Bill Clinton just made a lot of trouble for Loretta Lynch: Republicans now calling on attorney general to step down after meeting on private jet
As if anymore fuel needed to be added to the conservative fire that the Obama administration is simply unable to conduct an impartial investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of private servers and emails while secretary of state, her husband decided to hold an impromptu meeting with the chief prosecutor in the investigation this week.
On Monday, Bill Clinton and Attorney General Loretta Lynch had what has been described as a chance meeting at the Phoenix Airport, where the former president allegedly held back his private jet on the tarmac to wait to board Lynch’s government plane to hold a 30-minute meeting that was described by Lynch as “primarily social.” More from CBS News:
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And of course, Republicans in Congress were quick to jump on news of the meeting to again pressure Lynch to appoint a special counsel to investigate the use of email and private serves at the State Department during Clinton’s tenure.
http://www.salon.com/2016/06/30/bill_clinton_just_put_a_target_on_lorett...
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I detest Bill Clinton. I have for decades since he showed what a totally moral bankrupt he was by making his political bones on the backs of the poor, women, and minorities. He is pure scum. And like water sinking to its own level, he found a woman who was as self-serving, unethical, devoid of integrity, and crooked as he is.
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I think AG Lynch made a world of potential hurt for herself.
I think what she did was give the appearance of impropriety and an explanation is needed.
I think the former president is equally as guilty of the above. He owes us an explanation.
That said: This oughta be good!
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
Like their words can be 'believed'? Slick Willie's already been
impeachef for lying once. It's not like we don't have a record of his sleazy past acts.
EDIT - Several hours later. 'beloved/believed'. Does this place have Autocorrect too?
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Yes indeed we do have a record of Bill's past acts.
AG Lynch is a politician as well as the chief legal officer in the administration. Didn't she, or someone on her staff, hear warning bells about the developing situation?
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
Just think, if we have no AG
nobody can be prosecuted.
The Clintons are now, literally, a danger to this nation. They have to be stopped before that convention. That woman cannot be handed the goddamn nomination. They did this on purpose to scuttle a prosecution. William Jefferson Clinton and Loretta Lynch need to be HELD TO ACCOUNT NOW for this obviously planned impropriety and the Republicans need to SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP. They know exactly what happened here.
Is that true? There are other prosecutors in the DOJ, surely?
Deputy AG and such?
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If they make decisions for the department
surely they can. The question would be "Would they?" How many deputies are there and who are they? It's a damn good question and gives me something to research. Because I have been just absolutely livid about this today, any time I see it or think about it.
Dammit, this has just been made way more political than criminal and it was done ON PURPOSE.
I have a Republican congressman in my district (thanks, gerrymandering from hell!). I've never as much as said hello to him. I think I may have to remedy that situation.
This is only a first draft. Damn, I'm pissed....
Looks good so far! Perhaps with enough pressure from Repubs,
AG Lynch would have to recuse herself and appoint one of her underlings to handle the prosecution. Don't know if that would be better than a special prosecutor as far as how long until indictment (we need her indicted before the convention, not after!), but maybe your congressman would know.
He might respond to you - Hillary's bound to be not his favorite person.
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But you don't seem to understand...
IMO, this is precisely WHY Clinton did what he did--to force the GOP to insist on a Special Prosecutor. That buys the Clintons time and allows her on the general election ballot.
No. Just NO. Loretta Lynch needs to do her job, RIGHT NOW.
I think you're 100% correct!
I don't really believe that Lynch was an active participant in this. I think Clinton ambushed her knowing full well what the fallout would be. If there is any transfer in overseeing the prosecution of this case, be it another DOJ prosecutor or a special one, Hillary will have already been sworn in long before they complete their initial investigation.
What amazes me is how easily Clinton obtained access to the AG's plane? You would think her security detail would have prevented him from ever walking up those stairs. Makes you think someone might have let it happen on purpose.
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Oh, I think Lynch did this. Or as you say, he wouldn't have had
such easy access. She totally cooperated. I don't think there's any hope she'll do her job. The only hope is that there were other attorneys on her team on this one, so that they could take right over and not delay anything. Very unlikely though, I'm afraid.
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She
cooperated and there's no hope she'll do her job.
Interesting choice of words, there. If she was cooperating, wouldn't she be doing her job? Otherwise, "there's no hope she'll do her job" implies that she was in cahoots with him. What did I miss?
Sorry, I was unclear. I think she cooperated with Bill's request
that he see her in private. Which she knew perfectly well would look shady and she should have told him no.
So depends on what you think her job is. If her job is to help Hill get elected President, then she did her job. If her job is to prosecute wrongdoers, then she did not, nor does it look like she is going to do that job that we'd like to think our tax dollars pay for.
I could be too cynical. I guess we'll see.
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Not just physical access
But Clinton also had to know the AG's itinerary and flight schedule.
F the F'n D's
Would she have had to tell him where she was
for him to learn that information?
All Lynch would have had to do is tell Slick Willie that she
couldn't meet with him, that is could/WOULD be perceived as being wrong wrong wrong, and that he needed to go away.
She's got a mind and a mouth. She's nobody's innocent victim.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Comey's FBI has a
credibility problem. They are leaking for political reasons which gives cover for others. The plot thickens, eh?
Look up at the stars and not down at your feet. Try to make sense of what you see, and wonder about what makes the universe exist. Be curious. Stephen Hawking
If they leaked, they've got a STUPID problem
because did they not think Grifter 1 and Grifter 2 would learn about it before the media did, and allow them to come up with something like this?
James Comey is NOT that stupid. This was no FBI leak. This was Bill Clinton running interference for his crooked wife.
FBI certainly has a credibility problem
after bowing to Political Correctness and not doing something about Mateen before he butchered 50 people and maimed another 50. Come knows he's got a giant hole to fill--and if he doesn't recommend indictment to Lynch, he better jump into that hole and pull the top over him.
He just wanted to block up voting precincts in Mass Primary too
.... just to be social.
The truth is that Bill Clinton can't wait to get back into The White House so that he can masturbate all over the White House carpet once again.
I did not have verbal intercourse with that woman
Sure Bill
PERFECT response. That's about describes his entire political
career, the old goat.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
As good as when Bill visited voting precincts - twice?
All of that during the primaries and all contrary to election laws in (most? all?) states about campaigning at polling places...?
And Moronic Media said almost nothing about it, or even talked about how outraged some of us were at such a cheap stunt or how illegal it is...?
Good little propaganda stenographers that Moronic Media's "journalists" and "reporters" are, they've faithfully quoted what the brief Bill-Lorretta meeting was all about, that Bill initiated the meeting (HRC's top surrogate)..., and left it at that.
Had that been Bernie waiting for Lynch and initiating a chat with the sitting AG on a tarmac about grandchildren, golf, whatever other nonsense, we'd be hearing about this unethical (if not illegal) meeting from now until after the DNC convention - daily, several times a day, plus manufactured poutrage.
The impropriety of such a meeting when Bill's wife is under suspicion regarding her emails and the internet server in their home, as well as Bill being under suspicion for money laundering via the Clinton Foundation cannot be swept under the carpet (thanks to their personal internet server to which both had access).
Faugh!!!
The impropriety while protesting the innocence thereof stinks like a rotting corpse on a hot day.
I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute ..., where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference. — President John F. Kennedy, Houston, TX, 12 September 1960
So I've been stewing about this since yesterday.
And reading everything I can about it today.
And this just popped into my mind: Is it at all possible ... that Lynch did this specifically in order to have to recuse herself?
Is it possible that she knows (or at least strongly suspects) Comey will recommend an indictment -- and is under such pressure not to indict -- that she would rather save her reputation by 'tarnishing' it now? If that makes sense?
I don't know, none of it makes sense so I'm just thinking out loud here.
It's also possible Lynch warned Bill...
... about how much evidence they have so the Clintons can come up with an acceptable lie people will believe about the evidence and then be declared innocent of violating US law and innocent of the money laundering going on through the Clinton Foundation..., and, of course, gullible people who favor HRC will gobble this up and vote for her anyway.
There are all sorts of possibilities, but it reeks of Bill getting info from Lynch, bribery money changing hands, password being given to Lynch (and/or her hubby, given he was with her, but I don't know what role he plays in her public life)..., and a whole host of other possibilities, none of them good, none of them as innocent as the public account of the exchange that we have heard so far.
I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute ..., where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference. — President John F. Kennedy, Houston, TX, 12 September 1960
Such A Public Display
almost guarantees Lynch appointing a special prosecutor, thus delaying an indictment before the convention.
Let's face it, Bill Clinton knows how to do meetings on the down low. If the meeting was to exchange info, it could so easily have been done privately. But to make it so public and obvious? Jesus, the Clintons are so fucking corrupt and manipulative. I hope Comey has all the facts lined up and ready to go public, and for once, I wish Rupert well for all the 24/7 Faux News exposes.
Empower Ink, I do not
wish Mr. Murdoch any modicum of success for this predatory destruction of journalism.
I am grateful for every act of journalist reporting. It is so rare. One would think CO2 damages the brain, or is it senality? After all, Bill Clinton no longer eats meat (or so he says).
Look up at the stars and not down at your feet. Try to make sense of what you see, and wonder about what makes the universe exist. Be curious. Stephen Hawking
Define "eat"
Look, AG Lynch is not stupid.
She is well aware of how this would look. If she had any intention whatsoever of prosecuting HRH, she would have turned him away or turned him out, whichever way it went down.
"When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained." - Mark Twain
That's what I thought, too....
So, what does Billary have on Loretta Lynch that she would allow him to throw caution to the winds and make Lynch look like a moron - or like a politician on the take...? It stinks to high heaven of bribery and corruption.
None of this makes any sense.
I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute ..., where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference. — President John F. Kennedy, Houston, TX, 12 September 1960
A few questions a real investigative reporter should ask
1. When was Bill's trip to Phoenix AZ scheduled?
2. When, as in what time and day did his plane arrive
3. Whom did he visit in AZ
4. What did he do in AZ other than meet with Lynch
Wouldn't it be funny if this was a last minute trip, he did not do anything important and or only arrived an hour or two before her?
Yes, and I haven't seen Bill asked
anything. It's right that Lynch is being questioned about it, but Bill should be answering questions as well. He should be asked about his judgment. Maybe he is hiding out.
"Mr. President, do you think your poor judgment and brash behavior is hurting your wife's presidential chances?" haha.
"Hope for the worst and expect the best"
Welcome to my world.
Two views from different generations:
Lyrics are copyrighted, you can find them if you search: Cat Stevens, " Can't Keep It In"
Look up at the stars and not down at your feet. Try to make sense of what you see, and wonder about what makes the universe exist. Be curious. Stephen Hawking
Don't expect an explanation from either of them
Because there won't be one offered.
And This kind of privileged action ONK Bills part is exactly what we will see (and won't be allowed to see) when Bill retakes the presidential stage... Along side his wife.
Orwell was an optimist
If they're not offering one up
then it is long past time to get pushier about getting one from them.
We are speculating
and assuming the worst: which is likely. BUT, given the "server" concern, and that this involved the cooperation of a former U.S. President: and given that the AG and her husband, as well as Secret Service, who could also be FBI, there is some reason to believe that maybe, whisper of a dream, . . . WJC got served. Someone in another post on a news article about this suggested that with VIPs who are difficult to track down, and public figures and all, the courtesy of a private serve gives them a chance to respond privately and make arrangements. I don't know how much credence to give this, but I do recall that when the Benghazi hearings revealed that she had a private server (which could have become known sooner) on Jan. 23 2013, she resigned on Feb. 1st: Comey was appointed for ten years and was sworn in the following sept. along with the OIG.
Hard to know whether this is for show or for real. Kabuki theatre: but it is a reverse take on the media lockdown and the Punch and Judy show.
That had not occurred to me
It does make some sense, though I don't know why the AG would serve papers directly. Then again, why would they meet on the tarmac-- spy stuff.
If he were served with papers, is this a measure to keep the press behind the 8 ball?
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
They wanted to be
seen meeting. This was no coincidence. If they had information to share or questions to ask it could have been done privately very easily. This was set up so they would be seen together. And I'll go as far and say it was a mutual setup. So we know that this favors the clintons/Obama/Lynch but how? I'll go with what many are speculating. It's a way to drag things out longer so clinton can get her grubby ass into the White House. I was planning to vote for Stein but at this rate I'm beginning to think I may vote for the person most likely to beat her...
That does make more sense.
Staging a bad optic for the reasons you have mentioned. Loretta has a long history with the Clintons. Guess it's time for them to pull in a marker. Seems a risky move but desperate men do desperate things. Bill wants to sleep on the White House sofas again he'll do anything to stain the furniture yet again.
I'm curious as what pool special prosecutors (if there exists such a pool) are pulled from? How long does it take to vet the candidate for said position?
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
Yes, we are
Served for what? Accessory to leaving state secrets on an unsecure email server? Maybe she won't cooperate and they're using him as leverage (like, the FBI is threatening to jail a former POTUS and "Mrs. Clinton, you could end this all right now if you would just cooperate with us, we wouldn't want to embarrass the man like that, would we?")
Eh, really? This makes my head hurt. I do kind of think you're right to note that we're all assuming the worst for us, and maybe that really isn't the case--maybe it's the worst for him? Sweet old Bill loves his own self a whole lot first before anyone else, I've always got that impression of him. Maybe he's got something on the IT guy and he's looking for immunity. Maybe he wants immunity so he can throw her under the bus?
Jaysus, the mind reels. We don't have time for this shit.
Nah. This was Bill being Bill (the skeezy bastid) and Loretta
being her own sleezy self. She met with Obama just before his endorsement of HillBillary. It's not really all that complicated. Sometimes it really is what it is.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Nah. This was Bill being Bill (the skeezy bastid) and Loretta
being her own sleezy self. She met with Obama just before his endorsement of HillBillary. It's not really all that complicated. Sometimes it really is what it is.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Addendum
It was a government jet? Used for her job?
It seems this would put pressure
or I should say even more pressure on AG Lynch to say yes if the investigation results in a recommendation to indict. She knows how bad that would look, and this makes it look even worse.
2nd thought - Aren't the Republicans concerned about the delay caused by getting a special prosecutor?
Not if they're keeping an eye on November.
FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.
"Just wanted to say hello"
What a huge pile of bull shit. I can't wait to see them both in jail.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Probe of Clinton’s email driven by facts, not politics:
White House
After he let the banks escape
With zero accountability, I have zero respect for anything Obama says. Just one more self serving crook.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
It sure is an interesting comment
coming AFTER the reported meeting.
The big difference between the Banksters' & the Clintons'
situation is that FBI has two task forces working toward recommendations for criminal prosecution of the Clintons.
chuck utzman
TULSI 2020
Earnest Josh Earnest needs to realize people are aware
of the fact that this administration's deeds are usually at variance from its pronouncements and appeals to broad ethical considerations are going to be met with derisive snickers.
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
If the rule of law were paramount Bush, Cheney and other
folks from that admin would have been tried for war crimes, and so would Obama.
What a damn fascist joke of a government we have.
No worries, Loretta!
A cushy, very well paid job with the Clinton Foundation awaits you after you step down as AG. The Family never forgets those who deliver a well-timed favor!
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Please note one thing- private jets (elite)
Okay how many of you had the opportunity to hold your private jet up to meet with a friend or associate on their private jet? My guess is few or none of us had private jet chance meetings. This whole episode smacks of not only collusion but elitism at its finest.
Moreover, how many private citizens could meet with the US AG for a quick social chat- few if none of us- this privileged and elitism needs to stop.
Please do not vote for either of these wealthy elite candidates- they are both terrible people and support the establishment.
at the 10th busiest airport in America
just by chance.......
If I pulled the same thing at the Stop & Shop, I'd have 5 taxi drivers up my ass, 17 senior citizens complaining about why I'm not done yet. And the Senior Citizen shuttle bus driver would be yelling at me
Yo...my brotha......
FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.
Wow.
I actually agree with the Republicans for once. This is such a strange electoral year.
Also, re:
Yeah, just like how he just wanted to spontaneously "thank" voters in Massachusetts, Illinois, and New York by electioneering? Nothing is ever a coincidence when the Clintons are involved. Who the hell even has the ability to casually walk on board the plane that the attorney general is on? So much hubris.
if he saw her on the tarmac
then why would he board her plane to talk? Did they re-board the plane?
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
......saw her on the tarmac, in the middle of the 10th busiest
airport in the US.
FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.
While I find this meeting as dubious as the next person
They met "on the tarmac", which is where folks with private jets go to get on them. The fact that it is a busy airport simply means that it is centrally located, not that people like them have to experience that busyness.
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
So which is it, Bill?
Did you "just happen to see her plane on the tarmac"?
Or was it "he heard she was arriving and held his plane for 30 minutes"?
Obviously Democrats are not as skilled as Republicans when it comes to message discipline.
Side note: The tarmac and hangars for private jets at Sky Harbor is entirely separate from the main terminals and is accessed from an entirely different road that dead ends at an Air Force installation. I used to have to go to the FedEx hub there to drop off lab shipments. It's totally believable that one elite could spot another elite there; it's not busy or crowded at all.
"When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained." - Mark Twain
How did Billary know which plane Lynch was on?
Who told Billary that Lynch was going to be in Phoenix and arrive at the same airport tarmac where he was sitting, presumably waiting to take off?
Did Lynch already know Billary was on the tarmac waiting for her?
This whole setup sounds stalker-ish on Bill's part..., unless Lynch was willingly colluding with Billary.
I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute ..., where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference. — President John F. Kennedy, Houston, TX, 12 September 1960
It's possible this was the desired reaction
Someone at K4S made the very interesting point yesterday that this act by Clinton was deliberately done to provoke a call for a special prosecutor. That will further delay the proceedings. A new prosecutor would have to be selected, appointed, get up to speed with the investigation, perhaps re-do this or that, etc. etc. Everyone's gone in August, so things get rolling in September, when more dust gets thrown up and the election season hits high pitch. Suddenly the FBI will be pressured not to do anything too close to Election Day, and then...we're past the election.
So it's quite possible this was a ploy to muck up the works and stretch things out. And I would not discount the possibility that the establishment Republicans know what their role is to play in this kabuki theater, and happily comply.
Absolutely.
There is no better way to ensure this can gets kicked down the road to after the election. Obama doesn't have to step in saving face with the Clintons and Lynch gets to avoid a career limiting decision. Coney is left hanging from the hook. His recommendation to prosecute is instantly deemed political. I suspect he was seen as leaning towards prosecution and had to be short circuited. Of course now we get to see a second Clinton impeached but not until they do all the damage their cold little hearts and minds can dream up. Whatever happens serves both parties quite well.
"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."
Continuing....
Nobody reaches the office of US Attorney General with knowing how to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest. A prosecutor will be master at the art. The only way this sort of thing happens is if you think you are above criticism or that is your intent. We have another case of everyone playing their role for personal gain and profit. Any bets on how long before this point is made in the MSM?
"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."
No kidding, vtcc
Look at Holder being put in charge of the DOJ after the biggest economic crash since GS was repealed.
Holder came from a law firm that defends the banks, and since so many people knew that they committed fraud, who would be the best person to put in charge of investigating them if Obama wanted to make sure that no one was prosecuted?
They paid billions in fines, but those billions didn't come close to the profits they made.
And what the hell does 'to big to jail' even mean?
Both Bush president's put people in prison.
Over a thousand went to prison during the S&L scandal.
Bush had friends at Enron and even they went to prison.
Holder and Obama didn't even bother to charge anymore from the banks.
And not one person stepped in when millions of people were being thrown out of their houses by the crooked robo MERS.
The hamp program was a failure because while one part of the bank were working with people, the other part was working on foreclosing them anyway.
And a lot of the money wasn't even used.
It was another Obama scam.
How many campaign promises did he even keep?
From not filibustering the FISA vote, to not doing stupid stuff.
I'd say that Libya was stupid stuff.
Best president ever, my ass.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
It's only when
you put these actions all together in one place that it seems plausible everything you mentioned and more was intended. They had cover and a convenient excuse in a Republican mob of perfect assholes. I suppose this conclusion based on these observations of the history of the past nearly eight years could easily be dismissed as CT. At least until considering how perfectly each of these events flowed together and met the interests of the elites in both parties. Obama couldn't have lost every important battle (and even the presumed important ones like the ACA are a bag of shit oozing out of the bottom of the bag) while winning only the social ones without actually never intending to make a fix anything. It's been too perfect to have just happened. It's on a level with the Globe Trotters vs the Washington Generals. I'd be glad to entertain an alternate explanation but I don't think there is one.
"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."
You are right about the ACA being a bag of shit
The democrats said that they let the republicans water it down in order for them to vote for it, but knowing damned well that they weren't going to. And it passed without one single republican voting for it, but they let the watered down parts stay in. Then they gave it to Baucus knowing that Liz Fowler from WellPoint was on his staff and helped write it. And after it passed where did she go? Back to WellPoint, just like Holder went back to his law firm that held his job open for him for 6 years. And he has a very nice corner office as a reward. Obama didn't do a damned thing on the ACA in congress while it was being debated. But he was working with the insurance and pharmaceutical companies during the same time making sure that they got everything they wanted in the bill.
No importing drugs from Canada and no limits on not raising premiums.
So many people are paying more for health insurance then they are for their mortgages. And they can't use it because they first have to make their $6-10,000 dollar deductibles.
The only time he leaned on congress was when he leaned on the people who were holding out. What did Lincoln get in return for her vote?
Imagine if he had worked as hard on the ACA as he has for the TPP?
Good lord red, what a wasted 7 years he's spent on the people in this country.
But his friends in the defense industries are having a banner decade.
I've read reports that say they have made over $100 billion in profits since he took office.
And how many innocent civilians has he killed with his drones? In countries that we aren't at war with. And congress sits on their asses and don't do anything to rein him in.
He has made an agreement with Putin to not kill his moderate rebels that are helping him overthrow Assad. I have no idea why Putin would agree with that because he's supposed to be protecting Assad.
And especially because Obama and NATO are surrounding Russia trying to goad him into war.
That just makes no fucking sense. Don't bomb my rebels while I'm trying to push you into a war.
If this is how our leaders play their fucking game of thrones, I have no idea what the end goals are.
Does anyone else?
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
A question to ponder...
Why would Clinton & Lynch (seasoned lawyers and politicos both) risk such a blatantly scandalous meeting if they DIDN'T have important matters to discuss?
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Or money to change hands...
... or a password to an untraceable offshore account to hand over (keeps them from being spied upon by the government via email, phone, internet).
Always follow the money. Always!
What's the price of loyalty, misplaced patriotism, and betrayal of the US nowadays?
I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute ..., where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference. — President John F. Kennedy, Houston, TX, 12 September 1960
Important matters, dab smack in the middle
of the 10 busiest airport in the country......
Ah no.
Kabuki, yes.
High Theater, yes.
Telegraphing, yes.
Symbolism, yes.
Fodder for the Mass Media?
FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.
This wasn't for show.
Something went down on that plane.
Whether it's good news for Hillary or bad remains to be seen.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
My question is
Why did they make it so public? Did Bill just actually see her plane on the tarmac or did he know that she was coming? Has anyone asked her why she was even there?
I'm so disgusted with this administration.
Obama's war on whistle blowers when those people followed the rules, yet were prosecuted anyway.
Except for Petrayous who got off by paying a $100 thousand dollar fine but got to keep both his rank and pension, while John K went to prison and Drake was put through hell.
Look at how many anonymous people leak classified information, yet as long as it benefits the government propaganda machine, no one is prosecuted for them.
Most transparent administration ever, my ass again.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
i wonder if bill made any 'colored people's time' jokes
like hillary did in new york
did 9 months in California prison, because Neoliberal Democrats and GOP maggots work together to profit off the drug war
I missed that...
Do you have a handy link?
Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?
CP time link
ain't it hilarious?
http://www.salon.com/2016/04/11/watch_hillary_clinton_and_bill_de_blasio...
Except in this case...
CP stands for Clinton Pardon.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
White people...
Don't try to borrow black people's phrases. At best you just look stupid.
Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?
I was confused by the whole "CP time" thing
until Obama brought it up at a speech somewhere. Apparently, it is an inside joke among ambitious black people and is not to be indulged in by white folks. I understand this.
In my group of acquaintances that are melatonin challenged, "That's might white of you" is an insult. Persons of color would probably not understand the nuances and would likely misuse the phrase.
Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.
De Blasio's wife and children are black. Does he get to be an
honorary black man?
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LOL
I don't think Hillary was being intentionally racist here. She is more like your aunt at the family gathering who is trying to be 'cool' and is failing miserably at it.
Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?
Looks like...
Obama is going to get caught up in the Clinton Tar Baby. He had a chance to end his stint with a positive approval. So much for his 'legacy'.
Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?
Seriously.
I once admired his intelligence.
WTF is wrong with his compass lately? Jesus.
Not sure he really had one...
I think he is just a more intelligent and calculating Neo-lib, Neo-con.
Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?
I used to think that Obama was very astute
even when I didn't agree with him.
What the heck has happened to him?
Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.
As I've said about the Clinton, there is a big difference
between being cunning and/or sly and being intelligent. Simply judging Obama's almost 8 years in office, I've yet to see any real strong evidence he's actually a 'Constitutional Scholar' and the . Or has even read the thing beginning to end.
As for the Clintons, I KNOW they aren't all that bright. They've spent their entire political careers denying doing things that only a moron would do if he/she wanted a career in politics. But this is where being sly and crafty prevails, and this is why the Clintons get away with being the most corrupt politicians in this country.
(Trump isn't a politician. He's a fool that let his mouth write a check that his ass can't cash. And now he's stuck.)
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
C'mon don't you always
...see your friend's planes on the tarmac and bop on over to say howdy and see how the kids have been?
If I had a nickel every time that happened to me I'd still need a quarter to have 25 cents.
Dig within. There lies the wellspring of all good. Ever dig and it will ever flow
Marcus Aurelius
Who Broke the Story?
Just wondering if they were 'caught' after the meeting, or did they 'announce' the meeting. I daresay that would tell a lot. The optics for this from Lynch's point of view are incredibly, breathtakingly bad. What was she thinking? Unless she was thinking that she couldn't say no to a man who might be her new boss, or co-boss, and she wants to be able to have lunch in Washington again post election. The optics just couldn't be worse.
From his point of view, of course optics and the 'appearance of impropriety' (which, we were taught in ethics class, is just as bad as impropriety itself) have never been concerns of either of the Clintons. They both disgust me.
I still maintain, and have felt all along (especially moreso after those times Hillary proclaimed she WOULD be the nominee)that Fate is preparing the stage for a Grand Catastrophe, a la Greek Drama, where the central character is done in by his or her fatal flaw. My friends, we are living in 'interesting times,' as the old Chinese curse goes...
Semper ubi sub ubi
But..., but..., but...
So far the Grand Catastrophe of the Greek Drama is that We the People have been undone by the fatal flaws - e.g., the Bushista admin, and the Obama admin because he kept so many of the characters from the Bushista admin, as well as the policies of his predecessor.
IF things do not change SOON - VERY SOON, as in BEFORE the convention in Philly which is now less than a month away, the Grand Joke will still be on We the People and will will have four-to-eight more years of reality TV drama like we endured when HRC's husband was prez. Or else the reality TV star may become prez and turn our government into his very own reality TV series. If not, HRC will turn this nation into a fascist dictatorship under the rule of TPP corporations who will take over our courts, Congress will continue to be owned by the corporation and banks and Wall Street, and our Treasury & Social Security Trust Fund will be given to the Clinton Foundation. There is no catastrophe too awful to imagine if either one is "elected" (via hacked e-voting machines) as prez.
While I fervently WISH for the Clintonistas and Drumpfs in this campaign season to get their just rewards, that the Furies will eliminate them from the running..., and the Fates favor We the People with a sensible president for a change - like Bernie Sanders (after a quarter of a century with disastrous "leaders," we are due some good fortune for a change), I can't help but feel we're careening toward the precipice at an alarming rate and will be unable to stop before heading into the abyss.
Make it stop, please?!?!?
Bernie or Bust!!!
I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute ..., where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference. — President John F. Kennedy, Houston, TX, 12 September 1960
Hear! Hear!
So true-- but I have this strange feeling- I didn't have it with Bush and Co. I really have it now, and I don't believe it's just wishful thinking. I just really feel that neither Drumpf nor HRC will be in the race in November-- especially HRC. I think the repugs will trot out Mittens. He's almost as unbridledly ambitious as the Clintons.
Semper ubi sub ubi
The escape hatch is the green door on the left.
Even if Bernie doesn't come with us, I think we could raise Jill up to a point where she scared the hell out of the Establishment. AND if Bernie has truly inspired people to run for every congressional seat and those brave souls kick some dead weight out of Congress, the progressives just might be in a position to win a contingent election.
Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.
NonnyO
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
And we'll get the same boss with Hillary
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