Mike Gravel at the 2008 debate
Partial transcript:
Gravel appeared with the seven other contenders for the Democratic nomination for president. He stated that the Iraq War had the effect of creating more terrorists and that the "war was lost the day that George Bush invaded Iraq on a fraudulent basis." He maintained that an end to the war could be effected by a bill passed in the House and a Senate filibuster on such a bill defeated by a daily vote on cloture, but that the will to do so was lacking. Further, he suggested a bill requiring the president to withdraw from Iraq on pain of criminal penalties. He said the recent threat of a pre-emptive nuclear strike in the "war on terror" was immoral and would be dropped under a Gravel administration, and that America has no important military enemies and it is the influence of the military-industrial complex that has conditioned Americans to think of the world in terms of enemies. He characterized the CIA overthrow of democracy in Iran in the 1950s lies as the root of U.S. problems with that country. Overall, he said that all American armed forces who died in Vietnam died in vain and American armed forces in Iraq were dying in vain. Regarding his fellow candidates, he said, "I got to tell you, after standing up with them, some of these people frighten me — they frighten me."[22]
Lots of good ideas he thought of.
It was not a laughing matter! They laughed anyway. Millions were dead by 2008 and when called out for their blood thirst they laughed.
Since 2001 30,000 veterans have killed themselves which is a hell of lot of lives lost to our evil hegemony.
Timely and on the day that Gravel passed. Sending the libs a message, Joe? You won’t like mine.

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Mike Gravel 1930-2021
Mike Gravel was "One Of The Good Guys". Damn too few and far between; and now he's gone.......
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With the short shrift progressive (or simply humane!) ideas like his are getting these days, I wouldn't be surprised if he just decided that he was "gonna leave this brokedown palace" for better places hereafter.......
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Fare thee well, fare thee well
I love you more than words can tell....
Nihil umquam in oblivione est. (Nothing is ever forgotten.)
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Thanks than, perfect
Anytime, janis!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Anytime, for you too than
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Lovely
Thanks!
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
Thank you snoopy for remembering a good man and human n/t
Seconded.
NYCVG
3rd'd
He lived his values till the end. I hope the teenagers continue in his name.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
We need more like him...
Politicians of his ilk aren't around any more. Where are the anti-war voices in DC today?
Reading the pentagon papers into the congressional record was also an important aspect of his legacy IMO.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
No anti-war voices.
In NYC the WSJ closed its NYC political department and fired the reporters who had that beat.
The Daily News closed its newsroom months ago and the new editor fired/bought out its best known most seasoned reprters. All gossip and human interest misery porn these days.
The NY Times gave up on any actual NYC reporting long ago. What is offered now is RW opinions by Never Trumpers and RW Democrats.
The noose is tightening at an accelerating rate.
NYCVG
It’s frightening to see
So many big newspapers have been bought up by effing hedge funds and over 60,000 journalists have lost their jobs and many have gone solo and writing more freely. But it’s another gig economy job where people pick up the things their employers once paid for.
Repeat after me….
"You will own nothing and be happy about it.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
I agree
It was probably one of the most important things done that got the Vietnam war to end. If only Assange has someone in his corner fighting for him.
Tomorrow some British politicians are protesting against them not being allowed to see him. Fingers crossed.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
OH NO. OH NO.
THIS IS THE LAST THING I NEEDED TODAY. GODSDAMMIT.
He was my first-ever primary vote (2008) - had to pencil him in and had no real hope of him winning, but I did it with pride. I was being a citizen, doing the best a citizen can do.
If I knew then what I knew now...well, I'd have a hell of a lot more on my to-do list than voting, now wouldn't I???
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!