(For your info): copy of the April 2017 FISA court determination on the legality of the Obama admins wiretaps

It’s 99 pages long, but this IMO is the most relevant finding (page 82):

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Did you catch that? 85% of the searches by the Obama boys and girls were non-compliant with MINIMUM standards for legality.

That why I posted this. Because the TRUE extent of Obama & Company’s illegal operation to see that Clinton was coronated is much bigger than people want to admit. But of course, the DIms have no problem with a little thing like unethical (a polite word for illegal) acts he (OR The Clinton Creature) committed. He was so Hopey Changey.

Here’s the full document:

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin...

NOTE: I snagged this from Discussionist.com
https://www.discussionist.com/1014399295

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EdMass's picture

If the Creature had been coronated, nada.

The drip, drip is not going to stop, at least until 12/2019.

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@EdMass
out that she was going to lose.

I’ve always wondered whether or not Donna Brazille would have been so honest about TCC buying the DNC and all if TCC hadn’t called her fat, or fat water buffalo (or whatever) as the results came rolling in. I bet that was a sight to see. I am sure she wouldn’t have if TCC had won

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It was the ¡ЯUSSIAИS! that hacked the FISA court and issued all those illegal warrants and forced Obama and the Democrats to spy on Trump and other Americans. This was all part of Putin's Plot to destabilize the United States and win Cold War 2.0.

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@edg

that the Russians are bombing us with. I guess I need deprogrammed.

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Not. Anyone thinking that the intelligence agencies are playing by the rules is not paying attention. Even if someone can prove that rules were broken, people rarely get charged for it.

But if Hillary got them to spy on Trump to help her win, then someone should have to pay for it or we should just stop having elections and go with the Deep State appointed president. I think that's what we have anyway, or will now that DHS is going to be in charge of it.

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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.

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kiss of death for any hope of a fair election. Which I suppose was the point.

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I swear to God I just read this earlier today... something to the effect of, "Those good men and women who work for the FBI". Seriously? The FBI? Even before I was politically aware I understood the FBI had gotten up to some pretty skeevy stuff. After I became aware I understood it was created from the beginning for skeevy purposes.

You'd think those good liberals over there would... you know... not support the groups that oppress blacks. Isn't that one of their protected groups?

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that we used to make fun of. It's just another echo chamber where anyone who disagrees with the popular kids is thrown out of the playground. Especially if you don't buy into the Russian propaganda crap. Whenever something happens in the country, they blame it on Russian bots. Seriously.

We discussed the Intercept article about how the DCCC is sabotaging anyone who is too progressive. Subir diary'd it and it became one of the biggest pie fights this year. I won't name names, but a regular one posted that it's better to elect blue dogs even if they vote with the republicans most of the time. It's just very important that the democrats have the majority. And not all blue dogs are bad because of reasons. It's better to have Lieberman, Manchkin and the other blues than to have Cotton, and some of the other horrible republicans. How or why? Reasons.

And don't even think of bringing up Purity there. Sexism and racism is okay to discuss. Of course there were the "Bernie isn't a democrat or Warren used to be a republican. Not sure what that was supposed to mean. Only one mention of this site. They're slipping if they don't bring us up 5-6 times. I was a good dawg and held my tail.

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attention to this place? I’ve only been over there to peek a couple of times in months. I went over the other day to see what they did to Ed. Sheesh they were rude to him!

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@Amanda Matthews

A few of them bring back stories from here much like a few of us bring back stories from there. Not surprisingly, given the utterly different world views, we each see the other pretty similarly -- a bunch of crazies bent on the destruction of the US and maybe the world.

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@SnappleBC A DKOS-brainwashed acquaintance of mine posted an "I Stand with the FBI" meme on FB yesterday.

You can't make this shit up.

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@WaterLily

... in today's times would stand solidly behind pretty much anyone if they thought it'd help get a Democrat elected... *cough* Henry FUCKING Kissinger *cough*

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@SnappleBC

space/time/reality glitch and we’re living in Bizarro World.

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Steven D's picture

These violations went back years, all the way to 2008. This is very damning stuff, and not just because the Obama administration was in charge, but because it looks like the NSA and FBI operate as rogue agencies doing whatever the hell they wanted when it comes to data collection of communications by US citizens, and that apparently no one in the government cared with the possible exception of the NSA IG office.

I should add that this order by the FISA court does not appear to deal directly with the allegations that Obama administration officials conducted illegal surveillance against Trump and his campaign.

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