That nationwide labor strike? Looks like we're going to have it
Just not the way we expected to. Washington state is ahead of the rest of the nation.
Gov. Jay Inslee will sign an emergency proclamation Monday, limiting restaurants to take-out and delivery service only and closing all bars, entertainment and recreation facilities in Washington, the governor's office announced Sunday.
The national labor strike, it turns out, will start with those least able to survive it.
There’s no federal requirements for paid sick leave in the U.S., and restaurants and delivery services are notoriously hostile to shift workers calling in sick. In 2015, Whitney Filloon wrote for Eater that a vast majority of food workers will work while they’re ill, with 45 percent saying they “can’t afford to lose pay.” Recently, writer Lauren Hough tweeted about “how many service industry workers will continue going to work” throughout the pandemic because they won’t get paid otherwise;
Those who can't afford it are the ones going on involuntary strike first. many are already self quarantining and we've all seen the food disappear off the shelves.
All for the purpose of stopping an ICU peak. But is that even a thing? ITALY! ITALY! ITALY! is the new Russia when it comes to trying to rationalize this panicdemic. The thing is, Italy is a bad example. They have so many factors working against them. The oldest population in Europe. Bad pollution. And they've been under-funding their universal healthcare system. It's the worst in Europe.
The continuous cuts—to care and to research—are obviously a problem right now,” Casani says. “We were not prepared. We do not have enough doctors for the people. We do not have an organized plan for pandemics.
They don't have enough beds....for the 9,000 diagnosed or the 500 deaths? That tells a different story than "deadly virus overwhelms hospitals" Those numbers say "Italy lacks healthcare workers".
Remember, 10,000 died in the U.S. in January of the normal flu and that's a normal death toll. Yet U.S. hospitals weren't overflowing and peaked out.
Coronavirus has killed 6000 worldwide since December and yet we're to believe that this is overwhelming the systems in Italy, China and elsewhere when those numbers pale in comparison to the deaths from regular flu worldwide?
Are literally dwarfed by those numbers? Then consider these numbers:
In 2017 900,000 people were hospitalized in the U.S. for influenza. 75,000 per month average, but of course, it peaks in certain months so over 100,000 per peak month.
Yet we didn't have any "peak" hospital emergency. We didn't have to "flatten out" the peak to save lives. We had beds. We had doctors, nurses, etc. 80,000 died yet no quarantines, no shut downs, no pandemic scare.
Now about that Italy again. 9000 cases, not 900,000. 500 dead, not 80,000. Yet their medical system totally overwhelmed? My inner skeptic thinks Cointelpro, ie, fake news.
In the end, Coronavirus will turn out to be a big nothingburger. The involuntary labor strike, however....
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And of course Biden hit Bernie
at the debate with this "fact" about Italy and their universal health care. "Look Bernie, Italy has universal health care, and it did nothing to help THEM during this virus crisis!" Of course, Bernie gave no reply...only stood by politely...for "his friend."
Well done is better than well said-Ben Franklin
Wow
Maybe you need to visit some doctors on the front lines before you recklessly write about "panicdemics" and "fakenews"?
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
My Sister works for a hospital
And stopping an ICU peak is a "thing".
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
We are on an exponential rise in cases
The curve is flat on a log scale, that means exponential growth. We are looking at a tenfold increase every 14 days, 100 fold in 28 days. We are at 100,000 cases outside of China globally. That's 10 million in one month and 1 billion in two months. Even if the curve flattens the numbers are spectacular. Take a good look at the graphs of total cases and deaths. The top of those curves are so steep that it makes your eyes water. This is not the flu, this is an epic, historical human pandemic. Expect the US to be shut down this week in the hope of slowing this thing down.
Capitalism has always been the rule of the people by the oligarchs. You only have two choices, eliminate them or restrict their power.
Denial is not helpful.
We here in the US are in for a bumpy ride, to put it mildly. There is no upside to delaying recognizing that we do, in fact, face a serious problem and that there are steps that CAN be taken by each one of us to mitigate the severity and mortality rates.
The situation in Italy is not fake news, and comparing it to a political disinformation campaign is ludicrous.
“The story around the world gives a silent testimony:
— The Beresovka mammoth, frozen in mud, with buttercups in his mouth…..”
The Adam and Eve Story, Chan Thomas 1963
Sorry to pile on here
But count me among those who think you are completely wrong with your assumptions. I understand the cynicism and mistrust. I've been reading about this since late January and it took me a while to believe. Unfortunately, this is the real deal.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
Thanks for the heads up on Washington restaurants
But failing to understand the math here will get people killed.
As a mathematician by training I am reminded of a joke: There are two kinds of people in the world - those who understand compound interest and those who pay it. The situation here is much the same but the stakes are both more deadly and more social.
Here is another video by an acquaintance of mine that I haven’t seen posted here.
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
These are pretty good visual models...
looking a spread under different scenarios with moving graphics...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/?utm...
Here are the outcomes...
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Yale Study
Since October 2019, in the US, there have been 34 million cases of flu with 20,000 deaths. With Covid, 34 million cases would result in 340,000 deaths. And those numbers don't include the fact that Covid is far more contagious than flu. If we don't get a handle on it, the deaths in USA, will run to well over a million people. There just is a difference between flu and Covid and it is an unhappy difference.
I may be wrong, but the numbers still don't add up.
2017 US: 900,000 hospitalized.
2020 Italy: 9,000 diagnosed, not hospitalized.
Population of Italy: @60 million
Population of U.S.: @300 million
So imagine if in the U.S. there had been 45,000 diagnosed - again, not hospitalized - and suddenly the system was overwhelmed and ran out of beds. They've had beds for over ONE HUNDRED TIMES what overwhelmed Italy and no one noticed.
The first question is: Given the small number of cases in a country the size of Italy, why did it get overwhelmed? 9,000, even if hospitalized, should not overwhelm their system.
The numbers don't add up.
Look, I know we tend to be skeptical about things here a C99
But we are looking at numbers in the millions of potentially infected people. The time has come to take extraordinary measures. It's one thing to suffer economic consequences, but an entirely different matter to be critically ill in a hospital that looks like a battlefield.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Variables to be considered length of time in ICU bed and
COVID-19 (Coronavirus) patients are requiring a high degree of respiratory (lung) support, including the use of respirators. This requires more staff time, a higher level bed (ICU & CCU), longer time period of time in a high acuity bed and then sent for a time to a regular hospital bed. For long term respiratory support a few skilled nursing homes have been treating stabilized patients. Unusually post accident that require months or years of ventilator treatment. Risk of infecting healthcare worker high.
Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.
Regarding hospital beds...
I am not "optimistic" like you that this pandemic is fake news. Also, Italy has more hospital beds than the US (Italy 3.17, US 2.77 per 1000 pop, 2016)
Gee maybe if the media hadn't spent the last 3 years lying to us
people might be taking this a tad more seriously. I understand why people are skeptical of what we're being told and wondering if things are going to get as bad as it's being talked about.
Another reason for this is because of who is getting bailed out. The banks have been getting it for months already and now airlines and other hospitality industries are lining up while congress dithers and sprinkles a few things for us rubes.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
China shows COVID-19 Coronavirus can be ‘stopped in its tracks’