Extended Susan Sarandon interview - Hear her words in context (Previously: Well, this may well get me banned over there)
As requested, here's my attempt to repost here:
Here’s the extended interview:
It is not as black and white as some are representing it to be. And she’s certainly not calling for a Trump win: “Some people think Donald Trump will bring the revolution immediately — if he gets in then things will really explode… Some people feel that” by heightening the contradictions, Hayes suggests, and she nods. She’s not advocating that that’s the way to go.
Here’s the line to which folks are objecting when Hayes asks whom she’ll vote for if Bernie is not the nominee:
I don’t know, I’ll see what happens.
Here is what I hear as the explanation of her resistance to pledging her vote now to Secretary Clinton while Bernie is still in the race:
If you feel it’s pragmatic to shore the status quo right now, then you’re not in touch with the status quo. The status quo is not working. And I think it’s dangerous to think we can continue the way we are with the militarized police forces, with privatized prisons, with the death penalty, with the low minimum wage, with threats to womens’ rights and think that you can’t do something huge to turn that around because the country is not in good shape. If you’re in the middle class, it’s disappearing…
She is where I am. Fact is, Bernie is still in the race, and he stands for a different America than the course we are currently on. While he remains in the race, he’s my guy. In the event that he does not get the nomination, ask me THEN whom I will vote for as my second choice. That’s all Sarandon is saying. I agree with her. She’s refusing to buy into the current iteration of the inevitability meme which now says all American subjects must take a loyalty oath to Clinton prior to the contest being decided since it has been proclaimed from on high that she will be our candidate.
No thanks. I’ll stick with my guy until, like he has said, the last vote is cast. After that, I’ll be happy to discuss my second choice candidate in the event he is not our nominee.
In 2008, Clinton stayed in the race after any path to the White House for her had been ruled out. She apparently felt one path for her still remained: Her assertion was unreasonable and unconscionable. If she’s your candidate, remember she repudiated the PARTY UNITY argument last time around...
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Here's the link over there:
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/3/29/1507640/-Extended-Susan-Sarand...
UPDATE: Not banned as of yet...
Comments
Could you Crosspost?
I don't like to give TOP hits.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
I'm a rebel
Was raised to push back. Hard to tell what crosses the line these days.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Good post. Please cross post
Good post. Please cross post the content here as well as requested above. In fact, post it here first in the future so we can direct traffic here. I will up rate the post here once the content is here.
Amazed
at the butt hurt at TOS over Bernie and others telling the truth.
If he doesn't stop soon the coronation may be in danger.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Many of us at TOP are dancing on a wire now
and testing our seditious wings. So Fun, when it doesn't matter any more 'cause there is a new more comfortable home.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
Agreed - extremely liberating
Thanks for this space and you all in it!
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Good points.
As usual, Hillary's supporters picked and chose what Susan actually said. And I agree with her except for one thing. If Bernie doesn't win, I know for damned sure I will NOT vote for Hillary.
I am not voting for evil and I think Hillary, Bill and Obama have turned out to be the more evil, not lesser.
The trade deals that decimated the work force.
Deregulating the banks that decimated people's lives.
More wars than have decimated people's countries and killed over 250 thousand in Syria alone.
Hell no.
I am not voting for evil.
I hope you post it here so that those that don't want to go TOP see it. Great Post as i said.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
If I still lived
in a swing state, I would probably hold my nose and vote for her, but I might as well take advantage of the only good thing about living in a dark red state. If Bernie doesn't get the nomination, and nothing has changed in my feelings, I'll be writing him in.
We are not embracing a politics of envy if we reverse a politics of greed. - Joseph Stiglitz
Glad you did.
I recommended and tipped.
Love the edit feature!
dang! I was gonna vote for Bernie but Sarandon said something
that changes my entire political philosophy! I was for the people, I was in favor of single payer healthcare where the money was in the actual care and not the insurance profits. I was in favor of seeing college as an extension of high school, i.e. enabling everyone to get a college education without an incredible financial burden on them. I was in favor of a lot of stuff that Bernie says but geez....Susan Sarandon said she isn't sure if she'd vote for Hillary if Hillary wins the nomination and boy, oh boy, that's really turned me off Bernie! Because.......um.....er....uh...
This would be a great comment over there!
Nice job, Shah!
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Let me finish that thought...
I'm a fucking idiot. or
I'm as dishonest as Hillary. or
Sarandon says she doesn't like Hillary's shit sandwiches but I'd love one. YUMMMY! That'll show her! or
I think you're too stupid to know I'm completely full of shit. or
I don't like her tone either! or
Take you pick or come up with another one. One thing for sure, Hillary isn't an idiot but she may be a carrier.
To be completely clear Shahryar's comment was the essence of this morning's TOP diary Sarandon Just Lost Me For Bernie.
"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."
New Math
One Susan Sarandon > infinite number of charter members of the Great Orange Lemming Horde (i.e, Kossacks For Klinton).
What a contrast between Susan busting her butt for Sanders out on the hustings, showing up in out of the way places, participating in caucuses, etc., versus George and Amal Clooney sitting like royalty at the head table at some tech billionaire's gaudy mansion, hosting a $353,000 a plate fundraiser for Hillary.
But not to worry, Hillary will always be the tireless champion of the little folk. I know, because the Great Orange Lemming Horde told me so!
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It was a great interview
Susan Sarandon cut right through the b.s. Kudos to Chris Hayes for putting her on his show.
Here's the link in case you haven't seen it:
http://on.msnbc.com/1PC54k1
"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."
Thanks for the link!
I'd have missed the interview otherwise. Susan is so well informed. It's an absolute pleasure to hear her speak.
"Long term: first the rich get mean, then the poor get mean, and the rest is history." My brother Rob.
I vote for Susan Sarandan!
Maybe she should be vp or sos in Bernie's administration.
Sarandon really puts herself out there.
She is fearless.
O.k. When is the next meeting for the revolution?
-FuturePassed on Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:22 p.m.
Thanks for updating with the
Thanks for updating with the full post! I did rec over at dk as well. It's a good post.
Do you remember the reason Clinton gave
for staying in the primary?
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLNFsl130_Y]
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Olbermann is brilliant here.
Too few were bothered by her saying this.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
My god, at Donna Edwards' HQ
You could feel the oxygen sucked out of the room. I looked around the room and saw the same sick look on everybody's face and realized I wasn't the only one who had been scared Obama would be assassinated.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver