Bill Clinton Blames State Dept for Any Conflicts of Interest w/ Foundation

From POLITICO

Bill Clinton on foundation controversy: 'I trusted the State Department'

In an interview with NPR, former president Bill Clinton said that he trusted the State Department to make sure there was no conflict of interest with the Clinton Foundation while Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State.

Bill Clinton defended his wife and the Clinton Foundation in an interview that aired Monday, saying he trusted the State Department to make sure there wasn’t a conflict of interest between the foundation’s donors and Hillary Clinton’s work at State. “I trusted the State Department wouldn't do anything they shouldn't do, from a meeting to a favor,” the former president said in an interview with NPR.

EDIT: At about minute 4:30, Bill throws the Obama Administration under the bus saying that if anyone objected to what was done at State, it could have been appealed to the executive branch. (I wonder if any on the planet -including him- think this is an accurate statement).

He also says something about people working 'double duty' which isnt' entirely clear - does he mean the staff members who were concurrently working for the foundation and State?

And someone else should transcribe what he said about what he has learned since being in the WH the first time - I vomited a bit in my mouth when I heard it.

He mentions Melinda Gates for some reason (as if she exemplifies a person about whom some Americans have concerns about access to the State Department).

Here's the NPR story:

Bill Clinton: 'It's Hard' To Think About Leaving Foundation

"It was natural for people who've been our political allies and personal friends to call and ask for things. And I trusted the State Department wouldn't do anything they shouldn't do," Clinton told Steve Inskeep in an interview broadcast Monday on Morning Edition.

A report on the Clinton's would not be complete without the requisite statement of victimization:

He believes that has taken a toll on Hillary Clinton's candidacy. Of people who may have voted for him but say they cannot support her, Bill Clinton said, "They're responding to the fact that this email thing was treated like the most important event since the end of World War II."

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WaterLily's picture

Seriously? This is rich.

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lunachickie's picture

a WAAAAMbulance already....

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Great, when is the public hanging. I'm free tomorrow.

And thank the gawds that Bill And Hellery aren't crooked after all.
Does he really think anyone is eating this slop?

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Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.

Hanging is too good for them.

These people were clearly born without shame genes. Why would anyone believe a word either one of them said ( starting with, of course, "I never had sexual relations with that woman") I can't stand the sound of his phlemgy voice, and her SHOUTING into a microphone.

Please, Flying Spaghetti Monster take them away - I promise to wear my Colander Hat for ever if you'll just send them to another planet. Pleeeeeeze.

If no one in the State Department could prevent Her Heinous from putting a private email server in the basement of her Chappaqua mansion, how the heck does anyone believe Huma, or Cheryl, or Sidney would allow anyone ( including Billy) access to the SOS.

I keep reminding myself, this is how they behave when they still had a modicum of interest in protecting their political viability - imagine, if you can, what they'd be like if back in the White House. Horrors.

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The abject absence of shame.

They have zero sense that they are in this with the rest of the country let alone the world. We're all just transactional resources to them. In their world, only those with obscene amounts of money are worthwhile.

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

Hey, this slop works on terrorized underlings, such as FBI heads...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

They are treating this as Holy Writ.

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

Gee, I wonder who was running the State Dept around then.

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bunch. He's was the hook, the 'charismatic' one, the front man. I am convinced she's a lot smarter than he is. I think she's the brains of the operation. She simply decided that if he can be president, then she can too. She's qualified to be as bad as he was.

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I believe she absolutely will attempt to exceed him.

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

she'll get that SS privatized and in Wall Street's hands while he couldn't because his little head got in the way of his big one. And she'll maybe start a war with Russia too, since the one in the ME is bogging down into one unholy mess of epic proportions, she'll need to start one we can "win definitively" to establish HER legacy. And of course, winning is only in the eye of the beholder and she'll tell us over and over that we did win, while we all live with the terrifying results. What's a little fallout when there's the New American Century upon us?

And I too have always thought she was the "smarter" one and the better manipulator, although her campaign is surely making me question some of that right now.

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I suspect those are among the top priorities.

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It's her arrogance.

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Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

How about both?

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Mon, 09/19/2016 - 1:34pm — MsGrin

If not worse...

I believe she absolutely will attempt to exceed him.

She wants to be the woman who sold the world to the most ruthless and highest bidders. Then she'll finally be rich enough to build her own alternate reality away from the hell-on-Earth she's creating - one she's evidently already been squatting in for some time.

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what all he could have done, had he kept his other brain in his pants.

Can't you just hear her, needling him about how she always has to clean up his messes because he insists on thinking with the Clenis first??

I only say that half in jest...

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If HRC is the brains of the operation, that's not saying much.

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I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

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Oh Bill, what a kidder you are. Of course it was the greedy State Dept. all along that flubbed the line between personal v. private while Hillary was dodging bullets on tarmacs around the world, working her fingers to the bone (and tirelessly) for women and children.

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Caerus's comment is priceless.

Please, Flying Spaghetti Monster take them away - I promise to wear my Colander Hat for ever if you'll just send them to another planet. Pleeeeeeze.

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song that applies to the Clinton's and their entourage of third Way'ers...

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where they've passed a resolution saying they don't want the Clintons to come there.

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Mon, 09/19/2016 - 4:12pm — CantStoptheSignal

Apparently there's a town in WV

where they've passed a resolution saying they don't want the Clintons to come there.

Hey, there's a start! If the actual votes are counted, perhaps that could be done everywhere? Except perhaps where she actually goes, wherever the big donors hang/hand out.

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That's exactly what needs doing. There's plenty of dirt surrounding the Clintons and their charitable activities. Melinda Gates, women and girls, no ceilings, blah, blah, blah. Who falls for this bullshit ?

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We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.

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Something in me, dark and sticky
All the time it's getting strong
No way of dealing with this feeling
Can't go on like this too long

This time you've gone too far
This time you've gone too far
This time you've gone too far
I told you, I told you, I told you, I told you
This time you've gone too far
This time you've gone too far
This time you've gone too far
I told you, I told you, I told you, I told you

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is that all he's ever got?

Yeah, that's it, throw all those people at State under the bus. You know, the ones who had to put up with your wife's shit for how long?

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He's fighting the man.

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A Spontaneous Nasal Eject Response.

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I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.

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that line... Sheesh.

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Time has no meaning in this election. It's just infinite suck.

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I've been saying I really should get a Giant Metero 2016 Tshirt: https://www.amazon.com/Just-End-It-Already-T-Shirts/dp/B01GE6BJQC

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I also saw an "Everyone Sucks 2016" yard sign.

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I just have to have one of those shirts, got it!

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SCIENCE is not a Liberal Conspiracy. Great scores, good for sleeping Tees.

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... Time has no meaning in this election. It's just infinite suck.

It's a Bill thing. Better get used to it.

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along with the NSA, the FBI, and certain portions of the CIA and Pentagon, in fucking *hating* Hillary "Rules are for the little people" Clinton and Bill "It's not our fault--it's THEIR fault!"Clinton.

I wonder how many more federal employees they can make hate them before they're done.

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There are many career public employees who serve the country because they believe it is an honor.

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the inside anymore. They're all too afraid of being Snowdened.

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Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

R-U-S-S-I-A-N-S!
Plus Hill's assistants; Bernie Bros; Colin Powell; the Media; the Vast Right-wing Conspiracy; and Bosnian snipers.

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Mon, 09/19/2016 - 11:48am — CantStoptheSignal

Well, that adds State to the pile--

along with the NSA, the FBI, and certain portions of the CIA and Pentagon, in fucking *hating* Hillary "Rules are for the little people" Clinton and Bill "It's not our fault--it's THEIR fault!"Clinton.

I wonder how many more federal employees they can make hate them before they're done.

He's doing a great job, browning to toast. (I hope.)

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in an unprecedented move. http://www.washingtonpost.com/.../10/AR2010031003440.html...

OMG, many may still be there.

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Am awfully curious what this is!

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Well worth reading -

To be sure, Clinton has her share of critics who take aim at her operating style, complaining that she has ceded too much of her power to special envoys and that she has been in a global campaign mode of relentless image-building, intense travel and international media cultivation. Her job-approval ratings top President Obama's.

One loyalist inside the agency, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to be candid, suggested that Clinton is stretched too thin and has not narrowed her goals or developed signature issues that will define her tenure. "What bothers me is that we're planting zillions of seeds . . . speeches on every issue, but where's the thematic coherence?" this aide said.

It is well known that Clinton has long placed a high premium on loyalty, some say too high, leaving her open to criticism that she values it over job qualifications. And at State, she is still surrounded by advisers from her days as a first lady and a senator -- often referred to as Hillaryland. In addition, her vast network of former White House, Senate and campaign aides, as well as some supporters, permeates every floor of the building.

Clinton had one condition that eclipsed all others as she considered Obama's offer to be secretary of state: She demanded hiring authority at the department. To Team Clinton, this meant every political job -- about 200 -- from the most senior level to the 20-something researchers. Historically, it is the president who fills these political positions, and no one can recall a Cabinet secretary in recent memory requesting and receiving this kind of hiring latitude.

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If I may add to your comment? (Bolding mine.)

When considered in relation to what you posted above, the following shows public image-building - not concrete improvements to anything benefiting anyone outside of the 1%. And that she got other people to do much of her actual job. Lots of speeches, no signature issues - same old, same old, since the public isn't supposed to know about her actual issues - or who/what she serves against the public interest. It's all profitable-one-way-or-another speeches, 'optics', cover-ups and look-at-the-tail-of-the-squirrel-living-in-Trump's-head With Her. And the seeds planted seem to be typically fracking Frankenseeds.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/10/AR201003...

...To be sure, Clinton has her share of critics who take aim at her operating style, complaining that she has ceded too much of her power to special envoys and that she has been in a global campaign mode of relentless image-building, intense travel and international media cultivation. Her job-approval ratings top President Obama's.

One loyalist inside the agency, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to be candid, suggested that Clinton is stretched too thin and has not narrowed her goals or developed signature issues that will define her tenure. "What bothers me is that we're planting zillions of seeds . . . speeches on every issue, but where's the thematic coherence?" this aide said....

And this suggests that she's shutting the President out of State business and hiring those personally loyal to herself - not necessarily those loyal to upholding people's Constitutional rights and running the country for the public good.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/10/AR201003...

... Clinton had one condition that eclipsed all others as she considered Obama's offer to be secretary of state: She demanded hiring authority at the department. To Team Clinton, this meant every political job -- about 200 -- from the most senior level to the 20-something researchers. Historically, it is the president who fills these political positions, and no one can recall a Cabinet secretary in recent memory requesting and receiving this kind of hiring latitude.

So rare are Obama people at the agency that Alec Ross -- an Obama campaign Internet star who aggressively sought to work for Clinton -- is jokingly referred to as the "Obama guy."

Guarding the door at Foggy Bottom last year was a trio from the top echelon of Hillaryland. Among them -- Cheryl Mills, who was deputy counsel in the Clinton White House; Hillary Clinton's White House chief of staff, Maggie Williams; and Tamara Luzzatto, her Senate chief of staff -- they knew everyone who had ever worked for Clinton over the years and who hoped to join her at State. They also recruited high-profile experts who had not worked for Clinton -- but neither were they associated with Obama. ...

So, dunno, of course, but I'm guessing that orders likely came down from TPTB hanging over Obama's head to let the Clinton minion have her way within the State Department in order to set herself in position as the first corporate female manager of the American resource section. And it sounds from the article as though she was spying on/stalking her employees to keep them in line - psychopaths are like that, of course.

Edited to add something appropriate playing right now:

http://www.vevo.com/watch/4-non-blondes/Dear-Mr-President/USUV70501005

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and I am wrong just about every single day.

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just like Bill.

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by Hill's leftovers.

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The walls have ears and probably eyes. Corn and potatoes.

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who usually manages their press conferences?

Look into her eyes sometime. Scary. She reminds me of Julie Basanti from Babylon 5.

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Headline
the headline for this essay nearly made me spray my coffee all over my screen!

Bill, nice try, but all know what to look for from you as you are a well noted con artist who made it to be governor of a state, then president for 2 whole terms doing massive damage to our regulatory/legal/social systems.

so a big fat HA! is all I have for him and his wife as I vote Stein for my mail in ballot as I cannot stand in line for more than a few short minutes.

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So long, and thanks for all the fish

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please tell me this is isn't for real, oh for fuck sake ggersh wake up its the clintons.

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those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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it states the source is from Politico. LMAO!

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So long, and thanks for all the fish

biggest-bucks donor, Univision's Haim Saban: https://theintercept.com/2016/01/26/ha-ha-hillary-clintons-top-financial...

(Saban's wife, Cheryl, is a board member of the Clinton Foundation.)

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the power hungry rich kids getting control of the government with the clintons just selling it off piece by piece.

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

Well, the corporate coups which Hillary fracking pushed as Secretary of State and which Obama's trying to shove through, such as the TPP and others pre-Fast-Tracked - much as occurs in a once-protective Federal agency with passing more and new, patented, polluting GMOs* - fraudulently claim to 'legally' ultimately give the most ruthless corporations and billionaires the world,

based on the signatures on privately made agreements of individuals transiently holding public office who are sworn to serve the countries and people they are illegally/unconstitutionally betraying into virtual slavery - by giving away the people's right-of-domestic-law delegated to their offices (not in their private ownership to dispose of as they please)

with all law to be determined in an outside offshored corporate/billionaire-only 'trade court' according to what most immediately serves the mindless and destructive greed of pathological self-interests at the cost of the people, countries and world

enforced by giving hostile powers a purported 'legal right' to attack and destroy the various publics via economic warfare involving massive lawsuits by thousands of corporations/billionaires in retaliation for laws protecting them against abuses

including the destruction of human and environmental health via cost-cutting and therefore profitable unlimited industrial pollution currently destroying the life-support system of the planet, with the current rate of industrial/military pollution/destruction creating even faster-than-once-realized ecological die-off and slowing of ocean currents causing, in turn, the extrapolated snowballing rate of depleting global oxygen production already estimated to be insufficient to support life within decades, this thereby to made immeasurably and uncontrollably worse to irrevocable collapse already approaching - if not yet reached - for maximized anticipated profiteering

the reckless endangerment-for-profit of the people and environment by forcing potential/actual immediate hazards upon them, as with (already, even prior to the coup) forcing, via economic terrorism, the 'free' people of a 'free' country to accept an unwanted nuclear plant near their homes following yet another nuclear plant disaster;

forcing them to accept the presence of chronically leaky fossil fuel pipelines and fracking, poisoning soil, water, air, plant and human and animal life - when we should be shifting to greener energy;

forcing them to be subjected to neurotoxins in their air from a banned additive then freely spewed from combustion engines;

forcing them to buy the products of specific companies so as to attain a monopoly for them, as with forcing them to unknowingly consume unwanted and unlabelled petrochemically saturated patented GMOs also poisoning their soil, water, air, human, animal and environmental health - such 'trade agreements' allowing via 'legalized' extortion what can only be described as destructive enemies to regulate and control the people in every facet of their lives, (not only regarding what they can and always have legally purchased and consumed, as with petrochemically uncontaminated natural/organic foods/consumable products, what brand of condiments can be supplied in restaurants, pensions they've paid into/been promised, the complete theft of publicly owned property and programs, 'burdensome' public-protective food/product/workplace safety requirements, minimum wage laws - anything that potentially provides choice/benefits the public rather than potentially increasing the anticipated profits of the specifically coup-involved corporations/billionaires) as well as socially conditioning them to accept that, as non-billionaire peons, they should not expect to have necessities, never mind comforts, and certainly not safety, choice, freedom or happiness and therefore also cannot expect to have anything approaching a living wage as it must all go to the already wealthiest therefore purportedly entitled to exploit them - in order to maximize the profits of those already having enough money and power drained from the people and the failing resources of the Earth they so freely pollute and destroy as to buy/install corporate/billionaire-serving government administrations, a situation to which the people never have agreed, in having their own paid public service positions used against them and in any event, could not do so, as democratic government working for the public good, like democracy itself, belongs to the people in perpetuity and is entailed for those yet to come, as their birthright.

When public officials cede/abuse their delegated powers (in the first instance, other than by relinquishing office,) the right of such powers reverts to the owners, the people; only the people can again again delegate them, to those holding office existing to serve the public interest - not to those working against it.

It is treason - not a 'trade deal' - to conspire to give over control of your country and people to hostile powers, even if fraudulently using a 'Trojan Horse' mechanism within a 'trade deal' initially allowing a more indirect and financial hostile corporate takeover via financial terrorism. And all 'trade deals' in any manner unconstitutionally and illegally allowing self-interests to impinge upon the public in any manner are leading up to this audacious and rapidly, globally fatal scam only known because of heroic leakers/writers/publishers over the conceived-and-initially-developed-at-American-public-expense-and-publicly-owned-by-them internet currently being handed over to corporate/billionaire control. So of course this is something that those in/to be coronated into the US government would prefer not to have email discussion of revealed to the public who was to know nothing of this until it was a 'done deal'.

This will be at least some of what lies within the deleted/withheld mystery emails which would cause the entire corrupted portion of government to fall, allowing the corruption to be removed. If this is not done, within a few decades, life on Earth will be. Which option is worse? And why would anyone hesitate to make the choice for survival and the chance to perhaps finally achieve democracy/civilization, with Fair Trade benefiting all involved, sustainable economies with living wages for all and the sustaining of what remains of our global life-support system?

We do not need multinational corporations to survive - although they cannot survive without the people and economies they've been mindlessly killing off, any more than any of us can survive without the natural life-support system they've been killing off as well. Under corporate rule, the unregulated markets will repeatedly crash anyway, the actual, ground-level economy has long been in a deep depression and would perish under this - much less permanent a disaster would result from dealing with this while we still have the chance.

Pulling together in our respective countries for a fresh start, with emergency aid for actual people in need and for small business, we can build up small and mid-sized businesses which will circulate money locally building a real, ground-level economy where people can afford to live again, engaging in Fair Trade with other countries and a reasonable profit for all engaged in this. Pull the money out of corporate welfare, weapons and invasions of other people's countries and put it into rebuilding our own. That's what a democracy does - and that's what we're supposed to have. Not a dystopia where even murder of the people is 'legalized' for profiteering overlords, directly and immediately leading into the total destruction of billions of years of evolution as well as the brief fruits of the long struggle for the recognition of the human/citizen/worker/women's/PoC etc. rights which corporate predators and traitors in public office would strip us of, in order to bleed us dry before the planet dies of their to-be-unbridled greed.

Or the American people can let the election-rigging and traitorous conspiracy stand as a 'done deal' yet again, for the last time, and accept the doom of the planet like the corporate serfs we all are to immediately become. But in that case, quit wondering about grandkids yet to be born. They'll wish they hadn't been, but probably not for all that long. Once you walk off that cliff, that uncomfortable long fall may last long enough for you to wish you hadn't rather a lot, but at that point it almost certainly can no longer be stopped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nak4OVJlhAU&index=27&list=RDA8EgDFKk5wA

The Brothers Bright - Awake O Sleeper

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Please read the following in full at source if at all possible. (Bolding mine.)

Fossil fuels are, of course, the result of profound changes occurring to originally organic matter compressed under great pressure in an oxygen-free environment.

In somewhat (sorta, roughly, overall, loosely speaking, lol,) the same manner as the human body taking up similarly formed chemicals not normally naturally consumed to, in some cases, pass up later utilizing real-deal, actually useful nutrients under the impression that it already has enough of those, it's hardly surprising that fast-evolving synthetic bacteria designed to consume fossil fuel oil should adapt to the consumption of living organic material when starved of oil.

What are these mutants doing to organisms and fertilizing matter in the soil itself, I wonder... and what will the pissing-in-their-shared-well oligarchs do with their released-for-profit Homing-Pigeons-Of-Doom destroying the global life-support system so much faster than otherwise anticipated - barring Hillary's Mutual Assured Destruction, of course, which anyway seems likely even if a Dem proxy or anyone other than Bernie/Jill gets into the Presidency.

Such hazards are readily predictable and, in fact, the potential issues of GMO organisms being released into the environment were predicted...

Reality/science cannot be denied, in reality.

http://journal-neo.org/2016/09/14/cynthia-the-flesh-eating-s/

Cynthia: Flesh-Eating Synthetic Bacteria that has Gone Wild

The reports about tests on human beings that are being routinely carried out by certain Western corporations have become a sort of a trend these days.

Among others, one can recall the story about the long struggle between civil authorities of various states and the US chemical giant Monsanto provoked by research in the potential dangers of GMO products, and the Monsanto-produced herbicide Roundup in particular. The actual damage inflicted on the agricultural business of various states is yet to be carefully assessed, but even at this stage it safe to say that Monsanto’s expansion into India and surrounding markets resulted in deaths of thousands of people.

However, in the nearest future, the planet could face yet another “monster” that was bred deep inside US corporate laboratories. We are talking about the first synthetic bacteria – Cynthia, created “to combat oil pollution in the Gulf of Mexico” which, according to the various reports that are often ignored by the corporate media, has mutated and has started attacking animals and humans. Now this highly lethal microorganism is on its way to Europe.

One could recall that back in April 2010 an explosion at a British Petroleum oil rig resulted in millions of barrels of oil contaminating the Gulf of Mexico. Despite the drastic measures taken to prevent an environmental catastrophe, an oil slick produced by the Deepwater Horizon oil spill covered over sixty thousand square miles.

As one of the means of addressing the environmental catastrophe on their hands, Washington decided to take drastic measures, regardless of the possible consequences of those actions. It was at that time when an artificially created microorganism nicknamed Cynthia was unleashed, without any kind of examination of the possible threat it may pose to the environment.

Cynthia is the brainchild of the J. Craig Venter Institute — which was engaged in genetic engineering experiments since the beginning of the 21st century — and Synthetic Genomics Inc, and was created and funded directly by BP. It was believed that Cynthia feeds on oil, but it turns out now that it is equally willing to consume all forms of organic life as well…

In 2011, Cynthia was unleashed in the Gulf of Mexico and in its initial stages of life it was absorbing oil slicks at breathtaking speed. In January, 2011 the Register reported that scientists were particularly impressed by the speed with which the bacteria was eating up its “meal”.

But then this bacteria mutated and soon was feeding on organic lifeforms. Strange reports started coming from the US, like five thousand birds falling victims of an “unknown disease” in Arkansas, or more that a hundred thousand dead fish found off the coast of north Louisiana. It was also reported that a total of 128 British Petroleum employees that participated in the liquidation of the oil slick were struck by some mysterious illness. According to various sources they were forbidden to seek relief in public hospitals, to prevent them from talking to anyone about what has happened to them…

Soon it was recorded that the disease and the symptoms that are now associated with the coastal zone of the Gulf of Mexico began spreading to the continental United States – for example, people who were caught by heavy rains that came from the Gulf of Mexico were also exposed to it.

In fact, such disturbing reports have become pretty common, in spite of the restrictive measures taken by the US government to prevent this information from spreading. In particular, it’s been reported that certain individuals who were unfortunate enough to take take a swim in the Gulf of Mexico often found themselves covered with itching sores only to die in agony a few days later due to extensive internal bleeding.

According to media reports, a person can become Cynthia’s victim under two circumstances: if it penetrated the skin barrier through a wound or if they were unfortunate enough to eat raw seafood infected by this bacteria. Once the bacteria is in the system, it penetrates into the layer between the skin and muscles and starts producing a toxin that disrupts tissues. It is known that Cynthia is capable of reproducing itself rapidly within the infected cells, and that it is immune to antibiotics.

According to the University of the District of Columbia (UDC), up to 40% of the residents of the territories adjacent to the Gulf of Mexico have become infected with severe respiratory and skin diseases, and one in four residents is planning to pack up and leave in the nearest future.

Still, Washington has been pretty determined to mute these reports by announcing that the growing death toll can be attributed to some “unknown virus.”

At the same time, we’ve been witnessing disturbing reports that Cynthia has started spreading to different regions of the world, since the mass death of seals in Alaska, near the town of Barrow, was accompanied by skin lesions and extensive damage to internal organs of the deceased animals.

At the rate the bacteria is spreading together with the Gulf Stream, Europe is definitely at risk. ...

... This is a problem of global proportions. The signs of a possible bacterial viral infection are already beginning to appear everywhere.The mysterious, unexplained illness affecting fish, marine mammals, animals, poultry, trees, and plants arise from the synthetic genomes that transforms natural organisms and force them to mutate.

However, even at the initial stage of the test trials of Cynthia, many experts were vocal in stressing the danger of synthetically created living organisms. ...

... Many environmentalists and human rights activists on the back of those disturbing reports say that the US government is not prepared to regulate this revolutionary domain of science. An international civil society organization based in Ottawa, Canada known as the ETC Group has sounded the alarm, arguing that Venter opened a “Pandora’s box” and that an international moratorium on the development in the field of synthetic biology in private laboratories must be introduced immediately, since such research may pose a threat to all life on the planet. ...

... Under these circumstances, there’s an urgent need to force Washington into singing the Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production and Stockpiling of Bacteriological (Biological) and Toxin Weapons and on their Destruction that it blocked unilaterally in 2001. Moreover, there must be a verification mechanism that would guarantee that all the provisions of this convention are observed to the letter by all those who signed it.

Jean Périer is an independent researcher and analyst and a renowned expert on the Near and Middle East, exclusively for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook”

It's do or die now, guys; although there may already be enough Anything For Extra Profit For The Right People damage in process to destroy life on the planet, there will be no restrictions on what can be done to us by The Right Greeds under corporate control. You're fighting with votes and political process not just for our lives, but for life itself.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Ken in MN's picture

...for hanging on to the blue dress...

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I want my two dollars!

katchen's picture

not to open her mouth.

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Citizen Of Earth's picture

:-O

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Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.

Amanda Matthews's picture

she didn't.

Old bastid needs to go into the Corrupt Old Politicians Home.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

Mon, 09/19/2016 - 11:49am — katchen

I trusted her

not to open her mouth.

Some swallow, some spit it out...

Edit: lol, ninja'd again before I'd even begun.

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A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

It must be hard to leave a position of such opportunity to generate untold wealth, and feed such a monstrous ego. .... But, as Wild Bill knows best...It got to be hard to be good!

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It got to be hard to be good!

for Bill, it's good to be hard. (bah-dum-bum) Wink

thank you! thank you! next show at 11pm.

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Is it hard?

Funny. I thought hard was knowing you're never gonna be hired again because you've been unemployed too long and everyone throws your resume in the garbage.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

WaterLily's picture

But it will be an insult to Obama's legacy if we don't vote for Her.

Okay.

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MsGrin's picture

I know a little about these things as my mother only screams at those she loves - seriously.

Ok, I'm kidding about Obama - they apparently, TRULY hate him and I think still see him as a little person, or maybe more accurately as someone they could not 'bring to heel.'

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

I suspect you're right about that - as super predators, the Clintons resent having a President they can't personally 'bring to heel'.

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Even Trump expressed regret.

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Seems to me he just blamed her for any problems. Oops. Bill is really losing it. He needs to take a very long vacation.

Wait ... No. On second thought, please proceed, Mr Clinton.

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MsGrin's picture

Like the last scene in Willy Wonka, the Wonkavator elevator goes up and up and up..

"Hold on tight, I'm not exactly sure what will happen..."

I'm not sure they'll get their happily ever after come Inauguration Day (with the Republicans already waiting to file impeachment).

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

Older and Wiser Now's picture

Let me add to the chorus of WOWs being expressed at this news. Just unbelievable.

TY, MsGrin, for another home run of an essay.

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~OaWN

MsGrin's picture

Nuttin' gonna stick on either of 'em as far as they are concerned. Yeck.

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

Well, either Bill's hoping the people have forgotten that wifey was Sec. of State or preparing to throw all of her State underlings under a bus loaded with exercise equipment - or, more likely, both.

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Alex Budarin's picture

so they don't have to worry about it. And so they can point to someone else when they screw up.

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"All Life is Problem Solving" - Karl Popper

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~OaWN

sojourns's picture

n/t

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"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage

riverlover's picture

I am a total outsider and I am TIRED of the lies and stonewalling.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

MsGrin's picture

will hit the fan. The Republicans are extremely excited to go after her.

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

ggersh's picture

of interest after you boarded the plane she was on?

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

"The woman made me do it!"

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ggersh's picture

next time check in with the wife, you see she's a feminist, you know she
cares about women and all that . -snark-

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

One, at any rate...

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Alex Budarin's picture

The ethical call was her responsibility, you see.

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"All Life is Problem Solving" - Karl Popper

ThoughtfulVoter's picture

Trying to deflect us from the real issue. Your abominable greed and corruption. Is this just another delaying tactic to stretch out the graft of the Foundation? Get everyone chasing their tails around the State Department's involvement to deter us from the real issue, which is that the Foundation should have been either shuttered or turned over to non-Clintons from the moment Hillary started her Presidential campaign?

I can hear Bill now...without the Foundation to rake in the profits of the Presidency, what's the point of my wife being elected? So I'll stonewall and throw blame long enough to reap in a few more millions.

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Do you really expect them to scrape by on less than a couple of hundred million bucks and whatever expenses they can still cover out of the Clinton Fundtion? Bill's antibiotics alone cost a small fortune!

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