If Mueller Finds no Evidence of Collusion Impeach Him Anyway
We don’t need a report from Mueller or more evidence to impeach him. He’s already committed thousands of impeachable offenses. It’s time to #ImpeachTrump.
— Scott Dworkin (@funder) February 20, 2019
Yep. Trump has committed war crimes and is going against congress' EPA laws and broken the emoluments clause and...and...and.... but those things aren't important to congress to pursue.
MUELLER COULD FINISH NEXT WEEK, AND THE ‘RESISTANCE’ ISN’T QUITE SURE HOW TO SPIN IT
CNN’s report that special counsel Robert Mueller could wind up his investigation and deliver his much-anticipated report as early as next week has the anti-Trump ‘Resistance’ seemingly struggling to sustain a consistent narrative.
Some speculated that Mueller could have been pressured by recently-confirmed Attorney General William Barr to end the investigation prematurely.
!!BREAKING!!
DOJ sources claim #MuellerReport to be given to Barr as early as next week & Barr to give summary to Congress shortly thereafter.
▪️Did Barr pressure Mueller to “end” his investigation?
▪️What will Barr reveal to Congress? https://t.co/3IyDy9n01d— Katie Phang (@KatiePhang) February 20, 2019
Others have decided that everything said about Russia Gate is true and it doesn't matter what Mueller decides. Meddled vs Collusion?
As a senior member of @HouseJudiciary I believe AG Barr must make the #MuellerReport public so all can learn how #Russia meddled in the 2016 election & whether that crime was aided & abetted by @realdonaldtrump or his campaign #TrumpRussia #Collusion https://t.co/SmTO4OnqfV
— Sheila Jackson Lee (@JacksonLeeTX18) February 20, 2019
I vehemently disagree with this dude.
First, we have to protect ourselves against further damage in 2020. Then, we must recognize that only by having all the facts and all the wrong-doers publicly tried and brought to justice can we ensure we do not suffer similar attacks and betrayals in the future.
— David Rothkopf (@djrothkopf) February 20, 2019
It's obvious to me what this sh*t show has been about and just because Mueller will ride off into the sunset doesn't mean that Russia Gate is going to end. Nope. Far from it. We will continue to see websites censored and company like NewsGuard, PropOrNot, the Integrity Initiative and others still push their agendas. Oh yeah. And we're out $30-40 million to Mueller's investigation.
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Prove it
Dems seize on Times bombshell to push allegations of Trump obstruction
It shouldn't matter what people think about Trump's actions if they can't prove it or if Mueller can't. I'd love to see Trump tossed out of the WH as much as anyone, but not because something that has been made up like this Russian farce. There is plenty of things that he has done that goes against our laws so go after him for them.
Maybe since Brennan and others have lied to congress and have gotten away with it, taking an oath to tell the truth doesn't mean as much anymore.
Besides, how many times has he been accused of putting his thumb on the investigation only to have seen that he didn't?
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
yeah, but he *may* have.
so many weasel words, unattributed anonymous sources.
Yes, and I MAY be the great-grandson of Czar Nicholas
and therefore the rightful Czar of Russia. But don't bet on it.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
nah, you might be
tsrarina anastasia, though. you know she escaped, yes?
DNA research says no
Tsar's entire family accounted for, none survived.![Sad](https://caucus99percent.com/sites/all/modules/smiley/packs/kolobok/sad.gif)
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
i do understand,
and thanks; i was just attempting to make the notion more *plausible*.
She was my grandmother.
She hid out as a Hungarian baker in the Kaiser's palace in Budapest, married an Austrian metal worker and emigrated to Chicago via Ellis Island. That's my story and it makes more sens3e than Russiagate.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
rotflmao!
Because they have nothing
doesn't mean it will stop.
Where the fuck were these people when obummer basically gave war criminals a pass?
"We have to look forward" was an admission that the status quo would continue.
Now that prick hangs with war mongers like branson.
And I should vote dim? Spare me the gut wrenching laughter.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
I think Obamacorp committed more war crimes than Bushco.
Despite appeals from Amenesty Internation, Obamacorp continued torture at Gitmo and black holes like Bagram, including torture of Chelsea Manning, a US citizen and a member of the volunteer army and forced feeding of Muslim prisoners. (And after torturing Manning, Obama commuted her sentence. WTF? But never let up on pressuring the Brits re: Assange, who committed no crime at all. WTF?)
Obama also increased serial drone murders exponentially. Like Bushco, he even continued imprisonment of a number of prisoners who had been exonerated by our own investigations. Too dangerous to release after the horrible way we treated them, I guess. Oh, and I'm pretty sure attempting regime change in other sovereign nations violates international law, too.
Whodda thunk good ole hopey changey alleged Constitutional Law professor would have outdone Bushco?
BTW, when you get some free time, check out the Bill of Rights and see how many of its protections are limited to US citizens. Remember, no one was a US citizen until after ratification of the Constitution in 1789. And all of them were either immigrants to this continent or descended from immigrants of recent memory.
Except, of course, for members of First Nations, who, according to the genome project, immigrated to this continent over 50,000 years ago from RUSSIA!!11!1!. At lease, at least according to the genome project. (Fortunately, for them, they did a lot less meddling with the environment than the undocumented European immigrants who came here 50 or more millennia later.)
Any6way, in light of colonial history, it's perfectly understandable that the protections of the Bill of Rights are not limited to US citizens. Somehow, the alleged Constitutional Law Professor (actually a lecturer on civil rights), Holder and others seem to have missed that bit as much as Bushco did.
The original English and Spanish settlers
were not immigrants. They were invaders. Let's call a spade a spade. The Spanish in particular were frankly looking for gold and slaves. The Pope, the "Holy Father" agreed that the Spanish could have their bodies if the Church could have their souls and aided and abetted this armed robbery and enslavement. The English were typically more subtle, couching their robbery in terms of treaties by getting local leaders who did not understand the subtleties of English law and language and in many cases the concept of land ownership at all to "sell" them their land at a pittance when the natives just thought they were allowing the English to share the land.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
This is why we are so screwed in our new war with Russia
Think about it. We're talking about a nation which can drop $5000 in facebook and overthrow the US government. We're talking about a nation which plans their invasion 50 freakin thousand years in advance. We should just give up now and learn to speak Russian.
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
Bombshell! Bombshell! Bombshell!
The walls are closing in. It's the beginning of the end.
From that twitter by "David Rothkopf", whoever he is:
Oh, please.
(Where's that "eyeroll" smiley when you need it?)
"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi
"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone
Benedict Arnold? Jefferson Davis?
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
I was thinking of
George H. W. Bush and the rest of the Bush-Clinton crime families, among many others. I'd also count the mainstream news media among the betrayers.
You don't need to go far back in history to find incidents worthy of the description "betrayal of the country". (Although there are many, going back to the beginning.)
9/11?
The deal made by the Reagan Repubs to leave the American hostages in Iran until the day Reagan was sworn in?
Turning control of the US over to a bunch of sociopathic oligarchs, letting them vampirize the nation's life force and waste our lives and resources on the MIC's imperialist misadventures?
Leaving the country to rot from the inside, while propagandizing us non-stop, destroying our civil liberties, militarizing the police, and turning the US into a surveillance state?
The fact that almost 100% of our political "leaders" today participate in acts of bribery, as a standard way of operating?
If these things don't count as major betrayals of the nation, what on earth would?
Maybe most Americans don't even recognize a betrayal when they see one anymore. Maybe they've gotten so used to this state of affairs that they think it's normal. Either that, or they're so overwhelmed that they can't even see it. If they do see it, they're afraid to talk about it for fear of being labelled "conspiracy theorist", "unpatriotic", or "traitor".
But it's not normal. These things are major betrayals.
"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi
"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone
What an 'investigation' $30 to $40 million spent
yet no interview with Julian Assange happens during this great 'investigation? Lawyers for Julian Assange offered an interview for Mueller (at the embassy) and considering that most of the 'collusion investigation' allegations involve Julian Assange and Wikileaks you'd think that would be'interview' #1.
At least a Skype video should be quick and easy once Assange arranged his lawyers presence for it.
No questions to ask or just the kind only asked/answered in the kangaroo 'Special Federal 'State Secrets Central' Court where your expected shot at justice is dead on arrival under the WW1 era espionage law?
I think the latter.
However Russophobe deluxe Rep.Schiff was open to questioning Julian Assange but only in person here in the US and with Julian in cuffs.
Vengence is mine sayeth the Trumpster
Pardon Assange of all charges since no interview was needed or done.
Disolve all 17 intelligence agencies that charged there was collusion with Russia.
Cancel all sanctions against Russia and restore friendly relations as promised in his campaign.
Here is his chance to really drain the swamp and have the backing of most of the American people.
And MAGA again.
Hell, disolving the CIA would get him a vote from me for the Nobel Peace Prize.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Just take a look at today's Disobedient Media.
The concurrent investigation by the nation's leading experts in these matters has continued unabated using REAL evidence. It's all there.
Not to be missed if you ever want to hold a fact-based conversation about the Russia Hoax that was perpetuated upon this nation. Elizabeth Vos is a gifted fact-based investigative journalist, and produces nothing like the cray-cray delusions that Marcy spews over at Emptywheel (a perfect name for that blog). The silencing of Assange has been all about preventing him from testifying
and putting to lie the entire Mueller boondoggle.
For my part, this investigation has led to dreadful discoveries concerning the involvement of CrowdStrike and Imran Awan in the real crime that will never come to light in our lifetimes.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
Challenge: If this site can go along without
mentioning Russia, Russians, Rooskies or other weasel words relating to Russia for six days, I send some bucks to JtC.
The Russian under my bed gets restless and kicks my behind from under the mattress and I can't take it any longer.
https://www.euronews.com/
No wonder Mueller couldn't find them
You were hiding them under your bed.
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okay, ma soeur.
not expressly (on edit>) mueller investigation), but clearly a treasonous, impeachable offense:
oh wait, and oh, double rats: the piece at Rt.com was titled: 'Trump accused of seeking to sell US nuclear ‘secrets’ to Saudis… so why is this Russia’s fault?'
20 Feb, 2019 just foolin' around, mimi. ; )
I have an idea, we could have a code word for 'Russia'
and then continue to write for ever and ever whatever to whomever whenever. Let's call 'em 'TOP-istas'.
/ducking,
PS: I still need more coffee or simply shut down. I am really tired of life these days.
So, enjoy the fun with the TOP-istas, but I have now to crawl under my bed and have some 'quality time' with my favorite Russian under my bed.
PS1: I am just fooling around as well.
PS3: Keep on going on. I understand only half of what you write, but that is plenty enough and entertaining.![Smile](https://caucus99percent.com/sites/all/modules/smiley/packs/kolobok/smile.gif)
https://www.euronews.com/
I heart me my Marylander Elijah Cummings
good guy, hope his investigation goes places and gets results. I have a special place in my heart for courageous whistleblowers. I hope they will be known soon, so that we can honor them.
Thanks, favorite sister. It takes a while but eventually I read the stuff and at least get the most important lines correctly.![Smile](https://caucus99percent.com/sites/all/modules/smiley/packs/kolobok/smile.gif)
https://www.euronews.com/
my larger point was
meant to be pointing to the weasel words in that report, and how damning it sounds nonetheless. i could give a fig about TOP, myownself, but i realize many of you are still inversely wedded to the place as former denizens. iirc, i only read anything there a few times when someone at sites i did write for gave a link to the GOS.
but see how i mooked up my post to you? we'd been without wifi for most of the day, so i was in a hurry to catch up, and had even included the word
russiaby mistake. the surprise was meant to be providing the tile in the end. the result being: i blew Teh Funny! bah!I am sorry that the way I make jokes is a little awkward
to your ears. Let me give it a rest. The Russians are 'ante portas' so to speak where I live and I haven't felt threatened by them since reunification. It simply isn't my thing. And whatever happens at TOP, happens. I am not interested at all. It's irrelevant to my life.
So, sister, let us be best friends and sisters and start all over. I will never be able to read as much as you all do. I also don't want to read that much. I hope you can understand and foregive it. It is not meant as an offense or disrespect of your tremendous work here.
Peace? - Mais oui. Of course. What else?
https://www.euronews.com/
oh, no;
it was all my error, mimi, just being in too much of a hurry again. no phones, no wifi, a mammoth blizzard with 4 and 5- foot drifts, so i got way behind, even adding to my current diary. (luckily i dinnae have to shovel or plow us out w/ our 1947 ford 8-N), but poor mr. wd did. ; ) so i blew the Jest, and hadn't made it clear why all those D-anons might end up being part of Mueller-gate, although i did see one alleged source named earlier today (it skittered out of my decrepit grey matter straightaway, naturally). but watch for that to blow up as big as it can be. as with: the russian GRU hacked the emails, gave them to assange, yada, yada...and yada.
of course peace w/ you always, ma soeur.
Hahaha!
Wile reading your comment I was ready to go all Yosemite Sam on the contents until I got to:
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Damn. Big Lies really are dangerous. But I can see how Americans have been methodically primed to buy that kind of lie hook-line-and-sinker.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
Trump is a typical Republican
in the W, Reagan, Nixon mold. In other words slimy as hell, guilty of an 18th century novel's length list of crimes, but nothing that the House corruptocrats aren't themselves guilty of. Ultimately they will try to impeach him if - and only if - they think that they can gain some personal advantage from it. (President Pence, President Pelosi, President For Life Hillary the First, a 2020 wave election, a proschemata for WW3, your guess is as good as mine what their true goals are, though I think that referring to Thucydides is more appropriate than just the Latin) In any event this is how a corrupt royal court would act, not a legitimate democracy.
On to Biden since 1973
I keep telling you that
the phony "Emergency" is an impeachable offense once Trump spends one dollar of mis-appropriated funds on his wall in defiance of the Constitution. The Emergency powers Act only authorized those re-appropriations necessary for an immediate response to a natural disaster, invasion, or insurrection. Forget "emoluments" from his business. That was a reach. If I, as a low-level employee had authorized one dollar of mis-appropriated funds, I would have been cashiered and probably tried. Certainly tried for a substantial amount of money. Is five billion substantial?
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
This is how we do--spend millions of dollars we claim we don't
have to investigate a President who is not from the same party as the House and/or the Senate, then declare victory when the investigators find crimes unrelated to the purpose of the investigation and/or process crimes that result from the investigation itself. We do not, however, bring down said President, only those unfortunate enough to have dealt with him before he became President and those loyal enough to try to cover up for him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Berger#Unauthorized_removal_and_dest...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_McDougal#Prison
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton (perjury--internationally televised perjury; impeached by a Republican House and falsely acquitted by a Democratic Senate, including of perjury that millions had witnessed, thanks to internationally broadcast questioning under oath. FFS, the ARKANSAS Supreme Court disbarred him and many of the occupants of that bench were probably his buddies, if not his appointees. But, only in America--his popularity went up and that of the Republicans who had impeached him down. Which is very likely why Democrats only yapped about impeachment of Bush and Trump.
Hell, even racist Democrat Johnson did not get convicted by a Republican majority Senate and he, too, was clearly guilty of at least one of the charges. Then again, IIRC, the impeachment occurred during the last year of his term they had enough votes to override whatever he vetoed.
Sigh. US politics = FUBAR
Which charge?
I was taught in school that Johnson's acquittal established that the President could indeed fire anyone in the Executive Branch even if Senate approval was needed to appoint him in the first place.
As for Clinton, perjury is indeed a felony and the Arkansas Supreme Court was right to disbar him for it. But it is not a High (i.e. governmental) crime. At least some Constitutional scholars said that was the meaning of High Crime and Misdemeanor. Otherwis3e, a President could be impeached for a misdemeanor parking violation or smoking in a restaurant.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Mostly, I think this is tit for tat
Clintons emails vs. Trumps Russia ties. Nothing winds up the establishment dems like reliving 2016. It's revenge. It's Hillarys Great White Whale. Same for Bernie making HER lose. They just can't get over how it has to be somebody else's fault she lost. They won't go after Trump on the real crimes because those crimes are something the dems want in their arsenal for the future.
Cults never go gently into the night.
Russiagate has evolved in 2-3 years where it has reached a semi-mystical level. It is pretty easy to draw comparisons between the Christian Satan and his minions with Russian Putin with his minions. They whisper shit in your ears and off you go committing sinful acts like not buying GMO foods or not vaccinating children.
It seems what cults do is evolve and change when reality strikes to continue their ways. "No direct evidence of collusion" evolves to circumstantial evidence is enough to prove collusion. And in some cases, the end of cult involves a very violent ending.
Whatever is in the Mueller report ...
... Trump colluding with Russia in regards to the election will probably not appear.
Did his campaign staff violate campaign laws in meeting with foreign nationals? Probably. They are business people used to meeting with foreign nationals and have no idea what laws govern campaigns.
Is Trump a crook? Almost certainly. I wouldn't be surprised if he's committed white collar crimes every day of his adult life. Tax evasion, money laundering, fraud, questionable payoffs, etc. Will any of that appear in the report? No idea.
What about impeachable offences? Trump fired Comey, we have Trump's public statements and Comey's sworn testimony before Congress. They don't need anything else, they could have impeached him a year ago if they wanted to.
Impeachment isn't a criminal trial, it's a human resources action. "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" means exactly what the House and Senate decide they mean, and there is no appeal. It isn't a legal proceeding, it's political theater.
If they are going to remove Trump from office (requiring 20 ish Republican Senators to agree to it, spin me a scenario where that happens) they will want to do it as soon as possible. If they are going to run investigations and beat their chests about how horrible he is but never do anything about it, they will want to drag it out until after he is nominated at the convention.
Which makes me think that this report will be a big nothing burger. Anything substantive regarding Trump himself has been forwarded to the New York state prosecutors and might turn into something, eventually.
That doesn't mean that more Trump associates will be charged, or maybe Mueller has already done as much of that as he is going to do.
Of course, we still haven't heard from Weisselberg. He got his immunity deal six months ago and we haven't heard a peep. It will be interesting to see if any of that is in the report.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
As to this:
No. Meeting with foreign nationals is their job during transition. No criminal complaint was made over that, which was completely legal. At least, so say former administrations and ambassadors about Presidential transitions they participated in. This included constant contact with Russia.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato