But, Progressive works, too.

I looked over his earlier post 3 times, ergo, I went through 4 stages:

1. Shock
2. Regret
3. cold determination
4. REM

1. Shock - I was shocked at two things. At how much time I had spent there, and at how ridiculous his demands were.
Once I realized the fool impact of what he hath wrought, I expectorated that membership would dive, activity would be limited to some rabid Hillarians, and that the folks in charge of DK would begin to regret, even slightly, how much they underestimated our reactions.

2. Regret - My biggest was the loss of community, and an avenue to hone my puns. Given the small, but quite possibly disturbed group of folks who responded frequently to my snark, I felt regret about a lack of forum for our exchanges. I also regretted learning something from some really smart folks there. Luckily, it seems that my favorites have found their way here.

3. Cold determination - One, I will not put up with petty, dictatorial rules. Two, I REALLY will not put up with dictatorial rules. Three, I would seek out another place to inflict with my snark, Church of Ineffable Stupidity sermons, and Puns.

4. REM - not the music, nor live performance on stage. More of another kind of stage.

of Markos' shit biscuit post, to 791 members today.

I suppose I'll continue to visit the site occasionally, though I hate to give it any clicks, but one thing I've come to realize is that on most of the issues I care about, there isn't a hell of a lot of distance between Hillary Clinton and any of the mainstream corporate Republicans like Romney or Jeb Bush. Whether the issue is mid-east wars, blank check support for Israeli Likudniks, outsourcing good paying jobs via "free trade" agreements, fracking, coddling of Wall Street fraudsters, embrace of the for profit healthcare model -- well, you get the idea. On all but a handful of social issues (which happily don't impact the bottom line of the corporatariat), there is not much practical difference between neo-liberal and neo-conservative. No wonder so many of the Orange State posters are sounding more and more like their Red State counterparts.

In a way, the whole thing strikes me as deja vu all over again. I well remember back in 1992 an online acquaintance of mine attended the Democratic Convention in New York as a delegate for Jerry Brown. He told me that when members of the Brown delegation attempted to stage some kind of floor demonstration in support of their candidate, they were cursed, spit upon, and pelted with garbage by the Clinton-ites. The message then, as today, is that if you're a progressive, small-d democrat, the dominant corporate wing of the party wants your vote, but other than that -- shut up, sit down, and get with the program. They just don't want to hear about it, or deal with it. As George Carlin said, it's an exclusive club, and you ain't in it.

sometime back around 1980 there was this thing going around Southern California. It was literally a pyramid scheme. You put in $500 to enter at the bottom and you had to get a couple of people to ante in that much in order for you to move up a row. When you got to the top you ended up with $64,000! (or something like that) And then, if you wanted to, you could put in another $500 and be on the bottom of a different pyramid so you could get another big payday.

Well, obviously it doesn't work. You run out of people well before you cash in. Some folks, the ones who started the scheme, made some money. Everybody else got stuck somewhere below the top, out their $500.

A good friend of ours was in on this and took us to a meeting where we were given the talk. I'd already run the math past our friend to show him why it didn't work so I knew we weren't going to put any money into it. We just went because....

there was this woman who sort of ran the meeting who was dreadful, giving everyone who was already in a very hard time because they weren't bringing in new people. Yeah, we went as a favor to our pal so this lady wouldn't yell at him.

I think of that woman sometimes when I read Markos' work. I'm not really interested in being any place where I'm getting yelled at for not bringing in other suckers or, in this case, supporting something I don't believe in. If Hillary should win the nomination and then lose the election it won't be Hillary's fault, according to the blamers. We all know "they" will all come after us. Funny if it weren't so sad.

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Especially since I found a better clip.

Except for two. To prove a point...the point made in the comment above, in fact. What a coincidence.