This Is a Constitutional Crisis

This Is a Constitutional Crisis

A cowardly coup from within the administration threatens to enflame the president’s paranoia and further endanger American security
David Frum | 4:54 PM ET

Impeachment is a constitutional mechanism. The Twenty-Fifth Amendment is a constitutional mechanism. Mass resignations followed by voluntary testimony to congressional committees are a constitutional mechanism. Overt defiance of presidential authority by the president’s own appointees—now that’s a constitutional crisis.

If the president’s closest advisers believe that he is morally and intellectually unfit for his high office, they have a duty to do their utmost to remove him from it, by the lawful means at hand. That duty may be risky to their careers in government or afterward. But on their first day at work, they swore an oath to defend the Constitution—and there were no “riskiness” exemptions in the text of that oath.

On Wednesday, though, a “senior official in the Trump administration” published an anonymous op-ed in The New York Times, writing:

Many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations. I would know. I am one of them.

The author of the anonymous op-ed is hoping to vindicate the reputation of like-minded senior Trump staffers. See, we only look complicit! Actually, we’re the real heroes of the story.

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/569443/

I’m damn sick of ‘anonymous sources’ and ‘people close to ______ have told ‘us’.

We are way past ‘put up or shut up’ time. We are now firmly planted in ‘some peoples could be getting themselves in some pretty hot water here’ time what with their arrogance and inability to keep from patting themselves on the back.

I can’t speak for anyone but myself but I’m sick of unknowns (the Trump administration schmuck who wrote that op-ed) or knowns (James Comey, Brennan & Ohr)) giving themselves powers and abilities ‘far beyond those of mortal’ politicos and crooked government appointees and employees. When was the election held that said it’s now okay for the unelected to wield power by hook or by crook? Or for the elected to use the Intelligence community for personal/partisan malfeasance, namely to, 1) throw an election; or in case that fails; 2) delegitimize the administration of the winner.

The Orange Menace and his revolving door of inept and/or corrupt appointees has played into Mueller’s hands. Certainly after publicly telling the country they hide important papers from him even TOM has to understand that he needs to get some control of the situation. Hell bells, and here I thought the Omarosa thing screamed “the inmates ARE running the asylum.

And here I am, citing an article by David Frum in the Atlantic. I don’t care what anyone says, I’m not giving him a piece of candy.

The inhabitants of Alice’s Wonderland got nothing on DC crazies and their accomplices. Both sides.

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Pricknick's picture

Told you so.
It's not a crisis. It's where we belong.
Ask the Romans how it worked out.
Now put your mind on acceleration. Here we go.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

Bollox Ref's picture

An idiot president, a moribund legislature and a tribal court.

And a constitution not fit for purpose.

Ain't life grand.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

@Bollox Ref

no one is impeaching Trump or using the 25th amendment.

The Constitution did not, of course, make removal of a President easy. After the nation has elected a President, should a cabinet of his nominees or a Congress consisting of 535 "folks" be able to overturn that election easily? I don't think so.

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Mutual self-destruction of the old empires of Europe. Dumb luck, really. It just fell into our laps for a century or so. Now, it's our turn for the ash heap.

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It's rotting from the inside but people think that he is just an abnormality and once he is gone then things will get better and America will be great again.

The Atlantic website is made up with the same people who are in the Atlantic Council. The war criminals of olden days.

I'm with you. Tired of anonymous sources and people who are not authorized to discuss things. And the media letting people get away with saying "we believe that this happened" and other "it might have been" without getting proof that it happened.

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The Washington Generals should probably sue the Democrats for copyright infringement.

Alzheimer's or whatever he had near the end and his daughter wanted it known, before he passed, that he was the one who had brought down the Nixon administration. Were it not for anonymous sources, we might never find out as little as we do find out. Heaven knows, whistleblowers are few and far between. (No surprise: Drake, Snowden, Kiriakou, et al.)

But, about the article in The Atlantic quoted in the OP of this thread: Impeachment and the 25th Amendment are expressly provided for in the Constitution. Testifying against a President before Congress or mass resignations are not provided for in the Constitution, but do not violate any provision of the Constitution. That distinction is not vital to this instance, but I think it is worth nothing.

I disagree that "{o}vert defiance of presidential authority by the president’s own appointees" is a constitutional crisis. (And, btw, writing an article anonymously is the opposite of "overt.") A constitutional crisis is something involving more than one branch of government.

If a President were to defy an order of the Supreme Court, we'd have a constitutional crisis. If a President attempted legislation or a declaration of war via an Executive Order and Congress was not inclined to cover his or her ass, we'd have a constitutional crisis. And so on. If Congress subpoenaed a President to testify before Congress under pain and penalty of perjury, under oath, we might have a constitutional crisis.

Insubordination, gossip, etc. by the President's appointees (whom he can fire) about the President is not a constitutional crisis, any more than Deep Throat's ratting out Nixon was a constitutional crisis. (Suppose, instead of giving hints to a reporter for WAPO, Deep Throat had simply written a story for WAPO himself anonymously. Wouldn't that be like the NY Op Ed about Trump?)

If Trump's aides are actually flat out running the country, instead of the person people actually elected, that might be a constitutional issue, but that does not seem to be the case. (BTW, that has happened in the past https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edith_Wilson, Some say it happened with Reagan, too.) If they are only dissuading him from pursuing his worst excesses, isn't advising him against something they believe to be wrong at least part of their job description?

Now, please excuse me while I go hide from angry readers.

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@HenryAWallace

Were it not for anonymous sources, we might never find out as little as we do find out. Heaven knows, whistleblowers are few and far between. (No surprise: Drake, Snowden, Kiriakou, et al.)

Whistleblowers do us a great service. However the anonymous sources that are being quoted today are not trying to enlighten us about what our government is trying to hide from us. They are coming from people who are trying to prove that Russia interfered with the election and that Putin has control over Trump and the republicans. Those sources are from people like the ones who wrote this article. People who running the country behind closed doors.

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The Atlantic Council is full of war criminals like Kissinger, Albright and the rest of the neocon goons who have ruined this and many other countries.

i see no need for you to hide. You make sense.

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The Washington Generals should probably sue the Democrats for copyright infringement.

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@snoopydawg

I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration

The person who wrote it admitted that he is not doing what Trump wants done and isn't in my opinion someone who is working in his administration.. this reads more like the other articles we've seen that were written by people pushing Russia Gate.

It states that Trump is refusing to put the sanctions on Russia when that is an outright lie. This administration has put more sanctions on Russia and people and businesses in Russia than the Obama administration did.

It ends with this.

The bigger concern is not what Mr. Trump has done to the presidency but rather what we as a nation have allowed him to do to us. We have sunk low with him and allowed our discourse to be stripped of civility.

Senator John McCain put it best in his farewell letter. All Americans should heed his words and break free of the tribalism trap, with the high aim of uniting through our shared values and love of this great nation.

We may no longer have Senator McCain. But we will always have his example — a lodestar for restoring honor to public life and our national dialogue. Mr. Trump may fear such honorable men, but we should revere them.

There is a quiet resistance within the administration of people choosing to put country first. But the real difference will be made by everyday citizens rising above politics, reaching across the aisle and resolving to shed the labels in favor of a single one: Americans.

There is so much in this piece that raises flags that leads me to think this could have been written by someone who doesn't work in his administration.

Interesting that this came out on the same day that the information in Woodward's book did. I'm wary of coincidences.

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The Washington Generals should probably sue the Democrats for copyright infringement.

@snoopydawg that quote. Ugh. Because America was just all civility and peaches and cream before Donald Trump was elected? Really? Can anyone say that with a straight face?

And the McCain worship? Sorry, I don’t trust any revolution that reveres McNasty as some shining example to aspire to.

Yeah, this reads like propaganda to me.

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Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.

WoodsDweller's picture

... it goes like this:

Intelligence agencies are trying to neutralize a Presidency that somehow managed to get elected instead of their chosen candidate.
Someone at said agency writes an OP-ED for a major newspaper purporting to be from a currently employed senior White House aide. They use their contacts at said newspaper to get it published anonymously contrary to their standard policy.
The intent is to drive the President to distraction looking for Commies traitors under the bed. Nobody trusts anyone, and the President trusts no one. Nobody even dares make a phone call for fear of who is listening or fear of appearing to leak information. Real aides look for opportunities to stab one another in the back (figuratively. probably).
The whole administration is tied in knots. Mission accomplished.
Nah. Nobody would ever believe that. (pulls paper out of typewriter, crumples it up and tosses it into the wastebasket).

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Amanda Matthews's picture

the mole in the manure pile is:

Bookies place odds on anonymous White House official

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Pence was listed at 2-to-3 odds on the site MyBookie as the fifth column official who claims to be working behind the scenes to stop some of Trump’s policies that they find wrongheaded.

The biggest favorite, at 1-3 odds, is “the field,” someone not listed among the 18 administration officials listed by the Costa Rica-based operation.

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The other 17 named potential moles, listed by MyBookie, are: Education Secretary Betsy Devos (2-to-1), Secretary of State Mike Pompeo (4-to-1), Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin (4-to-1), chief of staff John F. Kelly (4-to-1), Defense Secretary Jim Mattis (5-to-1), Attorney General Jeff Sessions (5-to-1), Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke (6-to-1), Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue (6-to-1), Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross (7-to-1) Labor Secretary Alex Acosta (7-to-1), HHS Secretary Alex Azar (8-to-1), HUD Secretary Ben Carson (8-to-1), VA Secretary Robert Wilkie (8-to-1), Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen (10-to-1), Ivanka Trump (12-to-1) and Jared Kushner (12-to-1).

Hours after MyBookie posted numbers, Canada-based Bovada issued its own Trump-leak odds and listed embatted AG Sessions as its favorite at 5-to-2.

He was followed by Pence (3-to-1), Kelly (4-to-1), Mattis (4-to-1), UN Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley (10-to-1), “Javanka” (15-to-1), Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats (15-to-1), White House counsel Don McGahn (15-to-1), Melania Trump (50-to-1) and White House

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2018/09/05/bookies-place-odds-on...

I could see Pence thinking he’s on a mission from GAWD or Sessions being a pouty jerk, or Kelly just plain fed up and out for paybacks. It says a lot about this administration when there are so many duplicitous jerks to pick from.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

democracy is supposed to work, they'd have understood that the Republicans' refusal to allow Obama to govern, including their refusal to even pretend to address his various judicial and executive appointments, was the constitutional crisis. Instead, the Republicans pointed at the Constitution and relied on "Doesn't say we have to" and "Doesn't say we can't" as argument to seditiously undermine the operation of the supposedly democratically elected small-r republican government of these United States.

as it happens, the constitution both defines and provides for the treatment of treason, but doesn't address sedition/usurpation at all. this is a serious shortcoming, because serious treason is both rare and of little interest to most of us most of the time, whereas sedition is always happening, and affects all of us, always.

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The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.