(Booby has a back-up plan): Saudis Close to Crown Prince Discussed Assassinating Enemies a Year Before Khashoggi Killing

Yes! It’s Trump’s fault!

Now this story in interesting enough on its own, but there’s an interesting twist to it that makes you say “WTF is going on here and when will it ever end?” At least it did me.

Saudis Close to Crown Prince Discussed Assassinating Enemies a Year Before Khashoggi Killing

WASHINGTON — Top Saudi intelligence officials close to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman asked a small group of businessmen last year about using private companies to assassinate Iranian enemies of the kingdom, according to three people familiar with the discussions.

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Saudi officials have portrayed Mr. Khashoggi’s death as a rogue killing ordered by an official who has since been fired. But that official, Maj. Gen. Ahmed al-Assiri, was present for a meeting in March 2017 in Riyadh, the Saudi capital, where the businessmen pitched a $2 billion plan to use private intelligence operatives to try to sabotage the Iranian economy.

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As for the businessmen, who had intelligence backgrounds, they saw their Iran plan both as a lucrative source of income and a way to cripple a country that both they and the Saudis considered a profound threat. George Nader, a Lebanese-American businessman. arranged the meeting. He had met previously with Prince Mohammed, and had pitched the Iran plan to Trump White House officials. Another participant in the meetings was Joel Zamel, an Israeli with deep ties to his country’s intelligence and security agencies.

Both Mr. Nader and Mr. Zamel are witnesses in the investigation by Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel, and prosecutors have asked them about their discussions with American and Saudi officials about the Iran proposal. It is unclear how this line of inquiry fits into Mr. Mueller’s broader inquiry. In 2016, a company owned by Mr. Zamel, Psy-Group, had pitched the Trump campaign on a social media manipulation plan.

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During the March 2017 meeting about the plan to sabotage Iran’s economy, according to the three people familiar with the discussions, the Saudis asked the businessmen whether they also “conducted kinetics” — lethal operations — saying they were interested in killing senior Iranian officials. The businessmen hesitated, saying they would need to consult their lawyer.

The lawyer flatly rejected the plan, and the businessmen told the Saudis they would not take part in any assassinations. Mr. Nader told the Saudis about a London-based company run by former British special operations troops that might take on the contract. It is unclear which company he suggested.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/11/world/middleeast/saudi-iran-assassina...

It’s not like this story doesn’t have enough plot twists and revelations to it, but now It turns out that shit stirrer Booby Mueller has his gnarly fingers in THIS pot too. That meeting in the Seychelles? No Trump ‘team’ member was there. More on that below.

This Nader guy is really something:

Mueller probe: Who is George Nader, convicted paedophile?

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But MBZ's former adviser has a dark history of child abuse. Nader has used his international visits to import child pornography since at least 1985, according to court testimony from one of his defence attorneys, pled guilty to child pornography charges in 1991 and has been convicted of committing sex acts with 10 underage boys in Europe.

The 58-year-old, who has largely remained out of the public eye since his career began, has become an integral part of the US investigation into alleged foreign meddling in American politics.

Nader is reportedly being questioned over his involvement in arranging meetings between US President Donald Trump's team and representatives of the UAE and Russia in the Seychelles, and possibly working to further the UAE's goals with the American government.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2018/04/mueller-...

What does Booby base his interest and justification for this investigation on? Are there no limits to what or who Booby can investigate? This is not kosher.

George Nader, one of the Trump-Russia investigation’s most mysterious figures, explained

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Nader, a Lebanese American who has acted as a mediator and back-channel diplomat in Middle Eastern affairs for decades, has reportedly agreed to cooperate with special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia in exchange for immunity.

It’s possible that Nader has valuable information on the Trump transition team’s meetings with foreign officials that have puzzled investigators for months. And Mueller’s investigators are looking into how he may have funneled Emirati money to a top Trump fundraiser to influence the White House’s Middle East policy.

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The second event was in January 2017 in Seychelles, a collection of islands in the Indian Ocean. That meeting included Nader; bin Zayed; Kirill Dmitriev, a Russian fund manager with close ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin; and Erik Prince, the founder of the private security firm Blackwater and an informal adviser to the Trump transition team.

The Mueller probe is also investigating how Nader might have helped the UAE buy political influence in the Trump White House by striking huge business deals with a top Trump fundraiser. That raises the question of whether Mueller’s probe is casting a wider net to track the possible influence of countries other than Russia on Trumpworld.

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The globe-trotting power broker could be a key source of information for the Mueller probe for a number of reasons. The Seychelles meeting is of special interest regarding the question of collusion with Russia. Prince, the Blackwater founder, has denied that he was representing the Trump transition team during the meeting. And Dmitriev, the Russian fund manager, has described it as an informal and friendly gathering.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/28/17165410/george-nader-...

So, is this another case of Mueller rooting around in the the business and political (and probably personal) activities of everyone surrounding Trump and then putting the squeeze on them for dirt. I thought it was freaking RUSSIANS!!! that we were blaming for Trump being in office. Now Erik Prince was a member (unofficially) of Trump’s transition team? Who’s next? What’s next? The Dims have subpoena power now. The possibilities are endless.

Here’s why I think Mueller is never going to let up. The Wall Street Journal has an article up saying that the Clinton Creature is definitely going for a third try. I can give you a link and a paragraph to it but I don’t subscribe so if someone here does I would be extremely grateful for a couple more snips. The thought of her back in the campaign trail just freaks me out. Unfortunately for us all, I’m betting that she does run again.

Hillary Will Run Again
Reinventing herself as a liberal firebrand, Mrs. Clinton will easily capture the 2020 nomination.

By Mark Penn and Andrew Stein
Nov. 11, 2018 2:13 p.m. ET
Get ready for Hillary Clinton 4.0. More than 30 years in the making, this new version of Mrs. Clinton, when she runs for president in 2020, will come full circle—back to the universal-health-care-promoting progressive firebrand of 1994.

True to her name, Mrs. Clinton will fight this out until the last dog dies. She won’t let a little thing like two stunning defeats stand in the way of her claim to the White House.

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/hillary-will-run-again-1541963599

Liberal firebrand my tired old butt.

I swear she’s going to run so in order to make her look ‘respectable and acceptable’, they’re going to have to go after Trump with everything they can dig or make up. I dread the next two years.

I didn’t know anything about any of this crap. I certainly didn’t know Booby was working with a convicted child molester on another scheme to bring down trump for something something with a foreign power. (I am getting soooo confused.) And that something something messed with the election. Now if we’re throwing in shady dealings that Eric Prince might be connected to, we could be here for a while.

One final question: who the Hell wasn’t a Trump adviser? Official or otherwise? What scoundrel is left that we can hang around his neck? (Rhetorical question. I’m sure we’ll find out shortly.)

Trump should have released those FISA applications before the midterm election.

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snoopydawg's picture

Are there no limits to what or who Booby can investigate?

Rosenstein told Mueller to go where he was led while investigating the Trump-Vlad collusion. This is why he was able to go after Manafort for what he did before he joined Trump's campaign.

But I don't think that Mueller would be upset about Israel hiring people to kill Iranian people since our long term goals are to regime change Iran.

Here's an article about Herheinous running again that covers what the WSJ wrote. ?

Hillary Clinton will run for president again in 2020, former adviser says

Hillary Clinton will run for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2020, according to a former adviser and a top Democrat in New York.

Mark Penn, a pollster and senior adviser to former President Bill Clinton and ex-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton from 1995-2008, and Andrew Stein, a former Manhattan Democratic party figure and New York City Council president, wrote Sunday in a Wall Street Journal opinion piece that the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee would not let "two stunning defeats stand in the way of her claim to the White House."

"Mrs. Clinton has come unbound. She will not allow this humiliating loss at the hands of an amateur to end the story of her career," Penn and Stein wrote of President Trump, explaining how Clinton would re-package herself as a more liberal "Hillary Clinton 4.0." "You can expect her to run for president once again. Maybe not at first, when the legions of Senate Democrats make their announcements, but definitely by the time the primaries are in full swing."

"Mrs. Clinton has a 75% approval rating among Democrats, an unfinished mission to be the first female president, and a personal grievance against Mr. Trump, whose supporters pilloried her with chants of 'Lock her up!' This must be avenged," the pair continued.

Good lord! Gag me with whatever instrument is available.

"She will enter through the front door, mobilizing the army of professional women behind her, leveraging her social networks, and raking in donation. She will hope to emerge as an unstoppable force to undo Mr. Trump, running on the #MeToo movement, universal health care and gun control. Proud and independent, this time she will sideline Bill and Mr. Obama, limiting their role to fundraising," they wrote of Clinton.

Whittaker who is taking Sessions' place as attorney general has stated that he disagrees with Comey that "no prosecutor would charge Hillary for using her private email server." He discussed what laws she broke and said that she should be charged under the espionage act.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

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@snoopydawg

Expect Hillary 4.0 to come out swinging. She has decisively to win those Iowa caucus-goers who have never warmed up to her. They will see her now as strong, partisan, left-leaning and all-Democrat—the one with the guts, experience and steely-eyed determination to defeat Mr. Trump. She has had two years to go over what she did wrong and how to take him on again.

Richard Nixon came back from his loss to John F. Kennedy in 1960 and won the presidency in 1968. He will be the model for winning again. Mrs. Clinton won’t travel the country in a van with Huma Abedin this time, doing small events and retail politics. Instead she will enter through the front door, mobilizing the army of professional women behind her, leveraging her social networks, and raking in donations. She will hope to emerge as an unstoppable force to undo Mr. Trump, running on the #MeToo movement, universal health care and gun control. Proud and independent, this time she will sideline Bill and Mr. Obama, limiting their role to fundraising.

The generation of Democrats who have been waiting to take over the party from the Clintons will be fuming that she is back and stealing their show. But they revealed themselves to be bungling amateurs in the Brett Kavanaugh nomination fight, with their laughable Spartacus moments. She will trounce them. Just as Mr. Trump cleared the field, Mrs. Clinton will take down rising Democratic stars like bowling pins. Mike Bloomberg will support her rather than run, and Joe Biden will never be able to take her on.

Don’t pay much attention to the “I won’t run” declarations. Mrs. Clinton knows both Mr. Clinton and Mr. Obama declared they weren’t running, until they ran. She may even skip Iowa and enter the race later, but rest assured that, one way or another, Hillary 4.0 is on the way.

Mr. Penn was a pollster and senior adviser to Bill and Hillary Clinton from 1995-2008. Mr. Stein is a former Democratic Manhattan borough president and president of the New York City Council.

https://apple.news/AB3SvxdyXRBuF_T5R4HrYng

My, these guys had some sharp words for the current crop of newly elected Dims, didn’t they? They’re probably right, we’ll never be rid of her until she wants to go. And it is obvious that she doesn’t want to go. This is still the Party of Clinton.

But how can her approval rating among Dims be 75%? I think someone pulled that number out of his hat (or elsewhere).

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Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

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@Amanda Matthews More power to her acolytes, pushing into the front rank of elite grifters, covered by melting social justice warriors to propel her further progress into the white house. This is Hillary's event horizon--she will never see that long-plotted self-aggrandizement due to inevitable forces of gravity pulling her down with all her baggage. The odds of her winning in 2020 from a jail cell are about as good as Eugene Debs's run for president while vacationing in a federal grabber hotel, courtesy of "he kept us out of war" (until Brown Brothers Harriman told him it was okay).

Yes, I have been hoping that this would come about for a long time: run, Hillary, run!

I wonder how many of her would-be competition will be found to have Arkincided?

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@Alligator Ed

that the Democrats want to lose? How long does this have to go on before their so-called base begins to notice a pattern? They did everything possible to enforce and enable anti-labor, anti-social justice policy under Bill, they did everything possible to bail out multinational banks, create new wars, ignore justice for Bush crimes, kiss the rings of Saudi princes under Barack Obama, and could barely get away with blaming some of it on Republicans in Congress.

With the crimes highlighted in the DNC emails about money laundering, they used what would have been donations for Democrats running for Congress and for state offices for HER instead, thereby causing the loss of positions nation-wide. They want to lose. They work for the banks and the MIC. They want you to think they're not Republicans.

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@snoopydawg took in re prosecution of Clinton.
And how is Nader, a presumably registered sex offender, able to travel? A sex offender in Texas must figure out how to drive to work without driving through a school zone, as that is an arrestable offense.
How does he obtain visas?
Mueller appears to have the authority to investigate a shoplifter in Kenya, should the occasion arise, but this exemplar of aggressive prosecutorial muscle can't touch Clinton?

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From the Hill

“True to her name, Mrs. Clinton will fight this out until the last dog dies,” the pair wrote. “She won’t let a little thing like two stunning defeats stand in the way of her claim to the White House.”

They said Clinton will not allow her “humiliating loss” to President Trump during the 2016 presidential election end her political career.

“You can expect her to run for president once again,” they predicted. “Maybe not at first, when the legions of Senate Democrats make their announcements, but definitely by the time the primaries are in full swing.”

She has two years to review what went wrong during her last campaign bid and make a strategy, they wrote.

“She has decisively to win those Iowa caucus-goers who have never warmed up to her,” they wrote. “They will see her now as strong, partisan, left-leaning and all-Democrat—the one with the guts, experience and steely-eyed determination to defeat Mr. Trump.”

The former Democratic presidential nominee left the door open to a possible 2020 run last month, saying that even though she doesn't want to run, "I'd like to be president."

I have no idea why Mueller would be investigating Kashoggi's death, but if he's really interested in who killed him he should ask the U.K. intelligence agencies because they knew 3 weeks in advance that he was going to be killed by MBS. Why. Apparently he was going to tell the world that the Saudis were using chemical weapons in Yemen.

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There are some pretty good comments on it, none of which are flattering to Her Heinous.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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@gulfgal98 Her to run. I agree with this guy. Here’s how it’ll be set up:

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

I can think of some candidates.

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Mary Bennett

is doing to Shillary what she tried to do to him, set her up for a fall? I do think he would like to run against her again. Her increasing decrepitude, her shrill me me meism, her corruption would distract attention away from his age, narcissism, and corruption.

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Mary Bennett

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@Nastarana into her pre-existing and slowly advancing dementia. I would love to have videos of her pacing in her rubber room, wearing a straight jacket, declaiming: "Let me out, I'm the President!"

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@Alligator Ed

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hmPtFeR0v0&t=56s
Tracy Beanz did an informative piece on Matthew Whitaker. Sure would be nice to see Her charged.
OTOH Trump would love to run against her again.
Q: How do you get someone elected President?
A: Have them run against HRC

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chuck utzman

TULSI 2020

gulfgal98's picture

@chuckutzman to get to the Clintons legally, but the easiest is through the Clinton Foundation. Charles Ortel has pursued the Clinton Foundation for charity fraud. There is a lot of illegality associated with the Clinton Foundation, but this would be first and easiest to prove since Ortel has already done all the heavy lifting in compiling the data on the Clinton Foundation.

Charles Ortel is a private investor and writer who has been exposing multinational and nonprofit fraud since 2007, following a career in corporate finance, mergers and acquisitions and investment management. Since early 2015, Charles has been investigating state, federal, and foreign filings of the Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation as well as those of the many affiliates of that entity, which holds itself out as being a publicly supported charity. Based on his ongoing review of this evidence, Charles believes this network of charities is the largest unprosecuted and ongoing fraud in history, involving sums that may reach many hundreds of billions of dollars or more, counting presently known affiliates and donors as well as insiders who may have garnered illegal private gains through their involvement.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

@gulfgal98
she keeps running for president is so the stupid statement by Comey, that

http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-94492128/

"Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case..."

The only thing that makes that statement appear reasonable is that some slime molds believe no one would prosecute a person running for president in the middle of a campaign.

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Yeah, like that's going to fool anyone. In 2016, she tried portraying herself as a moderate who was proud of her conservative roots and even that did not fool anyone.

Get ready for Hillary Clinton 4.0. More than 30 years in the making, this new version of Mrs. Clinton, when she runs for president in 2020, will come full circle—back to the universal-health-care-promoting progressive firebrand of 1994.

As always, Mark Penn, engineer of the plan to present Obama as "the other" during the 2008 primary, is as full of shit as ever. In 1994, Hillary was a proselytizing member of the DNC, taking credit for Bill's health care plan, which was fresh off the presses of the Heritage Foundation. Heritage got it from a group of Jackson Hole conservatives who were dismayed by Nixon's health care plan because it included an employer mandate.*

The conservatives threw the employer mandate out the window, replacing it with an individual mandate. Good luck convincing anyone that a health insurance bailout via an individual mandate applicable to young, healthy people is the idea of a liberal firebrand.

And, of course, nothing says "authentic" and "trustworthy" like Hillary 1.0 trying to pass as Hillary 4.0.

As for Nader, for a hideous half second, I imagined the OP was referencing 80 year old Lebanese American Christian and sainted activist, Ralph Nader, rather than the distinctly distasteful sex offender, Lebanese American Christian George Nader.

For more complete background, please see my three-part series, Who will own lack of a (good) national health care plan:?

Part One https://caucus99percent.com/content/who-will-own-lack-good-national-heal...

Part Two https://caucus99percent.com/content/who-will-own-lack-good-national-heal...

Part Three https://caucus99percent.com/content/who-will-own-lack-good-national-heal...

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