Insurance Companies Are So Afraid Trump 'Wrote' An OP-ED

Submitted by divineorder on Wed, 10/10/2018 - 1:58pm

Imagine that, Mr. Trump wrote an op-ed. Nope. Can't imagine it.


Insurance Companies Are So Afraid Trump 'Wrote' An OP-ED

They, along with big pharma, big hospital, have been spending huge amounts to stop Medicare for All.

And what do they have to show for it? Heh.

Even majority Republicans in one poll are supporting Medicare for All.

We’ve reached a turning point in our politics.

Democrats have consistently shown big money's power over them. Remember?

But we will see.

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Submitted by divineorder on Wed, 10/10/2018 - 2:09pm
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eye exam this afternoon. Will check back for comments later.

EXPENSIVE!

Wouldn't go but my mother had shots in her eye for macular degneration so want to stay on top of things.

Never have had dental or vision insurance. Would love to be covered!

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 10/10/2018 - 4:20pm
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@divineorder

managing the disorder. I left the field just as this treatment was being studied. Eye diseases are covered under medical insurance.

As a result, congressional lawmakers must eventually choose whether to side with Americans, or with special interests.

I'm guessing which way they will vote. Trump is the best puppet money can buy and it didn't come from Russia.

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Submitted by divineorder on Wed, 10/10/2018 - 4:32pm
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@snoopydawg Now she has Alz/Dem ....

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Submitted by divineorder on Wed, 10/10/2018 - 7:04pm
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@snoopydawg in the machine.

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Submitted by doh1304 on Wed, 10/10/2018 - 5:27pm

@divineorder
If mainstream politicians ever do a MFA plan it is sure to provide as little as possible. It will be designed to fail, made to be hated, and mandate a "Medicare advantage plan" that will cost more than any previous health insurance policy while also providing less.

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Submitted by Unabashed Liberal on Wed, 10/10/2018 - 3:15pm
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tracking the carnage in the path of Michael (including potentially our property), I'll be back to comment on several of the articles that you've linked to. The idea that DT wrote the Op-Ed--or, does anything beyond 'Tweeting' and watching 'Fox and Friends'--is laughable, as Michael Hiltzik stated.

I've found '7' different MFA proposals in a quick search this afternoon, and will post their titles/descriptions so that folks can check them out (on their own, if they'd care to). Unfortunately, due to 'Michael', won' t have time this evening to provide a great deal of detail.

(We're in total dread of what the next several days may bring, since our property has massive numbers of huge pine trees, which could be uprooted/snapped. Fingers crossed!)

Later . . .

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Submitted by divineorder on Wed, 10/10/2018 - 4:34pm
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@Unabashed Liberal Did you see joe's link to Medicare article in today's Evening Blues?

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Submitted by Unabashed Liberal on Wed, 10/10/2018 - 5:42pm
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commented at EB. Of course, I come at it from the perspective of looking at MA from the outside (as you know). Guess with ACOs nipping at our feet (those of us in Traditional/FFS Medicare, that is)--we'll all be in the same boat, eventually.

Know that you and JB have a better than usual MA plan, in several aspects (thought your RX plan was especially good). Hope it's working out well for both of you. Don't know, but, I suspect that what your teacher's union is sponsoring for you Guys, is much better than what folks could get buying into 'individual' MA plans.

Will drop back in a few, and leave the names/titles of the MFA proposals I mentioned. Hopefully, some of you Guys may have run across some info on them, and can fill in a few blanks. I can only remember bits and pieces, so, would rather wait until I have time to provide links, to say much about them (for fear of mixing them up).

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Submitted by divineorder on Thu, 10/11/2018 - 1:28pm
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@Unabashed Liberal Not to mention monthly premium and a
out of pocket deductible.

TRS forced by the Leg to switch to another drug option. My maintenance med copay went from $15 to 23.

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Submitted by dkmich on Wed, 10/10/2018 - 3:34pm

I have my absentee ballot open on my table. I've pretty well decided how I'm going to vote. I just wish it mattered.

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Submitted by divineorder on Wed, 10/10/2018 - 4:30pm
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Yeah, a decided lack of enthusiasm.

Still, some are out there working ....

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Submitted by MrWebster on Wed, 10/10/2018 - 4:54pm

The bad news is that even horrid propaganda works. The good news is that the ideological battle over health care policy is going the way of Medicare for all such that Trump has to engage his base to generate opposition to Medicare for All. Tapper propaganda at CNN and the lackeys at Fox ain't working.

So what will corporate dems with their anti-Medicare for All leader Hillary Clinton do? I wonder if they will go on this "I am fighting for Obamacare" bullshit as a way of not supporting MfA.

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Submitted by Unabashed Liberal on Wed, 10/10/2018 - 8:12pm
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'guessing' that pre-midterms, even the most conservative/corporatist of Dem lawmakers will (at least) feign support for MFA. I say that because even TN US Rep Jim Cooper--Greater Nashville, etc.--claims to support MFA.

Couldn't be more of a joke, since he's a member of the New Dem, Blue Dog, and No Labels Coalitions.

Tenure

Cooper is a member of the Blue Dog Coalition[1] and the New Democrat Coalition[25] and generally has a moderate voting record.

Cooper voted for the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act in March 2010.[31] In 2009 the ThinkProgress website reported that a Daily Kos poll "found that 60 percent of his constituents disapprove of his handling of the health care issue."[32]

In July 2011, Cooper was one of five Democrats to vote for the Cut, Cap, and Balance Act.[33]

In January 2013, Cooper was the only Democrat in the House to vote against an emergency bill to provide disaster and recovery funds in the wake of Hurricane Sandy.[38]

Cooper Named a "Problem-Solver" by No Labels
Oct 11, 2012

Mark McKinnon, founder of No Labels, sent the following press release today naming Jim Cooper a problem-solver.

No Labels Gives Problem-Solvers Seal to Rep. Jim Cooper

No Labels Commends Tennessee Lawmaker's Commitment to Problem Solving/Problem Solvers

This week No Labels gave the Problem-Solvers Seal of Approval to Rep. Jim Cooper of Tennessee's 5th Congressional District. The Problem-Solvers Seal is awarded to candidates or legislators who agree to join No Labels' emerging "Problem-Solvers Bloc," a group of lawmakers who are dedicated to working across the aisle to discuss effective, principled and pragmatic solutions to our country's problems. Cooper has committed to join the bloc.

Whew!

Biggrin

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Submitted by MrWebster on Wed, 10/10/2018 - 11:47pm

@Unabashed Liberal Yah, the phonies know how to play it.

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Submitted by Unabashed Liberal on Wed, 10/10/2018 - 9:00pm
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sort of a rush job, so, can't guarantee that there aren't more MFA plans. But, for starters,

1) [Universal] Medicare-for-all bill from Sen. Bernie Sanders

2) A Medicare buy-in bill from Sens. Tim Kaine and Michael Bennet - aka Medicare 'X'

3) A Medicaid buy-in bill from Sen. Brian Schatz*

*My bad--subtract this proposal from MFA buy-in plan list; clearly, a Medicaid buy-in plan.

4) A Medicare “extra”-for-all proposal from the Center for American Progress, an influential liberal think tank that has strong ties to Clinton-land

5) This new Medicare buy-in bill from Sens. Murphy and Merkley - aka Medicare 'E'.

Below's a link to the five related plans, above.

Democrats now have 5 competing plans to expand government health care

6) Medicare at 55 Act

Eight (8) Democratic senators announced Thursday that they were co-sponsoring legislation that would allow people 55 and older to buy in to Medicare.

POLITICS 08/04/2017 12:17 pm ET Updated Aug 04, 2017

Senate Democrats Introduce Bill Allowing Medicare Buy-In At 55

The announcement shows how the party’s health care views are shifting to the left.
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By Daniel Marans

Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.) introduced the Medicare at 55 Act with the immediate support of Democratic Sens. Tammy Baldwin (Wis.), Sheldon Whitehouse (R.I.), Sherrod Brown (Ohio), Jeff Merkley (Ore.), Patrick Leahy (Vt.), Jack Reed (R.I.) and Al Franken (Minn.).

The bill, which would allow Americans aged 55 to 64 to purchase Medicare coverage, reflects the growing influence of progressive activists who are pushing for a single-payer health care system they dub “Medicare for all.”

Although the bill stops short of making Medicare universal, its embrace of expanded public health insurance, rather than the private model at the heart of the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, marks a distinct leftward shift for the party.

7) Medicare Buy-In and Health Care Stabilization Act

Stabenow’s bill echoes a similar effort underway in the House of Representatives. In July, Democratic Reps. Jon Larson (Conn.), Brian Higgins (N.Y.) and Joe Courtney (Conn.) announced that they would be introducing the Medicare Buy-In and Health Care Stabilization Act.

The bill would permit Americans aged 50 or older to buy in to Medicare for as little as $8,212 a year ― a significant savings for a 60-year-old currently purchasing a high-ranking “gold” plan on the exchange for an estimated $13,308, according to the congressmen’s offices.

(My Note: or, $684.33 per month)

The legislation, which they plan to formally introduce in September, would also allot funding and take other measures to stabilize the exchanges. Including Larson, Higgins and Courtney, the bill currently has 15 co-sponsors.

8) HR 676 - Expanded & Improved Medicare For All Act (John Conyers, Jr)

Hopefully, once everything normalizes--maybe by next week--I'll try to put a little more meat on the bones, as they say. Wink

Have a good one!

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Submitted by divineorder on Thu, 10/11/2018 - 1:24pm
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@Unabashed Liberal on this, but will understand if you don't!

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