(WTF is going on here?): When the President Testified: People in the Room Recall Clinton’s 1998 Interrogation

The NYT slways has an agenda. What is it here? Is this a backhanded slap in the face at Cheetolini for not sitting down and letting Mueller try to entrap him into saying something stupid, or saying something that could be, or actually is, a lie?(Something Cheets does constantly out of habit?)

The NYT isn’t just taking us on a trip down Memory Lane. The author of this article broke the Lewinsky story. Is he trying to make Slick out to be some poor, misunderstood creature? Is he trying to rehab Slick’s reputation? Is he trying to tell us Slick did the ‘right thing’ (testifying) in the end.

Or am I just too jaded and cynical that I see conspiracies in everything?

When the President Testified: People in the Room Recall Clinton’s 1998 Interrogation
The date was Aug. 17, 1998. President Bill Clinton testified before a grand jury. Twenty years later, people in the room and those waiting nearby share their memories.

by Peter Baker

May 29, 2018

The president of the United States was accused of criminal wrongdoing and the time had come to be interviewed by prosecutors. It was a showdown like none other in American history — or so it seemed at the time.

As President Trump and Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel, negotiate about a possible interview in the Russia investigation, all sides can turn back to the only real precedent: the time that President Bill Clinton was interrogated by prosecutors before a grand jury watching over closed circuit television.

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Twenty years later, several of the people who were in the room at the time and those waiting and watching elsewhere in the White House and the Capitol shared their memories of that day in separate conversations. Mr. Clinton’s recollections are drawn from his memoir, “My Life,” and Hillary Clinton’s from her memoir, “Living History.”

Interviews have been lightly edited for length and clarity.

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JAY APPERSON, deputy independent counsel: The president was invited six times to voluntarily appear before the grand jury and six times declined. The delays, of course, caused the investigation to continue while they were publicly attacking us for, what was it, ‘six years and $60 million’? So the president largely was responsible for that delay for lots of reasons, including the declination to appear while publicly attesting that he was cooperating fully. This sounds very familiar, doesn’t it?

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APPERSON: It was supposed to be a two-way video-audio live feed to the grand jurors to allow the grand jurors to directly ask the president whatever questions they had. The day before I received a call from Cheryl Mills [a deputy White House counsel], who said that W.H.C.A. [the White House Communications Agency] could no longer do the two-way feed. It may well be that that was correct. My own view was that was not correct; it was deliberately designed to prevent questions.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/us/politics/clinton-testimony-gran...

The older I get, the less I believe in coincidence. They may occur upon rare occasion, but this smells like something else to me.

But like I said, I’m old, and very jaded and cynical. I got that way from watching people like the Clintons, Trumps, and Muellers give us the ‘business’ for decades.

Or maybe they just figure it’s worth throwing Slick under the bus just to make some kind of ‘point’ about how dishonest and sleazy Cheetolini is.

Who knows?????

PLEASE NOTE: lost my glasses and on an iPhone. The typos probably run rampant throughout this whole OP. I apologize in advance.)

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Amanda Matthews's picture

the story and the NYT’s agenda???

Trump is winning his effort to demonize Mueller
Analysis by Z. Byron Wolf, CNN
Updated 11:55 AM EDT, Tue May 29, 2018

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/05/29/politics/donald-trump-robert-mueller-...

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

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We know the type of demonizing strategy Trump is pursuing in public can be effective because it's worked when Bill Clinton was being investigated by Ken Starr and Hillary Clinton was complaining about a "vast right-wing conspiracy."

Clinton's strategist at the time, Dick Morris, told Politico last year about the importance of turning a prosecutor into a political enemy.

"I think the idea of having an enemy when you're the object of a special prosecutor is a very important one," he said. "Clinton only survived a special prosecutor because he made Ken Starr the enemy."

I think that the Clintons kept calling it a "vast right wing conspiracy" because they knew that their hands had been dirty since they entered politics in Arkansas. Bill had been connected to helping the CIA bring drugs into the country and then there's their White Water deal that saw them make a ton of money that didn't make sense and then there's the number of people who were connected to them who ended up dead. This is why they played like they were the victims, not the pupatraitors .

BTW, Biden opened his mouth about Trump calling this a witch hunt. He said that Mueller has indicated 16 people, 3 Russian companies and some other words... you know Biden when he starts talking.

Funny how he left out the fact that one of the Russian companies he indicted wasn't even in business during the time of the election. And that Mueller pretty much dropped the charges against the other Russians because he told the judge that he needed more time to get ready for trial and the judge laughed him out of the court room!

Everyone else who Mueller has indicated are not being charged for their connection to Trump's campaign. The charges are for things that they did years before he declared he was running for president. Funny how no one talks about this, isn't it?

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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.

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@snoopydawg

the money being wasted on this farce.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa