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In the beginning, this is what would happen. You would have the Democratic candidate running for something, and the Republican candidate, and historically Vermont has been a Republican state - moderately Republican, not right-wing - and the Democrats, and then we had a third party.

And what would happen is, debate after debate, television program after television program, the progressive, third party people, would in fact get the best response from the audience. And people would say, "Yeah, you guys make a lot of sense." And then you go up to them and say, "Are you going to vote for us?" And then they say, "Oh, of course we're not going to vote for you. You can't win! We're going to vote for the Democrat. You're a much better candidate - everything you're saying is true. But we can't waste our vote." "Waste our vote" was the expression. So if there's any term that drives me crazy, it's this quote unquote waste our vote.