2020 - Trump v. Biden?
Unbelievably depressing poll results from CNN:
Democratic presidential primary 2020
Former Vice President Joe Biden holds the most widespread support when potential Democratic primary voters are asked to rate the chances they would support six possible candidates for the party's 2020 nomination.
A broad 84% of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents say they are likely to support a Biden bid for the Democratic nomination, two-thirds of whom say they are "very likely" to back his candidacy.
Bernie's support is slightly less intense?
Large majorities of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents also say they are likely to support Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders (75%) and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren (68%). Still, this support is slightly less intense than Biden's: Six in 10 likely Sanders backers say they are "very likely" to support him and less than half of Warren's likely supporters say they are "very likely" to support her.
Assuming we avoid nuclear war with Russia, this can still turn around, but it won't be easy.
NSFW: CNN 2020 Primary Poll
Trump appears to be a shoo-in in for the GOP and unless something changes the DNC dirtbags are gonna select the candidate with the best chance of losing. Again!
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Just wondering
Just wondering, could the 9% difference between Biden and Sanders in the poll of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents be attributable to the die-hard Hillary supporters who seem to hate Bernie's guts?
Based on a quick look at the demographic breakdown, it appears that the biggest difference between Biden and Sanders is in the poll respondents who identify as "Democrat" (as opposed to those who identify as independent or liberal.)
"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi
"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone
How th' heck does support for Biden
square with the #MeToo / Identity Politics fixation of the current Dem Party, given Biden's history regarding Anita Hill? I guess if Dem voters can pretend that HRC's history on the board of WalMart, with the welfare "reform" bill, and as SOS marks her as a "great champion of women and children" then anything's possible...
situational morality, reality, politics
It is what Democrats do best.
If the poll is accurate, then they won't miss my vote just like Hillary didn't miss it in Michigan.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
When you add in Republicans,
bet Bernie goes through the roof. No way in hell Biden gets and cross-over votes.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Never believe American polls any longer
thanks to Facebook they know who to ask what questions to get the answer they want. This will not work in the booth, but it does on the phone.
On to Biden since 1973
Clintonesque but with a smidgen of charisma (hard to have less)
Wow, another Wall Street Democrat to demolish the orange buffoon---that worked so well the last time around and now even the NeverTrumpers have double thunk themselves into ardent Trumpistas. Still, I suspect that the poll is a combination of disgust with Trump and name recognition at this point. The problem is that most of the Democratic celebrities, both established and up-and-coming, are rather closely tied to the plutocracy; of course, there's still time for some of them to do don sheep's clothing as so many have done in the past. I hope there's someone out there who's been quietly building up their credentials that will pop into the scene but at this point I can't think of anyone.
Biden screwed working class America, if I remember correctly
WTF? Another Wall Street stooge. He made America a much harsher place to live, singlehandedly. Bankrupcy was the ultimate safety net for Americans. It said that the wealthy bankers could not bury an American under a pile of debt forever. It said that human beings in the end have some recourse against greed. It said that banks have an obligation to not offer loans to stressed people who are unlikely to be able to pay them back. It says that when the economy goes to shit because the bankers ruined it with greed that individuals could not be stuck with forever debt and no job. F' you Joe Biden.
Capitalism has always been the rule of the people by the oligarchs. You only have two choices, eliminate them or restrict their power.
The Porky Dems are punching left again.
Just as expected. Cowards.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
Trump will beat him
like a drum.
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Biden is a loser before he even gets out of
the gate. He has too much baggage. He’s a liar, a misogynist, a perv, and his kid is a crooked asshole who’s had Daddy run interference for him his whole life.
Between the coke busts, the government positions (like the Marines) that rules were bent so he could obtain, people should see what the Biden family really stands for. And now old Touchy-Feelie’s pulling strings in another dirty deal for the kid who ditched his family for his dead brother’ widow. This should help keep him out of the White House.
Why people think that there’s any decency in that bunch I will never understand.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Biden is a dead horse
that hasn't started stinking yet. That said, Trump's bombshell of pulling out of Syria today puts him at war with TPTB. It really fucks up their plans.
Look for a FF event somewhere, probably East Ghouta, to force Trump back in line.
The Big War will not be denied.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Russia has been warning about just that
They know that we have been supplying our little brand of terrorists with some lovely chemical weapons and Russia knows that a false flag is in the works. Russia should put out a public warning to see if they can derail the attacks.
Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
Boycott the 2020 presidential election.
This talk about Biden and the 2020 election is all meant to keep the people in their boxes, only to talk about which fucking politician they might get to elect next instead of changing this ridiculous political system that serves us up these fucking low lifes.
That won't be hard for me since I've
been boycotting them since Obama's first term ended. Just don't see the point.
Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
Hillary Won't Shut Up
If Hillary continues to be obnoxious and dragging down the Corporate Dims maybe this is a good thing:
If the Clinton Creature endorses Biden it could be the end of the Democratic party as we know it.
Hillary Slams Critics
"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war." Howard Zinn
Well maybe just once?
New York Magazine, 2012:
Republicans Really Wish That Mitt Romney Would Shut Up Now
You man you
From the Hill
Awww. Won't listen. Won't Stop.
Hey. We believe you are a person. We believe you were a disastrous candidate - twice.
Aside from the centenarians that govern the Corprocats, you got nothing. They've got nothing. The majority of what is left of the Democratic Party really does want you to go away, don't care about gender. Just go away.
Prof: Nancy! I’m going to Greece!
Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!
Firesign Theater
Stop the War!
I want them all to shut up
All the money-grubbing, shape-shifting, panderers infecting our politics. Shut them all up with clean, publicly funded elections. I want Trump to shut up and go away.
Beware the bullshit factories.
Exactly
It has NOTHING to do with gender. It has EVERYTHING to do with being a shitty entitled disaster of a candidate who needs someone, anyone, to pin the blame on.
And as noted, the Repubs did tell Mittens to shut up. And I know a hell of a lot of people wished McCain would have gone silent. Oh yeah, I seem to vaguely remember some other man who was running for the Dems nomination being told to shut up, often. But why let facts start getting in the way now?
I say let her eat cake...err...keep talking. No way she's doing the liberal corpor-crats any good and they'll never have the spine to cut her loose.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
Liar liar pantsuit on fire
Whoooole LONG list of losers who were told to shut up, suck it up, and (in some cases) just go away. Probably starts with Martin Van Buren, who coasted into office on Andy Jackson's coattails and couldn't win re-election in his own right in 1840. By 1844 not even his own Party wanted him around.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Let's see if I have this right
Mr. touchy feely underage girls with nice smelling hair vs a guy who indiscriminately f a porn star or f over his multiple wives
You tell me.
They don't care. They knew who he was and what he did for decades.
This goes nowhere.
They say "I didn't vote for a Pastor"
Then again, there are the Kennedys.
Prof: Nancy! I’m going to Greece!
Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!
Firesign Theater
Stop the War!
Barf.
The "pro-life" party that doesn't give a shit about actual living children being murdered vs. the "Pro-choice" party that doesn't give a shit about actual women. Fuck me, I need a drink.
This shit is bananas.
Polls 'R Us
Gee, I wonder if these are the same kind of polls we saw where Hillary was beating Trump by a mile. The same polls that omitted an entire demographic under the age of 38 years old so that they got the results they wanted.
Biden beating out Bernie? Yeah, sure he is.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
I don't believe it
The guy who could never reach 5% is suddenly popular?
Bullsh*t
Yes, but a lot of secret bribes and political contributions
from all over the world can anonymously pass through Biden's home territory of Delaware and into anonymous accounts there, which would make him very popular among bribees. Look at how popular among her ilk Pelosi is, for her incredible fund-raising abilities.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Are you sure this poll didn't come from Kos's
new shiny polling company?
Biden has about as much chance of beating Trump as the new and improved Hillary has. I think the Democratic Party actually hates this whole country and not just the 'deplorable' parts.
And I don't see Biden holding rallies and getting massive crowds. Did Biden turn up and shake hands with the March for Life crowd? The youth reacted to Bernie like he was a rock star. Of course the Dems are closing their eyes to this and just wishing that Bernie would go away. They are useless and dangerous.
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