I hope they make it easy for folks to vote. I know they reduced the number of polling places in PR from 1200 or so to 400...located probably in the wealthier districts. $hillary and Kissinger have homes there you know.
If the vote is fair I think Bernie stands a good chance.
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All the polls seem to be just predicting on race. But they forget that the VI people are African-Caribbean (about 66%) and that Hispanics (about 15%) are split between "White-Hispanics" and "Black-Hispanics". 15% are White American types. Oldsters are the biggest age group. The Republicans barely exist in the VI. There are the Democrats and the Independent Party. In the 2014 governor election the Independent Party won 64 to 36%.
The loser was Democrat USVI delegate to Congress Donna Christian-Christensen Congressional Black Caucus and the Congressional Progressive Caucus. Her main accomplishment seems to have been a 3 billion dollar giveway to Diageo (Distilled alcoholic drinks) to move their Captain Morgan Rum distillery from Puerto Rico to the USVI. The USVI is as, or more indebted than even Puerto Rico.
This month, Gov. Kenneth Mapp, the Independent, vetoed recent legislation to subsidize casino renovations with tax dollars and decried the Senate's override of his veto of legislation giving the Casino Control Commission explicit power to waive casino investment requirements. The veto, which essentially subsidizes casinos, was overridden by Democrats.
Ok, most of the English-speaking independent Caribbean is soft socialist in nature. With any campaign at all in Dominica, Clinton wouldn't get 2% of the vote running against Hugo Chavez. I have posted previously how the Clinton's destroyed the E-S Caribbean economy using the WTO. She would probably not get more than 2% in Haiti either.
5 of the 12 delegates are members of the USVI DNC. The Virgin Island Free Press has this to say, "Currently, no traditional presidential polls have been conducted in the Virgin Islands so it’s difficult to say whether voters favor frontrunner Hillary Clinton or challenger Sen. Bernie Sanders.So, I don't have a clue how this will end up. We do know that only 15 people showed up on St. Thomas for early voting, and that the caucus localities were practically empty this morning, so it might be nobody much cares. We will see at 6PM.
Added: :A Sanders superdelegate for Bernie switched to Clinton after a conference with what appears to be undisclosed promises.
Added: There is a post from the DNC facebook apologizing for giving out the wrong address for the caucus in St. Johns. The error was promulgated in the press by DNC Committtee Member Carol Burke.
I live in St Croix. It's important to note that most people here are VERY religious ans socially conservative, probably more adamantly so than much of the South. If Republicans didn't keep shooting themselves in the foot on racial issues, they'd have a lot of support in the USVI. I have heard people here say they don't want Sanders to win because he is Jewish, and there are a surprising amount of Trump supporters as well.
As far as issues go, what matters most, at least to St. Croix, is the economic depression, unemployment, and violent crimes of retaliation. St. Croix had a fuel processing plant (Hess/Hovensa) that employed the majority of the island at high salaries. Big houses, expensive cars, etc. They were forced to leave due to lawsuits over public health/cancer scares and I assume a loss of profitability. Now businesses are failing (my company, the largest AC installer on island, shrunk from $50,000 profit a month to barely $15,000) people can't afford their homes or expensive groceries, and the water and power company, WAPA, which is already expensive and prone to frequent blackouts, is petitioning to increase prices. Combine this with low education, teaching shortages, widespread computer illiteracy and rampant nepotism/corruption and you have an island that can't do much to help itself. They will jump at the first person to throw money at their problems.
Edit: If you think people in the Caribbean are ANYTHING like stateside, you're dead wrong. Most Crucians I know identify as being from their island and not as Americans. The culture is different, the demographics are different, (Black, but also Puerto Ricans and a sizeable and affluent Middle Eastern minority), religion and philosophy is different. If you live here as I do, rather than visiting, you learn to respect and appreciate the difference. The islands of the Caribbean are like the Middle East in that their different Political affiliations are viewed as essentially arbitrary; culturally, a Trinidadian will feel just as at home in St. Croix as back home, with very few cultural differences. Like going from Florida to Georgia.
This is a total outrage, and in the background (elsewhere on the web) is the same old switching of registrations fro Dem. to Ind.
700.000 voter turnout expected with 432 polling places and 7 hours to vote in two separate primaries with 2 different polling locations on a Sunday when there is no public transport. SHAME!!!!
Note: St. John is rural and has only a couple hundred votes.
Note: St. John is rural and has only a couple hundred votes.
Savanah Loftus. Whatever the final count might be tonight territory wide...Bernie Sanders won ST JOHN overwhelmingly by 20%. Thank you so much to all of you beautiful St Johnians..
10 PM. ABC says Democratic Party says Clinton wins US Virgin Islands. Nobody at the Democratic Party Facebook has any sort of vote totals, St. Thomas poll watcher not reporting a count, and no count at Huffington. Twitter are still complaining about the lack of results.
10:20 PM. Unconfirmed results from St. Croix (on twitter) saying Clinton 93% vs, Bernie 7%.
Its getting late and I am bored waiting for the final numbers. If the twitter storm is true and Clinton wins by 86/14% I will be, as a Dominican resident, very sad. I did notice some things following it most of the day. On the Democratic Party Facebook, and on twitter there was absolutely zero commentary from local USVI people. I did an experiment posting some highly offensive Kreyol slang which if anyone understood would have gotten me blocked. No takers for a go at dozens.
The USVI related commentary is all Clinton cut and paste talking points: Sanders is a racist, a misogynist, a liar, can't win, do the math... and the typical daily cut and paste insults. One was even cut and paste from TOP. We need to collect these cut and paste comments for a game of bingo, All they do is enrage people like me to the point I think its paid Trumpets who post such shit. I didn't see an issue one being discussed even when he rare Sanders posters tried to bring them up.
Benchmark is saying, "Clinton wins 86.5 % (1308 votes) to Sanders 12.3% (186 votes) - Clinton gets all 7 delegates - Sanders non-viable in the Virgin Islands." That is about Alabama in numbers.
My thoughts on why such a disappointment:
Here in Dominica, most people get their USA news from CNN and Fox, not from the Internet. CNN, at least has ignored Sanders and declared Clinton the winner long ago. We do have Internet and I well know what is being talked about on smart phones, its not news or politics.
A second factor I would look at, is the influence of religion and the essentially fundamentalist James Dobsonian ideology of the Church.
One St. Croix based commentator on Reddit noted that anti-semitism might be a factor. I see that here in Dominica.... blaming everything economic on Jewish bankers and the Rotschild Illuminati is a pretty common conspiracy theory.
I have never been to the USVI, and am trying to contact friends there through FB to see their take. Tomorrow, for the PR Primary I will try and consolidate my commentary here and form an essay.
Its getting late and I am bored waiting for the final numbers. If the twitter storm is true and Clinton wins by 86/14% I will be, as a Dominican resident, very sad. I did notice some things following it most of the day. On the Democratic Party Facebook, and on twitter there was absolutely zero commentary from local USVI people. I did an experiment posting some highly offensive Kreyol slang which if anyone understood would have gotten me blocked. No takers for a go at dozens.
The USVI related commentary is all Clinton cut and paste talking points: Sanders is a racist, a misogynist, a liar, can't win, do the math... and the typical daily cut and paste insults. One was even cut and paste from TOP. We need to collect these cut and paste comments for a game of bingo, All they do is enrage people like me to the point I think its paid Trumpets who post such shit. I didn't see an issue one being discussed even when he rare Sanders posters tried to bring them up.
Benchmark is saying, "Clinton wins 86.5 % (1308 votes) to Sanders 12.3% (186 votes) - Clinton gets all 7 delegates - Sanders non-viable in the Virgin Islands." That is about Alabama in numbers.
My thoughts on why such a disappointment:
Here in Dominica, most people get their USA news from CNN and Fox, not from the Internet. CNN, at least has ignored Sanders and declared Clinton the winner long ago. We do have Internet and I well know what is being talked about on smart phones, its not news or politics.
A second factor I would look at, is the influence of religion and the essentially fundamentalist James Dobsonian ideology of the Church.
One St. Croix based commentator on Reddit noted that anti-semitism might be a factor. I see that here in Dominica.... blaming everything economic on Jewish bankers and the Rotschild Illuminati is a pretty common conspiracy theory.
I have never been to the USVI, and am trying to contact friends there through FB to see their take. Tomorrow, for the PR Primary I will try and consolidate my commentary here and form an essay.
Its getting late and I am bored waiting for the final numbers. If the twitter storm is true and Clinton wins by 86/14% I will be, as a Dominican resident, very sad. I did notice some things following it most of the day. On the Democratic Party Facebook, and on twitter there was absolutely zero commentary from local USVI people. I did an experiment posting some highly offensive Kreyol slang which if anyone understood would have gotten me blocked. No takers for a go at dozens.
The USVI related commentary is all Clinton cut and paste talking points: Sanders is a racist, a misogynist, a liar, can't win, do the math... and the typical daily cut and paste insults. One was even cut and paste from TOP. We need to collect these cut and paste comments for a game of bingo, All they do is enrage people like me to the point I think its paid Trumpets who post such shit. I didn't see an issue one being discussed even when he rare Sanders posters tried to bring them up.
Greenpapers results are saying, "Clinton wins 86.5 % (1308 votes) to Sanders 12.3% (186 votes) - Clinton gets all 6 delegates - Sanders 1 delegate. That is about Alabaman in numbers.
My thoughts on why such a disappointment:
Here in Dominica, most people get their USA news from CNN and Fox, not from the Internet. CNN, at least has ignored Sanders and declared Clinton the winner long ago. We do have Internet and I well know what is being talked about on smart phones, its not news or politics.
A second factor I would look at, is the influence of religion and the essentially fundamentalist James Dobsonian ideology of the Church.
One St. Croix based commentator on Reddit noted that anti-semitism might be a factor. I see that here in Dominica.... blaming everything economic on Jewish bankers and the Rotschild Illuminati is a pretty common conspiracy theory.
I have never been to the USVI, and am trying to contact friends there through FB to see their take. Tomorrow, for the PR Primary I will try and consolidate my commentary here and form an essay.
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I hope they make it easy for folks to vote. I know they reduced the number of polling places in PR from 1200 or so to 400...located probably in the wealthier districts. $hillary and Kissinger have homes there you know.
If the vote is fair I think Bernie stands a good chance.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Hopefully
the beginning four days that will decimate Clinton's political capital even further.
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A short analysis of the USVI caucuses
https://twitter.com/hashtag/vicaucus?f=tweets&vertical=news&src=hash&lan...
https://twitter.com/hashtag/virginislandscaucus?f=tweets&vertical=defaul...
All the polls seem to be just predicting on race. But they forget that the VI people are African-Caribbean (about 66%) and that Hispanics (about 15%) are split between "White-Hispanics" and "Black-Hispanics". 15% are White American types. Oldsters are the biggest age group. The Republicans barely exist in the VI. There are the Democrats and the Independent Party. In the 2014 governor election the Independent Party won 64 to 36%.
The loser was Democrat USVI delegate to Congress Donna Christian-Christensen Congressional Black Caucus and the Congressional Progressive Caucus. Her main accomplishment seems to have been a 3 billion dollar giveway to Diageo (Distilled alcoholic drinks) to move their Captain Morgan Rum distillery from Puerto Rico to the USVI. The USVI is as, or more indebted than even Puerto Rico.
This month, Gov. Kenneth Mapp, the Independent, vetoed recent legislation to subsidize casino renovations with tax dollars and decried the Senate's override of his veto of legislation giving the Casino Control Commission explicit power to waive casino investment requirements. The veto, which essentially subsidizes casinos, was overridden by Democrats.
Ok, most of the English-speaking independent Caribbean is soft socialist in nature. With any campaign at all in Dominica, Clinton wouldn't get 2% of the vote running against Hugo Chavez. I have posted previously how the Clinton's destroyed the E-S Caribbean economy using the WTO. She would probably not get more than 2% in Haiti either.
5 of the 12 delegates are members of the USVI DNC. The Virgin Island Free Press has this to say, "Currently, no traditional presidential polls have been conducted in the Virgin Islands so it’s difficult to say whether voters favor frontrunner Hillary Clinton or challenger Sen. Bernie Sanders.So, I don't have a clue how this will end up. We do know that only 15 people showed up on St. Thomas for early voting, and that the caucus localities were practically empty this morning, so it might be nobody much cares. We will see at 6PM.
Added: :A Sanders superdelegate for Bernie switched to Clinton after a conference with what appears to be undisclosed promises.
Added: There is a post from the DNC facebook apologizing for giving out the wrong address for the caucus in St. Johns. The error was promulgated in the press by DNC Committtee Member Carol Burke.
From the Light House.
An analysis from Reddit as we wait for the counting of votes
11bulletcatcher [score hidden] 4 hours ago*
I live in St Croix. It's important to note that most people here are VERY religious ans socially conservative, probably more adamantly so than much of the South. If Republicans didn't keep shooting themselves in the foot on racial issues, they'd have a lot of support in the USVI. I have heard people here say they don't want Sanders to win because he is Jewish, and there are a surprising amount of Trump supporters as well.
As far as issues go, what matters most, at least to St. Croix, is the economic depression, unemployment, and violent crimes of retaliation. St. Croix had a fuel processing plant (Hess/Hovensa) that employed the majority of the island at high salaries. Big houses, expensive cars, etc. They were forced to leave due to lawsuits over public health/cancer scares and I assume a loss of profitability. Now businesses are failing (my company, the largest AC installer on island, shrunk from $50,000 profit a month to barely $15,000) people can't afford their homes or expensive groceries, and the water and power company, WAPA, which is already expensive and prone to frequent blackouts, is petitioning to increase prices. Combine this with low education, teaching shortages, widespread computer illiteracy and rampant nepotism/corruption and you have an island that can't do much to help itself. They will jump at the first person to throw money at their problems.
Edit: If you think people in the Caribbean are ANYTHING like stateside, you're dead wrong. Most Crucians I know identify as being from their island and not as Americans. The culture is different, the demographics are different, (Black, but also Puerto Ricans and a sizeable and affluent Middle Eastern minority), religion and philosophy is different. If you live here as I do, rather than visiting, you learn to respect and appreciate the difference. The islands of the Caribbean are like the Middle East in that their different Political affiliations are viewed as essentially arbitrary; culturally, a Trinidadian will feel just as at home in St. Croix as back home, with very few cultural differences. Like going from Florida to Georgia.
From the Light House.
...and, the person who slashed the no. of voting sites in Puerto
Rico is (drum roll): a Clinton superdelegate! Now let's all act shocked.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Kossacks_for_Sanders/comments/4mkput/person_who...
Edited to add: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkIsXYtWEAAByDx.jpg
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti
Democrats turn Puerto Rico into an occupied banana republic
This is a total outrage, and in the background (elsewhere on the web) is the same old switching of registrations fro Dem. to Ind.
700.000 voter turnout expected with 432 polling places and 7 hours to vote in two separate primaries with 2 different polling locations on a Sunday when there is no public transport. SHAME!!!!
Note: St. John is rural and has only a couple hundred votes.
From the Light House.
USVI. Bernie with + 24% unofficial early lead in St. John
U.S. Democratic Party Facebook Reporting:
Note: St. John is rural and has only a couple hundred votes.
Savanah Loftus. Whatever the final count might be tonight territory wide...Bernie Sanders won ST JOHN overwhelmingly by 20%. Thank you so much to all of you beautiful St Johnians..
58% Bernie
34% Hillary
(Unconfirmed count)
From the Light House.
10 PM ABC says Democratic
10 PM. ABC says Democratic Party says Clinton wins US Virgin Islands. Nobody at the Democratic Party Facebook has any sort of vote totals, St. Thomas poll watcher not reporting a count, and no count at Huffington. Twitter are still complaining about the lack of results.
10:20 PM. Unconfirmed results from St. Croix (on twitter) saying Clinton 93% vs, Bernie 7%.
From the Light House.
Thanks for those figures. (I'm surprised, but
then again, I don't know the island's politics.)
Mollie
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Hi Mollie,
It looks like the afro-caribbeans vote similarly to a big part of the aa community.
Apparently so, Janis. Hey, nice to see you again! You Guys--
at Steve's photo essays--are really keeping this place hopin' with some drop dead gorgeous photography.
Thank you! And keep it coming, please.
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Thanks Mollie
You're wonderful, and thank you for your appreciation of photography.
Thanks, Alex! Been searching for the results--found zilch! I
believe there are 12 delegates at stake. Wonder how they were divied up.
Does anyone know?
Mollie
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USVI Big Clinton Alabama Style Landslide.
Its getting late and I am bored waiting for the final numbers. If the twitter storm is true and Clinton wins by 86/14% I will be, as a Dominican resident, very sad. I did notice some things following it most of the day. On the Democratic Party Facebook, and on twitter there was absolutely zero commentary from local USVI people. I did an experiment posting some highly offensive Kreyol slang which if anyone understood would have gotten me blocked. No takers for a go at dozens.
The USVI related commentary is all Clinton cut and paste talking points: Sanders is a racist, a misogynist, a liar, can't win, do the math... and the typical daily cut and paste insults. One was even cut and paste from TOP. We need to collect these cut and paste comments for a game of bingo, All they do is enrage people like me to the point I think its paid Trumpets who post such shit. I didn't see an issue one being discussed even when he rare Sanders posters tried to bring them up.
Benchmark is saying, "Clinton wins 86.5 % (1308 votes) to Sanders 12.3% (186 votes) - Clinton gets all 7 delegates - Sanders non-viable in the Virgin Islands." That is about Alabama in numbers.
My thoughts on why such a disappointment:
Here in Dominica, most people get their USA news from CNN and Fox, not from the Internet. CNN, at least has ignored Sanders and declared Clinton the winner long ago. We do have Internet and I well know what is being talked about on smart phones, its not news or politics.
A second factor I would look at, is the influence of religion and the essentially fundamentalist James Dobsonian ideology of the Church.
One St. Croix based commentator on Reddit noted that anti-semitism might be a factor. I see that here in Dominica.... blaming everything economic on Jewish bankers and the Rotschild Illuminati is a pretty common conspiracy theory.
I have never been to the USVI, and am trying to contact friends there through FB to see their take. Tomorrow, for the PR Primary I will try and consolidate my commentary here and form an essay.
From the Light House.
USVI Big Clinton Alabama Style Landslide.
Its getting late and I am bored waiting for the final numbers. If the twitter storm is true and Clinton wins by 86/14% I will be, as a Dominican resident, very sad. I did notice some things following it most of the day. On the Democratic Party Facebook, and on twitter there was absolutely zero commentary from local USVI people. I did an experiment posting some highly offensive Kreyol slang which if anyone understood would have gotten me blocked. No takers for a go at dozens.
The USVI related commentary is all Clinton cut and paste talking points: Sanders is a racist, a misogynist, a liar, can't win, do the math... and the typical daily cut and paste insults. One was even cut and paste from TOP. We need to collect these cut and paste comments for a game of bingo, All they do is enrage people like me to the point I think its paid Trumpets who post such shit. I didn't see an issue one being discussed even when he rare Sanders posters tried to bring them up.
Benchmark is saying, "Clinton wins 86.5 % (1308 votes) to Sanders 12.3% (186 votes) - Clinton gets all 7 delegates - Sanders non-viable in the Virgin Islands." That is about Alabama in numbers.
My thoughts on why such a disappointment:
Here in Dominica, most people get their USA news from CNN and Fox, not from the Internet. CNN, at least has ignored Sanders and declared Clinton the winner long ago. We do have Internet and I well know what is being talked about on smart phones, its not news or politics.
A second factor I would look at, is the influence of religion and the essentially fundamentalist James Dobsonian ideology of the Church.
One St. Croix based commentator on Reddit noted that anti-semitism might be a factor. I see that here in Dominica.... blaming everything economic on Jewish bankers and the Rotschild Illuminati is a pretty common conspiracy theory.
I have never been to the USVI, and am trying to contact friends there through FB to see their take. Tomorrow, for the PR Primary I will try and consolidate my commentary here and form an essay.
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/VI-D
From the Light House.
USVI Big Clinton Alabama Style Landslide.
Its getting late and I am bored waiting for the final numbers. If the twitter storm is true and Clinton wins by 86/14% I will be, as a Dominican resident, very sad. I did notice some things following it most of the day. On the Democratic Party Facebook, and on twitter there was absolutely zero commentary from local USVI people. I did an experiment posting some highly offensive Kreyol slang which if anyone understood would have gotten me blocked. No takers for a go at dozens.
The USVI related commentary is all Clinton cut and paste talking points: Sanders is a racist, a misogynist, a liar, can't win, do the math... and the typical daily cut and paste insults. One was even cut and paste from TOP. We need to collect these cut and paste comments for a game of bingo, All they do is enrage people like me to the point I think its paid Trumpets who post such shit. I didn't see an issue one being discussed even when he rare Sanders posters tried to bring them up.
Greenpapers results are saying, "Clinton wins 86.5 % (1308 votes) to Sanders 12.3% (186 votes) - Clinton gets all 6 delegates - Sanders 1 delegate. That is about Alabaman in numbers.
My thoughts on why such a disappointment:
Here in Dominica, most people get their USA news from CNN and Fox, not from the Internet. CNN, at least has ignored Sanders and declared Clinton the winner long ago. We do have Internet and I well know what is being talked about on smart phones, its not news or politics.
A second factor I would look at, is the influence of religion and the essentially fundamentalist James Dobsonian ideology of the Church.
One St. Croix based commentator on Reddit noted that anti-semitism might be a factor. I see that here in Dominica.... blaming everything economic on Jewish bankers and the Rotschild Illuminati is a pretty common conspiracy theory.
I have never been to the USVI, and am trying to contact friends there through FB to see their take. Tomorrow, for the PR Primary I will try and consolidate my commentary here and form an essay.
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/VI-D
From the Light House.
Thanks, Alex. Will look for your future posts. EOM
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