Election Fraud is real. Time to #DemExit
Submitted by Steven D on Tue, 03/10/2020 - 9:48pm
I did not support #DemExit before tonight. But I just got off the phone with my 24 year old daughter. She's depressed as hell by what we all see, because they are not bothering to hide it anymore. I could not promise her things will get better, because they won't. We do not have a democracy, we have an #oligarchy and when shit hits the fan (as it will sooner than later), our nation will become another dictatorship or military junta. So, I'm done with the party system, because we only have one party - the party for and by the rich. I'm abandoning the Democratic party because it abandoned us for corporate cash decades ago. That's all I have to say. End of story.
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I hope people do it
Democrats just told us to bend over and hold the Vaseline. But if these polls are true then my sigline is true more than ever.
Hey people your candidate dropped out over a week ago.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
The Michigan SoS
" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "
I've looked at the California numbers
reporting that 82% is in. If so then Biden would need to get 67% of the remaining votes. He's currently at 27%. What are the odds that such a huge number of Biden votes would now come in? Zero, of course. There's no chance of it and Bernie has won California. But CNN, for one, is still refusing to call it for him. They had no problem calling Michigan, though, with something like 18% in.
Perhaps Bernie will hold on and win Washington. We'll see. Tulsi has over 8,500 votes so far. If we were to emulate the Hillbots we'd be screaming at her, saying she hurt Bernie!!!! But we don't do that because we're more aware.
I was surprised to see Tulsi get .4% in Mississippi.
Interesting turn of phrase there
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
DemExited2016
" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "
I Dem-Exited in 2016. I early voted in the
Georgia primary, but the Vote Blue No Matter Who people will probably carry the day by fair means or foul. Most likely foul.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
"Vote Blue No Matter Who" is plenty foul already
This is interesting
.
If even half of the young voters stay home or vote third party Biden's toast. But will he even have to run against Trump? If they cancel the upcoming debate then why wouldn't they rig the general ones so Joe just doesn't get the chance to show what's happening to him?
Clyburn is telling democrats to just cancel the primary altogether. Go for it.
ETA
Ya think?
General strike for those who can afford it. But what can the older generation do to help? Yellow vests?
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Stay home.
Hubby is on spring break this week and wondering if his university will even be open next week. Kinda hard to do lab work online.
This shit is bananas.
Would like to ask you to write an essay
on that idea, going into more detail.
I was impressed, when Greta appeared, that it became more difficult to get past caring parents (hers and others) to harm her message. How would you enforce no non-appearing?
Not sure what you mean
I really don't know what else I could say that hasn't already been said dozens of times. It's an idea, maybe the best we've got right now. The problem is how do we get enough people on board for it to actually be an effective tactic? Being forced through economic collapse isn't ideal.
This shit is bananas.
I didn't say that very clearly
but the idea others have mentioned here about staying home (if possibe) and buying nothing (especially from corporate owned interests) still seems worth strengthening.
No-action as action might be more difficult to shut down.
Can you afford it?
The majority can not. That's the plan.
We will all see exceptionalism wither and die as it should.
All greater and lessor nations succumb to the belief that they are the greatest.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
I would give strikers food.
I would give everything I had to them, since I won't need it that much longer (age is the thing!)and I have no children or family, other than a crazy fun brother.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Hey...
C99, my refuge from an insane world. #ForceTheVote
I'm not working
I bet there are some people who can afford to strike. Or do some of the things Danny mentions.
Of course this generation is going as planned. From Reagan destroying unions, Clinton's deregulation of banks, NAFTA etc.., Biden's bankruptcy bill that made it so people couldn't discharge debts especially student ones, Bush doing what he did and Obama doing what he did it's all been planned for decades. The new deal is almost totally rescinded.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Also, underground economy anyone?
In regard to the bankruptcy bill, an amusing comment I saw on FB: Take out a personal loan, pay off your student loan with it THEN file bankruptcy!
This shit is bananas.
Don't you mean barter?
I refuse to supply a corrupt government with taxes.
Some I can't avoid like property and sales taxes. But why should I give them a cut of my income?
Barter is better baby.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
That might work for some things
This shit is bananas.
Most who are looking
for housing, education and health care are already SOL.
Many have something to offer but nobody is offering.
I do.
I even trade for eggs.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Well apparently
This shit is bananas.
You strike, I provide the yellow vest.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Any brandy come with the deal?
If so you're on.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
We have red vests in our cars' emergency kits in Germany
for free, should I UPS them to you?
https://www.euronews.com/live
Thanks for this thread, Steven. Can't help
you Guys, 'cause we did that (Demexited) in 2004. (in response to the Dem Party PtB scr*wing over Howard Dean)
Seriously, just heard that Bernie won't be speaking this evening. Makes me wonder if the Dem Party Leadership isn't pressuring him to drop out, immediately, or, soon after the upcoming Debate.
Since Bernie and Tulsi signed a Dem Party Pledge, I'm 'wondering' if they'd risk being sued by the DNC if either/both of them decided to lodge a third party run. If only they would get together, and form their own Independent Party ticket.
What do you, or, other attorneys think? I posted a PDF copy of 'the Pledge' here a couple weeks ago, and thought it sounded relatively stringent. (to a non-legal mind, that is) Sorry, just searched, and couldn't turn it up. Obviously, it's somewhere in my comments, but, it's a bit late for me to dig it up this evening. Maybe tomorrow. (Or, maybe no one would even need to read it, to know.)
Sorry about your young daughter's deep disappointment. Hope she plans to stay in the movement, to fight another day. It's young people like her that are our best, if not only, hope.
Mollie
“This above all: to thine own self be true
And it must follow, as the night the day
Thou canst not then be false to any man . . ."
~~William Shakespeare
“Every time I lose a dog, he takes a piece of my heart. Every new dog gifts me with a piece of his. Someday, my heart will be total dog, and maybe then, I will be just as generous, loving, and forgiving.”
~~Author Unknown
“The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.”
~~George Bernard Shaw
Irish Dramatist & Socialist (1856-1950)
WhiskerDocs
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
I think there are two issues
If Sanders had wanted to run 3rd party he should have started right after the 2016 Dem convention, and I'd expect that even if he had there'd be no shortage of roadblocks thrown up in 50 states plus territories, all of which get to have their own rules on who gets on a ballot.
Sanders bet on the Dem party, and if that turns out to be a rigged game, he'll lose with it. Of course, if he had run as 3rd party this time what are the chances of there being even more of a media blackout/attack than he faced as a Dem?
He did the only thing he could
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
a frightening thought
what is the worse possible pick? I'd say Bloomberg. Well, Hillary of course, but then Bloomberg. With the thought in mind that the VP would become President...man, they better pick someone we can stomach? live with? won't make us take arms?
I doubt they care
whether we can stomach their pick.
"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi
"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone
They don't care
or Bernie would be winning.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
They
don't know which is why Bernie is losing.
Or he'll step down at the convention.
And they'll parachute someone else in.
Why waste an opportunity to train Americans to accept party fiat?
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I think they're a little nervous about this.
“The loyal Left cannot act decisively. Their devotion to the system is a built-in kill switch limiting dissent.” - Richard Moser
I think they want to get us used to it.
There's a number of things they're trying to get us used to.
Exit polls meaning nothing. Polls in general meaning nothing. Election fraud meaning nothing. Campaigning for an unapproved candidate meaning election fraud.
I would be surprised if they pass a chance like this up. But they may, of course.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
At the very least
he would have had a chance.
Now he has closed the book on that possibility. I sincerly doubt he will support a third party run against the dem establishment in 2024. He is, after all, now a democrat. His independent signature is finished with myself and many.
Enjoy the suck.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Don't get me wrong
After all, things were looking very promising for Sanders as a Dem just a few short weeks ago, but talk about stopping on a dime and getting 9 cents change it all went downhill (or was pushed downhill) very quickly.
The Dem Establishment is full of rats, and I suspect they were starting to feel cornered. There's an old saying about dealing with cornered rats, and it looks like it applies here. Like Sanders, the Dems will do what they think they have to do.
I find it interesting that with about 80% reporting it looks like Biden has gotten about 80% of the Mississippi votes. I'd think that the typical MS D-voter would probably benefit a lot from what Sanders was proposing, but I guess they didn't see things the way I did.
I don't think
Either way, I expect a Trump win in the General. GOP will hack the machines in the states they need to win. They did it in 2004.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
Trump 2020
In 2020, they won't need to. If Joe Biden gets the nomination, Trump won't even need to campaign much, just have the campaign staff glean embarrassing cuts from Biden's campaign clips. We'll get "four more years", no problemo.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
The pledge you posted is
in this comment from you:
here
.
It triggered a comment from me I won't repost, but basically I have still the same thoughts about it.
https://www.euronews.com/live
If they tried to enforce that now, they'd be forced to show
that they haven't been working to rig the primaries. They couldn't use that sorry previous court case to hide behind, because enforcing the above nonsense requires that they upheld their side of it in good faith, which they clearly haven't and never intended to do.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
The sorry previous court case --
“The loyal Left cannot act decisively. Their devotion to the system is a built-in kill switch limiting dissent.” - Richard Moser
You are spot on. If this was to be interpreted as a contract
then it could be shown that they breached the terms of the contract first, not Bernie. Plus, the discovery process would be fun.
Welcome to the party.
We need a new one yesterday.
Times run out. You either believe that things must change quickly, or you eat dust.
Mother Nature waits for none.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Is the MSM THAT powerful?
Can someone enlighten me about the media ads that Biden's pacs and super pacs have been running in the primary states? Frequency, content, etc. How much have they been spenging?
Bernie has jumbo rallies and Joe can barely fill a classroom. Bernie speaks for an hour and Joe reads a teleprompter for seven minutes.
Why are 34% of Washington State voters voting for candidates that have dropped out? And why the hell are any Democrats voting for a man that has advocated cuts to Social Security for decades and championed the Iraq War before, during, and after, along with praising GWB for "getting it done?"
Washington has early voting, too
a friend of mine voted for Warren two weeks ago.
Washington State is worse
than the early voting states. It's an all mail-in ballot state.
For a very long time, absentee ballots were used by the most conservative CA voters or they were the easiest ballots to rig in various ways. This was never tolerable imo, but way back then, only a small minority used absentee ballots and voters needed a legitimate reason for needing to vote absentee. Most voters preferred to vote after the campaigns were completed.
Governments like early voting, absentee ballots, and all mail-in ballots because they're too freaking cheap to hold elections. IOW, we can't afford even this small aspect of democracy.
Unlike an mail-in primary ballots, at least caucus voters can move to a second or third choice when their first choice isn't viable. Perhaps WA voters will now recognize that all mail-in primary ballots are a very bad idea unless it's a ranked choice ballot.
With any apologies necessary...
Most folks I know wait until voting day and hand deliver their ballots for the other reasons you mentioned. It is a good system. I think if the whole country voted like Oregon, we would probably be looking at a very different outcome tonight.
Still needs ranked-choice for totally corrupt situations
like this one, where most of the candidates held hands and jumped ship at a word from the DNC.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Strong agree on ranked choice...
My CA mail-in ballot
Voters who rushed to mail in their ballots and voted for a now defunct candidate can learn from their mistakes about taking a few extra days to think things over. Mail in is not perfect, but it has fewer downsides than most other methods. And cost effective. No stupid voting machines to figure out or which could break down (see CA this year). No waiting in long lines.
And it's far better than the stupid, clunky caucus system, which was fine back in the day when it was a small-scale affair held in people's living rooms. Nowadays, it's a form of voter suppression -- how many people have 2-3 hours to spend hanging around in a gym to vote or would want to spend their time that way?
powerful MSM
Yes.
Most Americans still get their news from print and broadcast (or online sites owned by the same monopolies). Independent broadcasters, when and where they exist, are nearly all virulently right-wing propaganda outlets like Rush Limbaugh's "
ExcrementExcellence in Broadcasting" or fully owned Bible thumping subsidiaries of the Religious Reich. And genuinely independent print outlets are extinct for all practical intents and purposes.Because they are the same kind of unthinking neoconservative/neoliberal boneheads that the rest of the Democrapic Party are nationwide.
At the risk of repeating myself,
.....because they are the same kind of unthinking neoconservative/neoliberal boneheads that the rest of the Democrapic Party are nationwide.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Rare disagreement.
They are that powerful in relation to those who watch them. Most people under 50 don't watch them. Most of their viewers are 60 and over. That leaves most of America out.
The other power they have--and it's, to coin a term, YUGE--is that they get to "call" elections. Or not.
But if you're talking about "How on earth did all those people vote for Joe Biden? Why did all those people vote for candidates who are no longer in the race?" the answer is "They didn't."
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
"They didn't" is exactly right.
How we respond to this is key.
Do we believe in the system, or not? That is the question.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I'm stumped. Right now the DNC is like B. Maddoff. Everyone
around him was making money. And he had everyone fooled into believing that he was a revered authority and that he was looking out for their financial best interests.
Until the mask comes off these assholes I am at a loss.
MSM
The online sites most of the under-50 crowd use for news -- MSDNC, Fox, RedState, Daily Kos, and anything having to do with Facebook or Twitter in any way -- are just as bad as broadcast, if not worse. They're just as MSM as ABC News is.
Were online news outlets meeting their vaunted promise of fairness in reporting, a certain Joe Shikspack and gjohnsit would be "calling" those elections.
Sure they did. The Traitor States delivered for the fscking conservas in 2020 just like they did in 2016. HerHeinous then, Biden now. And it was older Black Evangelicals who did it; they'd vote for David Duke himself before allowing any Jew (emphasis on the "eww!") anywhere near the Oval Office.
(Needless to say, if you have direct evidence of actual skulduggeries, do please direct us to such, subito!)
And you're correct; disagreements between us are rare!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
If I had direct evidence, beyond what's already been posted
I would have already posted it.
What I have is my logic and experience as a campaign staffer.
I don't mean that to be snippy. I'll be writing about this later.
We're shifting into bunker mode down here. Be as careful as you can, those of you who can't stay in. Dr. John Campbell is a godsend.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
google search has made mainstream media even more powrful
Duckduckgo sometimes returns the same results, but often they do not and typically return results which are closer to may request.
One of the major
I doubt if many voters are aware of Joe's long track record on SS/Medicare cuts or favoring bad trade agreements costing US jobs, or his record of blatantly lying about his record, and so on. They get one or two headline pieces of information about him, or watch a snippet of coverage on the teevee, and that is the extent of their knowledge.
There was a telling Status Coup video a couple days ago where two local MI women, both former military, were interviewed at a Biden rally and told a few things about Joe -- e.g. his lying about being arrested over apartheid, and SS/Medicare cuts -- and both were unfamiliar with those facts that are well known to everyone on this board. This I'm afraid is a good example of what I see as the all too common typical voter out there. We are in our little bubble here, with our elite knowledge level, and there's probably a tendency to extrapolate that high information level to the rest of the populace, but that is a big mistake.
Agree, but
those on the left, myself included, took our eyes off the bouncing ball. In 2015 as most people kept saying that Trump won't get the nomination, I kept pointing out that he'd been leading in all the polls since July and was doing very well in the debates. If he kept slogging it out, he would defy all those professional and blogger pundits and win the nomination. (After that those same people began chanting that he can't win the general election unaware of the fact that conservatively Trump was only short by one state as early as September 2016.)
Biden had been leading in the polls for several months longer than Trump did in 2015. I puzzled over that and his weak fundraising and limited campaigning among the general public and limited ground operation. That differed from Trump who had been all over the place and held large rallies and in the early going was self-funded, but like Biden, he didn't have a ground operation. Lack of boots on the ground led to Trump falling short in Iowa, but Biden fell far short there this time and further short in NH. I and maybe others took this as confirmation that we'd been right to take our eyes off the ball -- Biden's poll numbers.
We were dead wrong. And should have known better because the NV DP can pull a trigger for a favored candidate and that the SC DP machine is really solid and strong. Should have known that the DP wasn't going to coalesce around any one of their own that had weak polling numbers (single digits with no consistent upticks) or obvious handicaps, apparently that doesn't include dementia. From September on, the DP only had three horses in the race, and in a worst case for them scenario, they could find their way to accepting Warren (and it's plausible that her Clinton retread staffers told her that if she cut further into Sanders support). It was never going to be Pete and Amy had but one bounce out of single digits (NH) and immediately dropped again. Outside of IA and NH, Joe still had polling leads in many places and was competitive with Sanders in others.
Don't you know why?
Maybe I'll write an essay on this--from a former campaign staffer's perspective.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
The sheep dogging has started.
Ugh.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Here we go again.
sigh...
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
I like him, but..
he's just weak.
They all have their beltway connections to think about if they lose, so therefore a pissing match with Neera Tanden about Club D loyalty is still more important right now than rallying the morale of the movement they are purporting to lead.
Same goes for Bernie.
The BIGGEST issue right now is the collusion of the party establishment and the rigging of the primary in EVERY state. But apparently the stripping of hundreds of thousands of his supporters' fundamental right to vote isn't as important as hurting his good Buddy Joe's fee fees or calling out the Dem establishment for the crooks they truly are.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
fee fees
.....or, more importantly, stop the uber-rich class's remission of their fee-fees to their wholly owned state and federal officials ......
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
I have a sinking feeling...
that the Bernie campaign is about to do something really stupid.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Yep.
Same thing he did last time. Only worse. I hope I'm wrong.
"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi
"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone
So it's all about the gravy train
with Sirota, et al, too. So much for principles.
"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi
"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone
David Sirota isn't a sheepdog.
He's obviously a sheep.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Remember Bernie Sanders' slogan:
Our task, then, is to identify the points at which people we might otherwise respect are basically saying "not us, me." Thus when Sirota says, "I helped elect a Dem congressman & governor and am married to a Dem legislator," that's his "not us, me" moment.
“The loyal Left cannot act decisively. Their devotion to the system is a built-in kill switch limiting dissent.” - Richard Moser
@Cassiodorus excellent point!
C99, my refuge from an insane world. #ForceTheVote
Well put, Cass.
And we'll see at the debate whether Bernie has his.
He needs to gut his old pal Biden like a fish on Sunday. If Bernie is personally unwilling to do that, he will be doing his campaign and the movement a grave harm.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Very good.
We need a new slogan.
Not Bernie. Us.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Is it sheepdogging
Or is he keeping his livelihood alive?
Edit: I see someone already brought that up with the Not Us, Me point.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Vote Trump
Someone nailed it here by saying that if Trump wins it only sets us back 4 years, but if Biden wins it'll set us back decades because it will kill the progressives.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
@snoopydawg When the progressives
CNN just did a weird thing
I'm at their Washington results page. For some reason they arbitrarily added 2,000 votes for Biden to put him ahead.
Then they removed them so now Bernie is showing at about +1900. But what would get them to add those votes in the first place? I'm trying to understand if someone just put their elbow on the keyboard accidentally...or if they're just "fooling around" or what.
In Texas...
they started reporting the vote count and when it hit 20% of precincts it reset to 0% and started again.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Washington State has apparently
decided that counting approximately 69% of the ballots is good enough. No updates reported for more than thirty minutes.
Liberal central - King County has Bernie leading by less than 5,000 votes.
King County is where the Uber Rich also live Bezos, Gates
@Marie The reporting on this
Bernie has cause to revoke whatever agreement he made to stump for the corporate shill the DNC ultimately selects.
You think it was arbitrary?
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Practice?
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I don't know about the military junta thing.
Places where they have a military junta are places with traditions of dictatorship. The US is pretty much an oligarchy that has always been an oligarchy. Our tradition is to "have elections," then rich people move in and buy everything up.
We're unlikely to have a Führer like they had in Germany after 1/30/1933. The people who created Hitler's first government (especially Franz von Papen and Kurt von Schleicher) did not respect democracy at all, and longed for the days of the Prussian monarchy. They worked with the Weimar Constitution, which offered plenty of opportunities for rule by decree. The US constitution is a blueprint for oligarchy, to be sure, but it's far less flimsy than the constitution Hitler abolished. Dictatorship, then, was a relatively easy thing for these people to establish, and Adolf Hitler was just the man to do just that.
Hitler, for his part, had already revealed his plans in Mein Kampf, published in 1925. Papen, Schleicher, Hindenburg and the gang ignored these plans because they were arrogant idiots. Donald Trump, by contrast, is merely full of Republican boilerplate, anti-immigrant, and anti-environmentalist hysteria. It's going to get really bad, but there's no parallel in the US with the sort of dictatorship which has proliferated elsewhere.
“The loyal Left cannot act decisively. Their devotion to the system is a built-in kill switch limiting dissent.” - Richard Moser
The pathetic truth:
I'm out.
I suspected, even commented numerous times, that they would NEVER allow Bernie to be the nominee. I hoped to be wrong, but, alas, here we go.
I'm out. Not paying attention anymore. Last night, Mr. RA looked at results and said flatly, I'm not voting. Welcome to the club, said I. Fuck this shit.
As Daenerys commented above - let's resist via our own boycotts. Don't buy what you don't need. Use cash, make cash to avoid paying taxes, etc.
If Bernie doesn't drop out, I suspect he is waiting to see if Joementia will make it to the convention. If Joementia makes it, he might be replaced by her heinous. Perhaps Bernie will wait to see what happens. If that happens, I do suspect we will see some sort of revolution.
Van Jones was spot on - where will the supporters go? He knows.
I demexited many years ago - 2006 or so. The corporate party lost me.
edited to add: I'm currently on my Sec of State web site removing myself from the voting rolls. I'm REALLY done.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Why would they hide it?
They won the court case last time, walking away with the right to run a fraudulent election all they want. And then, Perez was elected chair. Of course there is going to be fraud.
The only way out of this is with a new party that progressives control.
In 1985
I was 32 and married a man 18 years older than me. He had been around - even worked for the State Department of Education in DC and went all over the world. Anyway, when the 1986 mid-term elections came rolling around, I asked him who he was going to vote for. He said he didn't vote. I asked him why. He said because it doesn't do any good - they do what they want anyway and put in who they want. I rejected his analysis.
He died in 1987 and I went on blindly voting. No more. My dearest Tom Chastain was right - they do what they want and put in who they want. I'm done.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Ouch, that hurts
disbelieving in the american dream
has become our route to sanity.
Sucks more people can't wake up
from this nightmare.
question everything
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