@snoopydawg

And she didn’t even get a plurality of the remaining states. CA voters are people to, but they are not the only people.

Holier than thou. Jfc if that's how people see Bernie then it's them that has the problem!

Oh look here's Bernie being holier than thou because he understands why people voted for Trump.

Bernie gives a perfect, thoughtful, courageous answer here that no serious person could dispute.

Which is why the @NYTimes will almost certainly not endorse him. pic.twitter.com/jASaw4qRnz

— Plain Ol' Johnny Graz (@jvgraz) January 17, 2020

Gawd I'm sick of the blue checks lecturing people to put this Warren Bernie thing behind them because there are children in cages. Like locking kids in cages didn't happen during Obama's tenure. Don't lecture me on something that I have no way to change. Not one democrat has spoken out recently about the kids being separated from their parents and being locked up. If this bothered democrats as much as they pretended it did a year ago then they could have added it to their articles of impeachment. That they didn't tells me that they really don't give a damn.

And F this meme.

“We should be weakening Donald Trump, not each other,” Shumlin said. “I’m concerned that we’re seeing a replay of the kind of dynamics that didn’t allow Hillary to win.”

As Hillbots love to tell everyone Hillary got 3 million more votes than Trump did so I don't see how sexism played any role in her loss. Nor Russians or Jill Stein.

But you know who is to blame for Trump being president? Hillary and the DNC because they rigged the primary and polls showed that Bernie would have beat him. This is on them. Period!

@doh1304 Shumlin's 'lead airplane'

I endured this sleaze -- and Le Frog is correct, he's a sleaze -- as "my" governor. Same guy who endorsed HRC over his fellow Vermonter when not a single Vermont delegate went for Her.

Hey, Peter, crawl back under your rock. No one misses you.

but when Vermont passed a single payer bill Shumlin threw up his hands, cried that he couldn't figure out a way to fund it, and killed it. At the time I thought that he had the obvious problem any state - especially a small state - would have. Many Vermonters work in Massachusetts and Rhode Island, thus they would have employer provided insurance. They would have to pay (or at least have to accept lower pay for) insurance and pay for Vermont's single payer as well. Also, since IT professionals working in Boston would have to pay taxes to insure grocery baggers in Burlington class resentment would exacerbate. Politically the winner is to deny rather than provide. Pander to the 70 - 90th percentile rather than provide for the bottom 70%
Health care has to be nationwide. Vermont (and I think Colorado) proved it. Or they proved that we had to overcome corruption first.

@wokkamile Chittenden County is lib-leaning, but as the joke goes, "The best thing about Burlington is that it's so close to Vermont."

Rural Vermonters tend to lean libertarian/conservative. Bernie is the only pol who has consistently reached across that split-rail pasture fence and won their support. Why? Because he leaves his office and visits them, and proves that he's listening.

VT pol, but that state has produced a very mixed bag of Dem pols. Bernie on one side, then Shumlin, formerly progressive Howard Dean now turned neolibcon, and the mumbling profile in political timidity Sen Pat Leahy.

My two cents. A lib-leaning state like VT should be producing better progressive pols, even though it has only 800k residents and has to occasionally import a good pol from NY.

@wokkamile Then again, modern politics is all about getting people to vote for candidates who don’t support their issues so maybe that voter is just ahead of the curve.

with the actual voters and see what they're thinking. A voter in Iowa for instance

Very often the reasoning voters express for their candidate preferences is just 100% random and there’s nothing you can do about it https://t.co/30Dj77HrJh

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) January 16, 2020

Good that I don't keep a gun in the house, and am not a naturally violent and self-destructive person.

@Wally
Sanders, Warren, and Klobachar opens the skies for Bydone.
The Billionaires Boys Club is busy trying to out bid each other.
The Republicans will probably streeeeach this out to guarantee a Bydone candidacy, a sure loser to Trump.
Stupid Pelosi.

Sen. Bernie Sanders: "I would rather be in Iowa today... I would rather be in New Hampshire and in Nevada and so forth, but I swore a Constitutional oath as United States senator to do my job and I'm here to do my job." pic.twitter.com/7BJYSXvs8q

— The Hill (@thehill) January 16, 2020

@MsDidi @MsDidi @MsDidi @MsDidi I'm glad I listened to the whole thing before I shared it on Facebook and still would post it there if I could cut off the last ten or so minutes where it turns into a gushing beatification of Hillary 'War monger/grifter' Clinton. She would've been a "great President"?

At the beginning Moore talks about how he had continually heard things from Warren that he just put out of his mind, 'burying his head in the sand' was the metaphor he chose but with this betrayal he snapped out of it.
But regarding glorious Hillary where was his head parked so often because Hillary makes Warren almost sound like Bernie Sanders, did he miss the destruction of Libya and Hillary's chuckling 'we came we saw he died", maybe he missed the CNN report of slave markets now operating there.

How about the coup in Colombia, the cheating of Bernie Sanders in the Primaries, Hillary using the State dept as a personal 'cash cow' and as a vehicle for spreading fracking around the world?

I've barely touched the list of examples available and it's hard to believe his head was so deep in the sand he missed them all, no one could hold their breath that long. These things were all over social media, but then maybe he has periodic blindness and deafness too.
I think the word for this is 'selective' attention, at best.

One thing I must point out is Michael Moore saying the egregious lie that Wikileaks hacked Hillary's emails which helps feed the attacks on Julian Assange and Chelsea Manning.
Btw does anyone have any handy quotes by Michael Moore regarding Julian Assange and/or Chelsea Manning?

Yes his spots on MSDNC are assured, I think especially when he joined in with the other commentators smearing Tulsi Gabbard, nodding right along with them (Joy Reed, Brian Williams,Clair McCaskill,and some guy that promoted Sarah Palin)

Michael Moore Joins MSNBC’s McCarthy Smears Of Tulsi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwmFRReGUco

The hashtag 'LyingLiz' has been trending but I would also suggest 'Lizard Liz' or just 'Liz-ard'.
First she was for Medicare for All -- before she was against it.
Now she loudly proclaims that she supports the Affordable Care Act -- this seems to have become a litmus test within the Dem Establishment. The ACA leaves the private insurance industry intact and has no cost controls -- so it timidly provided access to care that people can't afford. But she supports it now.
Turns out saying, "I'm with Bernie" didn't quite work because ... well, there is Bernie himself to vote for.
Now she has decided to be the "bridge" between the Progressives and the traditional voters supporting Biden. Good luck with that one Liz -- uh, there is Biden.
I found it particularly helpful to listen to Michael Moore's podcast, "The Sad Downfall of Elizabeth Warren." He tearfully explains that he's overlooked too many of her lies - because he thought she was truly a Progressive.
And he reminds this that on her job app to Harvard, she listed her race as "American Indian." Even though she is less than 1/1000th Indian.
Read the Boston Herald article about her lies.
As Michael Moore says, centrism and identity politics will lead to Trump's re-election -- but then the DNC would rather see Trump re-elected than to allow Bernie to defeat him. It's all about class solidarity in the end.
Warren was a Republican, voted for Bush, Reagan and Nixon -- for most of her life. And she's the only girl from Mayberry -- with a real Aunt Bea -- who got hired at Harvard and earned millions as a consultant -- while also realizing that it might not have been popular to be a Republican in her newfound role.
LizardLiz -- the chameleon who can't change her stripes fast enough to conceal her own past.

@Bob In Portland I did, which is one of the reasons why I too called her 'Fauxahontas' and 'Liawatha' (I'm 1/4 NA) to the outrage of my (fellow) white friends. She's a fraud-- but it's worse than this-- she now actually claims that she was HELPING the women she worked to cheat out of their compensation money! This is from an October article in Current Affairs- in this section, the author, Nathan Robinson, is at first quoting from a WaPo article (oddly enough!): The Washington Post homed in on one particular case, in which Warren worked on behalf of Dow Chemical:

One of her most controversial clients was Dow Chemical, which she advised in the mid-1990s. A subsidiary that manufactured silicone-gel breast implants faced hundreds of thousands of claims from women who said their implants caused health problems. Dow Chemical denied that it played a role in designing or making the implants and sought to avoid liability as its subsidiary, Dow Corning, declared bankruptcy.

Here is how Warren’s campaign explained her work for the company:

“In this case, Elizabeth served as a consultant to ensure adequate compensation for women who claimed injury from silicone breast implants who otherwise might not have received anything when Dow Corning filed for bankruptcy… Thanks in part to Elizabeth’s efforts, Dow Corning created a $2.35 billion fund to compensate women claiming injury from Dow Corning’s silicone breast implants.”

According to the Post reporters, though, this is simply a misrepresentation of her work:

But participants on both sides of the matter say that description mischaracterizes Warren’s work, in which she advised a company intent on limiting payments to the women.

“She was on the wrong side of the table,” said Sybil Goldrich, who co-founded a support group for women with implants and battled the companies for years. Goldrich said Dow Corning and its parent “used every trick in the book” to limit the size of payouts to women. The companies, she added, “were not easy to deal with at all.”

A person familiar with Warren’s role who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe litigation strategy said the future senator was part of a Dow defense team that had containing the company’s liability as a goal.

[…] The company has been resistant to making those payments, even though there is money remaining in the fund, said Ernest Hornsby, an Alabama-based attorney for plaintiffs.

He and others on both sides of the case said Warren’s expertise was used by a company fighting in court to limit its liability and payments to the women. “There weren’t any voices on Dow Corning’s side saying we should pay these woman as much as possible,” Hornsby said. “Nobody ever said, ‘Well, we have a law professor out of Massachusetts who says we ought to pay women more.’ ” Payments were estimated at $2,000 to $20,000 for women with ruptured implants, according to news reports at the time.

If the Post’s report is accurate, what Warren has done is quite outrageous. Not only did she accept giant fees ($600+ an hour) to represent a giant chemical company accused of making women sick (Warren later disputed evidence that the product made the women sick), but she then had the gall to pretend that she was actually the one fighting on behalf of the women instead of the company. One of the advocates for the women said the company used “every trick in the book” to avoid paying the women, and yet Warren said it was her efforts that got them a payout. This isn’t the only case in which Warren appears to have misrepresented what she did for the companies. (See this one involving sick asbestos workers, and these involving the liquidation of an electric cooperative and the jobs of workers at the aircraft manufacturer.) We might forgive someone who said that while they used to be a mercenary for corporations, they saw the light and changed side. It’s hard to forgive someone who still wants to pretend they were doing something other than what they were actually doing. (This is quite common among corporate lawyers, though. You’ll often see lawyers who claim to work on “civil rights and labor cases,” or who brag that they were “involved in an anti-discrimination settlement,” when actually they defend companies against discrimination claims and help them with union-busting. Warren pretending that because she was involved in a settlement in a product liability case, she was helping the victims, is a classic example.)

I'm not very good at quoting things correctly-- hope that's okay! But yes, this (and many other things) should be permanently damning. SHE IS NO PROGRESSIVE. THERE IS NO 'MAKING UP' BECAUSE IT'S NOT A QUARREL (that implies a party of two or more) IT'S A SMEAR!!!! We cannot say this enough!!!

I said this elsewhere. I did not know about Warren representing Dow Corning in that massive leaky breast implant case. We have complaints about someone in Bernie's campaign sexually harassing another worker, which I would suspect didn't happen in front of Sanders and Warren defending one of the more egregious fuckovers of women by a corporation.

I didn't know this. I follow politics pretty closely and I didn't know this. Now I feel like I find out a good friend has a history of robbing gas stations and killed the guy pumping his gas. And everyone else knew it. "Yeah, Bob, but you and him were such good friends that we didn't want to share it with you. By the way, how's that bullet wound healing?"

I'll ask here. Who knew this?