Health summary by Hillary's Doctor
Submitted by Shopkeeper2 on Fri, 09/16/2016 - 8:41am
https://m.hrc.onl/secretary/10-documents/05-physician-letter/HRC_physici...
Last paragraph
My overall impression is that Mrs. Clinton has remained healthy and has not developed new medical conditions this year other than a sinus and ear infection and her recently diagnosed pneumonia. She is recovering well with antibiotics and rest. She continues to remain healthy and fit to serve as President of the United States.
Edit: addition of link for physician summary dated July 28 2015
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/31/us/politics/hillary-clinto...
Comments
Uh-huh, that's what she's been authorized to say,
and she has already proved her complicity with the Clinton campaign by going with the "overheated" and "dehydrated" nonsense excuse. (Someone who gets "overheated" and "dehydrated" at 79 degrees, with 40% humidity and a 12-20 mph breeze, has some kind of underlying health problem on the face of it - healthy people are not so severely affected by those weather conditions.)
Bill's excuse of "flu" would actually have been a better alibi, as people who have had the flu know that it can hit you suddenly like a sledgehammer and really knock you down. On the other hand flu is virulently contagious, putting really bad optics on that "hugging the little girl" sidewalk scene....
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Has not developed NEW health conditions this year!
Forget about the old progressive ones.
Go to the head of the class, Sunspots!
You found the weasel words: "new health conditions". Parsers gonna parse. Obfuscators gonna obfuscate.
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
Damn it! You beat me to it.
And by at least half an hour. And that is why I retired, brain cells becoming sluggish.
Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.
The fact that they had her
The fact that they had her phrase it that way, and knowing how the Clintons and the Clinton campaign love to parse words, this is a clear admission that she has pre-existing health conditions. And if they were minor they would be mentioned in my opinion,
That's the whole problem with mutliple lies
you can't trust the people telling them, even if they end up telling the truth at some point.
I think the Bill Clinton CNN clip is what sunk this whole thing (though of course, YMMV). Fucking bald face lies on camera, almost slips up and then CNN edits it out. Biggest TELL ever...
Bill wants to say something......
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And we are supposed to believe...
This propaganda from the HRC Campaign...
Quite frankly, they have blown it by having "Too Many Stories" already, so nothing from them is believable any more...
They have no credibility...
If you cross publish this as a diary at The Great Orange Stain/Satan you might find a more receptive audience and perhaps even make the "Wreck List."
If $hillary was to check in at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center for a complete physical checkup as many presidents have in the past, and release all records it might pass muster...
Or maybe they would be bought off too...
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~John F. Kennedy~
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Another MD:
"The thing I have told people is once you have blood clots gumming up your brain, things don’t get better. This is a progressive problem and as someone who has extensively studied coagulation, the notion put out by HRC’s staff that you put someone on blood thinners, the clot dissolves because of the blood thinner, and a person has a full recovery is complete baloney. A disruption in blood flow to the brain is going to be followed by continued disruptions in blood flow, and I know of no treatment to stop it in a case like HRC’s that involves smaller blood vessels."
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-15/late-stage-lying-pneumonia-theo...
Statement by "M.D." partially true.
Persons with small vessel disease (arterioles--little arteries) have a bad prognosis because even anticoagulants or aspirin doesn't stop the slow avalanche of additive white matter disease. Now HRC may have this--or not. She did have three venous thromboses--these are not arterial by definition. Dural sinus thrombosis is a clotting disorder of a large vein--just like the leg veins. Most of the damage done by DST is immediate and may be fatal. Over a period of weeks the degenerative processes started by the DST have usually subsided, but often the damage done does not recur. Recurrence of DST is quite rare.
BTW, the correct treatment of acute DST is blood thinners like heparin or IV tPA (tissue plasminogen activator) a drug often given for acute heart attacks.
The doctor addresses the Over
The doctor addresses the Over-heating and dehydration in the summary.
A quick Google search found this:
We studied 96586 Coumadin users who have side effects from FDA and social media. ... Dehydration is found among people who take Coumadin, especially for people who are female, 60+ old , have been taking the ...
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Where are the links to the information you continue to post? I'd venture a guess that the readers here would appreciate that you post something here, besides your mere word and the mere word of the alleged "doctor".
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/coumadin/dehydration/
You should send this information to Hillary
Obviously she's too stupid to recognize the fact that her medication might make her susceptible to dehydration. You'd think her doctor or one of her
secret serviceattending physicians would at least carry around a couple of bottles of water to make sure this doesn't happen. With all the money she spends trying to hide her health issues, you'd think someone could afford the cost of a couple of bottles of water.“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush
Please don't be coy
You made two alleged statements of fact in that post. Where is your link to the doctor's full report?
I have written two things
I have written two things lunachikie:
Last paragraph- In the essay body with link provided.
The doctor addresses the Over-heating and dehydration in the summary.-
Which has the link in the essay body.
The paragraph on blood thinners in the comment is pasted from the link I provided in a reply to your request.
Is there something more that would that would be appropriate?
Yeah, I saw your link
after I posted. And this is the same doctor who lied about Hillary's "just being overheated".
Now see, maybe in that far-away magical place known as Hillaryland, a blatant lie is still considered to be a credible statement, but back here on Planet Earth--not so much. The woman has demonstrably lied at least once that we know of, so please explain exactly WHY we should believe her now. Specifics are helpful.
First off I am not an alien,
First off I am not an alien, but I'm sure Alex Jones would believe differently.
Have you even read the summary or did you skip that part and go directly to attack the messenger.
It seems to me the doctor pretty much explains Hillarys state of health. anything I would contribute would be pure speculation.
LOL!
Got one outside the Hillary Clinton online domains? I'm coming to learn that you do not seem to realize what a credible source really is. You might even be a naive fangirl who thinks you're helping her, but it's been long obvious here already that you're not.
And I'm going to ask you one more time to knock of the insulting insinuation. If you want to be ugly about it, take it to private message.
I have nothing to hide. I was
I have nothing to hide. I was responding to your back here on planet earth comment.
Yes these links I provide in the essay come from Hillarys Doctor, you can choose to disregard them.
Keep this in mind lunachickie, I would not respond to your comments so much if I did not hold you in high regard.
The doctor is under two constraints:
HIPAA, and HILLARY.
HIPAA limits what she can divulge, and HILLARY limits what she can truthfully divulge. ("Truthfully" - now there's a word that HRH doesn't even know the meaning of!)
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
The link is to an HRC domain
did you miss that part?
you come here
and post this like "here's the last word on Hillary' health. She's healthy! because her doctor says so and doctors never lie!" I could give a flyin fuck what her lying ass word salad doctor says. What you don't seem to get is, I for one don't believe a damn thing that comes out of their campaign. Everything they release or say has some kind of phony spin to it. They are incapable of a simple yes or no answer. They created this perception of themselves. It's ingrained in their programs. They are lying machines. Consequently, if they were to blurt out a truth, most people that actually pay attention wouldn't believe it. Look at the polls on her trustworthiness. They suck. I don't know what you're sellin but you won't find any buyers around here....
Hillary and the Democrats have few allies here if any.
I don't know why you trust anything coming out of her or her campaign, but again, few here do.
I didn't read the letter from the doctor updating her report. If Hillary was a pillar of good health, I still wouldn't agree that she is fit to be President. The whole health thing is a spectacle that may or may not add fuel to the flames, but it is so unimportant when compared to her poor judgment and corrupt values. I don't think there is a dime's worth of difference between Hillary and Trump except she's smart and he's stupid. This is why she is the most dangerous of the two.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Unless...
The health spectacle may be unimportant unless it causes or contributes to her poor judgement and corrupt values. That would make her doubly dangerous, because her judgement and values would continue to worsen as her health deteriorates.
I see no reason to take the chance
that "the health spectacle" may be unimportant, precisely because:
By your own definition, she'll be doubly-dangerous! Do you really wanna bet on her health being that good, knowing that these people lie about everything else?
The information in eHealth is spurious to say the least
In your 38 years of treating
In your 38 years of treating 1000 stroke patients, what was your position?
Medical doctor, Nurse, pharmacist, rehabilitation therapy?
I find it laughable that the sources I use is not up to your standard of Alex Jones.
If you want more information on the side effect, I provided a link. just provided that as a possibility, as there are several.
You providede ONE lousy link, ONCE,
after being repeatedly nagged about it. Not a single thing since.
The Gator has provided many links, to sources of admittedly varying credibility, in many essays (of varying quality).
Maybe you need to read up on past essays before mouthing off - because you're talking like someone who just joined a few days ago and has no idea of the history behind all this.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Amazing, I copied and pasted
Amazing, I copied and pasted and upon request provided the exact link. I provided two Doctors statements and gave the exact links. Nothing more. There is no way to link them anymore than I have.
. Lunachickie is not a nag. She was correct in requesting a link as I should have provided it with the copy and paste upon publishing,
It was provided immediately upon request.
Quantity does not Trump Quality.
there is no better source than Hillarys Doctor. I know that is frustrating unfortunately that is the game, they created, we are forced to play. It is the same game though for Trump , Jill Stein and that other Johnson dude.
Yeah, the link to a Hillary Clinton domain
What part of the word "unbiased source" do you not yet understand?
That it was provided immediately or five hours later isn't relevant.
I don't know you from Hillary's doctor. You are not convincing me or anybody else. You'll simply have to do better. I know it's frustrating, unfortunately, that's how it works around here.
candidate's doctor's
candidate's doctor's summaries and statements have been accepted as credible in the past to most journalists whether it meets your criteria of bias or not.
Thanks for Correcting the Record.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
I see what you did there, Bollox Ref.
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
::rimshot::
I'll eat my keyboard if she can prove...
her blood pressure, without medication, is 100/70. I. Do. Not. Believe. It!!!
This is a woman who appears to be at least 50 pounds overweight, is in one of the most stressful positions of any human being and her family has a history of heart disease. There is no way in hell this woman's blood pressure is 100/70 unless she downs a half a bottle of blood pressure medication an hour before the test. Funny there is no mention of her taking any blood pressure medication. Does anyone else really believe this?
And something else I've always been curious about Shopkeeper2... Are you paid a salary, an hourly wage or piece meal on a per post basis? Would you mind sharing with us the pay scale for being a paid Hillary shill?
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush
100/70 is an alarming blood pressure.
It doesn't take much to drop from 100/70 to clinical low blood pressure and it's attendant problems.
For me 100/70 is high
I'm usually at 90/65, which is why I can't donate blood and have to be careful about standing up too quickly. In excellent health, though, as long as I avoid fainting!
Fainting due to standing up too quickly
could well be due to orthostatic hypotension. But that didn't appear to be HRC's problem.
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
The problem with normal
is that what is generally normal is not necessarily normal for each of us individually. Maybe I'm an oddity but my blood pressure has always been "low" compared to what is "normal" for most people. The flight surgeons who performed the USAF flight and commission qualification physical in 1970 discovered I had unusually low blood pressure by their standards. I was required to have blood pressures taken three times a day for two weeks before the flight surgeons would sign off on the physical. I was 19 years old, 5' 10", and 135 pounds soaking wet and gawd awful active 18-19 hours a day. I went on to get my wings and despite becoming much heavier (I prefer under tall) as the years went on, 65 years old now, my normal blood pressure has only slightly increased (110/72 last physical vs 90/62 at 19). Daily for six years I flew two to three sorties a day pulling 5-6 Gs without a G suit. I've never had dizziness or faint feelings except when I've been ill. A claim of "alarming low blood pressure" at 100/70 is IMHO excessive. I'll grant that someone on blood thinners for a known clotting disorder is an entirely different breed of cat. She is clearly unwell and not the slightest bit forthcoming with believable much less consistent explanations. In other words a Clinton being a Clinton.
"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."
I don't think it's excessive.
For her in her present condition. She's having fainting spells and clearly has significant health issues. And she's not 19.
I've had the opposite condition. My BP when I tried to join the Army at 17 was 160/100. I had to take a 3 day BP test before they'd let me in. I got it down to 130/80 through radical diet change and self-medication with OTC drugs that lower BP temporarily. At 60, it's still high but not something I worry about much.
Fainting spells
are not necessarily BP caused. I'm 65, overweight, and not nearly as Ever Ready bunny active as I was at 19 but my BP is still lower than "alarmingly low". I don't have fainting spells or her obviously significant health issues either. There's plenty to be concerned about her actual health and refusal to be open with the voters without imagining there's fly shit in the pepper.
"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."
I don't know why... [edited]
[edited by EdG to remove unkind comment directed at other site member.]
I take after my mother
At one point when I was a kid, she had a check up and her doctor was alarmed by her low BP (90/60). He told her he had patients dying in the hospital whose BP was that low! He "prescribed" her to drink several cups of coffee a day to raise it (seriously - I remember this well!). Well, she was always very sensitive to caffeine, so she was a nervous wreck for the three or four days she tried to comply. So, yeah - "normal" for one is not right for everyone.
My last BP reading
was 108/70. Not bad for me!
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
WTF
Why this insistence on what a particular "doctor" says - why would anyone believe her, anymore than they'd believe ANYTHING the Clintons say. Repetitive - what is this essayist trying to "prove." Why was this woman walking with Clinton, TAKING HER PULSE, asking her to squeeze her hand, a definite action taking with a person who has Parkinson's Disease.
This ain't "fainting" from dehydration. Unable to become mobile after leaning against a cement pillar, unable to be mobile with out a person HOLDING HER UP under each elbow, while she still collapses, after those irregular also "seizure like movements" which didn't look like "fainting."
Repeating what a "doctor" - who didn't have the brains to hand Clinton a glass of water, and tell her to take OFF her jacket, isn't much of a "doctor."
ALSO - why was Clinton wearing Zeiss blue anti-seizure glasses. They were NOT regular sunglasses, that has been proved. This has not, YET, been addressed.
I noticed also how the letter says Hillary
Has not developed new medical conditions THIS YEAR. What about last year? Or before that?
Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.
Typical Clinton Legalese...
Every word is carefully crafted to not say something...
I'm done with that shit!
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
We learned several things in the letter.
1) it only addresses Clinton's health since July 15. Anything pre dating that jul 15 letter is not covered.
2) her allergies are severe enough for her to see an allergist (or she has enough money to run to a specialist for even a hang nail)
3) she had a severe enough sinus/ear infection during the primaries that she had a tube put in her ear. If we wind the debate tape, I believe we will find that we were commenting on her having apparent hearing problems during a debate. I suspect this aligns with the ear infection.
4) we found out some more medicine that she's on. (So what else did dr Lisa leave out of the jul 15 letter?)
5) she saw her dr on 9/2 for allergy/cold type symptoms, which was before the 3 minute coughing fit that the campaign blew off as allergies and ct.
It was dated July 15th?
Good catch.
PS Interestingly enough
if it addresses SINCE July 15th, they must have missed something...
A healthy 69 year old does not need
help going up a few steps.
PS After I wrote this I had to answer my door, went down 25 steps unassisted even by the bannister as I was carrying part of my recycling. Did it two more times to finish the chore. I am 67, almost morbidly obese (37.5 bmi) and with cardiac arrythmia. Oh, and I was thirsty as hell because I got distracted reading caucus99 and forgot my water. Did not get woozy, did not faint, no metal clips fell down my pants and kept both my Birkenstocks on.
Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.
73 year old Bernie running to catch a train:
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP_J6gmJYiU]
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
OTOH...
If you're SUPERWOMAN, you can recover from pneumonia that would have most people bedridden for weeks just by spending a couple of hours at Chelsea's apartment!!
metal clips
"no metal clips fell down my pants"
o one else has mentioned that except Gary Byrne.
In the mirror image video he shows of her collapsing, you can HEAR the metal clink!
wonder what it was???
Unless someone coughs up proof of this or that
I'll go to my grave believing it was a catheter clip that came loose when her legs went out from under here and several people manhandled her before she was even anywhere near the door of the ambulance...
lunachickie wins the prize!
In the mirror image video in the gary byrne article, you can REALLY hear it!
Still stunned the Clintons think they can get away with this.
If this is how they behave while campaigning -can you even imagine what they'd be like if back in the WH.
Strictly speaking, this could be true.
No comment on conditions that existed, diagnosed or not, prior to 11:59:59.999 pm 31December2015.
This is the Clinton Machine from whom we're hearing. Always the weasel words. Parse, parse, parse, parse, parse, parse, parse, parse, parse, parse, parse, parse, parse, parse, parse, parse.
Compensated Spokes Model for Big Poor.
To be fair
according to the Affordable Healthcare Act we no longer need to be concerned with pre-existing conditions.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
Yup
That's what they do:
It never fucking stops. Even when they could have actually told the truth, they open their mouths and obvious bald-faced lies come falling out. Every single time.
I'd like to know, too.
I'm a tad curious also.
"Are you paid a salary, an hourly wage or piece meal on a per post basis? Would you mind sharing with us the pay scale for being a paid Hillary shill?"
Do the worker drones qualify for long term appointment? How are the benefits? Do they pay more for excellence in certain areas, such as medical, which is obviously your area of expertise? Do you get lunch breaks or sick pay? This must be a grueling task, extolling the virtues of someone who has none-- virtues, that is. Do you get a list each day of the latest lies, with suggestions as to how to tweak them to at least sound as if they are real?
You definitely should be supplied with some new talking points, you've pounded this one into the ground. Perhaps you might find some in her new, best selling book; the reviews are spectacular! Or perhaps her loyal
servantsemployees will each get their very own signed copy. I'm sure they can find a way to write it off as a business expense, given their accounting expertise.You can hang around here, but it doesn't look like you can sell your wares in this environment. Frankly, your efforts here are lacking. Perhaps you need further
indoctrinationtraining.Nice try, Shopkeeper2.
Unfortunately, you are posting this to people who don't believe it for one second because anything that comes out of the hrc camp is going to be fudging any possibility of facts being present. If you want to believe it, go right ahead, but you might not want to be bringing this stuff to c99p unless you are truly looking for the other side of things. The folks here will always work hard to set the record straight.
Have a beautiful day!
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Shopkeeper2,
I do not believe it.
None of it.
I note that you have voted for Stein/Green before, and urge you to do so in November.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981