Drip drip drip. Clinton access for sale!

Submitted by Galtisalie on Tue, 08/23/2016 - 3:09pm

WASHINGTON (AP) -- More than half the people outside the government who met with Hillary Clinton while she was secretary of state gave money - either personally or through companies or groups - to the Clinton Foundation. It's an extraordinary proportion indicating her possible ethics challenges if elected president.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CAMPAIGN_2016_CLINTON_FOUNDATI...

Nothing to see here, move on.

[The following postscript was added after 23 recommends:]
P.S. To whom it may concern: I believe in being forthright and speaking up about the BS that the Clintons have engaged in and are. They are the walking definitions of dishonesty and neoliberals who have stabbed and will stab the left in the back at every turn. They are awful, and I've been saying it for decades. But what I do when I go into the voting booth is a separate issue and my own decision. I do often vote the lesser of two evils for reasons I won't try to summarize in this post. Michael Harrington voted for Carter. I twice voted for and opposed the impeachment of Clinton even though he did all manner of bad things on policy. I'm still likely to hold my nose and vote for Clinton--assuming she is not replaced on the Democratic Party ticket. I live in a swing state and, like Noam Chomsky (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/20/noam-chomsky-on-donald-trum...), I definitely do not want a President Trump.

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Submitted by Shiz on Tue, 08/23/2016 - 3:38pm

Ew.

Seriously. Just ew.

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I miss Colorado.

Submitted by Leu2500 on Tue, 08/23/2016 - 3:43pm

The numbers will get worse.

AP only has the "real" schedules for 2 of her 4 years at state so far.

Submitted by Amanda Matthews on Tue, 08/23/2016 - 4:23pm

Somebody actually went through Clinton’s calendar at the State

Somebody actually went through Clinton’s calendar at the State Dept. and made a disturbing finding

A review of the calendar by the Associated Press revealed that at least 75 meetings with outside political and corporate interests, donors to the Clinton Foundation and longtime political donors were not recorded or details were scrubbed.

Details of the meetings in question were included in State Department files turned over to AP after it sued the government. The detailed records of Clinton’s daily meetings are not reflected in her official calendar however.

The omissions were uncovered when the AP compared the 1,500-page calendar with separate planning schedules that Clinton’s aides supplied to her each day. The review found 114 names of outsiders who met with the then-secretary of state were missing from the calendar.

One calendar entry omitted the identities of a dozen major Wall Street and business leaders who met with Clinton at a private breakfast at the New York Stock Exchange in September 2009. State Department planning schedules however listed those names, many of which had lobbied the government and donated to the Clinton family charity, AP reported. The event was closed to the press and her calendar had omitted names of guests like Blackstone Group Chairman Steven Schwarzman, PepsiCo CEO Indra Nooyi and then-New York Bank of Mellon CEO Robert Kelly.

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/06/24/somebody-actually-went-through-cl...

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Now someone please explain to me which candidate is the most dishonest? I honestly cannot tell.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

Submitted by Leu2500 on Tue, 08/23/2016 - 5:13pm

Yes; AP figured that out.

And we're able to get the "real" schedules, part of which have been provided to date.

Submitted by Amanda Matthews on Tue, 08/23/2016 - 5:33pm

Well, we need the rest of her calendar, transcripts of her Wall

Street speeches, and her TPP emails (which State says they won't release until AFTER the elections).

These are exceedingly important:
State Department Blocks Release Of Hillary Clinton-Era TPP Emails Until After The Election
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/state-department-blocks-release...

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

Submitted by k9disc on Wed, 08/24/2016 - 2:21am

I'm Sure There's an Intellectual Privacy or Corporate Veil

excuse lying in there.

You know, can't be expecting to get the straight dope if cameras are rolling and whatnot...

Ugly, hidden politics.

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

Submitted by fakenews on Tue, 08/23/2016 - 3:59pm

MSNBC says...

Arranging meetings with 50% of contributors to the "foundation" - MSNB(S) - It only gives the appearance of impropriety and had 2 "guests" to back that up!! ha ha ha !!! I had lost faith in MSNBC a long time ago but right now, and I like to quote Sarah Silverman - "YOU'RE BEING RIDICULOUS!!"

Peace
FN

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"Democracy is technique and the ability of power not to be understood as oppressor. Capitalism is the boss and democracy is its spokesperson." Peace - FN

Submitted by Blasphemy101 on Tue, 08/23/2016 - 4:11pm

You got to love the $hill channel

With everything else known, they are still defending the Wicked Witch of Arkansas (or is it Illinois, or New York - I get confused on what state). MSNBC has fallen way too face down the $hill money/access hole to be saved. Luckily their ratings are so bad now that I could see the channel failing soon.

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War, War Never Changes - Fallout Series

Submitted by fakenews on Tue, 08/23/2016 - 4:17pm

ABC Pickle Jar scam also...

From reading Sherlock Holmes - I've been looking for "What should be there but isn't" (like the barking dog, eh?). Well on Kimmel's health test for Hillary opening the "pickle jar" - WHERE THE FUCK IS THE POP FROM THE JAR VACUUM???

Peace
FN

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"Democracy is technique and the ability of power not to be understood as oppressor. Capitalism is the boss and democracy is its spokesperson." Peace - FN

Submitted by Ellen North on Wed, 08/24/2016 - 5:07pm

Tue, 08/23/2016 - 4:17pm —

Tue, 08/23/2016 - 4:17pm — fakenews

ABC Pickle Jar scam also...

From reading Sherlock Holmes - I've been looking for "What should be there but isn't" (like the barking dog, eh?). Well on Kimmel's health test for Hillary opening the "pickle jar" - WHERE THE FUCK IS THE POP FROM THE JAR VACUUM???

Peace
FN

Hey, if cheating wasn't made evident somewhere, people would suspect that a ringer, rather than the real Hillary, was used for the pickle jar opening. It's like a form of Clinton ID.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Submitted by Leu2500 on Tue, 08/23/2016 - 5:27pm

The "appearance of impropriety"

Is itself a violation of federal ethics.

Submitted by josb on Tue, 08/23/2016 - 8:39pm

If she worked at my employer, I'd file an ethics complaint

As a regular employee, she'd likely be terminated - bribes are a no-no.

Submitted by Caerus on Tue, 08/23/2016 - 4:26pm

At least some papers are folllowing this

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/hillary-cl...

LOVE the question: where was the POP of the vacuum seal on the jar?

Getting to be fun to watch, can't bear to listen, to the sycophants spin this combination of violations.

Submitted by fakenews on Tue, 08/23/2016 - 4:59pm

Pickle Jar test in early USSR

Brezhnev died in 1982 and was replaced by Yuri Andropov, the recent head of the KGB. He tried to reform the nation through campaigns against alcoholism and absenteeism, but he died after being given the pickle jar health test little more than a year in office. He was replaced by party loyalist Konstantin Chernenko, who also died after the pickle jar health test after a year in office.

Peace & LOL
FN

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"Democracy is technique and the ability of power not to be understood as oppressor. Capitalism is the boss and democracy is its spokesperson." Peace - FN

Submitted by moneysmith on Tue, 08/23/2016 - 5:26pm

But...but... Hillary's going to fix it!

They must be worried about the foundation's pay to play reputation, because I got this from NPR's "breaking news": The Foundation will be dramatically downsized if she's elected.

No doubt it's just another lie, as meaningless as their earlier promise to scale back on contributions. But I do like the fact that they appear to be concerned. Or at least realize that voters no likey.

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Hell is empty and all the devils are here. William Shakespeare

Submitted by ThoughtfulVoter on Tue, 08/23/2016 - 5:41pm

editorial at NY Post

The editorial board referred to this (as we all probably know):

So much for Hillary Clinton’s claim to have handed in all of her work emails: Turns out the FBI found another 14,900 — meaning she “missed” at least a third of what the law required her to fork over.

It’ll be weeks before the public learns anything about what’s in that dump — but Monday brought plenty of dirt from yet another stash of emails, ones that top Hillary aide Huma Abedin sent or received on her clintonemail and other non-State accounts.

and ended their commentary with this scathing remark:

All par for the course for a crew that can’t tell the difference between the people’s business and their own.

Or between right and wrong.

http://nypost.com/2016/08/22/another-e-mail-dump-more-proof-of-clinton-i...

Submitted by Not Henry Kissinger on Tue, 08/23/2016 - 11:17pm

NY Post has been tough on Hillary

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

Submitted by Ellen North on Wed, 08/24/2016 - 4:46pm

Hey, shouldn't the

Hey, shouldn't the irresponsible dodge responsibility for their actions, since they can't cope with the responsibilities they shouldn't have had in the first place?

And isn't that great experience for potentially the last US Presidency before the probable end of life as we know it - only if being viewed safely from the Restaurant at the End Of The Universe, of course. Too bad that's a fictional place... but at least reality is now stranger than the Hitchhiker series.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Submitted by Bollox Ref on Tue, 08/23/2016 - 8:24pm

So, in order to speak with Her Ultimate Greatness,

some sort of vassal tribute was required.

The Glory of New Rome.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

Submitted by Ellen North on Wed, 08/24/2016 - 4:48pm

As in Rome, a lot of it's

As in Rome, a lot of (edit: trouble's) still due to lead and other neurotoxins, I suspect.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Submitted by Leu2500 on Tue, 08/23/2016 - 10:37pm

Isn't this charming.

Judicial Watch posted info about a $10M loan that a Clinton foundation donor received from a state dept. entity to build houses in Haiti.

The money was embezzled instead.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2016/08/hillary-state-dept-helped-jail...

This guy gave no more than $50,000 to the foundation. Not only did the clintons sell our country out, they sold it cheap.

Submitted by k9disc on Wed, 08/24/2016 - 2:18am

The Clinton's Are a Symptom, Not the Disease.

Don't hate the playa, hate the game.

That's key here. How much time do our senators and congresspeople spend on the phone fundraising? Where do they go as soon as they leave office?

This is not some kind of aberration, this is how the business of government works. Successfully currying favor and creating alliances with corporate sponsors and the uber wealthy is part of the job description. It isn't even "illegal".

Hillary is simply good at this game. Her and Bill have a knack for currying favor with the wealthy and believe that profits come before people -- the end.

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

Submitted by MsGrin on Wed, 08/24/2016 - 2:45am

It IS how it works AND they do it much better than most...

They've had DECADES of practice.

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

Submitted by Galtisalie on Wed, 08/24/2016 - 4:17am

Exactly. Which was one of the greatest things about Bernie's

campaign, and which highlights the ironic sadness of his losing in large part because of the Clinton and allies' manipulation of the deletion/slow release of the damn emails/the foundation and its donors' involvement with the State Department, and his unwillingness to pursue these issues in his campaign, which fit in perfectly with his emphasis on the overarching money in politics matter.

Submitted by Ellen North on Wed, 08/24/2016 - 5:11pm

Except for the fact that

Except for the fact that Bernie won the Dem nomination and he, the American people and the rest of the world were cheated out of it by epic levels of voter suppression, cheating and media manipulation.

If we survive this for long, many of us will never forgive or forget.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Submitted by ThoughtfulVoter on Thu, 08/25/2016 - 4:36pm

ethicists comments about closing Clinton Fountation

Response to Foundation belief that it can't be closed out before a potential inauguration:

But Richard Painter, former ethics counsel in the George W. Bush administration, said that if the Clintons really wanted to separate themselves, they could do it tomorrow.

“That could be done in one board meeting — change the name, have the board members resign and be replaced with people with no ties to the Clintons. No one in the Clinton family should be there. ... That’s an easy step to take. It could be done in an afternoon,” Painter said.

Chelsea staying on is a problem:

“Without a doubt, moving forward, having Chelsea at the foundation is really going to create problems for [Clinton],” Common Cause President Karen Hobert Flynn said, noting that ethics rules typically recognize the child of an official as being directly linked to their interests.

Painter again:

“My view is that they should stop accepting all donations, immediately, now,” he said. "And the second thing would be to promise that if she does win, the foundation is separated from everyone in the Clinton family permanently, so that we don’t hear about the Clinton Foundation for the next four years.”

Lots more discussion in this story here:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/clinton-foundation-transition-plan...