a scientist and appears more interested in doing the science in place of self promotion.

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"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin

@Fishtroller 02 The NYT podcast which I partly listened to (annoying, cloying music, slickly produced interview) would explain why I don't see Kariko on the cables -- she has a thick Hungarian accent, and the co-host frequently talks over her to repeat or explain what the scientist was trying to say.

As for Malone's comments about the spike protein created by the vaccines, if he's so far off base, and it's such a slam dunk issue for the pro-mRNA vax side, why not invite him on one of the cables to debate it with an expert who could explain it simply to us rubes and why we need not worry. If it is such a simple matter, so clearly in favor of the mRNA vax side, the side which allegedly represents the Truth, why dodge the opportunity to expose the other side and gain a clear victory in the vax battle?

And for liberals and lefties, isn't open, real-time debate a better way to discuss these things rather than the blatant and aggressive censorship of the anti-mRNA vax side that so many libs seem to encourage these days?

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I worked at a large particle physics facility for about 5 years. I learned to think more scientifically about many aspects of life. I also learned to be skeptical and investigate as much as possible on all issues. So I'm pretty disgusted with the Left, but I have been for a long time. I spent a lot of time looking into topics like Ivermectin, Malone etc. etc. and my science nose smells something off not only with him but with the whole Ivermectin issue. What I have found, however, is when I try to post refuting information, it is ignored, or I get accused of being part of some Big Pharma love fest. I gave up for awhile, but today I got busy offering more counters to what is being presented.... only to have the crowd jump on me again. You see, this is how it goes... their info is on the noble and correct side of things, and I, again, am some sort of establishment tool.

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