Coup in Progress in Venezuela: TRNN Live - updated
Submitted by wendy davis on Wed, 01/23/2019 - 4:27pm
some hideous updates at the bottom, others more 'almost hideous'.
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I'll add more as I can and listen to what Sharmine's guests have said. Boy, howdy, this has been brewing for awhile.
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Today's Moon of Alabama
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/01/venezuela-us-again-tries-regime-ch...
" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "
thanks for bernhard's
take; i'll read it as i can. johnstone's graphic is great.
i sure agree with
b that if history on the coup attempts in VZ are predictors, the military will stay loyal to the elected maduro government. but this morning bill van auken at wsws who loathes the 'bourgeois capitalist maduro) writes:
he notes that the davos elite have rolled out the carpet for bolsonaro, which he took to mean that the ruling class loves the coup, and that may well be because: bidness. he adds that so dos the NYT, and senator dick durban. as i'd been foolin' around with a report on davos, i'd noticed there was a panel on the sidebar close to 'how to we solve a problem like VZ?' likely the answer, if the discussion's already happened, was "R2P".
also, from sputnik news: 'Exiled Venezuelan Officers Incite the Military to Stop Supporting Maduro'
but a commenter on bill van auken's piece asked about the dem socialists sanders and ocasio, and i found this either at wikileaks' or cordelier's account:
i checked, neither had anything on it, but i do remember ocasio asking on firing line why people kept implying that her socialism was like VZ's when she says it like finland's.
trump has also apparently to blockade VZ's ports, another good way to increase the misery factor.
so, Trump has been conspiring with the Venezuelan
military while being accused of "colluding" witb Putin (whatever "colluding" may mean) while Putin meddled in
Hillary'sour election?Why do I get a deja vu about the Egyptian spring?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_revolution_of_2011
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Egypt
in your part I,
yes, you've got it. your part II, if you mean it was an astro-turfed kinda CIA color revolution, and clinton, et.al. chose the next prez (or the one folowing?) that's how i took it. another case of a secular leader overthrown by the (never mind) kind? but i may mistake your meaning, remembering incorrectly (as happens so often.) ; D
but oh how wwe cheered that gene sharp-esque revolution, and i...sharpe in particular until i earned that his was another gladio op.
You understood me.
whew! ; )
hideous morning updates on the way....
The commissioner?
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
I hadn't seen that one before. I like it.
what is it?
well, who is the stand-in for batman?
America -The Land of the Free
Our motto is “We’ve never seen a coup that we couldn’t support or a duly elected leader that we wouldn’t toss to the wolves if it suits us.”
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
if it suits us: yes.
even though ya could see it comin' a mile or twenty off, i'm sooo pissed that most of the western world agrees. but the PR campaign against maduro has been formidable.
Yeah, I saw Pencildick's speech on this crap this morning.
These bloodsuckers will do anything they can to prop up the petrodollar.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
they've been plannin'
this since obomba had called VZ govt. a 'direct threat to amerikan national security'; military solutions are not off the table'. then keeeeeep squeezing the economy to death.
god's blood.
Aaron Mate:
We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.
and there it is...
'in person'. gracias, amigo.
i'll add some sparkling eyes eyes humor from sergei lavrov today at RT: ‘US interfering in Venezuela? No need to ask Mueller to determine that – Lavrov’, rt today
self explanatory, but a bit or three:
ain't lavrov a gem of a diplomat?
a few additions, i'll embed the links later:
From WikiLeaks: @wikileaks 47m47 minutes ago
WikiLeaks Retweeted A/J REMIGIO CEBALLOS: “High military command in Venezuela now publicly stating support for Nicolas Maduro as Commander in Chief. Says military backs Maduro. Without army support, US government backed opposition cannot take control.”
“A tweet posted by US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo condemning the landing of two Russian bombers in Venezuela as a “squandering” of public money, has quickly backfired, with many eager to point out some glaring hypocrisies.
Russia sent the two Tu-160 strategic bombers on the 10,000km trip to land at Simón Bolívar International Airport on Monday in a show of support for the government of President Nicolas Maduro, which has repeatedly expressed concerns that the US is trying to topple it.”, RT, Dec. 11, 2018
‘Unelected Brussels bureaucrats support ‘democracy’ in Venezuela ‘on behalf of EU’, 23 Jan, 2019, RT
“European Union has sided with “democratic forces” in Venezuela, backing the self-proclaimed president Juan Guaido over the elected government of Nicolas Maduro.
“Unlike Maduro, the parliamentary assembly, including Juan Guaido have a democratic mandate from Venezuelan citizens,” President of the European Council Donald Tusk tweeted on Wednesday evening, urging all of Europe to support “democratic forces” in Venezuela.
Meanwhile, the unelected EU High Representative for foreign policy, Federica Mogherini, likewise declared her support for Guaido’s self-proclaimed government, in language strangely reminiscent of EU support extended to Ukraine’s coup in 2014.
‘Venezuela Cuts Relations with United States Over Coup Support’, jan. 23, telesurenglish.net
‘The Case for the Legitimacy of Maduro's Second Term’, jan. 10, 2019, telesur english
https://www.telesurenglish.net/analysis/The-Case-for-the-Legitimacy-of-M...
#HandsOffVenezuela on twitter
pdf of CEPR's mark weisbrot explaining what further oil embargoes on VZ would do when he was on TRNN recently. for some reason i couldn't find it again at TRNN.
Mark Weisbrot: 'Trump’s Threats to Invade Venezuela Are Part of U.S. Strategy of Regime Change’, July 11, 2018, demoracynow.org, video and transcript
goddam them all.
It's a done deal
This has been in the works for a very long time and now it's done. Some of the tweets I read from Russia Today's article on this were downright creepy.
Here's our gal Nikki
Gawd am I glad that she is gone. Anyone know if Trump's pick of the Fox News lady for UN ambassador is going to pass? I'm betting that the democrats won't put up too big of a fight against her.
go, nikki!
(wish i could abide ben norton, snoop.)
and here i was puttin' together a satirical piece on davos 2019... used to be an annual tradition.
more from trnn:
The US Strategy for Regime Change in Venezuela: TRNN Live, January 23, 2019
Alex Main discusses the crippling economic sanctions the U.S. has imposed on Venezuela with TRNN’s Sharmini Peries and Greg Wilpert. arrggh, 30 minutes
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Wow! Trump jacked their gold stash!
As usual, the US throws out ‘sanctions’ that are intended to cause the most suffering and harm for the masses.
And that’s only Section 1.
All your stuff be ours, Venezuela. So drop back five and punt.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
good on ya;
i was trying to remember who had the story about (was it?) the bank of england refusing to give VZ back their own gold because: sanctions.
can i drop this here? i'm plum wore out already:
via amerikan diplomat Pompeo, this grotesque pronouncement: ‘US refuses to withdraw diplomats from Venezuela, vows ‘appropriate action’ if they’re harmed’, via RT (h/t mr. wd)
kinda had been wondering whether the russians might park a few bombers at VZ airports, myownself.
it seems that marco rubio
(or was it pence? all pinheads look alike?) is advising guaido that if he can just hang in there, amerika will free up millions of dollars confiscated from VZ to aid his new gummint.
Exxon wants their oil.
The US government sees their job as making sure Exxon gets their oil.
Period. (In another place and in another time, I would have typed "Seig Hiel").
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Rexxon's already
been drilling in the disputed fields between guyana and VZ.
Your point being?
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
what a gnarly way to
elicit further information. but rather than breeze by i'll give you conventional thinking on the contested fields from oilprice.com, aug. 2015
Hungry Venezuela Eyes $40 Billion Offshore Discovery In Guyana:
opening graphs:
but VZ is also rich in other minerals: bauxite, coal, gold (second highest gold reserves in the world, according to teh wiki), and iron ore. as w/ afghanistan and much of sub-saharan africa, it's treasure right for pluckin' and plunderin'.
Once the new Trumpian
president of Brazil assumed office (musing about invasion), this was on the cards.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
it's been in the cards
since the OAS booted VZ out, colombia entered nato, and entertained amerikan troops there.
telesur desk via mronline.org. and of course: Boss Tweet of the Trigger Finger and bolton. #asshole
Well there haven't been Venuzuelans in the migrant caravans
But they may have to join soon. It sucks to live somewhere that is on top of our oil and mineral resources.
it's hard to find
rebuttal to 'millions and millions are fleeing VZ' in the msm, including zero hedge, but one dude on trnn had done so, although he wasn't terribly good at it.
well, this ain't it, but as i'd missed it and it has some almost satirical opening paragraphs at the top, so hello: 'Guardian Reports More “Good News”, Kid are Dying in Venezuela, David William Pear | January 14, 2019
The Guardian would have to improve
tenfold before you could call it a piece-of-shit propaganda outlet.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
william pear done good, eh?
if you hadn't seen this tweet i'd posted at the bottom, make it a stand-alone to read nunes whole storify of the money withheld from VZ. the gold bars make an appearance, among many other billions.
Satan rules here.
No matter how much we ask God to bless America.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
plenty of satans,
but you've reminded me of Hugo Chavez following george bush at the UN general assembly quipping 'the stench of sulphur is still in the air'.
good night, all. i'm closing down for the night, heading into the mystic...
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given that most see the military is
key to the eventual outcome of this putsch, this is good to see,good to know: ‘Venezuela: Defense Minister Padrino, Military's Top Brass Affirms Loyalty to President Maduro’, jan 24, telesurenglish.net (w/ accompanying photo)
“General Vladimir Padrino said that the United States and other governments are executing a war against Venezuela.
The military high command of Venezuela ratified Thursday its support for President Nicolas Maduro, whom he recognized as the legitimate president, said the defense minister.
General Vladimir Padrino in a statement from the ministry and in the company of the military leadership said that the United States and other governments are executing a war against Venezuela. "I warn the people that there is a coup underway against our democracy and our president Nicolas Maduro," Padrino said during the press conference. "As soldiers, we work for peace and not for war."
In his message broadcast on official television, Padrino said they would not recognize "a person" who proclaimed himself head of state referring to opposition lawmaker Juan Guaido. "Those of us who lived through the coup of 2002 have it etched into our minds, we never thought we'd see that again, but we saw it yesterday."
commenter don bacon (iirc) at bernhard's coverage had offered this:
'How Capable is Venezuela of Defending its Airspace? Part One' The Most Vulnerable Target State?, miltarywatchmagazine.com
after listing their weaknesses and strengths, the article wraps up:
let's seriously hope and pray it doesn't come to that.
So what's the story here?
Who won the election? Over at Booman Tribune, people are claiming that Maduro is not the elected leader under Chavez's constitution. Can somebody offer facts rather than opinion on this? Was the Constitution changed? What were the election results? what are the claims by both sides? Are we just picking the leader WE want and Trump is picking the leader HE wants? The important thing is which leader do the majority of the Venezuelan people want?
I have no dog in this fight. Just looking for facts. And I don't trust Trump OR Putin! Or Schumer OR Pelosi (Good God!)
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Booman is a CIA spook, just like Markos
guaido never ran for president,
and was almost unknown until a month or so ago. his politics seem to have been akin to (MUD) henrique capriles and/or leopoldo lopez. but may i refer to you to this lengthy explanation so you can decide if maduro's election was legitimate?
'The Case for the Legitimacy of Maduro's Second Term' jan 10, telesurenglish.net it's been a long and nasty business.
and this is simply (or not) in the 'FWIW' category, even though it's from VZanalysis.com.
but none of the opposition has used this as a pretext for guaido crowning himself King, nor for so many governments supporting his self-crowning. ever single 'hooray for deposing the tyrant maduro' screed notes that all these nations agree:
United States, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Honduras, Panama, Paraguay, European Parliament President Antonio Tajani, European Council President Donald Tusk, and EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini.
meanwhile, supporters: Cuba, Turkey, Russia, Iran, China, Bolivia, Nicaragua, recently el salvador, and mexico: for now.
Britain says Maduro "not legitimate leader".
Now there's a surprise. /s
https://www.rt.com/news/449626-britain-claims-maduro-not-legitimate/
Who gave the US or the UK a vote in Venezuela, anyway?
FWIW, I don't think Trump or May is a legitimate leader.
R2P doctrine?
USiasn Monroe Doctrine?
ah, well, i'd spoken too
soon about trump's poodle and guaido: ‘Putin: Foreign interference in Venezuela’s internal affairs grossly violates international law’, RT today
apologies: this was meant for @irishking.
but also:
"Former U.N. expert Alfred de Zayas said in an interview that the U.S. attempted coup in Venezuela is against international laws.
Alfred de Zayas, a former United Nations expert who visited Venezuela in 2017 as a U.N. representative, said that the United States is conducting an illegal coup in the country which is against international laws", telesur english. ya think???
but this is some sort of face-saving bullshit, isn't it? 'Exclusive: White House preparing draft national emergency order, has identified $7 billion for wall', cnn
rotflmao!
and next, trump's poodle will declare for guaido! dayum, i ♥ this photo!
added on edit: pretty mealy-mouthed of corbyn, imo.
from my favorite tankie's
twit account:
time for me to close down
for the night. today we'd spoken of satan, and the rastas have always called the western empire 'satan' or 'babylon', hence 'café babylon'. so tonight as we dream of a better tomorrow for the venezuelans, for the world...free of the chaos of loose cannon control by the failing great satan, let's hear from playing for change covering peter tosh's 'jah guide'.
good night, rest well.
wd
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morning additions:
a disgusting virtue-signaling psyop:
‘Venezuela's Juan Guaidó offers Nicolás Maduro amnesty if he goes quietly’; In TV interview opposition challenger says he is determined to bring an end to president’s ‘dictatorship’, the guardian
‘Washington escalates coup provocations in Venezuela’ bill van auken, 25 January 2019, wsws
‘Congresswoman who fixed Democratic primary for Clinton now ‘fixing’ democracy in Venezuela’ 25 Jan, 2019 RT
and via jeffrey st.clair at counterpunch:
Maduro should remember the Lessons...
Americans and those they support are NOT merciful. The best he can look forward to if he gives up is a quick execution. We have already seen what the worst looks like.
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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
my stars.
wicked bad production.
From their destiny they wake
Bring hypocrisy and hate...
i'd imagine he's pinging another assassination by drone bombs. that little video from the house foreign affairs committee was almost unbelievable, save for DWS's bits about '& investigate caracas's ties to putin'. goddam, has she always been that hideous and bitter looking?
how much will the CIA be paying his loyal generals to mutiny? as far as who uses the teargas, abby martin showed it was the opposition/golpistas in the street when she was there once or twice.
as predicted,
the 'how do you solve a problem like maduro' panel met,
A new path for Venezuela?
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I think what I hate most about America is
that our leaders are so corrupt and the people are too damn lazy and stupid to actually RESEARCH anything, from Clinton’s attempted soft coup to being able to see how OUR ‘betters’ avarice, cruelty, and amorality is causing so much misery in this world.
This country is so damn corrupt.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
really, i think it's
'willful' ignorance much of the time. pick a side, believe the bullshit, 'study' by way of confirmation bias sources (and your pocketbook including for re-election), and take the line
of least resistance. Even though we're used to it, so often it seems surreal to the Nth degree.
but was thinking of you and the Guardian fishwrap next story when i grabbed this link to: ‘Russian mercenaries reportedly in Venezuela to protect Maduro, Contractors linked to the Wagner group, which has carried out missions in Ukraine and Syria, reportedly travelled to Venezuela’, Andrew Roth in Moscow, Fri 25 Jan 2019
but ever a glutton for punishment, i looked at a small 'librul' site from my past, and found one of my friends countering the BS afoot with b at MOA's diary on the coup. They not only tried to laugh him outta the room, but were a vicious wolf pack about it in their hubristic assertions and attacks. but...he likes to argue, so he stays there to comment.
one commenter said there were reports that maduro and family had left caracas by jet to...russia, of course, hey debbie wasserman-shultz or what.ev.er.
yes, this nation is 'the great satan, babylon' accompanied by it's allies in crime.
additions for posterity:
‘Trump-bashing Iraq war architect Elliott Abrams to lead US regime change in Venezuela’, 26 Jan, 2019, RT
bill van auken at wsws describes Abrams as
‘US Appoints Elliott Abrams, Mastermind Behind Anti-Chavez 2002 Coup, to Lead New Venezuela Coup’, telesurenglish.net, jan. 25
‘Attempted Coup in Venezuela with Abby Martin, Greg Wilpert, Paul Jay’, trnn January 25, 2019 ...and this one has a transcript already. abby’s been on the streets in VZ more than once.