who was lying about Dead Ducks: gina haspel, julian barnes or MI6?
♫ can’t get enough of that novichok, novichok, novichok...♫
Oops! New York Times corrects Skripal story, says no ‘dead ducks’ or ‘sick kids’ from ‘Novichok’, 6 Jun, 2019, RT.com
“The New York Times has corrected a report that UK officials had shared photos with the CIA depicting children and animals who’d been exposed to the so-called Novichok nerve agent after coming into contact with the Skripals.
The Times reported on April 16 that the British government had supplied images of “young children hospitalized” and of dead ducks, inadvertently poisoned after interactions with Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia at a park in Salisbury in March of last year. The paper pointed to the “sloppy work of the Russian operatives” who were blamed for what London calls a nerve agent attack last year.
While the original story claimed the images were used to convince US President Donald Trump to expel 60 Russian diplomats from the US in response to the Skripal episode, the Times now says no such photos exist.
“An earlier version of this article incorrectly described the photos that [CIA Director] Gina Haspel showed to President Trump during a discussion about responding to the nerve agent attack in Britain,” reads the correction, issued almost two months after the original story was published.
Haspel, instead, presented the president with generic images illustrating the harmful effects of some nerve agents, while the British claims of sick kids and poisoned birds were based on “early intelligence reports,” the corrected story says.
While the Times amended the story and added an editor’s note, the paper apparently forgot to scrub a photo caption describing a “slipshod attack that also sickened children, killed ducks and required careful cleanup.”
Prior to the correction, there were already signs that something was off about the story. Shortly after the Skripal incident, British tabloid the Daily Mirror reported that three children were indeed hospitalized after feeding ducks in a Salisbury park with the Skripals, but blood tests revealed that the children were fine.
One of the boys reportedly even ate some of the bread supplied by Skripal and intended as bird-food. According to UK authorities, Sergei Skripal’s hands were coated in a highly-lethal nerve agent at that moment; it is unclear how the child could have avoided poisoning.”
But still, nothing changes the fact that Moscow had officially sanctioned the assassination attempt on the Skripals, and never mind about all those expelled Russian ambassadors (60 from the US, plus 20 other nations). They were probably spies in any event. Good riddance!
Also see Neil Clark’s ‘Hospitalized children & dead ducks? The ‘official’ Skripal narrative goes completely quackers’, April 19, 2019, RT.com which includes:
“You can imagine the conversation, as scripted by Cleese, Chapman and Clark…
Haspel: ‘Look Mr President. I know a dead duck when I see one, and I’m looking at it right now’
Trump: ‘No, he’s not dead, he’s, he’s resting… Beautiful plumage!’
Haspel: ‘The plumage don’t enter into it. It’s stone dead. And its name was Donald!’
Trump: ‘Oh my God, let’s kick out the Russkie duck killers!’”
Me, I think they were faking Novichok deaths…just for the ‘ell of it.
“There are so many unanswered questions, but arguably the most important one is this: why haven’t we seen or heard anything from Yulia and Sergei Skripal?
Yulia’s last video appearance was last May. Her father hasn’t been shown since his hospitalization, which we are told he recovered from.
If Yulia and Sergei accepted the UK government narrative, namely that the Russia state was behind their poisoning, then why haven’t they been brought out before the cameras, at a secret location, to say as much? Think what a great propaganda coup this would be.
Interestingly, a book published last year by Mark Urban, a BBC diplomatic editor, concedes that Sergei Skripal was initially reluctant to believe that the Russians had tried to kill him.
Even more puzzling is the fact that Sergei has not called his 91-year-old mother Yelena. If he is indeed being looked after by British security services, in order to protect him from another assassination attempt, then why hasn’t he been allowed to call home to say he’s ok? A simple ‘Hi Mum, don’t worry about me, I’m being looked after and I’m fine’ would suffice.
“She is waiting for his phone call. She needs nothing else. She needs one phone call from her son,” Skripal’s niece Viktoria said last September. The fact that he still hasn’t called home, suggests that Sergei Skripal is either dead, or unable to talk. If the latter, why haven’t we been told that he’s lost his voice? If the former, then how did he die?”
Related: from Jeffrey St. Clair’s July 20, 2018 July 20, 2018 ‘Roaming Charges: Are You Putin Me On?:
I’d hoped he was Putin us on about the #TreasonSummit in Helsinki, and that he’d taken HRW seriously:
“When it comes to immigrants from the former Soviet republics in Central Asia, Putin’s policies [< HRW Aug. 2013] of racial profiling, prolonged detention and interrogation are so stern that they would make J. Beauregard Sessions long for another “how-to” session with his old pal Sergey Kislyak.”
(cross-posted from Café Babylon)
Comments
LOL
You mean they weren't taking ducks from incubators and throwing them in the lakes and ponds to die?
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
ya bleeping got me
whether any of 'the competing stories' were even based remotely in truth. hell, i'm startin' to wonder if there ever WERE skripals. but if there were, there sure bein' kept in deep dark badger holes under D notices.
i kinda wished the paper weren't behind a paywal for me so i could see the photo they'd forgotten to scrub. all i could see were some feet, but part of the photo may have been one that neil clark had used above. dinnae you love his wee dialog? ; )
My personal theory
given the thick fonts
along w/ no paragraph breaks, id need to copy/paste your comment into a word document to read (crap vision). fascinating theory, seriously, but i have a few Qs: i) if he became a triple agent for russia, what info might he have been gathering; ii) i hadn't known that the day of the poisoning they'd split (i'd though papa was in hospital longer), but wouldn't they have had to take out their phone batteries so as not to be traced (UK is a major surveillance state); iii) but what poison might they have used o themselves?
now i'd needed to go find the video, and to me yulia doesn't look anything like the photo of her and sergei in the pub...but whoever it is is totally without affect, and is delivering a rote message.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz6XgKrPe3s]
i'd needed a refresher on the phone call, and that call as well seems to have been entirely scripted IF this is the actual transcript.
Viktoria: Hello?
Yulia: Hello. Do you hear me?
Viktoria: Yes, I hear you.
Yulia: It is Yulia Skripal.
Viktoria: Oh, Yulka [diminutive of Yulia] it is you! I recognise from your voice that it is you but cannot understand. So, they gave you a telephone, didn’t they?
Yulia: Yes, yes.
Viktoria: Thank God! Yulyash [diminutive of Yulia], is everything okay with you?
Yulia: Everything is ok, everything is fine.
Viktoria: Look, if tomorrow I get a (British) visa, I will come to you on Monday.
Yulia: Vika, no one will give you the visa.
Viktoria: Well, I thought so too. Oh well.
Yulia: Most likely.
Viktoria: If they give it, I need you to tell me whether I can visit you or not, tell me that I can.
Yulia: I think no, there is such a situation now, we’ll sort it out later.
Viktoria: I know it, I know it all.
ha, while i was fetching yulia's videom i ran into this AJE 'the inside story' and the two dudes were stupid, esp. the first /testified at the senate hearings on russian election interference, as was the idiot interviewer. but fascinatingly, annie machon (?) former MI brought up the theory we've heard that sergei might have been connected to christopher steele dossier dude, but she was the sole interviewee who posed alternate theories, and wasn't buying that 'moscow did it'. i started it when she came on; the rest of the interview was more about litvinenko iirc.
[video: https://youtu.be/kIMfe7syMBY?t=6m1s]
but how cool you've really been working on a theory!
Sorry for taking so long to respond
welcome home;
hope your travels were good. thanks for sharing your additional thoughts, even as to the phones. some of what you've brought is new to me, but yes, it was apparently the chief of nurses of the british army.
but yes, much of what you've written is plausible; thank you. apologies for being so off-my-game on this subject, but i've studied issues in too many locales since this. but we'll never know the truth, will we? D notices and all.
light bulb!
you may have been pinging the Madison Ave. advertising agency's 'Saddam and incubators' psyop. myownself, i'd reckoned that 'saddam's flying chemical weapons factories' (colin powell) would have been the Winner, but...i was wrong. do you know i lost a couple friends who just couldn't believe i didn't accept his justification for war testimony?
and do consider looking at the updates on my current 'abandon all hope...assange' thread. the last one at the bottom is darkness/darkness evil.
just saw that b o MoA
had covered this on june 6.
his conclusion (and he subscribes to the NYT of course):
I wanna buy that bridge in the MOA story
I also wanna believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus. I await seeing a story debunking their existence in the NYT by Julian Barnes, followed three months later by a retraction. When that happens, I will still be able to believe in EB and SC. Whoopee!
lol.
yes, i've already decided. but you might get a Bang! (so to speak) out of this from RT today:
No Novichok B&B for you: Authorities may buy Skripal house to prevent it from becoming a business 9 Jun, 2019 , although i havent the time to unwind any of it, but trust me: too much fun.
nice to see you, gator man.