We are so good in denials - we keep doing it til we die ...

so, now I read this, and imagine hearing those news on TV sitting aside of my sister and she saying "I don't understand anything". Then she thinks I might know something she doesn't. And then I realize, I don't know really either.

Khmer Rouge leader denies mass murder, blames Vietnam

Just saying.

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Khieu Samphan said people were forced to work in labor camps because of "the immediate need to solve the problem of hunger", adding: "Is this something criminal? Of course not."

Thanks, I think? Love how you are always questioning, despite my frustration of never having answers. Solidarity.

About that quoted part, um it sounds quite insane to me. Criminally insane. I don't really support past persecutions, enough suffering already. But tell the truth, that shouldn't hurt. I feel sorry for people who appear to have lost their humanity, maybe they never had it. I don't know. Time to meditate on judgement I guess, oom.

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as a result of US bombing.

Ironically the initial US bombing in Cambodia was called Operation Menu. The six areas bombed were labelled Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Snack, Dessert, and Supper. The next bombing operation was called Operation Freedom Deal which ended with Khmer Rouge taking over the country.

Only in America....

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US 'Has the Gall' to Ask Cambodia to Pay War Debt

Published 12 March 2017

Apparently, slaughtering hundreds of thousand of Cambodians was quite expensive. The current U.S. ambassador says it's time to finally pay up.

Almost half a century after dropping 500,000 tons of explosives and killing hundreds of thousands of people in Cambodia, the United States seems to be demanding that the country pay back US$500 million in war debts, a move that sparked outcry across the political spectrum in Cambodia.
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The idea that Cambodia owed the United States money is rejected by many, including those who witnessed the massacres.

“He (Heidt) has the gall to demand the 'loans' back even though either the Khmer Rouge or the current government have been in power since 1975, that this money was still due,” James Pringle, who served as the bureau chief for Reuters in the Vietnamese city of Ho Chi Minh City during the invasion of Cambodia, wrote for The Cambodia Daily.

“Cambodia does not owe even a brass farthing to the U.S. for help in destroying its people, its wild animals, its rice fields and forest cover.”

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I've posted this here before, sorry if it's too redundant but Henry Kissinger. The guy just won't go away, the guy has never been elected to anything. Who linked me to HyperNormalisation? Thanks for that. Fool

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Edit: made a link to full version of HyperNorm video in case anyone wants to see it, all two and half hours. Kissinger stars as the one who back-stabbed Assad Sr., who then sided with Iran at same time their religious leaders sanctioned suicide and terrorism as weapons to defend Arab land. "Human Bombs" omg I had blocked out memory of the bombings in Israel talk about denial. The bombs, they are everywhere now. Blowback for what's being done to Syria today is going to be f*cking ferocious. Hope I'm wrong. Thanks

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to Vietnam's bid for independence at the end of WWII.

Declaration of Independence, Democratic Republic of Vietnam*
Ho Chi Minh (Hanoi, 2 September 1945).

(SEPTEMBER 2, 1945)

"All men are created equal. They are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness"
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For these reasons, we, members of the Provisional Government of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, solemnly declare to the world that Vietnam has the right to be a free and independent country and in fact it is so already. The entire Vietnamese people are determined to mobilise all their physical and mental strength, to sacrifice their lives and property in order to safeguard their independence and liberty
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Unfortunately for the Vietnamese, the US would not tolerate a communist government in Indochina - "Better dead than Red". So they initiated a war of aggression, first covertly, then overtly, against the Vietnamese people and their leader Ho Chi Minh. This makes the US ultimately criminally responsible for all the horrors that followed

From the Nuremberg trials:

"War is essentially an evil thing. Its consequences are not confined to the belligerent states alone, but affect the whole world. To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole."

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Need to read the history. I appreciate the links and explanations. Though I marched on the Berlin streets once upon the time shouting "Ho Ho Ho Chi Minh", all is blank now about those times (late sixties).

I was just amazed to read about this .... I remember the articles about the Killing Fields
Interview with a Mass Murder

And I need to understand the "denial syndrome" of humans. Why can't they admit anything, even if they face death?

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If you have the time:

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@CB @CB @CB Didn't mention that, did you?

An incredible threat. A truly equivalent Nation Force ready for War.

They had to be crushed.

It's really too bad WE couldn't crush a bunch of Rice Farmers.

Que Johnny Cash.

Update: PS. This is funny to my thinking. The subtitles look to be in some eastern European language. Could it be RUSSIAN? What do I know? Heh!

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Prof: Nancy! I’m going to Greece!
Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!

Firesign Theater

Stop the War!

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The subtitles look to be in some eastern European language. Could it be RUSSIAN? What do I know? Heh!

Russian (and its closest kinfolks such as Macedonian and Serbian) are written using Cyrillic script. This appears to be Polish or Czech, which are closely enough related that speakers of one can understand the other. (At least the Vatican appears to think so; the weekly Papal Public Audience is presented in Polish for speakers of this family of languages.)

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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@thanatokephaloides to come to the rescue.

I am a lowly English Major and would't know a Cyrillic character if he hit me in the head. (See what I did there? Well did you?)

I was close? Wasn't I? Wasn't I?

At least I get a Participation Trophy/Medal? Anything?

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Prof: Nancy! I’m going to Greece!
Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!

Firesign Theater

Stop the War!

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I knew I could count on you to come to the rescue.

Thank you! Smile

I am a lowly English Major and would't know a Cyrillic character if he hit me in the head. (See what I did there? Well did you?)

Yes. It took me a couple of reads to get it though! Smile

So, was your Cyrillic Character Methodical abut hitting you on the head?

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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needs an asterisk and a footnote.

*This does not apply to the USA, the one exceptional nation.

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and over again. Too many folks just don't want to leave and go away and resign and retire. So, bugging them over and over again to do so, isn't that bad. Smile

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https://caucus99percent.com/comment/268136#comment-268136

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@CB oh man I just noticed I was voting for month old comments, heh, no harm. That Patti Smith part really blew my mind, "observing culture, not participating" sounded so familiar.
'Cause I don't want to necro-thread, here is an unbroken link for Battle of Blair Mountain's comment, avoids redirect: https://penspages.wordpress.com/
I enjoyed both posts there too. Thanks.

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