NOT April Fools -- Bill Clinton brought to suit.

Submitted by sojourns on Sat, 04/02/2016 - 6:41pm

This just in -- Federal suit brought against Bill Clinton Electioneering fraud.

https://www.change.org/p/massachusetts-attorney-general-maura-healey-arr...

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Submitted by TheOtherMaven on Sat, 04/02/2016 - 7:01pm

It will probably be dismissed as "frivolous"

especially since they don't even have a lawyer yet.

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Submitted by sojourns on Sat, 04/02/2016 - 7:14pm

It may be dismissed

Pray not but not because it is frivolous. There is merit to the facts presented.

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Submitted by the_poorly_educated on Sun, 04/03/2016 - 8:43am

You don't need a lawyer in America.

That's a misconception. You are free to represent yourself.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 04/02/2016 - 7:06pm

To flesh out the diary a little more

The folks in Massachusetts, who have filed suit in Federal Court against Bill Clinton, an action we need to support... need an Attorney to represent their case, which would have to be on a 'Pro Bono' basis (he/she may not get paid... but think of the recognition and admiration this would garner said Attorney OMG).

This is important folks... because the lawsuit is asking for ALL of Hillary's delegates, 63, to be stripped from her and awarded to Bernie, as a result of the premeditated malfeasance... THIS ACTION COULD TURN THE TIDE IN THIS ELECTION, AND IS CRITICAL.

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Submitted by sojourns on Sat, 04/02/2016 - 7:11pm

Thanks

Thanks for adding that.

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Submitted by Caerus on Sat, 04/02/2016 - 8:02pm

Thanks gbb

Have sent this link to everyone I know in western MA. Including the local papers, tho Clinton descended right near primary day, and as we've read, Sanders staff deliberately kept valuable voter data from volunteers, there is still a spirit of FIGHT in the Sanders supporters here - moreover, it adds momentum to the "I'll NEVAH vote for Her" meme!!!!!

Submitted by dkmich on Sat, 04/02/2016 - 7:08pm

I saw that. Slime bucket.

IMO, election fraud is the name of game. I think they stole Iowa, AZ, MA, and IL. They are warning everyone in NY to check their registrations and to take pictures of it. People all over NY are complaining they've been slammed.

http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/04/01/breaking-hundreds-of-new-york-dem...

Afte this primary, I am to a point that I don't know if I'll ever vote for any Democrat ever again.

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Submitted by B. Joe King on Sat, 04/02/2016 - 7:37pm

Jump off the "D" wagon!

On the one hand, it's good to have as many progressive voices as possible within the party; but on the other, those voices, no matter how numerous, are continually ignored. Good ol Bernie isn't really a Dem, he just plays one on tv
The Socialist Alternative Party is a good one to join, they've got a seat on the Seattle city council held by Kshama Sawant. The Green Party is good too, but is dismissed more often than taken seriously. I mean, even in my home state of Oregon the Libertarian party gets more votes in statewide races.

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Submitted by MinuteMan on Sat, 04/02/2016 - 7:54pm

The point

Afte this primary, I am to a point that I don't know if I'll ever vote for any Democrat ever again.

Ironic since it sounds like the point of the whole thing was to keep you from voting for a Democrat in this primary.

Submitted by MsGrin on Sun, 04/03/2016 - 12:26am

This point has not been lost on me.

...but I remain mystified how they think this will work to their advantage strategically - Dems don't win with small turnouts. Truly puzzling.

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Submitted by gulfgal98 on Sun, 04/03/2016 - 6:43am

they do not care about winning

The PTB in the Democratic party are simply protecting their donor class. They do not have to win to do that.

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Submitted by fugwb on Mon, 04/04/2016 - 8:59am

I think the Hillary would

I think the Hillary would like to win the general but I truly don't think she gives a shit. She'd rather win the primary, (and make history) and lose the general than have Bernie win the primary AND the general...
What's going to be interesting is, if she wins the primary, what could happen in all of the "safe" blue states. I could see her losing some of these states because the Bernie supporters skip voting for her as a protest. Wouldn't that send a freakin message if she lost say, New Jersey or Oregon. I could definitely see her losing Vermont. Wisconsin, Maine? Not to mention swing states like Florida and my state, Ohio. Here's a list of the "safe" blue states. It's underneath the video of George Will.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2013/nov/10/george-will/...

Submitted by SoCalHobbit on Sat, 04/02/2016 - 8:45pm

We have a first past the post system, with it's spoiler effect.

This type of system always devolves into a two party system. It sucks.

The Romans used Sortition, sort of like a lottery. No spoiler effect, at least.

Dance with the one who brung you, I guess.

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Submitted by TheJerry on Sat, 04/02/2016 - 7:10pm

Prossibly

They are looking for a ProBono lawyer to take down the "Big Dog"

Unfortunately, the most experienced lawyer for the job is leading the FBI and trying to bring down the other Clinton.

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Submitted by sojourns on Sat, 04/02/2016 - 7:12pm

I believe

that it is a civil suit and wouldn't involve the FBI. I could be mistaken.

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Submitted by jamess on Sat, 04/02/2016 - 7:11pm

Hope they

follow thru on this.

Someone needs to.

Submitted by Bollox Ref on Sat, 04/02/2016 - 7:16pm

The Clintons are beginning to remind me of the Bourbons

Petty and stupid, but desperate to remain in power, whether it be in France, Spain, the Two Sicilies, etc.

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Submitted by TheOtherMaven on Sat, 04/02/2016 - 7:40pm

Some Bourbons eventually learned

The current lot in Spain don't seem to be too far out of touch with the people, and let's hope things stay that way.

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Submitted by Bollox Ref on Sat, 04/02/2016 - 7:57pm

True..

But one shouldn't go elephant hunting in Africa with your 'best female friend' when your country is in fiscal crisis, as Juan Carlos I found out.

Hence Felipe VI.

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Submitted by thanatokephaloides on Sat, 04/02/2016 - 8:23pm

Bourbons

*Some* Bourbons eventually learned; the current lot in Spain don't seem to be too far out of touch with the people, and let's hope things stay that way.

And Maker's Mark is actually pretty tasty, unlike the Southern-Fried Paint Thinner Rotgut that usually goes by that name. (Reference to one of the oldest rivalries on the old FidoNet HOLYSMOKE Echo and this C99p essay).

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Submitted by PastorAgnostic on Sat, 04/02/2016 - 8:28pm

Gotta love it.

Neat, or with solidified water chunks?

Submitted by thanatokephaloides on Sun, 04/03/2016 - 3:53am

Either way should be OK.

Maker's Mark, shaved solidified dihydrogen monoxide, crushed leaves of herbs in the genus Mentha, add sucrose to taste.

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Submitted by Bollox Ref on Sat, 04/02/2016 - 8:43pm

What exactly is 'bourbon'?

And 'Rye'?

I'm not a spirit drinker.

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Submitted by thanatokephaloides on Sun, 04/03/2016 - 3:56am

spirits

Bourbon and Rye are spirits made from grains.

Bourbon is made principally from corn. Rye is made, of course, from rye.

Now whether they are good spirits or evil spirits I leave as an exercise to my reader!

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Submitted by Bisbonian on Sun, 04/03/2016 - 10:21am

I am pretty sure that to be labeled "rye"

It must be made from at least 51% rye.

I could look it up, but that would be so hard....

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Submitted by lotlizard on Sun, 04/03/2016 - 6:29am

The Netherlands had to fight Spain for EIGHTY YEARS

before finally winning their independence (although that wasn't the Bourbons, it was the Habsburgs).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighty_Years%27_War

Submitted by TheOtherMaven on Sun, 04/03/2016 - 1:18pm

And frankly the Bourbons were an improvement

over the Habsburgs, who were in the main incompetent and excessively inbred - so much so that they finally bred themselves into extinction. The last Spanish Habsburg was such a walking birth defect that everyone was astonished he made it to 30-something.

His heirs were his sisters' grandsons, one of whom (Philippe d'Anjou) was also a grandson of Louis XIV (who was very much alive and kicking, and managed to get Philippe placed on the Spanish throne by force of arms - note, this is the condensed version).

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Submitted by mileser on Sun, 04/03/2016 - 10:17am

Yeah, and essentially

bankrupted France. Louis XIV was loved for much of his long reign, but after getting a Bourbon on the Spanish throne, bankrupted France and so at the end of his reign was hated.

He left France in financial ruin and never really recovered and eventually led to the conditions that sparked the Revolution.

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