Biden: "I mean what I say when I say it!!"
Kiss your Hope goodbye. Audio of Biden's response to progressives who are not happy with some of Biden's cabinet picks. Can you listen to less than 5 minutes at the start? Did you hear what Biden said? Or just comment?
Updated with transcript.
I mean what I say> "I talked about Charlotes-ville and restoring the soul of the nation. I meant what I said!"
Here’s what Biden told the civil rights leaders:
So there's some things that I'm going to be able to do by executive order. I'm not going to hesitate to do it, but what I'm not going to do is I'm not going to do what used to--Vanita, you probably used to get angry with me during the debates, when you'd have some of the people you were supporting saying, 'On Day One I'm gonna have an executive order to do this!' Not within the constitutional authority. I am not going to violate the Constitution. Executive authority that my progressive friends talk about is way beyond the bounds. And as one of you said, maybe it was you, Reverend Al, whether it's far left or far, right, there is a Constitution. It's our only hope. Our only hope and the way to deal with it is, where I have executive authority, I will use it to undo every single damn thing this guy has done by executive authority, but I'm not going to exercise executive authority where it's a question, where I can come along and say, I can do away with assault weapons. There's no executive authority to do away that. And no one has fought harder to get rid of assault weapons than me, me, but you can't do it by executive order. We do that, next guy comes along and says, well, guess what? By executive order, I guess everybody can jave machine guns again. So we gotta be careful.”
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anyone who holds hope for this administration...
is deluded. His appointees are all so horrid. What warmongers. But don't worry he will (not) understand your suffering. You can't make it up!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Biden basically told us --
"Don't have any hopes that I'll do anything." So is Bernie Sanders going to try to create another facade around the guy?
“One of the things I love about the American people is that we can hold many thoughts at once” - Kamala Harris
Maybe democrats shouldn't have used Ukraine to impeach Trump
It seems that all it did was shine a spotlight on Hunter Biden/Burisma/Joe Biden's pay to play on $1 billion. Sure looks like it has come back to bite them in the ass.
Apparently the FBI has Hunter's laptop since 2018. And remember there a few of his partners spending some time in jail for things that happened when Hunter was working with them. I hope this doesn't turn into a 4 year witch hunt.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
the 2nd Bill of Rights
the other day I mentioned what a new party should be for. Keep it simple, don't get into lefty specifics on all issues...even though I agree with all of the Peoples' Party stances. I don't think it's capable of growing beyond where the Green Party is. I suggested a few core principles that could get support, without realizing it's already been suggested...in 1944 by FDR. This is what a party should be. The Democrats have abandoned it but here it is.
Pretty simple. Biden is proving already, as we knew he would, that we're not going to fix the Democrats. I want a third party that's based on the above points.
Hear, hear!!
Sadly, we had another lesser of two evils election. Trump has proved himself an incompetent buffoon. Biden has proved himself a friend of the monied class. And both of them are in their mid to upper 70s!! Being 65 myself, I know damn well I'm not the person I was in my 30s and 40s. I don't even trust myself to make sure the iron is unplugged anymore. Neither Trump nor Biden proved themselves worthy of the job of president.
@Shahryar Peoples Party!
Peoples Party!
feh.
So have you been involved in the People's Party? I think they're justified at this point in the game in ignoring naysayers.
“One of the things I love about the American people is that we can hold many thoughts at once” - Kamala Harris
I think the Peoples' Party is doomed
how is it different from the Greens? I respect Cornel West. Maybe he has some organizing skills that the US Greens lack. But anybody reading the website will say "that's a fringe lefty party".
As I said, I agree with what's there, as you do. But how is it going to grow? I think it is so specific that it can't attract a large constituency.
And people said nobody would vote for Bernie Sanders.
Look, the People's Party agenda is basically Sanders' agenda. The difference is that the People's Party has brought in a fair number of people, e.g. the ones that attended the convention they held at the end of August, that the Green Party never really approached. They're also trying strategies the Green Party hasn't tried, e.g. hub organizing.
I was part of the Green Party from 1992 to 2004. It would be nice if you'd fill in your observations here with any sort of detail. I'll ask again: have you been involved?
“One of the things I love about the American people is that we can hold many thoughts at once” - Kamala Harris
I'm more than a little uncomfortable
with the notion that the success or failure of political parties depends on their ability to appeal to the public. I'm even more uncomfortable with the idea that, if parties do succeed or fail based on how much the public likes them, that the public's likes or dislikes are based solely or even primarily on said party's policy positions. I'm not sure there's any empirical evidence of any of that.
Given that there have been at least four instances of successful election fraud in a Presidential election over the past twenty years (2 in the generals of 2000 and 2004, 2 in the Democratic primaries of 2016 and 2020), and given that none of those successful frauds were ever punished in any way whatsoever, and given that all the people who engaged in those frauds are doing quite well today and still wielding power in their various ways, I'm not sure that the people's views matter to electoral success. And that's just one of the ways that the traditional American political assumptions don't hold up. We could talk endlessly about the role of the media in shaping public perception, and what happens when an entire industry basically becomes Grover Norquist's old messaging network writ large. But honestly, if there's that much fraud happening pretty much in the open, without either legal or political consequences for the bad actors, then how can we just assume that the lack of success of the Green Party is because it's too far left for Americans to like it?
I wonder how many Americans even know the Green Party exists.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
All very good points.
I concur.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Thanks! And, btw, it's good to "see" you. :-)
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Good to “see” you too.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Nobody is being punished for election fraud --
-- because the fraudsters are telling everyone, especially Bernie: "so what are you going to do about it, vote for Republicans?" This, as I've said before, is the message they use to shut up dissent within the Democratic Party. And it's a very effective message. Bernie Sanders didn't challenge the enormous election fraud committed against him in 2016 (I have yet to see the definitive analysis of what happened in the 2020 primaries, so I'm holding my fire for now) because there was nowhere to go.
It's really the main reason why there needs to be a People's Party. It could be the ONLY reason why there needs to be a People's Party, and that would be ENOUGH. There needs to be a choice, and not just a Sophie's Choice. Like I said, I worked within the Green Party. There is simply nothing going on there. And there won't be anything going on there. They've already made it clear that they have an agenda, Ten Key Values and such, and you can take it or leave it, and if you leave it that's fine with them because they're just fine with the small-town romance of a small-time political party. They've got no database. Remember in December of 2019 when the Democratic Party threatened to withhold its database from Bernie Sanders' campaign? Yeah, the Greens have no database. Their "Presidential primaries" are all beauty contests and all the decisions are made at the national convention by whomever can afford the air fare to show up. (That might change now that everything is being handled through Zoom meetings.)
That and the Greens in power (which seems ridiculous when you understand that they won't admit to BEING the Greens in power, oh but they're real, very real) pretty much caved in 2004 when it became apparent that the rank-and-file wanted Ralph Nader to run as a Green but they didn't want to be seen as disturbing John Kerry's "George W. Bush, but smarter" Presidential campaign for that year. Yeah. Sixteen years ago, and they still haven't lived it down. In 2004, in Milwaukee to be precise. I can't think of a state more deserving of a third party than Wisconsin.
And do you remember 2004? All of those who complained this year that Trump was a "fascist" need to remember the rather definitive police state that was organized at the Democratic Party convention in Boston in 2004 to keep any protesters from being heard. They created what was basically a closet outside the convention hall and called it a "free speech zone" as if the First Amendment only applied in that tiny space. Meanwhile, John Kerry was telling a packed convention hall of antiwar Democrats that "we will win the war in Iraq!" It's no wonder he's going to be a big figure in the forthcoming Biden administration. Sieg heil, John Kerry. And don't disturb him when he's running against George W. Bush. That, then, was the situation in which the Green Party blinked.
Already the Democrats are being told to shut up. Will they? Past behavior is not comforting. Time for a new party.
“One of the things I love about the American people is that we can hold many thoughts at once” - Kamala Harris
The Greens not only have no organization,
but what little they do have now appears to exist only to support Howie's ego.
Here in CO, the Green party has fallen from a peak number of registered voters of 11,494 (set in May of 2017) to 8,573 as of 12/1/2020. (Source, CO SoS web site).
Their 2020 CO "primary" consisted on a wide-open online poll that was left up for a week in April, with no publicity whatsoever. A grand total of 47 people voted in it.
According to the CO SoS certified results, the Hawkins ticket received 8,986 votes (0.28%) in the 2020 general election, as opposed to the Stein ticket's 38,437 votes (1.37%) in 2016. And this in an election where protest votes should have led to a much better result, to my way of thinking. Hell, the Kanye West vanity/joke ticket got 8,089 votes (0.25%) here!
The dems didn't knock the Green ticket off the ballot here. In an election that has a claimed 86.87% turnout in this state, they simply didn't close the deal, and instead reduced the Green party result to essentially the same result as that of an obvious vanity campaign. What they are doing is not working.
I have voted Green the last two presidential cycles. It will be necessary for the Green party to make significant, fundamental changes before the next election cycles in order to earn my vote in the future. Yes, earn it: the free pass granted to the Greens by my disgust with the major parties over the last two cycles has now officially expired.
I will continue to vote third party, but not for a party that is making such giant strides backwards in the results. Not that any attention will be paid to a random yobbo on the web, but I would very strongly recommend that some egos be put on the shelf, and strong, forward looking alliances sought with other left-leaning third party efforts. Having the right policies with no publicity or name recognition is not sufficient in the current marketplace of ideas, and the unquestionable fact that the dems are utterly execrable and indistinguishable from the repubs does not excuse that.
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
Well, I agree with everything you say
(that I know about; though I was a Green for many years, I was never involved in the party, which, as far as I know, did not exist in North Florida in any perceptible form, so I don't know anything about the inner workings of the Greens). But it's not just the ordinary political blackmail on the part of the Dems that prevents the fraudsters from being held to account for the election frauds of 2000, 2004, 2016 and 2020, because it's not merely a political matter. It's a legal matter, and should be a very serious legal matter indeed; the fact that such cases have received nothing but legal obstruction presents another serious obstacle to making the electoral process, and the political parties who participate in it, a real instrument of change.
That said, there are other reasons, good ones, why to create a new party. They just don't have anything much to do with gaining political power through elections. And above all, a person can't judge a political party's popularity or strength by judging its electoral success. That idea just doesn't hold water.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I'd like to have some faith in the People's Party
But I'm not sure I've seen anything that warrants it, yet. Tell me what percent of their supporters bought into VBNMW and I'll tell you what chance they have of accomplishing anything. Still feeling pretty Berned by anyone claiming to stand for actual lefty policy.
?VBNMW?
Huh?
“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024
perhaps it stands for
vote blue no matter who?
Thanks for that clarification!
“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024
Why would you have faith in the People's Party?
It's just now being organized. Faith is something you'd have in organizations that have been around for awhile.
A lot of these "criticisms" of the People's Party can be easily answered with the old question: "of what use is a baby?" There is, you know, such a thing as potential.
“One of the things I love about the American people is that we can hold many thoughts at once” - Kamala Harris
Potential?
So, have a little faith that kid could grow up into worthwhile human being? Seems a pretty fine distinction.
Faith is something I'll need to believe The People's Party will even get off the ground.
There's a difference between faith
and an open mind. I don't have faith in the People's Party, but I do have an open mind. I won't prejudge it as a failure when it's still in the seed pod.
Which is not to say that one should always have an open mind about everything, of course.
I'm pretty sure that for all my purposes, the question of gravity and how it works has been pretty well settled, so I won't "keep an open mind" about whether or not I could climb up on the Empire State Building, jump off, and somehow ricochet from building to building around the city like Spiderman. Nor, for similar reasons, would I keep an open mind about whether or not the Democratic leadership of the last 15 years is going to institute progressive reforms if they "win" the "election." Nor, (in a related matter) would I keep an open mind about whether or not progressives or any other variety of leftists is going to be allowed to take over the Democratic party and turn it back toward a more left-wing politics reminiscent of, say, Otto von Bismarck.
Political parties are good for a lot more than electoral results, which is why I say that the jury's still out on what the People's Party could be. This is a shift in my thinking; I used to think that the fact that we don't have real elections meant that there was no point in having political parties.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I'm trying
I'm trying to keep an open mind about the People's Party, but I don't have much hope for it, based on recent experience. I suppose we'll know soon enough.
I see that FDR thing is mentioned ....
I'm willing to see what they do over the next few months. I've been wrong before.
That's great!
Every time you think that America can get by with only two mainstream political parties, consider this short clip from the Simpsons Treehouse of Horrors, released of course in 1996:
“One of the things I love about the American people is that we can hold many thoughts at once” - Kamala Harris
Rerum novarum
Holy Rerum Novarum, Batman!
(We've only been agitating for these most basic needs for 120 years + ......)
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Thanks for the link.
Is that the same encyclical that effectively advocates for devolution of power/decentralized decision making?
It's some late nineteenth century Catholic thing IIRC.
from Wikipedia:
rerum novarum etc.
No. Rerum novarum is entirely about labor/employer stuff, and the application of the neo-Aristotelian philosophy of Thomas Aquinas to the same.
Pretty common-sense stuff, really. "If the working classes have no security and no hope, they will make trouble. So, owning classes, make sure they have these things!"
Correct. Its promulgator, Pope Leo XIII (Joachim, Cardinal Pecci), issued the encyclical in 1891 and died in 1903.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Subsidiarity
Is the other thing I was thinking of - some of the ideas are 19th C to ancient, but was officially promulgated in 1931 something of a sequel to Rerum novarum:
from Wikipedia:
German private TV channel RTL just aired a Biden biography
Basically an uncritical, superficial infomercial, with many scenes from Biden’s youth and early career “reconstructed” with actors, i.e. what in an earlier era would have been called staged or faked.
Joe Biden. The new JFK.
We should start referring to Joe as JRB. We can honor him like we did Reagan by naming airports, schools, and government buildings after him. I myself will adopt the North Korean form of address and start referring to him as Dear Leader. It's mid-morning in America!!
I am naming my
toilet after him. And my trash can.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
You should see
if you can donate your toilet for his headstone.
Makes a wonderful vase for flowers.
Also, many will soon need the trash can for making hobo soup in large quantities.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
I may be using my toilet for a
funeral urn sooner rather than later if things keep on as they are.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
I'd rather be flushed
than for someone to keep my ashes on a shelf.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
My Mom's ashes
have been sitting on the mantle above the fireplace at my sister's for years now, but it's only because we haven't been able to get enough of us together to properly scatter her in the mountains of Eastern Oregon as requested.
But we'll get to it one of these days. Anyway, have had no complaints from her so far...
LOL!
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Mid-morning? Time for that brunch neolib women been missing! n/t
LMFAO!
Mid-morning, huh?
Isn't that when Pooh always had a little smackerel of something? Maybe we should all have a snack.
I wish we all could.
"Nearly eleven o'clock," said Pooh happily. "You're just in time for a little smackerel of something."
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
You really watch RTL ? hmmm...
what can I say. "Selbst dran Schuld" ? I doubt you will or could find any critical documentary or talk show discussion, which talks about Biden negatively, intelligently or critical though.
I feel quite lonely here in Germany. Have the feeling that almost nobody has a clue about how the US political and media theater ticks and is played. Those who do, are too careful and coward or polite to let others know.
No offense, just surprised.
https://www.euronews.com/live
I don’t watch at home, but RTL was on at my German ohana’s place
where, as the kids’ honorary “tutu” / Oma / grandmother, I regularly join them one evening each week, a custom they have upheld even during Covid time.
For some reason — probably something to do with having grown up in former East Germany, where the government controlled all the news media? — they love Americanized commercial TV and avoid public (öffentlich-rechtlich) TV like the plague. They didn’t use to watch TV news at all, instead sticking to reading the online site of the Social-Democrat-owned newspaper Sächsische Zeitung. They only started watching TV news last spring when Covid exploded. I guess they realized they now need to stay up to the minute since both work in the health field taking care of seniors.
There was this one day last spring, it was very unusual. I had just gotten back from the Netherlands and they called me up and told me to turn on the TV and watch Merkel speaking live on Welt TV (as in Springer Die Welt) about a looming health crisis. Merkel was on all the government channels and only a fraction of the private channels, but on that day somehow Welt TV was the news channel that drew them in as being worthy of their trust.
In the Biden documentary, the phony segments with actors were at least identified by the label “nachgestellte Szene” in faint type in one corner of the screen — the way things are going, I get the feeling that during any kind of TV news reporting they could leave that label up all the time now and it would be accurate, considering the way they manage and massage what stories we’re allowed to see and hear.
oh, thanks for the detailed response,
I just got confused of where you lived, when, and who were your parents and/or grandparents, and who you were in all of it. I think I remember you identified as Asian coming from Hawaii, so I concluded you may have been of Japanese decent. But then I thought you identified as Hawaiian, so I thought, may be Samoan, Pacific Islander. So I couldn't figure out how Germany, East Germany came into play. I really like to apologize for playing Sherlock Holmes, But I like mystery cases..
And of course I also have prejudices against RTL, which I should not have, as I never watched the channel since I am back in Germany. I just heard a man talking about his wife watching RTL and the men hated her for that. They needed separate TV and bedrooms to find an arrangement.
I apologize as well for showing my wrong assumption so openly.
The fun part of listening to your words is that I try to put together the puzzle of your personal identity and life story and never can finish the puzzle. But again it is not very smart to even try to do that online.
In real life it be much more easy to finish the puzzle.
Be well and take care of your health. It's a pleasure to read and learn from you.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Biden is positioning himself perfectly
to become our next one term President, assuming he manages to complete his first term.
The people of this country, regardless of where they sit on the left-right spectrum, see the need for change and expect action, not empty words that change with the weather.
Lead. Balloon.
“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024
I suspect that he will
slip on a banana peel in his shower while pulling his dog's tail within days of inauguration, and have to resign to spend more time with his family. Not only do I not think he'll finish his first term- I don't think he'll finish his first month.
And perhaps, just perhaps, that will be a factor in the inevitable 2024 bloodbath that is to come: the cosmic bait and switch of undead meat-puppets may actually be enough to make Joe and Mary Sixpack sit up and say "Hey, wait a minute- I didn't vote for Her, did I?".
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
zeppelin
More like a lead Zeppelin,,,,,
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Dancing days are here again
“One of the things I love about the American people is that we can hold many thoughts at once” - Kamala Harris
I think we should place bets on exactly when he will
step down. I'll place my bet on 16 months. Of course, we'd have to figure out what we were betting. One nice meal from Bite Squad? One nice bottle of whiskey?
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I already put $50 on Her replacing Biden on the ticket
but can’t remember who it was who took the bet. (whoever it was and I both pledged that the money would find its way to JtC for site maintenance) I should probably just send a check, since it’s looking like it will not be Her that replaces Biden, but Her’s surrogate Kamala that takes over.
“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024
It'll be a multistep process.
Biden will resign immediately after the inauguration as I described above, making Hillamala the prez. Hillamala will select Her as the VP. Hillamala will then also (to the amazement of all) slip on a banana peel in the shower while pulling her dog's tail- despite neither liking bananas nor having a dog. And viola! Clintonian peace and prosperity will rule the land, at least for proper definitions of the words "peace" and "prosperity".
I wonder if there is any truth to the rumor I just started about the Clintons buying a banana-peel import company? Inquiring minds want to know...
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
“When I use a word,”
Humpty Dumpty said in a rather scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to say—neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.”
Have we elected Humpty Dumpty? Biden kinda sounds like him.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Nice Catch!
I knew that line sounded familiar. lol
Cut the damn "third party" crap!
There is no such thing as a third party in America. Especially now, when there's no second party. The People's Party is a REPLACEMENT party. I get not saying that in public, but don't say the wrong thing to ourselves.
On to Biden since 1973
What’s it replacing?
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Bernie's campaigns.
When they evaporated, things got a LOT worse. Each time.
“One of the things I love about the American people is that we can hold many thoughts at once” - Kamala Harris
That light chuckling you can hear way off in the distance,
almost beyond hearing, is Obama.
'Suckers!'
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
What will happen, admit it or not
For a short time elections will be three way, Republican, Democrat, and People. Since the Republicans are the opposition and the Democrats are false friends the successful result will be the People winning hopefully most of the time, but the Democrats must finish last until the Democratic Party dissolves like the Whigs and their successor splinter Know Nothings did in the mid 19th century. Unless the Libertarians give up capitalistic feudalism there will always be a Republican Party - there's nothing we can do about that, but unless the public totally renounces the Democrats we will wither and die.
On to Biden since 1973
Disgusting!
Biden has turned out who we all thought he would be except with a meaner and more vindictive streak than even I expected. Trump ripped the mask off and apparently Biden is not even going to bother to pretend to put it back on.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
More from the same Twitter user
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
An angry old fart lecturing black people.
Maybe, just maybe blacks will now see how this man has used them for 40 years. Fortunately it appears the people who write for the Black Agenda Report have already figured Joe out.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
That tone was insulting.
After being talked down to, I have to wonder what those "civil rights leaders" must think about Biden and the democrats. No democrat that I am aware of ran on "defund the police". That is a corporatist talking point.
Truly amazing how white establishment democrats continually back stab their African American base. Jim Clyburn was thee person most responsible for Biden winning the nomination and he appoints Vislack over Clyburn's objections on the way he treated black farmers in Georgia.
This is just another nail in the proverbial coffin of the democratic party in the next elections in two years. African Americans as in 2016 will simply not show up.
To add, re: defund the police
When people are dying from an out of control pandemic and Nancy Pelosi refused to consider any financial support for the people because she thought it might give Trump a political win, I doubt that "defund the police" was the cause of Democratic losses. The Democrats owned it when Pelosi said "It ain't gonna happen."
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
biden as popeye:
I Yam what I yam...
that's all that I yam...
I'm Popeye the Milktoast Man.
while we don't know who was at his meeting with civil rights leaders aside from Rev Al and the head of the NAACP (iirc), nor perhaps what other Qs they may have asked, but were there none about Kamala the Camel as CA Queen of Incarceration, esp black males. bugger; i bingled for some history, mislaid the link except for this tweet:
now on the msn homepage this a.m. was a story about rev al having met with dementia joe, demanding that he name a black AG. then. sorta: 'or at least someone conversant with black civil rights'.
so far the buzz is: cuomo (ptui), merrick garland,
doug jones and former deputy AG sally yates, according to AP.