Pot legalization and the increasingly desperate fight against it

A new poll came out recently showing that 54% of Americans support full legalization of marijuana and a whopping 89% support medical marijuana, "with every demographic backing it with at least 81 percent support."

And this terrifies some people.

Up to 11 states could be voting on pro-marijuana bills this November.

guaranteed to vote on marijuana

Nevada: full legalization for adults
Maine: full legalization for adults
Florida: medical marijuana

most probably will vote on marijuana

California: full legalization for adults

still collecting signatures

Arizona: full legalization for adults
Massachusetts: full legalization for adults
Montana: full legalization for adults
North Dakota: full legalization for adults
Arkansas: medical marijuana
Missouri: medical marijuana
Oklahoma: medical marijuana

This long-overdue movement to legalize a largely harmless weed is being done entirely from the grassroots. Politicians are being forced, kicking and screaming, to accept it. Hillary's current position is incremental reform after previously opposing it.
Largely anonymous political action groups have sprung up to oppose legalization, and they all say the same thing -

Won't Someone Think of the Children!

One of the things that gets brought up again and again – despite the many studies saying otherwise – is that legalization will increase the rate at which our youth become users of marijuana. Whether it’s preschoolers accidentally eating a THC infused gummy or a teen getting bud with a fake I.D., it’s always one of the first “go-to” reasons in these situations.
Scott Gagnon (spokesman of Mainers Protecting Our Youth and Communities as well as chairman of Smart Approaches to Marijuana) has already used both of these as examples. He tried to use edibles and emergency room trips with young children at first – to which David Boyer (spokesman of the Campaign to Regulate Marijuana like Alcohol) responded that those studies are inconclusive; especially considering after legalization people are more likely to be honest with a doctor about whether or not marijuana may have been involved.
The next issue that Gagnon brought up was that the initiative did not outline any penalties for anyone who sells marijuana to minors. To which Boyer stated simply that they did not feel the need to add that as it is already illegal and will remain illegal after the referendum passes.

Uh, yeah. The thing is, someone has already looked into this.

The study, which surveyed more than 216,000 adolescents from all 50 states, surprisingly found marijuana use by young people is dropping and marijuana-related problems among teens are dropping, even as availability and adult marijuana use goes up, according to a press release.
The researchers used data from people aged 12 to 17 collected over a 12-year span. In that time from 2002 to 2013, the number of teens who had problems related to marijuana, like drug dependency or trouble with school and relationships, declined by 24 percent.
At the same time as this drop in marijuana use, behavioral problems, like fighting and drug dealing, also dropped.

The Retailers Association of Massachusetts have also come out against marijuana legalization. It seems that legalizing pot will turn workers everywhere into stoners in the same way legalizing alcohol turned them all into drunks. [/s]

In Arizona, the opposing to marijuana legalization is coming from the most hypocritical group of all.

According to the Phoenix New Times, a top Arizona anti-marijuana legalization group that champions public health has taken campaign contributions from an industry that some may see as deeply hypocritical: booze.
Earlier this week, the New Times reported that Arizonans for Responsible Drug Policy (ARDP), a major player in the fight against legalization in the state, received a $10,000 donation from the Arizona Wine and Spirits Wholesale Association (AWSWA) last month, citing campaign-finance records.
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"It really is exceptionally hypocritical for this group, which claims marijuana is too dangerous to regulate, is taking money from purveyors of a far more dangerous substance," Mason Tvert, spokesperson for the Marijuana Policy Project — the group behind a heavily supported legalization measure in Arizona — told ATTN: of ARDP's opposition.
"This campaign to maintain marijuana prohibition is being funded by alcohol money and it raises a lot fo questions about the actual intentions of this group, which says they are primarily interested in public health," Tvert said.

In California, the opposition is coming from nearly as cynical of group - prisons and prison guards.

“Roughly half of the money raised to oppose a ballot measure to legalize recreational marijuana in California is coming from police and prison guard groups, terrified that they might lose the revenue streams to which they have become so deeply addicted,” The Intercept’s Lee Fang reported on Wednesday.

A new study shows an increase of people being caught transporting marijuana from Colorado to Nebraska. Of course once you read the article you learn there is nothing surprising here.

“From what we can take from the data, we think it’s more of the small, personal use. It’s not people bringing over large amounts for sale,” Spohn said. “Although the smaller amounts could then be distributed to friends, family, small networks, things like that. But I don’t think it’s people bringing bales over, I don’t think we’re seeing increases like that.”
Marijuana is decriminalized in Nebraska, but that doesn’t mean there are no consequences for possessing it. Anything under an ounce is considered a minor infraction, punishable by a fine of up to $300 for first time offenders.

Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper called voters "reckless" for approving legalization in the first place, a remark he later downgraded to "risky." He has since changed his tune.

“If I had that magic wand now, I don’t know if I would wave it,” he said. “It’s beginning to look like it might work.”
It was the latest in a series of comments Hickenlooper has made signaling what looks like an evolution of his views on marijuana. In April last year, during an interview with Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo, Hickenlooper said legal weed was “not as vexing as we thought it was going to be.”
And during an appearance on "60 Minutes," he predicted that Colorado might “actually create a system that could work” in successfully regulating marijuana.
Why the change?
“The predictions of fire and brimstone have failed to materialize,” said Mason Tvert, spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project, a national group working to reform pot laws. “Most Coloradoans, including the governor, recognize that the law is working.”
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My understanding was at some point in the near future, the DEA was supposed to make an announcement concerning marijuana being a level 1 controlled substance.

I ain't holdin' my breath.

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Hello my old (bud)dy. Good one.

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Great to see you around!

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DEA should make an announcement this month. See HuffPo:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dea-marijuana-reschedule_us_5704567d...

It appears DEA is dragging its feet, but has a deadline to decide and act.

Political pressure by Elizabeth Warren, and numerous others, is responsible for forcing the issue.

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Be a Friend of the Earth, cherish it and protect it.

They aren't bringing over 'bails' of marijuana from Colorado. In order to have that much marijuana in your possession - you have to be registered. And anybody who holds that much is not going to risk their business by selling you that much. You can only purchase 1/4 once per transaction if you are not a resident of Colorado. This means that you would have to visit 64 different stores in order to get a pound. And I think all transactions are monitored by the state, so it would be hard to do that. Bottom line, because it is the most regulated sales transaction in the state, nobody is going to risk skirting the laws and losing the ability to sell it.

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Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?

I'm being a bit cheeky here - but I am kinda torn on these laws. On the one hand, marijuana is much more harmless than alcohol and Colorado is shown that allowing the sale of recreational marijuana is not the end-of-the-world that many predicted. On the other hand, our state is making bank on this sale - not just direct sales tax but massive tourism. Where would you rather ski? So, if these other states rejected it - more tax revenue for us Smile

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I want to ski "High"

SKI BUM

But I`ll Ski Till You're Dead also.

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I used to average about 80+ days a season when I lived there.

Out of all the things I could physically do, I think I miss skiing the most.

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off it being illegal and will lose that money train if/when it goes full legal. Medical marijuana must be putting a crimp in their pocketbooks as it is, since people can grow their own, too. Follow the money is the best line anyone ever came up with because it always leads to the truth of the matter.

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Cops
For-profit prisons
Defense attorneys
Booze companies
Pharmaceuticals

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studying it.

I could go on for days, lol!

There are several groups that we have been fighting with (I have campaigned for Medical Cannabis in 4 states now, lol!) that stand to lose significant amounts of revenue and it isn't always the most obvious ones you would think of, such as Big Pharma and Private Corrections.

There are several others such as:

The Alcohol industry - Virtually all the studies have shown that Cannabis has a substitutive effect rather than a complementary effect in relation to alcohol use, long story short what this means is that people that consume cannabis tend to do so as a replacement to alcohol.

Rehabs - Many Addiction specialists and rehab centers would be out a significant portion of their revenue stream as a large portion of their attendee's are not there on a completely voluntary basis. I.E. A large percentage are there via court mandated treatment as part of a plea deal or in an effort to mitigate the effect of a possession charge in general.

The Casino industry - again, one of those that isn't obvious on it's face but it kinda goes hand in hand with the alcohol side of things. People consuming cannabis tend to not go and lose their kids college fund on the blackjack table after smoking a joint. Also, those that do venture into casinos under only the influence of cannabis tend to bet less and leave sooner. (Although this could be partially caused by them not being able to consume cannabis on premises.)

There are many other "Smaller" business that also will see a decline in revenue, such as bail bondsmen.

The list of opponents against it are legion, but they all have one thing in common.

Money.

Don't let them full you, many may claim to be fighting it to "Protect the Children" but if they really were worried about that all prohibition would be ended.

Whatever drugs you want sold on the playground are the ones you keep illegal.

When was the last time you saw a dealer selling 6 packs on the street corner? You don't. Simply because the profit margin is low and the cost of being caught doing so are high. When you have a legal, regulated market you remove the street level dealers, and a lot of the jiuvinial access that goes with it.

And don't even get me started on how it would reduce crime by allowing requiring our law enforcement officers to stop going after the lowest hanging fruit and start addressing real crime.

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This is it exactly:

"When was the last time you saw a dealer selling 6 packs on the street corner? You don't. Simply because the profit margin is low and the cost of being caught doing so are high. When you have a legal, regulated market you remove the street level dealers, and a lot of the jiuvinial access that goes with it. "

It was much easier to acquire pot when I went to high school in the late 80s than it was to acquire alcoholic beverages.

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This would make a great essay, not only for the information but also because it gets to the heart of why it's a waste of time to focus on electing Democrats, rather than working directly toward the issues that impact our lives. Democratic politicians are every bit as owned by those moneyed interests as republicans. Laws will change when enough people demand it, from both parties, and not a minute sooner.

It's great to see the governor of Colorado admitting that it's working, and beneficial to the state. That will go a long way in supporting legalization efforts elsewhere. Not ready to get my hopes up for Arizona just yet, but I'm more optimistic than ever before.

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Raggedy Ann's picture

Follow the money - that's where you will find resistance.

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Yes, do grow your own.
Plus, if everyone did, it would be cheaper & easier to just share.
I`ve been growing my own for over 40 years & it`s only been a pleasure.

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Alas, some of us live in less enlightened places and have to resort to friends or closets. Smile

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Raggedy Andy has PTSD, so we grow our own for him and when my PTSD (only diagnosed by me, LOL!) flares up, I have to partake to settle myself down. Wink

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Actually the California bill isn't full legalization - it's a half-assed, watered down bill that does nothing to address commercial availability, sales, manufacturing, jobs, taxation, farming or access to safe banking. Possession will be limited to 1 ounce or 6 homegrown plants and will not include other forms such as oils and extracts. Considering the ease of access and ubiquity of medical marijuana in California, it does very little to change the dynamic. The only purpose is to subvert moving forward with laws like Colorado, Oregon and Washington.

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I was hoping CA would set up a working market that would be the model for other states. I know the hippies and old school growers were fighting to have a say. I guess $$$ talks loudest.

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Maybe there is more than one bill? Because I found this.

The Control, Regulate and Tax Adult Use of Marijuana Initiative (#15-0103) is an initiated state statute proposed for the California ballot on November 8, 2016.

The measure would legalize marijuana and hemp under state law. The initiative was also designed to establish state agencies to oversee the licensing and regulation of the marijuana industry. Moreover, it would enact a sales tax of 15 percent and a cultivation tax of $9.25 per ounce for flowers and $2.75 per ounce for leaves, with exceptions for qualifying medical marijuana sales and cultivation. The initiative was also designed to prevent licenses for corporate or large-scale marijuana businesses for five years in order to deter the “unreasonable restraints on competition by creation or maintenance of unlawful monopoly power.” Other provisions relate to rights of employers, driving under the influence and marijuana business locations.[1]
Multiple, separate initiatives designed to legalize marijuana were filed in 2016. A full list of the initiatives filed and cleared for signature gathering can be found here.

Although many marijuana legalization initiatives were proposed and circulated, this initiative is a clear leader and the most likely to reach the ballot in November 2016. The initiative's proponents received financial backing in the amount of about $2.25 million, including $1 million from Napster founder and former Facebook president Sean Parker, and $500,000 from the Drug Policy Action, which is backed by billionaire George Soros. The "Adult Use of Marijuana Act" also received endorsements from the Marijuana Policy Project of California and the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML).

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I was referring to Section 11300: Personal Regulation and Controls

Notwithstanding any other provision of law, it is lawful and shall not be a public offense under California law for any person 21 years of age or older to:
Personally possess, process, share, or transport not more than one ounce of cannabis, solely for that individual's personal consumption, and not for sale.
Cultivate, on private property by the owner, lawful occupant, or other lawful resident or guest of the private property owner or lawful occupant, cannabis plants for personal consumption only, in an area of not more than twenty-five square feet per private residence or, in the absence of any residence, the parcel. Cultivation on leased or rented property may be subject to approval from the owner of the property. Provided that, nothing in this section shall permit unlawful or unlicensed cultivation of cannabis on any public lands.
Possess on the premises where grown the living and harvested plants and results of any harvest and processing of plants lawfully cultivated pursuant to section 11300(a)(ii), for personal consumption.
Possess objects, items, tools, equipment, products and materials associated with activities permitted under this subsection.
"Personal consumption" shall include but is not limited to possession and consumption in any form, of cannabis in a residence or other non-public place, and shall include licensed premises open to the public authorized to permit on-premises consumption of cannabis by a local government pursuant to section 11301.
"Personal consumption" shall not include, and nothing in this Act shall permit cannabis:
possession for sale regardless of amount, except by a person who is licensed or permitted to do so under the terms of an ordinance adopted pursuant to section 11301;
consumption in public or in a public place;
consumption by the operator of any vehicle, boat or aircraft while it is being operated, or that impairs the operator;
smoking cannabis in any space while minors are present.

the rest of the bill still seems to be tied to these specific amounts , and appears to have plenty of loopholes for local governments to suppress any sales or grows.

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so from my meager legal understanding, while I may be legally allowed to grow six plants- if I were to harvest, manicure and dry them, I would expect to get six to eight ounces per plant, and could end up with a couple of pounds of processed herb. While that single harvest would provide me with enough pot for the rest of the year, I would be way out of compliance, unable to sell or transfer any legally, and still subject to arrest and conviction for possession with intent to distribute.

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Yes, I`m sure that after 40 plus years of growing my own pot, sharing it with friends & hardly smoking it anymore for my own health reasons, I don`t need any kind of regulatory million dollar initiatives to keep living how I`ve been for decades.
To me it`s just another money making, for profit, regulatory office that loves to give us a way to have our freedoms for a little bit of cash.
Does anyone really think that if it remained illegal people would smoke less pot, or that for some regulating cash, people would smoke more.
Well we could always tax sales if it was legal, right. Who gives a crap. Taxes have been thrown at the war on drugs by the billions, & we remain in the same spot, minus all those incarcerated due to the war on drugs.
But now, if we legalize it & tax it not a damn thing will change.

Oh, think of the children. Hah, what a joke. Think of the children of ruined families due to alcohol, a multi-billion dollar industry, just like the for-profit prisons.
I better go back to bed & stop this ranting, & dream of my beautiful plants.

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Can't grow your own. Can only have an ounce. I don't call it legal, it's more like partly allowable. Put it this way, I still haven't been in a pot store and there's about 6-8 of them close by.

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Grow & store is what I say.
Howdy Big Al.
Store this

A constellation of buds.

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Good to see ya. Yes, no need for the pot store here, got my own private one in the back. Man that is one nice plant.

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Shahryar's picture

or at least a picture of what's on the billboard, here in Portland. It's really cooler in person when you can see buildings, trees, the sky....it's so odd because it's taken so long.

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for a change.

So far the only effects of pot on me have been successful treatment of my PTSD symptoms, and great creativity as far as my recipes go.

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

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Solidarity forever

Granny needs her medicine.

I already suffer from PTSD and if HRC is our next president, I'm going to need some pretty damn strong medicine.

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Yahoo

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"It`s none of my affairs what you do in your pants, but I am pleased you don`t vote republican anymore."
-Me

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nothing is certain as far as the the latter. Wink

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