Armeggedon and Religious Monomaniacs as Annihilators.

"According to French President Chirac, Bush told him that the Iraq war was needed to bring on the apocalypse."

I was discussing with a Christian friend yesterday that the events in the near apocalyptic Middle East are not a fulfillment of some prophecy by "God". It is a self-directed assault on the world by hundreds of millions of believers (Christian, Muslim and Jewish fundamentalists) in the "End Times" who are purposely invested by their beliefs to bringing about Armageddon. It is self-fulfilling product of their sick belief system.

These people seem to think that genocide is morally acceptable because their "God" ordained it in their evil old holy books. Believers in Armageddon (End Times) long to see billions of people, including women, children and babies massacred on earth and tortured in hell.

After which, the select few true believers can either (depending on your misfortune of being brainwashed by one god brand or another) will have 24 hour a day orgasms with 72 teenage virgins, or sit on clouds listening to harp music (or whatever, its never really explained) in an endless state of rapture.
I am sorry, but these people, and they are in control of foreign policy in the USA and many other areas of the world now, are raving mad.

"The Armageddonites worship a vengeful, killer-torturer Christ."
http://www.alternet.org/story/65845/america's_armageddonites_push_for_more_war

Also see: Millions of Evangelical Christians Want to Start World War III … to Speed Up the Second Coming: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/02/evangelical-christians-want-to-st...

Note: This doesn't address the annihilators blindness to their destroying life on Earth.

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riverlover's picture

No sliver of self-doubt? No worries they won't pass muster? A bizarre belief system.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

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@riverlover

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

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@Lily O Lady The less something is rational or even reasonable, the more faith is needed to believe it. So much for those who have "great faith".

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@Lily O Lady

No kidding!

http://www.alternet.org/story/65845/america's_armageddonites_push_for_more_war

War on Iraq
America's Armageddonites Push for More War
Some fundamentalist evangelicals have moved from forecasting Armageddon to actually trying to bring it about.
By Jon Basil Utley / Foreign Policy in Focus
October 22, 2007

... Everyone else -- Buddhists, Muslims (of course), Hindus, atheists, and so on -- are then slated to die in the Tribulation that comes with Armageddon. As described in the bestselling Left Behind series, this time of human misery ends with Christ then ruling a paradise on earth for a thousand years. ...

Right, so everyone gets murdered by these idiots except those physically carted up mysteriously alive into a heaven where the physical body does not exist but they can still play/listen to harps all day - yet Super-Jesus then rules over a paradise on Earth with nobody left there to appreciate it?

Isn't their god going to be pretty god-damned peeved that these nutters destroyed His creation rather than waiting for Him to do it at the right time, usurping His prerogative? Why the hell should He want these murderous creation-wreckers lounging around His heaven sucking up His harp music? Could this be His way of identifying the definite not-coming-to-heaven types who'd disrupt the place for all eternity? If anyone, these would be the ones He'd want suffering for all eternity in the basement torture-chambers...

And since He's never bothered showing up to rescue even any of His saints, why should He show up early, yet, especially to save these presumptuous idiots trying to force His hand with a power-play against one of His favorite creations - with which He was evidently still playing and probably had plans for which are now entirely spoiled?

Maybe these guys should first test their theory of their physical Super-Jesus rescue from a certain miserable death by requesting some of those spiffy gold-coloured brick parachutes for financial market-crashing Greeds discussed in a previous thread prior to jumping from an airplane into the nearest lake to see if this rescue actually happens on cue? 'He's not a tame Lion,' is He?

Why hasn't this actively hazardous and lunatic cult been dealt with long ago? Because so many politicians worship only Mammon and will kill and die for more money than they can ever spend, even while they still live themselves.

And why haven't the people moved yet to demand democracy and representative government, instead leaving each abuse to stand as 'precedent' for the ever-worsening next and continue to deny the obvious signs of fascism as long as they can still complain without instant arrest or execution? If not now, it will be never.

Very soon, possibly within this decade, there might be nothing but never left...

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Donald Trump receives support in presidential bid from Pastor John Hagee

Controversial pastor John Hagee, who is known for declaring apocalyptic prophecies, has joined the string of church leaders who have expressed support for presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.

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The political revolution continues

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@Shockwave Its not only demolishing whole regions, but the entire planet. After all, as Hagee says, "It’s Not Climate Change But The Imminent Return Of Jesus." And unfortunately these lunatics are running things.

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@Alex Ocana And then there's that. But on that subject, the secularists are, sadly, no better. Apparently nobody gets to disagree with the oil barons.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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CBN has millions of viewers around the world.

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@Alex Ocana

Nothing like howling at the bloody moon for everyone's blood to demonstrate how fit you are to influence/determine policy...

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must be snickering to themselves that all this zealotry by Christian Fundamentalists in the U.S for Israel's defense has become such a boon to their objectives. They're even good for tourism too.

The End Times wackos are way too embedded in America. Fascist, criminal pastors misinterpreting Jesus's teachings (how the fuck can anyone defend such a fraud as the "prosperity gospel"?), to skin-deep lemmings with only an child-like, antinomian allegiance to the religion. It's not only infiltrated fundamentalist sects, which it dominates, but infects Catholicism too.

If only 8-12% of these self-proclaimed "Christians" really honored the word of their namesake we'd have a different world overnight. And none of it would have to do with the macabre notion of the Rapture. Unfortunately, for the majority of these clowns, treating people with dignity, compassion and empathy are secondary, to being manipulated by fear and tribalism to do "God's work."

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"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:

THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

- Kurt Vonnegut

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@Mark from Queens I did an essay once on the creepy similarity between these apocalypse-chasers and the libertarians in Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged.) There's a disgusting similarity: the chosen meritorious few get to watch and celebrate from safety as the lights of civilization go out, and basically indulge in an orgy of self-congratulation.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Mark from Queens

Yeah, but don't the 'Christian' End Times fanatics have to take out the whole Jewish people - fanatics and all - first, in order to achieve this instant-when-ordered personal carrier service from their Creator and, presumably, all of the little saints, angels and fairies in their lexicon? Unless, of course, it's really just a very few intended to be actually Raptured, with the rest of their believers to be Roasters/Starvers, etc. along with the rest of us...

(Although I believe that the Tower of Babel was considered to be presumptuous and cast down - global destruction of Earth life they believe to have been created by this god to try to force this vengeful god's hand to order might not work out well for them at all, using their own theological record... not to mention that their god evidently isn't ready yet or he'd have done it himself already. Probably hasn't even started the transportation schedule yet...)

The Isreali's fanatics probably will help with the End-Times fanatic thing by nuking the nukers at the same time and creating - at best and along with global radiation poisoning - global dimming, drought, crop failure, etc.

Is the new Christian-only paradise to be on Methane Planet Earth? Or just on Empty, Airless Earth? This doesn't seem to be covered in the description, but if they're going to be Raptured, body and all, to a bodiless Heaven and we're all going to be murdered, it sounds like Super-Jesus is going to be alone down here, and if Heaven is also as dead and lifeless as these murderous fanatics seem to want to make Earth, that would be their notion of paradise...

I have always felt that true evil was anti-life and this certainly fits the bill.

But I also believe it to be used as propaganda by those who believe that they alone will survive this to rule the ruins, having sucked all of the then-useless money out of the system. The worship of the Golden Calf Bull of Wall St. rules in multiple ways.

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are they in for a few surprises.

There are Zionist groups doing similarly. Using the bible as if it were an instruction manual.

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The Protestant churches Mike Pence has belonged to believe in end-times rapture for believers. They believe that they will be removed from Earth just before the punishing horror starts for all the rest of us.

Pence's current church believes in predestination--God chose the true believers for salvation even before they were born. His current church prefers full-immersion baptism but will allow salvation for those who were just sprinkled. (Those who were sprinkled do not have to be re-baptized by dunking.)

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@asterisk Calvinism...

A bunch of Christians that are very special...
Only some will get to go...
The 1%ers of the Christians...

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@asterisk It may be my Christian past that makes me hate this heresy with all my heart. And I usually don't mind heresy at all--it's usually another name for dissent. But this predestination-bring-on-the-apocalypse shit is, to borrow a phrase from the Pope, demon dung.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal Mike Pence scares me. He was obviously willing to say or do just about anything to get elected and this is not a new thing for him.

Every time Trump would say something off-the-wall Pence and Kellyanne Conway would run around telling us all that we really did not hear what Trump said. Pence is a buddy of Dan Quayle, but lacks Qayles likeable straightforwardness.

I really want to know who is behind the selection of Pence as VP and who he will listen to. I also want to know if Pence had a hand in ousting Mike Flynn or if Pence was just named as a convenient excuse.

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@asterisk @asterisk I heard it said that George Bush was going to receive a letter from god just before the rapture. Can't remember the reason though.

Maybe its time to flood Pence's office with letters from God, Jesus and the saints telling him the exact day, hour and minute he will be lifted out of office and into heaven. We could put some non-toxic glow paint on it in the form of Jesus, and maybe write it in non-toxic invisible ink that only shows up when its breathed on. Of course not to forget some non-toxic gospel music nano-chips so that when Jesus starts to glow harpo-organic tinnitus will play along with a short voice message. "You are about to be raptured, be sure your boxer shorts have been changed."

I am also told that the seriously mentally handicapped all go to heaven. So I guess god will have to put up with Trump for eternity.

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@Alex Ocana

Why, so he'll be all hot on destroying the rest of us immediately? Make certain that each letter points out that 'Vengeance is the Lords' and that messing with His prerogatives is srs bsns.

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(who has all Trump's bad beliefs but believes that they are divinely ordained and that his reward is in heaven.) A guy like that will have no worries about launching nukes in the morning because he's going to lunch with Jesus at noon.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

This issue is as important as climate change with regard to our future viablility. It's incomprehensible that "these people" have these beliefs and aquire power to act on them. Homo Sapiens are crazy. [And don't get me started on overpopulation!]

Thanks. Peace out.

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