CNN blatantly lying to our faces
Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 11/02/2019 - 4:36pm
I am going to freaking lose it with this crap from CNN. @briebriejoy @davidsirota @kthalps @_michaelbrooks pic.twitter.com/V0Vzfh0055
— Greg C (Bernie 2020) (@greg06897) November 1, 2019
ICYMI
This is so embarrassing, but yeah CNN and MSNBC will be mostly functionally parts of the Mayo Pete campaign https://t.co/NwhbSjhwFH
— Michael Brooks (@_michaelbrooks) November 1, 2019
Looking like they are pushing both Warren and Mayo Pete to be the candidates since ByeDone is losing ground everywhere.
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Bad news for Bernie
Noam Chomsky
Awesome!!!
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
I do not miss having cable tv.
I do not miss that made desire to throw heavy objects at the tv screen.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Yep,
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
I realized I was paying a lot of money
The last tv weekly show I watched faithfully was "House". When the show ended, I cut cable off, no regrets. I had gotten tired of Maddow and Hayes a year or so before The End.
I am sort of keeping up with movies to watch, although I haven't driven that 80 mile round trip to the nearest theater in years. I watch them on planes when I travel. When I can't sleep, I will watch a movie. I can usually get strapped into the seat, and fall asleep within an hour or so.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Haven't had a television since 1986
when I evicted its alcoholic, non-working owner.
Can't remember, but I think he took it with him.
No mobile ether. I prefer to read and look at things independently.
Warmest thanks to you for always identifying the meaning at the heart of things.
More BS
Second video.. I can't separate them on my iPad.
Warren's MFA plan is horrible and it will not only take 10 years to implement it fully, it comes with lots of problems regarding how employers will pay their share. Companies that have independent contractors don't have to pay for it so how many companies now will just change their workers to independents or fire more to keep it under the limits? I thought I saved the article on this. Nope. But it's not a good plan. Then of course Nancy is telling everyone that she is not a fan of MFA and not to forget about pay go that will hamstring any progressive policies if Bernie gets in by some miracle.
Not about politics -- It's about life or death.
Paygo? No problem.
Let's take that 720 billion dollars that's sitting over there and put that in the kitty.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Just the Two of Us
No Bernie, just us -- sez the the guy whose name scrambled is Petit Bourgie (close enuff).
Well, they are two out of the three left
that are the favorites of the country's elites.
And the third, well...she's not such a "top-tier candidate" anymore.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Before this:
The polls said this.
I read somewhere that CNN had been weighting results against online users. Combine this bias with 'landline only' sampling and they're basically polling only the most politically uninformed and technologically backward US voters.
In other words, people who watch CNN.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Michigan
Nate the not-so-great:
Michigan Primary 2016
Projected Actual Difference
Sanders 37.5 50.1 +12.6
Clinton 60.0 48.0 -12.0
And Nate wasn't an outlier: averages of all polls had Sanders down by 21 before he won by 2 in Michigan.
No reason to think this silly season the polling will be any more accurate. Probably worse actually.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Nate the not-so-great
That’s the thing, isn’t it?
I have seen one headline a couple of times that is a variation on “the one pollster who correctly predicted Trump in 2016 has him as a favorite for 2020.” Probably just some Russian bot fake news or something, I’m sure.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
That's what happens
when you use polls to influence public opinion, rather than measure it.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
True
The first video shows Bernie clearly in the lead, but the woman makes it all about Warren and if people can't see that they are being misled right in big fat waters I just don't understand how people's minds work. But then other polls don't even add him to it so people might think he has dropped out.
I learned not to trust the media back in the early 2000's when I witnessed an interview by a big site and listened to what the person said only to see it reported totally opposite in the paper the next day. This is when I started questioning everything I read. But propaganda is strong and I admit I've been fooled.
ETA
I have no idea what I was trying to say here, but maybe some of you do? Autocorrect works in mysterious ways I guess. Maybe it was right in front of them? Oh well.
I just got back from almost a month in the asylum
formerly known as the USA. I had a nice trip although I couldn’t wait to get home even before I left. Imagine if you will, I’d rather be in the midst of an indigenous peoples’ strike and protest than in the greatest nation to ever exist. It was a violent protest I hear. And inspired/initiated by Russia, don’t ya know? At least that’s what I heard on CNN and MSNBC.
That right there is what made a mostly excellent trip suck so hard. Two sets of the three friends I spent a month with are addicted to CNN and MSNBC. They’re really decent people. We are close politically although I have become much more opposed to the established parties who are only different sides of the same sickness of self interest hell bent on increasing their wealth and power at the expense of everyone and everything else.
My friends can’t imagine such a thing. Getting rid of el Payaso Naranja is the only goal. That sole purpose is guaranteed to solve every problem of the world. Endless War. Environmental destruction. Greed. Corporate and governmental corruption. And all the rest that’s so fucking wrong doesn’t matter. I’m not sure they know anything like that exists. “Yeah but.......” is the only response.
They’ve become the “liberal” version of the Faux News horde all of us laughed at. Endless hours of CNN and MSNBC with Russia!! Russia!! Russia!! and Trump!!!!!!! Trump!!!!!!! Trump!!!!!!! does that to people. Even really good people.
Damn! I’m glad to be home!
"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."
Stay safe, friend!
The USA has absolutely no redeemable qualities. I also flirt with becoming an ex-pat. And I just might be able to do it.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Thanks.
Even the indigenous people are most concerned with their day to day hardships. Orchestrated by Russia my ass. This is people with hard lives trying to keep what little they have.
I sincerely hope I see this all wrong.
"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."
Wow your friends are in for a rude awakening
The IMF loans come with horrible consequences for the people there. Up to 50,000 jobs are supposed to be cut and lots of other really bad things are coming for them. They should look at what happened to Greece after their IMF loan.
But here is the real quid pro quo. Trump offered Ecuador $10 billion for Assange's arrest. Let's talk about this.
6% of GDP
The current budget problems and the economic slowdown at linked to low oil prices. The low oil prices can be pinned on the oil producers’ attack on shale oil and fracking and the bit players in the oil game. Higher oil prices solve Ecuador’s economic and growth problems. They are temporary. The IMF loan with its conditions are are like using herpes to boost the economy and growth. But I think we all know that this is a feature not a bug. Someone playing this game knows exactly what they’re doing and it has nothing to do with growth and development in Ecuador.
"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."
No one should make a deal with those vipers.
This is the Court of Chancery, which has its decaying houses and its blighted lands in every shire, which has its worn-out lunatic in every madhouse and its dead in every churchyard, which has its ruined suitor with his slipshod heels and threadbare dress borrowing and begging through the round of every man�s acquaintance, which gives to monied might the means abundantly of wearying out the right, which so exhausts finances, patience, courage, hope, so overthrows the brain and breaks the heart, that there is not an honourable man among its practitioners who would not give � who does not often give � the warning, �Suffer any wrong that can be done you rather than come here!�
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
You are seeing it for what it is.
Some of my best pals are hard core Democrats and they absolutely despise Republicans and all progressive Democrats who might cause any unity in the party. They never, ever discuss ANY right wing policies the Democrats support.
I got a call from some Democratic fund raiser, and I told the woman on the phone that until Democrats support progressives, the Party can kiss my ass. I said this in front of 3 blacks, all of them Democrats, and they all loved my response.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
And getting rid of Trump won't fix anything for us either
but too many people think it will. Trump is just the current figurehead for what is wrong with this country and that he follows in Obama's wake makes it all the more clearer for many of us that haven't fallen down the Russian rabbit hole.
Like CNN and MSNBC have become the new Fox News, Orange State has become everything they hated about Red State. They refuse to see the democrats for who they are. Lots of the problems happening now were problems during Bush's presidency and Obama's, but they skip right over the role Obama played when it was his turn. Especially the talks about MFA and single payer vs the ACA. No one connects the democrats selling us out to the current problems with people not having affordable health insurance. Nope it's just the GOP's fault that people are going bankrupt and every other problem. Blindness pure and simple.
I say again:
"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."
From “crashing the gates” to “more and better gatekeepers” !!
The “orange-ing” of progressives.
https://thebaffler.com/capital-offenses/mods-oconnor
Liberal version of FOX
This past week I told my best friend of 25 years that she had effectively become the liberal/Democratic version of her FOX News watching Republican father. It was not an easy conversation.
We've mostly agreed about politics since the early 90s; a few policy disagreements but nothing really all that major, and differences almost always easily discussed. Since 2016, though, we've been arguing about all of it, with only brief spates of relief whenever she turns the goddamned news off. We'll go back to having some interesting conversations about policy, history, electoral politics...then she'll turn the news back on and come at me with crazy bullshit again.
The arguments have come because she won't actually fact-check anything, so she'll start telling me about some story of the day and I'll have a different take on it than the corporate news and we'll disagree about a point. Then I'll explain why I believe whatever I believe (this usually is more about explaining why I DON'T believe something) and ask why she believes whatever she believes. This used to go forward in the expected manner, exchanging points of view and informing each other of different facts, information, and/or perspectives, no power struggle over who believes what, just curiosity and exchange. But ever since 2016, she does not explain why she believes what she believes, and she seems to either ignore or belittle whatever I'm explaining. Almost immediately, she jumps straight to insulting my point of view, then insulting my fucking character. I gave her some time to work it through but it's been 3 fucking years and instead of burning itself out it's been picking up speed and intensity, so I finally had to put a stop to it.
"If you don't want to fact check information, don't. If you are unwilling to fact check your information sources at the exact same time as you are blasting your father for being unwilling to fact check his, you should expect me to call your behavior hypocritical and dismiss your opinions. I understand that you do not like to be dismissed so I strongly recommend you instead fact-check your information. While I do not and will never respect a fact-free political opinion, I do respect people, categorically speaking, so I will always treat YOU with respect whether we agree on an issue or not, but you have been very far the fuck out of line about respecting me for 3 solid years so I am shutting the entire fucking thing down. Go get your shit together and either come back with respect whether we agree on a matter or not or else never raise this subject, or any other contentious subject, with me ever again."
I know this is going on all over the country but I absolutely hate that it's come to this.
“Well, where do you get your news?
“It’s Russia” is a common remark. A discussion about why getting a drivers license is so complicated for an expat had me telling them that getting caught driving without one here is an automatic 3 days in jail, 3 standard months salary ($378/month) fine, and the vehicle is impounded. The owner can’t get it until the person driving it pays their fines. “That sounds like communism!” Not just once or twice either. This from a very intelligent and creative woman. A liberal in the way it’s thought of in the minds of the Dem leadership. No, it is self determination by the people of Ecuador through their government to solve a very difficult problem of unlicensed, uneducated, and totally untrained people driving. To say I am shocked is quite an understatement.
Not only does someone who is amazingly well traveled and a kind gentle soul captured by propaganda from the news media but has absolutely zero knowledge of the lives of common ordinary people in developing countries. The idea that people other than Americans who are US citizens are the only ones In the entire world who can determine how they live is firmly planted and full grown. Is there any doubt why people are so nucking futs in the US and why the world doesn’t trust us anymore?
Manifest Destiny and exceptionalism have done quite a number on the land of the free. All it took was the catalyst of an attack on the WTC to put just the right amount of fear into good people to start the raging fire of stupid and belligerent. Land of the cowering and scared shitless, home of pissed off and unthinking hordes doesn’t quite have the same ring to it of the Liberty Bell.
"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."
In 2017, right after the election
That said, we have not spoken since, he's retired now and has always been bad about getting back in touch once he moves somewhere. But I have a feeling he's probably right back in the MSDNC mode as well as full blown TDS. I guess I am just as glad we don't talk anymore because in a way it breaks my heart to see that someone I once thought of as a mentor and the father I never really had could be so brainwashed as to refuse to see. It is the outright refusal that is hardest to take, I mean talk about FOX like? Just who really sounded like my RWNJ parents? That is a big reason I will never be on FB or any of those other idiot sites, I do not want to really know just how far down the rabbit hole people I know are. And I know for a fact I WOULD piss most of them off when I point out facts they do not want to hear. Impeach Trump, get Mike Pence, just that one alone usually gets a heavy sigh and/or a pissed off tone. Truth hurts, especially in the Land of The Free.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
So true
Rachel Maddow has become the Rush Limbaugh of MSDNC, but people will not pause for a second and fact check what she says. Remember when she scared the country by saying that Russia was going to hack the energy grid and people would freeze to death during the winter. Funny that... PG&E just did that to people in California and people have suffered economic and personal losses from it. But did Rachel pay any price for saying that or for being wrong on so many things? Has any newspaper paid the price for being wrong and only offering retractions that are hidden elsewhere in the papers days later that people don't see it? I am still seeing people repeating that ALL 17 intelligence agencies agreed that Russia did the deed when that was debunked a few weeks after it was said. No fact checking.
My uncle has become like your friend. He will not hear a bad word against Rachel Moscow because she is so smart and a
RoadsRhodes Scholar.This from Lizzy hit the nail square on the head:
Bottom line:
When I read the front pagers on DK totally mislead people on what the true facts are I wonder if they actually believe what they are writing or are they taking orders from the little CIA dude that runs the site? It is pure grade A propaganda bull shit and if anyone bothered to read the links posted that are supposed to back up their premises they would see that the original said nothing of the sort that is being pushed on them. I do and just laugh about, but it is not a laughing matter to get people to believe propaganda. Of course the government has always done it, but now they can do it blatantly and willingly after Obama rolled back the rules that made it illegal. And now the media is manufacturing consent for when the election is rigged again so that people will think it was fair and square. It won't be. It wasn't the last election nor many of the ones before. CTMS really hit it out of the ballpark today with her essay. We vote because all we have left is hope that it will matter. Here is Utah I have been told that mine does not. The legislature and the Mormon church will always have the last say in anything we vote for. The Family Values state refuses to expand Medicaid even though we voted for it. Kids are dying, but hey, it's only the poor ones right?
More Russian phobic dishonesty from the Slimes
Nasty Russians harassed a sick American diplomat? That’s ‘fake news’ says Foreign Ministry
How many people will just read the NYT story and thinks it has to be true cuz the Grey Lady would never lie to them? Well except for when Judith Miller lied about the Iraq war and the numerous other times,, but I am sure this time they wouldn't right? Right? I hope we start seeing some suits for slander soon. Tulsi has a great case against HER.
Interesting poll for Bernie
Fox News viewers are more likely to support Bernie Sanders than people who watch MSNBC
I like to imagine Bernie being president and picking Tulsi for his VP. OMG heads would explode.
ByeDone turns his back on audience...
and talks to the screen during a campaign event.
Seriously LMAO! On the floor laughing.
What?
I thought black people hated Mayor Pete because he's gay and blacks hate gays and won't vote for them. So how can he be rising in the polls? Oh, and he's too young and inexperienced, so white people won't vote for him. And he's a centrist, so progressives won't vote for him.
With all that going against him, his true poll number must be around 2 or 3 percents without the poll fluffing from CNN.
He's a nice, white upper-middle class
(parent(s?) were profs at elite private university) boy from the midwest, who volunteered for military service.
That's going to play pretty fucking well in Iowa.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
I've read Mayor Pete was knee deep in Afghan drug trade
the CIA represents one of the largest drug dealing organizations in history
http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/cia-drug-smuggling-heroin-911-connection/
An Afghan is the worlds largest producer...
https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/aotp.html
But I can't seem to find the article. Anyone know a source or have info? I found the info below in an ABC interview...
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intel-analyst-military-uber-inside-mayor...
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Most articles on Mayor Pete repeat same talking points
The fact that basically all you get, even on Duckduckgo, makes me suspicious of his ties. Kos is pretty much the same. And both have ties to the CIA, so there's that. Make of it what you will.
I did find this blog post from an Indiana blogger after he deployed to Afghanistan. (Page 2 of ddg search results.)
http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2014/06/buttigieg-tells-newspaper-his...
Bold, mine.
There are citations from a couple of books regarding the US involvement in the Afghan drug trade in the blog post as well, but not naming him in particular.
many thanks!
I knew someone here had posted that info. but I often forget where I see/read things.
I also read that he announced his run after meeting with the Clinton's and their DNC minions. They are screwing Bernie again and it is plain to see.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
OT but a heads up
Buzzfeed apparently got some emails or files about the Mueller investigation and everyone is losing their heads over it. Trump, Flynn, the RNC were all talking about getting the podesta and Hillary's emails and so people think it's the smoking gun that proves Trump knew Russia had them. But here's the thing everyone is missing.
Wikileaks told the world that they would be releasing them soon. This means that everyone knew that it was going to happen weeks before it did. Twitter and orange state are giddy with glee thinking that finally Trump is going down. He's not. If he was then Mueller would have nailed him. Or democrats would be impeaching him over it. They are not.
Nuther point here. Julian Assange is not being extradited here because of anything to do with the emails or Russia Gate. Nope. Not even a hint that is why he's in the slammer. It's because he helped Chelsea get war crimes exposed to the world starting with the Collateral Murder tape. Among other important issues.
This has been a friendly PSA for your sanity in the days to come. I have been taking lots of hits on Twitter pushing back on this bullcrap. I'm stupid. Ignorant. A Russian bot. A troll. You name it I've been called it. Heh..I'm still standing.