Today at the DK/TOP
First up in my email is a link to a diary about the "chilling" Charlie Rose interview of Uranium Girl. It seems we have a new explanation for Why She Lost. Evil misogyny, hatred of women, is the new culprit. Never mind how many of us voted against Herself. No consideration, naturally, given to the fact that Herself managed to elbow out of the way other women who were far more qualified, qualified as in having records of solid accomplishment, who might possibly have been able to win the election. The name Sen. Amy Klobuchar comes immediately to my mind, but there are others. Barbara Boxer always outperformed her critics in elections.
Next is the usual clueless fundraising email from Kos himself, addressing me, a female old enough to be his grandmother, by first name, repeated thrice, in the most insultingly familiar manner--who does this jerk think he is? I understand he does not know me--at least I hope not--nor my age, but I doubt his emails to men have quite so familiar a tone. Kos, if someone has not been involved with your site for more than a year it is unlikely that person will be giving you money.
Comments
That's not a "new explanation"
That's the same old one.
I thought
the most recent were those dippy hippy Bernie Bros and the Russians under your bed, but I admit I haven't been paying much attention.
Mary Bennett
Poor Kos
Clicks are down. PAC money seems to be drying up.
Resort to begging.
How is a poor website owner going to maintain 'a lifestyle with which he has grown accustomed'?
I want a Pony!
Make it stop!
That's an impressive decline for 18 months.
Which goes to show
….that the Internet can readily discern and avoid a poor quality political hangout. They've gone from oasis to dry hole. If they are still pretending to be the face of the Democratic Party in 2018, the midterm polls will match those charts. We're gonna need a Plan B.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
It goes to show
that there is a price to pay when you ban your best writers and most independent thinkers.
DKos has now committed the most unforgivable sin - it's boring.
@gjohnsit
Not to mention repetitious.
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons - For thou art crunchy and good with ketchup
You can say that again! n/t
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
impressive decline
And Kos has only himself to blame......
[video:https://youtu.be/XTGmTrQXrwg]
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Oh come now
Sure sure, that's a lot of lost clicks. But every single one of the remaining clicks is a singular pearl of ideological purity.
Oh wait. That's not right either since some of the remaining clicks come from folks like me who just find DKOS a convenient place to find the Dem lies-du-jour.
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
@gjohnsit Hmm. Looks like it
Hmm. Looks like it started right after the Democratic Convention. Wonder why.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
clueless tone
You would be wrong about his emails to men. They're just as clueless as the ones to women, if not verbatim robo-copies.
And "who does this jerk think he is?" He's Markos Moulitsas, sometime progressive, gate-crashing hero now rendered into a DLC-Turd Way jerk!
But then, you already know that!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Allowing this to twist in the wind for a moment
…Caitlin Johnstone tells of the wailing coming from the Democratic McResisters this morning because their new best friend in the world, John McCain, is actually a Republican.
The McResistance Suddenly Remembers That John McCain Is A Bloodsucking Ghoul
To paraphrase Johnstone: They just can’t believe it. They cannot believe that this demented neocon they fell in love with ten minutes ago is suddenly acting like the thing that he has always been. A monster. This completely irrational sense of betrayal has crashed down on them because John McCain — who has advocated and advanced every possible act of US military aggression at every opportunity throughout his entire career, and who has spent his entire life bolstering the predatory neoliberal economy that is choking Americans to death — has betrayed all the trust they had stupidly placed in him by signing Trump's tax cut bill.
Definitely worth the read. It's pithy.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
That's the problem with always choosing the lesser evil
At some point, you're going to roll over and scream at what you got into bed with.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Snort
And it seems like just yesterday I read a headline about how McCain was going to save us from this evil tax bill by not signing it. Ahh well. He gave it “careful” consideration so he’ll be back in good graces by the next news cycle, I’m sure.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
I read it this morning.
Eight houses was new to me. Mittens Romney managed to satisfy himself with five I think.
Mary Bennett
@Pluto's Republic
I'm sorry to sound callous but - why is someone dying of a brain disease still allowed to help determine public policy?
What kind of a mental and emotional state would that likely result in (even without considering the additional effects of meds and other treatments) to affect anyone's decision-making?
I realize that the existence of a President Trump would tend to indicate that intellect and mental stability are not considered job requirements in high public office, but perhaps they should be?
Also bearing in mind that there was a post here some time back mentioning that some special Congressional drugstore supplied dementia meds to certain unnamed Congress-people...
Looney-bin jokes and reality itself both indicate that sanity and a functional brain (as well as ethics and empathy, of course) should be present in those running for public office... if they were, what a different world this would be!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Don't look at me.
I've been calling for brain scans since 2003. If only. Avoiding Reagan, whose cheese had already slipped off his cracker while he was still governor of California, would have meant the world to the American people. The Deep State Nazis were able to get close to him and infiltrate the infrastructure of the Federal Government, granting each other positions of authority, while hiding behind walls of classified documents. They're completely rogue now in their permanent positions of influence and threat.
But back to brain scans, I can't imagine voting for a president without a comprehensive brain and mental health study. However, when I suggested it (which I do with monotonous regularity), people seem appalled, as if we have no right to invade their privacy.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
@Pluto's Republic
Agreed, although in the case of the current Resident a brain scan wasn't entirely necessary.
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons - For thou art crunchy and good with ketchup
@Pluto's Republic
Wish you were in charge of the universe...
Maybe try pointing out that if such brain scans - including those to ensure normal human empathy so as to eliminate psychopathic personalities from government - had been conducted on all candidates/appointees for public office (starting with the avoidance of Regan), this corporate/billionaire 'government' wouldn't exist to be invading the privacy (and often the countries) of everyone around the freaking globe and at best placing us all at (numerous) unnecessary hazard, even beyond that which they represent themselves?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
This brings up a very key point
... an overarching reality that lives inside of us that we have not acknowledged yet. We're out of time.
We cannot survive as a species outside of communism/socialism. We are born into it and rely on it to survive for the first 20 years of our lives. For the past 100,000 years, we have lived largely as native communists until 500+ years ago, when we got serious about guns and cash. Prior to that, communism kept us alive. It is in our genetic code. Splitting it off for the sake of Das Capital has broken our minds and is killing us. And killing our world. Capitalism and Socialism is a Yin Yang balance that the collective mind requires. It is sanity. Capitalism, alone, brings fear and madness to society. We become monsters.
We need to resolve this before we vote for another candidate. It certainly explains the Bernie phenomenon, and the insane reaction to it from the fake liberals. It even explains the Russia madness. There's an interesting opinion piece in The Atlantic this month that touches on it.
I notice you dwell on empathy and madness. This should resonate.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
@Pluto's Republic
Agree so freaking utterly, starting from especially here.
Empathy and ethics are indeed absolutely integral to our species survival. Psychopaths lack these qualities, (which is why conscience - formed of these qualities - is widely recognized as a 'tell') but whether this is inborn or acquired, are self-defined as such through the actions and attitudes of those incapable of caring about harm done to others in their pursuit of whatever personal goals may strike their fancy. They do not see other beings as 'real', more as mechanical objects which may or may not be useful to them.
(Rightly or wrongly, I've always felt that the theory of behaviourism was developed by those who dealt well enough with their unrecognized deficiencies to create a science showing the manner in which they see the world and the life within it. In my view, life is not 'merely mechanical' and suffering inflicted on helpless animals is still cruelty, whatever excuse or lack of capacity for understanding is in operation.)
An inborn psychopath lacks the human brain functions defining humanity and they cannot think or feel the way we do.
Their ruthlessness often enables them to achieve positions of leadership/control as humans with normal brains capable of humanity tend to take others at their word and have no idea of what they're dealing with. And from there, they can pathologize an entire society; in the case of globalists, a world.
This is not due to 'the human condition', this is the result of psychopaths taking power over humanity, the human qualities and those possessing them being despised by those lacking them and seen as a weakness which they can exploit when not recognized for what they are.
Societies survive by the whole protecting and, where necessary, helping the parts, as the parts form the whole. Many of the humans in many societies may have been able to survive despite having one or more psychopaths among their number, but when their inherent callousness/cruelty influences that society's worldview, they weaken the whole by the weakening of the human parts.
A 'society' formed of psychopaths/the psychopathic, however, cannot hope to survive. Psychopaths will only work together as long as it suits them and often seem to be inherently parasitic, preying off the fruits of the labour of others while uncaring of their welfare. And brainscans do show the incapacities of psychopathy, as you know, by showing the lack of empathy defining the condition.
We could keep them out of public office.
What's being termed socialism (more realistically - not the COMMIE! or other disinformation, of course) is really common-sense. The survival of the human species and the actualization of the ideals of civilization - and now the survival chances of planetary life forming the natural life support system - very obviously rest on a sufficient degree of socialism being present within societies around the world.
Socialism essentially means to me that the community governance, of whatever variety, is of, by and for the people and that their happiness, personal (non-predatory) freedom and welfare are paramount within a sustainable system. The recognition that their country and its resources belongs to them as a commons, that law in the public interest is required, and that all are entitled to fair, just and reasonable treatment and opportunity, with equal rights for all. Humans sharing humanity, sanity and respect for each other and the natural world. I've heard of many variations and different preferences on specifics, but that pretty much covers the principle of what I'd hope to see. (Assuming I'm not missing something important, lol.)
I suspect that we agree closely enough for rock and roll, although I'm often wrong, lol.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
@Pluto's Republic
I'm sorry to sound callous but - why is someone dying of a brain disease still allowed to help determine public policy?
What kind of a mental and emotional state would that likely result in (even without considering the additional effects of meds and other treatments) to affect anyone's decision-making?
I realize that the existence of a President Trump would tend to indicate that intellect and mental stability are not considered job requirements in high public office, but perhaps they should be?
Also bearing in mind that there was a post here some time back mentioning that some special Congressional drugstore supplied dementia meds to certain unnamed Congress-people...
Looney-bin jokes and reality itself both indicate that sanity and a functional brain (as well as ethics and empathy, of course) should be present in those running for public office... if they were, what a different world this would be!
Well, can't seem to get this to post or preview, but I'll try again anyway... and again, lol.
Edit: weird, actually got another page here up to check, and kept refreshing it to see if this had actually gone through after trying again and it failed to show, yet after finally going through, I see this one's a dupe, lol. Sorry. But I do think that this is an important point which should have been considered ever since (during, actually) the lunatics in the Bush 2 Admin. Now, to see if this will go through without timing out, instantly or slowly.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
@Ellen North They did it with Reagan
They did it with Reagan for 4-6 years.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal
Painfully true. After all, don't the real Self-Appointed Rulers Of The Universe merely require somebody capable of sitting upright and holding a pen to sign things - and people - over to their control?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Is there some aversion of writing a headline for comments?
Or is this something else?
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
@snoopydawg
Sorry, I didn't know it was required.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
@Pluto's Republic Are they just as upset
Are they just as upset about the Democrats supporting Trump's tax bill?
https://gritpost.com/corporate-democrats-trumps-tax-bill/
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Ironically TOP will be
Ironically TOP will be spiking the football and claiming vindication once Mueller finishes indictments for obstruction of justice and undermining Obama foreign policy.
And there will STILL be no evidence
…of the preposterous paranoid delusion of collusion between Russia and Donald Trump to steal the 2016 Presidential Election.
These nitwits are small facet of the political failure that has made the Democratic Party look like a ship of fools. They are blocking the path of the People's progress.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
Rec
for Ship of Fools.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
bing! we told you
BernieBros mofos it was Russia!!
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
Actually they are now blaming her loss on
Rose and Lauer for asking her tuff questions about her emails and other stuff. If those men hadn't asked their questions, she'd be president today and they wouldn't have even tried passing their tax bill.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Nastarana, the explanation for Moosetit's triple salutation
is that he thought you must be as dumb as most of the site's readership. You forgot to obtain the latest Kossack talking point from the site:
I had the impression that
I am supposed to be, like, really in a flutter and all impressed that the Great Kos would address me personally. Like I said, what a jerk.
Mary Bennett
@Alligator Ed
I always loved the way Her Herself, in stating Her own claimed 'excuse' of Her own gross incompetence to understand and enact basic security protocol integral to the position of Sec of State and Her admittance of this phenomenal hazard to national security which Her had created 'for Her Royal convenience (and personal profiteering)' and wished to re-enact and expand upon as the President for all richly rewarding corporations and billionaires against those nasty citizens, apparently felt that this was a selling point for voters.
Trump actually was, in that way, an appropriate 'choice' to stick the voters with, and one which I still believe to have been at least the slower fatal hazard, as Hillary's promised-to-donors (although internationally illegal and grossly immoral invasion-of-)Syrian No Fly Zone to shoot down invited-in Russian planes would have happened ASAP, especially as one of her first promised acts as President was to invite Bibi in to help arrange US 'foreign policy' to suit the psychopathic Likud.
At least the nuclear exchanges haven't yet begun, as far as I know...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I remember....
...and it seems like it wasn't that long ago (Spring 2016) but so much water under the bridge since then (!!!!!) and TOP not very nicely showed us the door, and I thought, "What kind of a twit is this?" And I wondered if anyone else saw the irony in a site for the discussion of American politics (allegedly a progressive site...) becoming increasingly Orwellian, despotic even, with Fearless Leader having hissy fits, issuing edicts and fiats, a more-than-willing squad of offensive-to-a-degree Flying Monkeys to do his fascist bullying, and that lovely credo of, "Well, it's his site! Now have a doughnut!" It became pettier than a schoolyard full of bullies, an echo chamber for the vilest candidate Dems had ever nominated, a coddling parallel universe where safe spaces were created to soothe wounds inflicted by "Bernie Bros" and to exchange personal pleas for $ to help with their cats' upcoming surgeries. And the rancid water they carried (i.e., talking points direct from Brooklyn) "most admired woman in the world," "a champion of women and children" "a progressive champion" etc when five minutes with Google would have shown exactly the opposite? Anyone else see the irony in that? So many GREAT writers back in the day, so much perception and intelligence (and remember when the poll at the top of the page was overwhelmingly pro-Bernie?) and funny how the best and brightest, with a few exceptions, came to the conclusion that Bernie was the way to go? And then the edict, and then the infusion of Brockian paid trolls, and the rest, as they say, is history. Or perhaps HERstory....
I still return occasionally just to see how very far they've fallen down the rabbit hole, and occasionally to drop a comment (it usually gets hidden of course-- most recent example, someone was saying how they believed the Russians were behind Al Franken's inability to keep his hands to himself, and I merely suggested that if the Russians weren't anywhere else, they were certainly taking up space in that person's head-- hidden!) and, again it's incredible that a site for Dems has all the intolerance, group-think, and swift punishment for those not yet fully indoctrinated of a Vietnamese Education Camp circa 1976. Amazing!!!!
But that karma-- she's a bitch. I side with those who say the measure of a person is not to be taken when they've hit rock bottom, but rather when they achieve power, $$$, fame. How unfortunate that when Kos' turn came for the latter, he was shown to be as petty and corruptible as HER. Some have greatness thrust upon them; others, ignominy.
Semper ubi sub ubi
Cat's surgeries??
I missed that one. I remember it seems like years, eons, ago, trying to explain why Killary was going to loose--I think I said something along the lines of on issues people care about right now this year, TTP, GMOs, she was either wrong or out to lunch. She couldn't even bring herself to denounce the ivory trade, which is free brownie points for politicians, and got myself accused of being concerny, whatever that means.
I remember way way back at the dawn of time, Kos kicked out someone known as Toquedeville, a brilliant writer I thought, and I never could find where he went after that.
Mary Bennett
@Nastarana LOL yes Nastarana, that
LOL yes Nastarana, that was a reference to many posts I saw when I invaded their 'safe spaces' and found that so many of the brain-addled HER cultists were saying this one and that one from their 'village' needed $$$ as their cat was sick. Perhaps if they lived in country that Neoliberalism hadn't shredded, and the government invested in their people rather than their corporations and 1%, and the cost of healthcare wasn't bankrupting them, they might have had the $$ to adequately care for their pets. But no inconsistency, no war crime or waffling, flip-flopping, union-fucking prison profiting by their heroine was too heavy for them to balance on the head of their collective pin, like so many angels....sigh. Yes, I remember Toqueville! Great writer, and so many others as well. Perhaps Kos had been promised a cushy job post-HER coronation....and I must admit when I need a little lift, I visit the election night blogs, starting at the first, and delight in their cocky arrogance turned disbelief turned rage....
Semper ubi sub ubi
He was working in her organization
It's called CAP, but I don't remember what it stands for. It's the new and improved DLC. He had been working with them during the campaign, IIRC.
He has fallen so far since he wrote an opinion article on why she wasn't qualified to be president when she ran against Obama.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
A lot of bright folks were kicked out
to the point where it's hit critical mass, by now there is more talent among ex-kossacks than there is among the present ones, and the quality of the writing there has declined.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
@dervish
Soon it will consist only of directly ALEC/Likud-written talking points, just like too-many in Congress. Oh, wait, it was already kinda like that when I gave up on the place.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Soon it will be only CTR trolls
and bots of dubious ethnicity, and of course David Brock.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
And the new members that signed up years ago
I read a comment from an old time member who pointed out that there are a lot of new names that he didn't recognize, but they had been members who had few comments during all those years. I've been trying to see if I can figure them out.
Did kos just make up a bunch of member accounts for making it seem like there are more people on there?
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
I find it hard to beleive that these accounts
lied dormant for all those years, yeah I think he just created them. For all the talk against paid trolling, and sock-puppets, there is nothing that stops Kos from using them on his own website, except of course, ethics.
I'm pretty certain that they were overrun with Brock trolls last year, and still are to some extent.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Toquedeville...
Went to buhdydharma's site, Docudharma, after he was banned from DKos. He posted there for a few years and then just kind of faded away. Last I heard he was trying to start his own site, that was probably 2009-2010. Don't what happened to him after that.
@JtC
OMG Buhdy's place, right. I tried it out; of course not enough traffic at the time compared to GOS. There was also Star Hollow Gazette or something. Remember Mary Scott O'Connor getting the boot and creating My Left Wing waaaay back in the day? FireDogLake. OPOL came back from his 2014-5(?) Costa Rican walkabout and set up a site. The TX fellow who ran the Bernie News Roundup tried it. @ 2014-15 SouthernLiberalinMD led a group out of DK to "the lifeboat" that didn't make it - that wasn't related to caucus99 was it?
Sigh. Lots of good folks, it's tough to step away from the vortex and generate critical mass. Thanks to Teh Ides, HRCs Fail then 2017's mini-purge (mahakali overdrive et al) it seems caucus has reached escape velocity.
Congrats JtC
JVolvo2
I'd love to see MSOC again
I wish she'd pop in here. Good to see you Volvo!
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
To be clear, . . .
SouthernLiberalinMD's lifeboat did make it. A lifeboat isn't a destination in itself, a sanctuary, but a way to get to it. A couple of versions of the lifeboat, in Google Groups format, kept us together long enough for JtC to set up this more substantial site of C99P. SouthernLiberalinMD is, of course, our own Can't Stop the Macedonian Signal. There were others, too, who were involved in the effort to reach escape velocity from the GOS, and most of them post here regularly or drop by occasionally as OPOL does.
Yes, exactly...
Thanks dance. It was a long journey from SouthernLiberalinMD's (Can't Stop the Macedonian Signal) Google Group to what eventually became caucus99percent. I think I did a very short synopsis of the trek in an early essay here. Retelling that story would make a great essay, I think I'll speak with CStMS about a collaboration on one.
@JtC
Please do do an essay on this! I had no idea CSTMS'd begun the initial prototype of this site and would love to read the details of this inception!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I've already contacted her...
and it's in the works.
@JtC
Great, and many thanks to you both! I'm looking forward to reading this history, as you can probably tell.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Lifeboats probably still exist
in a variety of forms and persuasions. The nice thing about the internet is that it's a big place, and participation in one site doesn't generally preclude participation in others.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
LieparDestin who wrote the Bernie round up threads
created his own website The Progressive Wing and he keeps his eyes on what Bernie's doing plus other news like an open thread. It's a great website and has a lot of familiar names on it.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
I don't believe Kos was ever self financed.
I think I read somewhere about him convincing someone that a website to support Democrats was needed. I wonder what he was promised in the event of a Killary victory? Now it looks like the big donors might be abandoning him.
Dear Ellen North, I ran headfirst into the Likud talking points when I committed a diary asking why American feminists were not supporting the heroic Kurdish women fighters, to be told in patiently condescending tones that it was "more important" to take down Assad.
Mary Bennett
@Nastarana
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Ouch! Lucky you're a hard-headed reality seeker so that propaganda wall couldn't mush your (much-needed) brain, as it seems to in the case of some unfortunates...
I seem to recall having read a conversation like that although haven't been there for ages apart from the odd cesspool dive to rec something or whatever, (can't even handle that anymore, lol, too pathetically sick there, and I get updates on their their propaganda variations from various hardier souls) so dunno if it was at TOP or on comments elsewhere. Sad that this Big Lie strategy works so often on so many...
Man, just tried to preview to see if anything was going through and got another instant timeout because the site was taking too long to respond...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Oh, poor Kos... having such problems!
As the post below shows, things are not all rosy in Kos-land. After all the shit he gives people on a daily basis, he's upset because someone might call him a name (neoliberal shill).... I would say that if this site is going down, then I'll salute it. The last two messages I received from his staff (I think one was from him) were total lies about me. He needs to grow a skin! From a dairy in early Nov titled "Where is Kos?"...
kos Nov 06 · 11:03:25 PM
I appreciate the sentiment, I truly do. My absence as two major causes: 1) focusing on growing Daily Kos really is a full-time job. Running a company of myself, or 15 employees is a lot different than one that is fast approaching 70 employees. And 2) I’ve had to deal with some tough personal matters, and they’ve left me too drained. And since every time I write something I have to deal with everyone calling me a sellout neoliberal shill, it’s not something that works for me in my current mental state. It’s best to focus on being a CEO until my personal life issues are in order. And then, with my famously thick skin back intact, I can reengage the battle.
But I do miss writing, and I do miss being more engaged with you guys. I hope to be back soon!"
In the last week he wrote two diaries about how ALL the accused men, including Franken, should resign... because of all the women in the Party... they need their votes... YES, it'a all about the votes, not the issue of sexual harassment.
And here is a link to the latest 'scandal' of bojo-ing someone who many felt was an epitome of giving and caring on DKos...
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/26/1718178/-Daily-Kos;-Above-Al...
Apparently, the Kos organization is not above searching other sites and trying to find dirt on their regulars.... even ones like this. There was a another diary on this issue too.
So everyone is worried about poor Hillary and misogyny? Looks like DKos runs it's own brand against women.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
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Not up to going there, lol. Any chance of an overview for those of more delicate stomach?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
This is the bojo'd player....
Apparently a long time member who made sure that people on Kos who were hurt or sick or in need received help. From the comments, she was extremely popular and well liked and no on can figure it out. She was not told by administration the real reason.... .just some cryptic comment from Elfling. I really think the administration has lapsed into democarthyism. In fact, I'll bet some staff member is assigned to keep an eye on DKos accounts that post here.
Story Here Our Beloved, BFtzinAR Has Been Bojo'd!!!
From Her Profile Female, "older", mother, grandmother, and currently owned by 2 cats. Former elected County official. Proud pragmatic progressive vested in building community and making things better - for everybody but the most vulnerable first. Joined Feb 15, 2008
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Bojo'd; For Unexplainable. Reasons?
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
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Thanks! I think what you've stated here explains it.
Despite the 'pragmatic', how despicably Sanders-like!
If she'd been the President or Prime Minister of another country, she'd have been promptly assassinated or kidnapped to be 'regime changed', in part so as not to give Americans or others under corporate rule ideas/hope; being only a commenter at DKos, she was merely Bojo'd as A Bad Influence. Her socialistic, non-psychopathic hehaviour in caring about and even helping other people was not in keeping with the site propaganda/'social engineering' goals - and I hope that she finds her way here or some other place where humans are welcome.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Apparently she was accused of collusion
with others on some other site to create havoc on DKos. That sure doesn't fit the profile, but what do facts and evidence have to do with the whole community moderation system anyway? It appears that even reasonable staff like Meteor Blades and Elfling have been pulled into this pattern of McCarthyistic type tactics. Guilty by innuendo and tattle tailing. Really awful.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
There's more to it Fish
In fact her banning was warranted. The charity stuff reminded me of the old days when the worst pie-fighters would drain their mojo, and then go post some cute cat pictures to recover it. When it picked up a bit, they'd be back at it.
Bfitz was like that, although the negative side was mostly behind the scenes. She's the very definition of a Hillbot.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
But they like Hillbots over there.
Don't they? I don't believe in banning people from sites unless they are outwardly threatening other people. If you don't like opinions, you either engage and argue or ignore them. I have seen too many people banned from this site whose only offense was not "thinking" like the administration or Kos. I never ran across this person, but if you read the comment threads in the couple of articles about her banning, there were plenty of people who did like her. Kos makes stuff up when it comes to his site being 'under attack'. I'm sure that the message I got when I was given a 3 mos. time out was written by him and it accused me of lobbing personal insults at people, which I have NEVER done. I asked for this to be addressed on the Help Desk and got nothing. They are cowards, and I can't defend in any way how they handle their 'community moderation', including the concept of banning people.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
I think what put
me over the top at TOP was mentioning something about Her granny panties. After two T.O.s that remark sent me packin'.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
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Yes, but the propaganda-labels assigned to those of the reality-based community are known to the victims as being untrue, while accurate labels hurt so much more, at least where income is prospectively involved for the convincing propagandists.
In shifting to a propaganda-only site, DKos has shed all credibility for even the marginally-informed.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Baloney.
My guess, he was working the phones trying to convince his backers he is still important.
Mary Bennett
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Center for American Progress
Interesting to see the United Arab Erimates being one of their funders.
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