Where is your Humanity? - #ForceTheVote

This is a video with Jimmy Dore and his guest, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez! This video is from June 17th, 2017, when she was running to get elected, and if I'm not mistaken (could be), the first time she was on Jimmy's show.

[video:https://youtu.be/Bl5mpr7hUwc]

Interesting contrast with where we are today, don't you think?

Over 300,000 of our fellow Americans are dead. Tens of thousands who have "recovered", are going to have medical bills in the tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, and some medical bills will be over a million.

Consider those of us without "health insurance".
From HealthcareFinanceNews.com:

Hospitalization charges for patients under 20-years-old without insurance averaged about $68,261. For people over 60-years-old, that figure was about $77,323.

Tens of millions have been thrown out of work, through no fault of their own, but the hospitals have the "right" to demand 100% payment within 30 days. And if you haven't established a "payment plan they accept" within 90 days, your credit will be ruined for the next 7 years. I call it financial purgatory.
From HealthcareDive.com:

Nearly 27 million people in the U.S. may have lost employer-sponsored insurance due to rampant job losses brought on by the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new analysis from the Kaiser Family Foundation.

How are you going to pay for it? No job, no health insurance, no credit?

Jimmy Dore, like myself, has had a bad time with our healthcare system. If you happened to watch the live stream show last night with Arron Mate', Ben Norton, Max Blumenthal and Katie Halper, he spoke a little bit about it. He went years undiagnosed, and misdiagnosed, but it "cost" him quite a bit.

[video:https://youtu.be/yBfEWdh_0Ec]

We are about the only country on this planet that is not providing a real safety net for "the people". Where is the "humanity" in that way of thinking? Every other industrialized nation is providing at least 50% or more of a person's weekly income, WHILE they are NOT working!

But heaven forbid, Jimmy criticizes one of our elected "representatives" for not doing what she campaigned on and everyone's head explodes, and thinks he's some kind of "evil, insidious, Putin puppet".

I mean, people are resorting to stealing food and other "necessities" to feed and take care of their families because ya know, "saving the economy" strategy has really worked so well.
From the Bezos CIAMachine (Washington Post):

The coronavirus recession has been a relentless churn of high unemployment and economic uncertainty. The government stimulus that kept millions of Americans from falling into poverty earlier in the pandemic is long gone, and new aid is still a dot on the horizon after months of congressional inaction. Hunger is chronic, at levels not seen in decades.

(bold empahsis mine)

Gee, Bernie Sanders posted a video on his youtube channel yesterday, arguing for a $1,200 stimulus check, and I made the following comment.

To “save the economy”, one must first save “society”, not the other way around.

Here's the video:
[video:https://youtu.be/P5Zv2P7kIzY]

Another yt user replied to my comment.

So we should all be coddled like children and taught how to act? This is the real world. We need a strong economy and working class americans with love for one another. This is the lefts problem. Please save us big daddy government.

First, notice the conflation. “So we should all be coddled like children and taught how to act?” I just don't know how someone could go from what I said, to this kind of conflation. It makes no sense, at all.

Who the fuck said anything about “coddling” anyone? Who the fuck said anything about teaching people how to act? We can't have a “strong economy” if you throw everyone out of work and kill off society! Who is going to spend any money, when they don't have any to spend? People are stealing food to feed their families, because they DON"T HAVE ANY MONEY!

They don't have a job, they don't have a safety net, they have no means of buying anything to participate in the “economy”, much less they have no means to make the economy “strong”. Not to mention, tens of millions are facing eviction.

From USAToday:

An estimated 12.4 million adult renters say they are behind on payments, according to the latest U.S. Census Bureau survey. And nearly 83 million adults report they are finding it somewhat difficult or very difficult to cover their household expenses such as food, rent or mortgages and car payments.

All told, an estimated 30 to 40 million Americans could be at risk of residential eviction in January because they are unable to pay their rent, according to an analysis by the Aspen Institute, a nonpartisan policy think tank. America is failing the backbone of this nation: its people.

The “Economy”, is not society. Let's just start with that.

Society, can exist without an economy, but an economy can not exist without society. If one wants to “save the economy”, then one must first save society. It is society that CREATES the economy, not the other way around.

Am I missing something? Am I crazy to think, that if people had a real safety net, they would be "spending" that money into the economy? Ya know, paying their rent, paying their bills, ya know, buying food instead of stealing it?

Why is pushing for a vote on Medicare For All a bad thing? How many more Americans must die, or face financial ruin for 7 years, because, well, everyone wants to go back to "normal" BEFORE this health CRISIS is over, and gee, well we don't have jobs, we don't have healthcare, we have a vaccine, that well, the ruling is not in on how good it will be, and gee, no one has any money, except the already wealthy, who, well are not spending enough to "trickle down" so our boats will rise too, as their wealth has exploded.
From BusinessInsider.com:

When you add up the numbers, billionaires in the United States have increased their total net worth $637 billion during the COVID-19 pandemic so far.

Gee, how many "committee assignments" must we get, to be able to get at least a floor vote on Medicare For All? Alexandria Ocasio Cortez just lost a committee assignment to a "blue dog democrat", who did exactly what Jimmy has advocated, threatened to not vote for Pelosi for Speaker of the House! Gee, go fucking figure!

[video:https://youtu.be/0vT73zSBrM8]

It's time for Americans to really see who in congress, truly has humanity in their heart, and who is bought and paid for by business. Lets find out who truly represents "the people". Why is finding this out a bad thing?

Then we know EXACTLY where to direct our disdain and polemic ire, and whose coffee table we need to kick the fuck over!

Homelessness, financial ruin, starvation and death, threaten tens of millions of our fellow Americans. One need only ask one question, where the FUCK, is your humanity?

Saving the economy will not save society. This is not fucking rocket science.

If we don't push back, we get pushed over. It's just that simple.

#PushBackJimmy #ForceTheVote

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@RantingRooster @RantingRooster @RantingRooster Best interview Jimmy has done yet! My only suggestion to him would be to stop dropping the F--- bomb. Lots of folks I know are in sympathy with his arguments and his reasoning, such as my wife, but they will not give the speaker of that kind of language a second listen. Serious political error to continue with the over use of expletives ... in my humble opinion. He could still be funny AND EFFECTIVE without doing it to the degree that he does. It seems as if he did what I'm suggesting, out of respect for Dr. West, in this edition of his show. Good on him.

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Few are guilty, but all are responsible.”
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@phillybluesfan At what point does throwing a bunch of academic prose at a topic as grave as this pandemic's impact on the US population, reach deep into the readers / viewers mind to spark outrage over the shear lack of humanity displayed by our government and "business leaders"?

What do you suggest?

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@phillybluesfan .Good question. This collection of essays looks for some answers

An Excerpt on Unity:

"Paradoxically, the science and technology that allow us to view our planet from space, to recognize the interdependence of life on Earth, and to comprehend the universe as a unified dance of energy, have also enabled us to enclose ourselves in a world of our own construction. The realm of artifacts, for all its ingenuity and convenience, becomes pathological if that is the only world we know. While enabling us to withdraw from the living Earth, technology also enables us to wreak damage on an unprecedented scale. The more powerful the technology, the greater the potential for harm. The runoff from industrial agriculture creating dead zones where rivers empty into the ocean, the dropping of bombs from drones in the Middle East, the clear-cutting of equatorial forests, the scouring of the ocean floor by industrial trawlers, the introduction of genetically modified organisms into the environment — all result from decisions made in boardrooms and office towers far away from the scenes of destruction, beyond sight of anything not made by humans, except perhaps the sun or sky blurred by smog.

"If all we know of Earth is what comes to us through earbuds and screens, or through windows and books, we may grasp the unity of life as a concept, but we are unlikely to feel kinship with other animals and plants, let alone with mountains and rivers and stones. The feeling of kinship is the source of kindness; we treat with respect and care those people, creatures, and places we regard as kin. By contrast, whatever we regard as alien, unrelated to ourselves, we treat at best with indifference and at worst with cruelty. Unlike most of his contemporaries, [Quaker preacher and abolitionist] John Woolman recognized his kinship with slaves, Indians, and coach horses, and therefore sought to alleviate their suffering. [Naturalist] John Muir recognized his kinship with redwoods and alpine flowers and ice-sculpted valleys, and sought to protect them. "The ideal of universal benevolence arises from a sense of universal kinship. The impulse to care for all of our fellow beings and to protect the land is an evolutionary inheritance as fundamental, if not yet as powerful, as our selfishness and tribalism.

"Science has confirmed that the unity of life proclaimed by the world's spiritual traditions is a fact of nature. Art can help us to perceive this unity — this holiness — and to feel it as a fact of the heart. But to know it in our depths, with the certainty of Pascal envisioning fire or Woolman sensing the motions of love, we need to open ourselves to wildness, the shaping energy that permeates all being. We need to seek the soul's true home, either inwardly, through contemplation, or outwardly, in the woods and fields, on the blue waters, under the stars."

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@phillybluesfan OMG, you really know how to trip my circuit breakers...

Science has confirmed that the unity of life proclaimed by the world's spiritual traditions is a fact of nature. Art can help us to perceive this unity — this holiness — and to feel it as a fact of the heart.

Obviously I'm an uneducated moron and missing something because I have no clue how to get from this esoteric, academic bullshit, to healthcare for all of us during the worst pandemic in a century?

How many more will have to die, or be subjugated to systemic poverty because we must make a profit off human sickness and suffering, before we get all warm and fuzzy "to feel it as a fact of the heart", and sing kumbaya together?

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@RantingRooster ,
but you're certainly closed minded to the fact that we are all one. If our congresscritters would only understand that they are but a pimple on the ass of the earth, they might give us M4A. Since they are incapable of understanding this simple fact, it is up to the rest of us to bring them up to speed. Sometimes that means we must bring our fellow human up to speed, too, because humans are normally pretty full of themselves and don't like to think of themselves as connected to the universe. We are but containers, expressing a lived experience for that which is the source.

I know this is difficult to understand, in America, but if only everyone could get on board - it might result in M4A for Americans. Spread the word! Pleasantry

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

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@Raggedy Ann

oneness in the context of the current situation, in which our government, at the behest of a small and extremely wealthy part of the population, is killing the rest of us, and impoverishing those it can't outright kill.

I don't think my assessment of the situation is particularly hyperbolic.

That's not to say that us all being one is not true. Yes, we are. However, that doesn't mean everybody has to accept that, or behave like it (as you know), and I doubt very much whether coming with that sort of philosophy to the people who rule us and their servants (the government) is going to do anything except give them another joke to crack the next time they get together over a drink.

I sincerely hope I'm not coming off as officious, or like I think you don't already know this stuff. I don't mean to.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal ,
but we have to start somewhere. We must come to unity consciousness and we will - it will just take a couple of years, but people have to start thinking about it now. I"m not saying it will be easy, but it will be. A consciousness that will bring us together is in the offing. It's time to spread the word and live in unity. Pleasantry

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

@Raggedy Ann

That’s a pretty high bar to take as a first step.

I would venture to guess that most will never reach such an exalted plateau in their lifetimes, and I’m not sure I would even recognize it if I bumped into it. I can understand and relate to RR’s frustration and impatience.

But perhaps I just don’t understand what you are suggesting at all.

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Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men for the nastiest of motives will somehow work for the benefit of all."
- John Maynard Keynes

@phillybluesfan

Was not familiar with Woolman but will check him out further.

Not that it addresses in the short term the pressing issues of healthcare - and more generally of *health*, but I'll offer this anyway.

Happens to be the first thing I ever posted online, back when in wasn't (for ordinary mortals) even the Internet, but Use Net. Just like to cast it into the ether once a decade or so...

Taoist (gimme that old-time non-religion!) wisdom as quoted in Bertrand Russell's "The Proposed Roads to Freedom" - written in 1918 just prior to Russell's imprisonment for opposition to WWI, published in 1920. From the section on anarchism:

Chuang Tzu, a Chinese philosopher,
who lived about the year 300 B. C.:--

Horses have hoofs to carry them over frost and snow;
hair, to protect them from wind and cold. They eat grass
and drink water, and fling up their heels over the champaign.
Such is the real nature of horses. Palatial
dwellings are of no use to them.

One day Po Lo appeared, saying: ``I understand the
management of horses.''

So he branded them, and clipped them, and pared
their hoofs, and put halters on them, tying them up by
the head and shackling them by the feet, and disposing
them in stables, with the result that two or three in
every ten died. Then he kept them hungry and thirsty,
trotting them and galloping them, and grooming, and
trimming, with the misery of the tasselled bridle before
and the fear of the knotted whip behind, until more than
half of them were dead.

The potter says: ``I can do what I will with Clay.
If I want it round, I use compasses; if rectangular, a
square.''

The carpenter says: ``I can do what I will with
wood. If I want it curved, I use an arc; if straight, a
line.''

But on what grounds can we think that the natures
of clay and wood desire this application of compasses and
square, of arc and line? Nevertheless, every age extols
Po Lo for his skill in managing horses, and potters and
carpenters for their skill with clay and wood. Those
who govern the empire make the same mistake.

Now I regard government of the empire from quite
a different point of view.

The people have certain natural instincts:--to weave
and clothe themselves, to till and feed themselves. These
are common to all humanity, and all are agreed thereon.
Such instincts are called ``Heaven-sent.''

And so in the days when natural instincts prevailed,
men moved quietly and gazed steadily. At that time
there were no roads over mountains, nor boats, nor
bridges over water. All things were produced, each for
its own proper sphere. Birds and beasts multiplied,
trees and shrubs grew up. The former might be led by
the hand; you could climb up and peep into the raven's
nest. For then man dwelt with birds and beasts, and
all creation was one. There were no distinctions of good
and bad men. Being all equally without knowledge,
their virtue could not go astray. Being all equally
without evil desires, they were in a state of natural
integrity, the perfection of human existence.

But when Sages appeared, tripping up people over
charity and fettering them with duty to their neighbor,
doubt found its way into the world. And then, with
their gushing over music and fussing over ceremony, the
empire became divided against itself.[11]

FWIW

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@phillybluesfan

I want to preface my remarks with a metaphor that I drew from a visit to the Amazon jungle 14 years ago.

The most amazing experience for me was to stand beneath the jungle canopy towering 120 feet overhead. It truly had the feeling and simplicity of a gothic cathedral. The trees were like pillars, often anchored by buttress-like roots. They grew in a mere six inches of soil. You couldn't help but wonder what sustained them, and then you looked at the ground and saw the interplay of mosses, ferns, mushrooms, insects and animals, and you began to understand the beauty and complexity and interdependence of life.

We are, all of us, like those trees. Even they depend on the kindness of strangers, and so it is for us.

No matter how high we may sometimes soar, no matter how invincible we may sometimes feel, we are all fed and nurtured and sustained by complex webs of connection. We all truly are in this together.

That, of course, is the essential but too often forgotten wisdom that lies at the heart of all the world's great religions-that we should love others as we love ourselves. And it is the wisdom at the heart of all true charity and philanthropy.

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-- Fiver

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-- Fiver

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So we should all be coddled like children and taught how to act? This is the real world. We need a strong economy and working class americans with love for one another. This is the lefts problem. Please save us big daddy government.

First, notice the conflation. “So we should all be coddled like children and taught how to act?” I just don't know how someone could go from what I said, to this kind of conflation. It makes no sense, at all.

This is just more typical right-wing Calvinist garbage. "If they were worthy of life, they'd be prosperous. Those needing help are superfluous, and Gawwd-damned anyway. Fuck 'em." Bad

All your YouTube (YT) commenter's slime proves is a contention I've maintained for years: John Calvin should have been aborted. (And the majority of modern Christians, especially fans of Michael Servetus, tend to agree.)

n.b.: Most YT comments, especially about non-music videos, are garbage. I only know of one site today where the comments are worthy of participation..... Wink

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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@thanatokephaloides

He can take that bastard Jonathan Edwards with him.

*Not* the sweet guy who wrote "Sunshine Go Away Today." The asshole from colonial times. Bastard who has his portrait up in the Yale Theological School.

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

He can take that bastard Jonathan Edwards with him.

*Not* the sweet guy who wrote "Sunshine Go Away Today." The asshole from colonial times. Bastard who has his portrait up in the Yale Theological School.

I still want to know what North America and/or its pre-Christian inhabitants ever did to deserve the Puritan infestation of which "asshole from colonial times" Jonathan Edwards typifies. Bad

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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@thanatokephaloides

the non-Puritan European colonists deserved the Puritan infestation. There were some, even at Plymouth. Poor sods.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@thanatokephaloides

What the hell were people supposed to do in response to the corruption of the Catholic church (and the CoE)?

Just keep on supporting the corrupt clergy that supposedly interposed between them and God?
That wouldn't allow people read even the church's own edited and redacted version of the Bible in their own language?
That had established it's primacy by stamping out the opposition (Gnostics, etc.) and sucking up to Imperial Rome?
And maintained it by labelling its critics as heretics and offing them in highly unpleasant ways (Cathars, Hussites, etc.)?

I'm damn glad people *did* rebel.

Sure, your early Puritan leaders were not exactly the sort of people you might want to hang out and have a beer with, but the accomplishments of the Puritan migration to America are impressive, nonetheless. As are those, in their own flawed ways, the other three early waves of British migration - of the "Cavaliers" to Virginia and the Carolinas, the Quakers and the Scots-Irish.

Recommended Reading:

"Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in America is a 1989 book by David Hackett Fischer that details the folkways of four groups of people who moved from distinct regions of Great Britain to the United States. The argument is that the culture of each of the groups persisted, to provide the basis for the modern United States."

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@Blue Republic

has at least a few sociopathic bastards in it. The kindest hypothesis I could make about John Calvin is that he was crazy. And John Edwards was just a bastard. There's no way anybody not a bastard could come up with "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God"--and that's not b/c he believes in sin, or believes that God is angry with sinners, or believes that God will punish sinners. I have a problem with Edwards' attitude about all those things. But the worst problem I have with him is this:

The God that holds you over the Pit of Hell, much as one holds a Spider, or some loathsome Insect, over the Fire, abhors you, and is dreadfully provoked; his Wrath towards you burns like Fire; he looks upon you as worthy of nothing else, but to be cast into the Fire; he is of purer Eyes than to bear to have you in his Sight; you are ten thousand Times so abominable in his Eyes as the most hateful venomous Serpent is in ours.

My first question is: who does that?

Do any of you dangle spiders or other insects over a flame because you find them loathsome? And keep them out of the flame a little while just because you feel like it, knowing that you've already decided to burn them alive?

Edwards' description here doesn't sound like someone who's frightened or revolted by a snake, an insect, or some other form of "vermin;" nobody bothered by "vermin" would sit around dangling that vermin over a flame. The whole point is that you want to get away from the vermin--or get them away from you. You're not going to hang out with the vermin in your hand, contemplating how you're going to burn it alive presently. It's not like Edwards said God was going to shriek and go get a handy slipper and bludgeon the offending soul to death while yelling "Eew! Eew! Get it off me!"

So who dangles insects over a flame? Is this like little kids burning up ants with a magnifying glass? The fact that God hasn't burned up the soul...yet...is the creepiest thing about the passage. He's just kind of hanging out, contemplating the fact that he's already decided to burn something alive. It's hard to avoid the conclusion that God, in this passage, is anticipating the upcoming conflagration, perhaps even savoring it. There's certainly no sense in Edwards' prose that God is delaying the burning out of kindness or compunction.

I can't even imagine choosing to do such a thing myself, much less imagine that that is the way the creator and absolute power in the universe behaves. It's plain revolting. How can that be anybody's conception of a Higher Power?

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

point well taken.

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@Blue Republic

and so are the Lutherans (for instance). Smile

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

that if AOC forced a vote against Pelosi she wold effectively declare total war without hope of reconciliation against the Democratic Party. This has happened anyway. Pelosi just made what we all knew official.
So you got what she wanted, a death match. The most hated person in America today declares a death match. Don't roll over and bare your neck, even if it means the end of the neoliberal, fascist, quisling Democratic Party.

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On to Biden since 1973

@doh1304 with the left. Always. And since Sanders’ 2016 presidential run, they’ve done little to hide it. The “progressives”/the squad/etc. just don’t realize it. I don’t expect them to start fighting now.

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@Dr. John Carpenter
Mr. Dooley

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

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Bullseye!

Plus Israel gets $11 million per day! While half a million people are living on the street!

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

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May be there is more to force than just a vote?

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@mimi ...Is that a real book???

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@The Liberal Moonbat
and did find nothing. just some stuff I did not understand.
Amy Friend/A Field Guide to Nowhere - by Bart Gazzola
Magenta Magazine. I have not heard about it before. Magenta Magazine - The Magenta Foundation
www.magentafoundation.org.

Magenta Magazine is an online publication produced by The Magenta Foundation, which covers the visual arts in Canada and abroad

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I am sorry. I just liked the image in context to RR's essay.

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if blaming AOC almost exclusively is the best strategy.
I only see hatred of progressives here lately.

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@gjohnsit We're all gunshy, of course, after SOOOOOOOO many rounds of being betrayed, over and over and OVER. It's difficult to know what to do, what (if anything!) we're supposed to learn, even what timescale we should be operating on.

Remember always the wisdom of the Warrior-Poet:

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@The Liberal Moonbat
I know all about them. Terrible suckers.

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@gjohnsit

Nope, not at all.

As Bobby Kennedy once said, there's plenty of blame to go around.

I don't mean it quite as graciously as he did. OTOH, if he were alive in this situation, I doubt he would mean it graciously either.

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--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@gjohnsit cred the most, and she is the easiest target.
I am not seeing hatred, just disdain for her prominently displayed hypocrisy.
If she cannot make a positive difference for the benefit of the 99%, she can return to the bar.

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@gjohnsit Jimmy actually aimed his first arrow at Mark Pocan co-chair of the "Progressive Caucus." AOC decided to weigh in and Justin Jackson of the NFL Chargers called her out on it. That is how it started.

Also AOC is the most visible member of the Squad and Jimmy gave her her first interview when she originally ran for Congress on a platform of getting a floor vote on Medicare for All. Now Ilhan Omar is trying to deflect by reviving Russiagate.

Meanwhile all of the establishment Dems are now piling on Jimmy with personal attacks for his call to withhold their votes for Pelosi for speaker in order to force a floor vote on Pramila Jayapal's Medicare for All bill.

The bottom line for me is that I really do not give a sh*t about the personalities. What I give a sh*t about is my fellow citizens who do not have healthcare in the midst of a pandemic in which over 300,000 people have died. Ranting Rooster makes a great point that if you get a bad enough case of COVID and even if you survive, you may be in debt for the rest of your life. In no other industrialized country on this earth would that happen.

The fecklessness of the Justice Dems has caused Kyle Kulinski, the co-founder of the Justice Dems to call them out. These people were elected to take on the system, not become a part of it. And not one of them is willing to stand up FOR the people if it means standing up to mama bear Pelosi.

We do not have a government that works for the people. Our government works for the oligarchs as evidenced by the callousness and hostility of our elected officials towards the citizens that they were elected to serve. Compare the US to other developed nations as far as COVID relief.

And if this comment sounds harsh, it is because my anger over this has gone through the roof. I am personally okay, but it breaks my heart to know just how many people have been and are being harmed by our elected officials and it did not have to be that way. As taxpaying American, I am pissed as hell at how our government has abandoned its people.

As it has been said a lot recently, politicians are not our friends. We must hold them to account for their action or in the case of AOC, inaction.

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@gulfgal98 personally, from his degenerative bone disease treatments.
Something Dore does not mention but has mentioned several times he has faced bankruptcy, without saying anything about the reason.

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@aliasalias for the first time that I know of.
It was worse than I thought and he went thru a lot for a few years with suicidal thoughts while trying to come up with the money for treatments, maxing out credit cards, getting loans, mortgaging his home and going thru bankruptcy.
I keyed the video up to the part where he talks about his health problems, btw which are not over as he apparently still needs a lot of medications.

Maybe no one will see this but I'll know where it is on another essay where he is a subject.

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@aliasalias

After everything he’s been through he is now getting shit for how much his house cost. Dixon is an ass.

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@gulfgal98 She is semi-senile, and Botoxed to death!

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Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.

@gulfgal98 it’s not personal but AOC has made this her brand. Once upon a time, she claimed she was going to force a vote and she didn’t care if she was a one termer. She claims she’s going to “raise a rukus” and just before this all happed, she tweeted about how pressure is supposed to make power uncomfortable and that’s a good thing.

Specifically, when AOC started debating Justin Jackson on Twitter rather than responding to Jimmy, she brought herself into it. This seemed especially passive aggressive (and cowardly) to me. So, the way I see it, she’s asked for this both by telling her followers to use pressure to make power (which she is) uncomfortable and via Twitter. I don’t think any other squad people have even commented, have they?

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Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.

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@Dr. John Carpenter

or Schumer. It is just Mitch who laid this turdish bailout which is the bad guy in all of this. Even after she kept doing it yesterday and people called her out on her cowardice she kept doing it. AND guess what? SHE voted for the last bill. Some force of nature she is.

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This is something we should never forget.

Society, can exist without an economy, but an economy can not exist without society. If one wants to “save the economy”, then one must first save society. It is society that CREATES the economy, not the other way around.

Our elected officials do not appear to care about saving the American people. And for all of us, including those who are relatively secure, having a healthy society should always be the goal

Great essay! Thank you Ranting Rooster.

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Pelosi's husband received $3 million thru the PPP as did many other congress members and their spouses because so many own businesses, factory farms and other stuff and we get this.

Israel gets $4 billion which is around $11 million per day which sure could help house a lot of homeless people here don't you think?
Rich people get to write off 100% of their entertainment dinners instead of the 50% that made it thru the tax bill. GOP screwed up so many of their friends they needed democrats to help them fix it which they happily did.

So will Biden do the defense act that he gave Trump crap for not doing? If he wants us to mask up then send decent masks to everyone that should have happened already. Biden says he's going to be different than Trump in every way on his way to healing our 'souls'. Well then let's see how much different he will be from Trump. Remember it was both parties that pushed the OPEN UP and that's why they will not give people enough money to dig themselves out of the hole government dug. This will get people to risk their lives and their family's by staying at work while infected and even sick.

That Trump ignored the epidemic from the gitgo with congress' permission is a crime against humanity. No ifs ands or buttocks. They wanted us infected to create herd immunity. If this doesn't get under control soon then the whole medical system is going to collapse. People are dying from other issues than COVID because they can't get treatment. Health care workers are burned out. Not only because they have been working with sick dying people for so long, but because profits fell and hospitals laid off staff which means 1 nurse in the ICU is responsible for 3 or more patients. It's a one on one situation normally, but hey $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ right?

People are waking up more and more every day because congress actions towards their donors vs us. Good. Bought your yellow vest yet? Once again Bernie is voting for this dawg shit. He has been tweeting for months that we need $2,000/month then insisted we get another $1,200, but he is going to settle for $600? NOT GOOD ENOUGH! It takes ONE vote to block a bill till you get what you want. ONE. The GOP does it all the time. Can you remember the last time a democrat blocked a bill in the senate? It takes 5-10 members according to Twit for the house to have a bill blocked.

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"Eight million have fallen into poverty since June. If we hadn't made this deal today, 12 million Americans were going to lose unemployment benefits. But, again, this is not nearly enough for people."
—Rep. Ro Khanna

Bernie, Omar, AOC, Jayapal and many other so called progressives on tweeting this type of message over and over and I am wondering why they think that WE can do anything about it. Calling your rep does jacksh*t according to the evidence. People then either plead for more funds from a basically bot account because do you think these people are actually writing them or they say thanks for working for us. It keeps hope alive for so many when that's all it is.

Trump needs to be pushed to veto this piece of crap. People on Twitter need to implore him to reject this. Make those assholes stay in Washington over Xmas or go back home to some very, very pissed off people. If your hungry, take food from any big box store with it on the shelf. If your homeless, find empty housing and move in. As George Carlin said, “They don’t give a f*ck about you.” What happened to the general strike that was being planned if Trump got elected? Seems like it is still needed, now more than ever.

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[video:https://youtu.be/775hGlKevts]

I wished my math were better. Sigh.

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It turns out a lot of very wealthy people benefitted while legitimate small businesses did not. Click on the thread below my comment on Twitter and it will unroll. It is pretty shocking that even the PPP was another source for the wealthy to grift off.

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as if you tried to stop a bleeding man, who has lost his leg to walk on, with a band-aid. I am looking from the outside with an outsiders eyes. I can't even shake my head anymore. And some suckers try the same scams over here. If I had not justified fears, I would talk Tacheles.

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@mimi

We are, at this point, the worst place in the world.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Anyone not pushing to #ForceTheVote is our enemy, it's that simple. This isn't just a difference in tactics, it's a litmus test for who will actually fight & take risks for change. Those on the "left" who won't are basically sheep dogs, tamping things down to keep the status quo. AOC didn't start out like that, but after only two years in Congress, she's bought into the system and is now controlled by it. People can tweet all they want, but if they won't exercise power when they've got it, they're not on our side.

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