a psa: ‘Sept. 11th Legal Breakthrough’
‘U.S. Attorney For The Southern District Of New York Agrees To Comply With Federal Law Requiring That He Submit Evidence Of Still-Unprosecuted Federal Crimes At Ground Zero On 9/11 To A Special Criminal Grand Jury’, News provided by Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry [501(c)(3) nonprofit], Nov 28, 2018
This is the Lawyer’s Committee for 9/11 Inquiry: ‘about us’ page’; it’s Creative Commons if not for profit, and no changes are made.
NEW YORK, N.Y., Nov. 28, 2018 /PRNewswire/ — The Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry has received a letter from the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York in response to its and 9/11 Family Members’ Petitions (https://lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org/lc-doj-first-amended-grand-jury-petition/) demanding that he present submitted evidence of yet-to-be-prosecuted federal crimes relating to the destruction of WTCs 1, 2 and 7 to a Special Criminal Grand Jury. The letter states: “We have received and reviewed The Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry, Inc.’s submissions of April 10 and July 30, 2018. We will comply with the provisions of 18 U.S.C. § 3332 as they relate to your submissions.” (The letter is at https://lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org/7-nov-2018-u-s-attorney-geoffrey-berman-will-comply-with-18-usc-section-3332/).
18 U.S.C. § 3332 is clear on the steps that must be taken: “[a]ny such [U.S.] attorney receiving information concerning such an alleged offense from any other person shall … inform the [special] grand jury of such alleged offense, [and] the identity of such other person ….” The Lawyers’ Committee has thanked the U.S. Attorney and offered its support in presenting the evidence contained in its Petition to the Grand Jury.
The original and amended petitions, with their 57 exhibits (https://lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org/exhibits-index-grand-jury-petition/), present extensive evidence that preplaced explosives were used to destroy the three WTC high-rises on 9/11 including: expert analysis of seismic evidence supporting explosions prior to the plane impacts; scientific analysis of WTC dust samples showing high-tech explosives; first-hand reports of explosions by first responders; and analysis by architects and engineers that the collapses exhibited the characteristics of controlled demolitions.
Executive Director Ed Asner stated: “The U.S. Attorney’s decision to comply regarding our petitions is an important step towards greater transparency and accountability regarding the tragic events of 9/11.”
Attorney and Litigation Director Mick Harrison stated: “On behalf of the American people, the Lawyers’ Committee believes it is our civic duty as public citizens to submit this compelling evidence to the U.S. Attorney for submission to a grand jury.”
Attorney and Board Member William Jacoby stated: “We call upon the public and legal community to contact us (www.lcfor911.org) and support our efforts to ensure compliance by the Department of Justice.”
Related Links: http://www.lcfor911.org
Their about us page has this incredibly schmaltzy one from Sept. 6, 2017 featuring Ed Asner. Yeah, he was 88, and had been black-balled by the screen actor’s guild for his political views for a time (he was a Democratic Socialist), so we’ll cut him some slack, yes?
(cross-posted from Café Babylon)
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oh, fiddlesticks. the hyperlinks via easy copy have
disappeared again. this is the prsnewswire.com prnewswire.com link.
Whoa! This is big news
and it's about time that this was addressed.
present extensive evidence that preplaced explosives were used to destroy the three WTC high-rises on 9/11
In some videos of the collapse you can see the flashes going off before the floors join the free fall of the buildings. Plus the debris that falls has been pulverized by something, presumably explosives.
This could send the country into civil war if the truth gets told. Building 7 has always been the key. Never in history has any buildings collapsed in their footprints from a fire. Unless someone says to "pull it." Heh! Remember the lady across the pond was saying that it had collapsed 20 minutes before it actually did? Whoops ..
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
on the related links
page, there's another wee 1 min + video with that Q on it. sorry to say i couldn't click thru it, nor could i find it on youtube, although the group seems to have put up boatloads of videos. yeppers, it could be big, although no dates been set for a hearing, as far as i could tell. but the same page has oddles more testimony/facts in the face of...the official 9/11 commission report. and good on them; and good on the on edit:
judgeUS attorney, mr. wd had corrected me (i swear i'll learn to read some day soon), no?but gawd's blood, i watched the abby martin interview with randy credico in snatches: explosive stuff, including a lot of his decades of activism i hadn't known: prison and drug reform, activist for nicaragua, el salvador, and so on, and his joint civil rights venture w/ wm. kuntsler and another fellow. i've always loved his humor, as well as his impressions.
i scored the video!
(i'll explain how to mimi downthread.)
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KitPimk7W7w]
@wendy davis implosion.
Thanks, Wendy.
NYCVG
welcome amigo,
but i am simply the sherpa on this thread. ; )
Thanks for the psa, wendy
One of the most damning, provable, in your face facts that never gets mentioned is the daily presence of bomb sniffing dogs in those buildings.
Except they were called off for 9/11 sniff-through by the security company boss. That boss would be President Bush's brother.
If you call that suspicious, as opposed to coincidence, you must be a nut job. amirite?
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
welcome, and i'm guessing any one
of you is 12 times more informed than i am, on the cusp. but ed's flag-waving/democracy etc., aside, it did start the forever wars, which will never end until someone stops...the US. a café commenter used to say: 'those who can...will', somewhat enigmatically.
Velly intresting news.
Whenever I think of 9/11, I get pissed off, and am reminded of how absurd the day to day bullshit is. What we're talking about is a major, historically treasonous act against the U.S. by officials in our own government and those in "ally" countries.
But nobody can talk about that at the national level. It really is fucking amazing when you think about it and completely illustrates our overall situation.
This is what they are capable of.
Their acts against the people are/have been becoming more apparent, and now we have Herr Drumpf putting it on the stage.
I’ve researched 9/11 quite a bit. I was skeptical early on. I loved to watch building implosions (is that the correct term?), it fell straight down. When I saw the twin towers come down like that, I was questioning my brain - scanning my database - and came up with building implosion every time. Then, I watched a 2hr film questioning the narrative and pointing out how it had detonations on every floor. Building 7 came down the same way but without provocation. Etc.
Rambling, sorry, anyway, thanks for jogging that memory.
They did this to get the result Ed Asner describes. It is our reality.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
with this:
"Building 7 came down the same way but without provocation. Etc." may i take your meaning as 'external provocation by plane'?
Yes, precisely. n/t
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
yes, and here's hoping that
the US attorney will honestly allow their evidence, and it proves incendiary, and will be reported as such. kinda hard to believe that it actually might happen, and the GJ might call foul on the 'official report', though, isn't it?
snoopy says 'civil war'; i can't imagine that far into the future; i'm sorta stuck in time now.
Big Al,
We did it in a similar way at Pearl Harbor.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
What peace activist David Swanson can tell us about Pearl Harbor
https://washingtonsblog.com/2018/12/the-ancient-mythical-rites-of-pearl-...
thank you
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
I think I've come to the conclusion
that never once in the history of this nation has the populace been even remotely informed about the decision to go to war.
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
closing time's coming a bit early for me.
this closing song seems appropriate:
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10YeFhYGVJU]
I don't understand ... please clarify...
so there is still unexamined material that hasn't been disclosed to the public that may contain evidence that the towers came down through a sabotage act? (or any other way than the planes that hit the towers?)
All I remember that someone said somewhere that the proof is in the ashes of the towers and that those ashes had been shipped to China way too fast to not be suspicious and that those ashes could not be found anywhere.
When was that released? After GHWBush's death or before? I think two days before his death, November 28, right? Hmmm ...
I never attmepted to follow what was written and proved and disproved and proved again and then disproved again -out there-, after I asked an innocent questionway back in the days I was still a child, because I am so stupid and ignorant as someone who should try to do proper research and never does, that my question was indeed innocent, and I got a pretty clear answer from someone on the other place to shut up.
Why comes that decision now?
The steel went to China
why was the steel shipped to China? /nt
Only because China
I remember my son (military) was called to NYC
and digged in the steel debris to somehow haul it away. No other had the equipment to do that job other than the military. At least that is what I was told. It was a completely overwhelming experience to be a tiny something in the huge mountains of steel.
I think it would make sense to think to find traces of evidence in the steel beams, if it has been melted through something not related to the fire the explosion on the plane had caused.
Probably an unimaginable task to go through the debris with the intent to find those traces.
And it wouldn't have changed anything other than people not thinking about it 15 years later. And if they do they are called suspicious idiots or other labels.
I don't feel like an idiot. I ask question and want an answer. If they can't give the answer, it's their responsibility not mine.
your question's prompted me
to exercise 'due diligence'. i found the page showing the 57 evidenciary exhibits they'll bring; click on each one to see more. it's where i found the building 7 short video i'd mentioned earlier, and have given snoopydawg upthread.
thank you, Wendy, I will try, do you think I have
to be ashamed and feel guilty if I am not digging deeply into it? Am I a representative of the lazy and hopeless bystanders who have given up to at least try their best?
what a curious question,
especially as i'd intimated above to on the cusp that i'm pretty ignorant of all of this. i've only clicked into two of the exhibits so far myownself. as i didn't begin to have the correct answer to your question, i'd thought i'd hunt it down if i were able. turns out i found the video of building 7 imploding several folks wanted to see.
had all the lawyers committee hyperlinks come thru live, it may have been more than helpful, but since they hadn't, i thought i'd see what i could find. other than that, i've been spending time trying (and failing so far) why my firefox easy copy isn't working in cross-posting, when it had just a week or so ago. i still need to see if there's a way to get updates on the grand jury, although i have found the donate button, of course. ; )
and looking at another hot link just now, i found how i can sign the petition and get updates. the petition has a hella lot of info, as well. so sure, you can simmer down, poke about all you want or don't want. i sure don't want to try to become even close to an expert on what the truth of 9/11 is; i even fell asleep a few years ago watching the 9/11 widows film, and even forget what it was called.
some dude at my.firedoglake used to yell at me all the time for not 'having decided', implying if i did or had, it would make some big woop to The Deciders. he spent his life studying everything, and even making sculptural (not very good) art that was satisfying to his cause. can't think of his screen name now, either. ; )
Oops, Wendy, misunderstanding - I did not mean my question as
critique of your research and all you did for us. I admire it. I just realized reading here about the whole 911 stuff again that I am still angry about the one answer I got when I asked way back on TOP one little question and got more or less put down. As that still pops up in me and the memory of it makes me still angry, I decided to not bother reading a lot about all possible theories out there. But then I feel somehow bad that I don't try. The question was rhetorical to express my own frustrations and it was in no way related to your research or writing. Actually it is a real question, probably I need a shrink to get an answer.
And PS: I remembered all the footage of Building 7, I could never forget it.
Peace, because I can't stand anything else. My German education didn't include 'debate club lessons". And there is nothing more difficult for me to either understand sarcasm, snark or lingo that Americans use. I also realize that it's the same the other way around. Few Americans realize when Germans are subtly sarcastic. It's the language barrier. The tower of Bable is difficult to climb. (I hope that fits, I am not religious and have no real ideas what's in the bible stories and what they exactly are supposed to mean).
If you don't believe it, I DO like and appreciate almost ALL of what people research and write here. I am hooked to this place. I hug you all. And am only angry that your write faster and more than I am capable of reading.
Peace.
peace to you, as well,
amiga. this was almost effortless copy/paste, save for the easy copy hyperlink fails i couldn't mend within the html code. i'm a bit like you in that i'd thought even if i knew everything, what difference could i make? i blogged for a short time at an odious place where there were a few who claimed to have engineering degrees, and totally believe the Offishul 9/11 Commission report. i at least knew enough to know that was all basically hooey, but i just watched the faux debate around it. at least i knew enough to STFU.
we simply can't satisfy our curiosity on every subject, so we have to pick and choose, imo.
for instance, for me: bitcoin, modern monetary theory, any number of theories such as chaos, game, which philosophers believe x, y, or z, and tra la la. usually it's good to know what one knows, doesn't know, and might want to know, i reckon. gotta get back to my bread; three loaves' worth waiting for me to pop them in pans for their final rise.
sweet response, thanks /nt
it might have been
'sweeter' as per your take, because for some odd reason i wasn't in the pain i usually am. that pain can can turn me into a short-tempered hell bitch (h/t larry mcmurtry).
as far as shrinks, i've found most of them we took our chirren to, worse than useless, but i did work with a body-centered one (may he rest in power) who'd helped me and taught me a lot.
hang in there, miz mimi: it's a hard road, a hard rain's ahead, or should i say 'harder rain'?
Exhibit One nails it right off the bat
Livermore National Laboratory
good-o, then.
now i may be going far afield asking this, and i'm not sure they could have any evidence demonstrating the theory that one reason for choosing the trade center was to destroy financial records. heh, i just bingled as i was thinking how to ask the Q, and found this at ha, 911myths.com, debunking the theory:
"Donald Rumsfeld announced that more than $2 trillion in Pentagon funds had gone missing. He made this astonishing statement on September 10th, perfect timing to keep the story from making any news."
just scanning, but one of the zillion links and quotes goes to http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/trillions.html, Missing trillions.
well, anyhoo....♪just whistle while ya work, da da da da da da da...♫
edit on later ping: washington's blog page on 9/11 claimed that whatever hit the pentagon sure wasn't a plane. wot?
It's become second nature
... I think, when analyzing or projecting geopolitical outcomes, to factor in the still-activated self-wounding events of 9/11.
I mention this merely to note that no discussion od the matter is required. No conformation is necessary. The first two decades of the new millennium are proof enough. Like pi, it's a calculated constant that is plugged in because it solves an array of external equations elsewhere in the world when the US is involved. In this case, it's a factor that, for now, anchors reality in a way that can accurately reveal the near-term future. I cannot imagine a country that doesn't use this coefficient when calculating strategic interactions with the United States.
Of course, there is no speculative discussion of the event and it's particulars outside the US, either. At least, not a public one.
One can predict where this will go, without even breaking a sweat. People know in their hearts what's what.
Populations don’t like wars. They have to be lied into it.
That means we can be “truthed” into peace. — Julian Assange
i'm having trouble decoding
your sobering comment, amigo, even after several reads. first i'd thought that you've used 'conformation' advisedly, as in 'the the whitewashed official 9/11 commission report' had to conform to the conclusion that Amerika was attacked by saudis under the command of osama bin laden', and 'we will seek out the related perpetrators and unleash the dogs of war in defense of Amerika, even if it means Occupying their nations and bring them Democracy for Some™. but then again, you may have meant that 'no confirmation is necessary, we all know it was an inside job'.
my apologies for being thick about it. but what is the 'this' in this sentence, please? "One can predict where this will go, without even breaking a sweat. People know in their hearts what's what." i can read that two ways as well.
"No confirmation is necessary"
Is what I meant to type, just as you speculated.
The "this" as used here:
It's what goes through one's head when they're dealing with a truly unreachable and violent psychopath in a fight over the "principle of the thing." It's like that climax of road rage when a crazy person whips out their gun, "'cause it's worth it, man!"
If we accept the fact that the US would false-flag attack its own city to whip its people into a war frenzy — as our opponents now suspect — then they know the US mad dogs would blow up the planet if they can't be the supreme rulers. For them, co-leadership with 'communists' is like staring into the abyss. But Russia and China and Iran and India/Pakistan are not going to surrender to a snarling nation with a bogus narrative that cannot be trusted to honor its agreements and treaties.
They don't want to die just because an insane AshkaNazi cabal has seized control of the US government. So they're trying to run out the clock until these motherfuckers die already.
Populations don’t like wars. They have to be lied into it.
That means we can be “truthed” into peace. — Julian Assange
And they are working
We can't say 'merry Christmas' (or it is frowned upon) but we can still say happy hanukkah.
dfarrah
i think dervish had
twigged to your meaning before i had, but i than you for the more fulsome decoding of your comment. seriously. and while i sigh x 3, i agree.
The other constant that must be factored in
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
does pluto's use of 'self-wounding'
convey to you on the order of 'who's the client, who's the state: amerika or israel, dervish?
“False flag” attacks are an ever-present key factor in history
The record admits of no other conclusion, if one actually goes and looks at it.
https://washingtonsblog.com/2016/09/false-flags-3.html
i was waiting to see
if A. would ever get to the gulf of tonkin; he did. but here's the link to his 9/11 theories page, although when clicking into a link or two and attempting to
ha, i knew i wouldn't
be able to resist. dave lindorf, dissident voice, june 2, 2017:
... there we go again ... sigh, glad you couldn't resist /nt
smile
I'm speechless...
...I'm...utterly speechless.
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
'bout what, moonie?
that the US attorney has agreed to their petition?
Why are we always surprised?
The absolute contempt our government has subjected it's people to over the last 40 years kinda says how they feel, We're just an obstacle. Now that they pretty much have our young people as indentured servants forever, maybe they can institute single candidate elections.
only 40?
seriously, you must have some event in mind, yes? i can't even do the arithmetic without getting a pencil and paper out.
Yeah, me either
ha, i like pulling time
outta one's ass, snode. in fact, i'd go so far as to say i recommend it! ; )
with respect to your thesis, it's a pretty good milestone.
after all, an incumbent President who had:
A. Increased military spending
B. Reduced the federal deficit
C. launched The Great Deregulation
was electorally deposed by an opponent whose essential platform was:
A. Increase military spending
B. Reduce the federal deficit
C. Deregulate industry.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
not mine to respond to,
but as per one of you bullet points, it was bubba clinton who'd been in charge of earlier safeguard deregulations. CMFT and graham-leach-bliley (overturning glass-steagall).
i was referring to the 1980 election
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
ah, i see now.
you'd said 'deregulation of industry;, not of wall street. reagan also stopped unions in their tracks (patco strikes). thanks for the correction.
i'm feelin' rode hard 'n put up wet.
for no apparent reason to me, this is tonight's closing song:
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6r2P4W9Yog]
wishing you all a good New Moon; may sleep well and dream well.