(For those that follow ‘Q’): Krassenstein brother says hes shutting Q down

https://twitter.com/krassenstein/status/1039972012159107075?s=20

Reddit bans QAnon subreddit that featured pro-Trump conspiracy theories

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"We are very clear in our site terms of service that posting content that incites violence, disseminates personal information, or harasses will get users and communities banned from Reddit," the representative said.

The QAnon conspiracy theory has become popular among a group of supporters of President Donald Trump. Allegations include that a multibillion-dollar cement company and Tom Hanks are involved in child sex trafficking and pedophilia, and that Trump and special counsel Robert Mueller are working to take down the Deep State

https://www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/reddit-bans-qanon-subreddit-that-fe...

I don’t follow this person but I know some here do. I’m posting this so you can see who’s out there trying to shut everything down.

Feds Seized a Fortune From #Resistance Icons Accused of Boosting Online Ponzi Schemes.

In late 2016, federal agents showed up at the Fort Myers, Florida, homes of brothers Brian and Edward Krassenstein, seizing computers and financial records, and hauling off “at least 20 to 30 bundles of stuff.”

At the time, the story was just a notable blip on local media’s crime blotter. But in the two years since, the Krassensteins have become more than a pair of local businessmen. They’re now prominent members of the online anti-Trump “resistance.”

According to the feds, the brothers also, until recently, ran websites that propped up fraudulent online financial scams. Law enforcement officials last year seized nearly half a million dollars from the brothers, money that prosecutors say was derived from wire fraud. The Krassensteins, who have not been charged with any crimes, maintain that they did nothing wrong or illegal.

But it has also drawn the scrutiny and criticism of progressive activists who see the Krassensteins as opportunists distracting from a more productive message. While others have been accused of using the anti-Trump “resistance” to line their own pockets, the Krassensteins have a documented history of involvement with shady internet get-rich-quick schemes—a history that one federal financial investigator had reason to believe amounted to a criminal conspiracy.

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Despite that detailed account of the illicit activity that allegedly enriched the Krassensteins, the federal government never charged either of the brothers with a crime, instead opting to simply go after what prosecutors alleged were their ill-gotten gains. The government eventually seized $450,000 from them.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/feds-seized-a-fortune-from-resistance-icon...

These guys are a perfect fit for the ‘Resistance’. And they’re plying tbeir trade to the right people. Either corrupt, willfully stupid, or just naturally obtuse.

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k9disc's picture

how stupid much of the Establishment support is. It's really quite embarrassing to be associated with them. One of the more powerful rationales for not engaging is to distance myself from their lunacy.

So strange to see people, and a faction of people lose their minds in real time.

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"We are very clear in our site terms of service that posting content that incites violence, disseminates personal information, or harasses will get users and communities banned from Reddit," the representative said.

People post a Q drop and then there's discussion about it. No calls to incite violence or anything else listed. Funny though isn't it that it has been up for awhile, but they decided to shut it down now?

BTW. Did you hear that Russian bots were trying to take down the ACA starting in 2014? I've seen people saying that Russia was interfering in the country as far back as 2005 and many of them were on ToP sewing divisions .... smh

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@snoopydawg
From a bus I regularly ride one can see a red-orange billboard this week with the following message in big white capital letters:
"Is our vote by mail system safe from Vladimir Putin?" -- and then the letters KUOW. Meanwhile VVP has plenty to do at home, keeping GMO seeds and Monsanto, among other things, out of his country. Sign of the times.
["KUOW's award-winning newsroom brings you in-depth reporting you won't find anywhere else."]

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EdMass's picture

Random thing

Thing

Random thing

More things

Q

Just goes to show you how insane the MSM is that they feel compelled to "report".

Wut? Randoms show up with t-shirts with Q on them?

I don't care what they say, we are not this stupid.

**Sigh**

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@EdMass
BUT many are. I can only think of 3 here who follow this stuff but there might be more. I was posting that mainly so those that those who do can see what kind of people are cutting off their access to information from that site. They’re freaking scammers but they’re members in obviously good standing with the dimwits who support The Clinton Creature.

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@Amanda Matthews Most people don't know who or what Q is--nor do they care. They also don't care about the steady erosion of constitutional liberties we are supposed to enjoy. The danger of conflation is common. Believing in the legitimacy of Q does NOT imply the correctness of Trump's policy. Q is most decidedly one side of the current silent civil war of which the greatest portion of American's are unaware.

I neither know nor care about the Krassenstein brothers or Microchip or others who claim either they are Q or they know who Q is/are. Whatever one may think of the semi-Delphic prognostications of Q, only the willfully blind could deny the authenticity of Q being in Trump's inner circle.

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@Alligator Ed
the chest thumping and bragging are known scammers.

Personally I don’t believe in anything anymore.

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I am one of those three people here who has been following the Q posts since about the second or third day when I stumbled upon them via a YouTube posting. There are a number of people who have tried to profit in one way or another from the Q phenomenon. And there have been others who posed as Q supporters and/or interpreters who ended up being outted as disinformation agents. Jerome Corsi is a prime example.

The sub reddit discussion board on Q was shut down, but Q himself does not post there. The only place Q posts is on an 8chan board that has been specifically created for Q. He has been posting there since about January and has specifically posted that it is the only place he posts and he does not operate through others who claim to know Q. His posts are protected by a trip code unique to him so no one can post under the Q handle except for the real Q.

There are other anons who post on the 8chan board, many of whom have been involved in following Q since the beginning. I do follow Q, but do not go to the 8chan board. Instead, I go to an aggregator board which lists only the Q posts.

In addition, I follow three individuals on YouTube who interpret the Q posts each day. These people have been following Q for at least eight months or more. They do not advertise or ask for people to pay them through Patreon either. These three people take the time to not only read the posts and follow the links that Q has given, but often go even deeper into background materials. By following three different interpreters, I am getting a range of opinions as to the meanings behind some of the more cryptic Q posts. From these opinions and supporting information, I can formulate my own opinions as to the validity of the information.

The earlier Q posts were far more cryptic than the more recent ones. I believe that this is because the information we are now getting via Q is something that is already happening but not yet publicly known. Q has often said the future proves past and for those who have been following the Q posts, it does appear to be that way.

So here are the three YouTube interpreters that I follow. SpaceShot76 is the one I have been following the longest. He is usually the first to post new updates, often late at night. My favorite YouTube Q interpreter is In Pursuit of Truth. He is easy to listen to, has a sense of humor, and does the deep dives into background information. My third YouTube site I use is SeethingFrog. SeethingFrog does not go over every Q post one by one like the other two sites do. Instead, he presents a broader big picture view of what he interprets to be happening. Also, of the three, only SeethingFrog shows his face to the camera.

People may think this is a waste of time, but I have found it to be of great value. Following the Q posts has created a vast army of people doing incredible research and exposing what we are starting to see as a massive depth of long standing corruption in our government. For me, knowledge is power.

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@gulfgal98

for saying all of this. It clarifies the phenomenon and simplifies the whole subject. I really appreciate your comments about what you've read in these sources.

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@Linda Wood I have avoided posting about this because it seems to create a more negative backlash than any other subject and I probably will avoid doing so again. I just felt my post would be a clarification of what is going on as I see it. If it turns out that I am wrong, I will gladly post about that too. I am old enough and mature enough to admit it if I am wrong. Thanks again.

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Alligator Ed's picture

@gulfgal98 My favorite Q interpreters are praying medic,Justinformed, Citizens investigation Report, and Deceptionbytes. I have watched other channels. These sources additionally provide insights into aspects of Q reporting the others don't. The story of CIA satellite transmission terminations as mentioned by Q is plausible. A few recent articles (sorry, no links) have intimated the CIA is now blind, hence cutting down on their emanations of propaganda. That statement does not imply Q is propaganda-free.

Most of the time Q gets it right--see QProofs.com.

The Dims are arrogant idiots. Need proof? They nominated Killary. I will not thread-jack this comment chain by listing more of their imbecility.

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@Alligator Ed Citizens Investigative Reports who probably goes into the information deeper than anyone else. Plus she has put everything into a Trello board which makes it easy for those who know how to use a Trello board to do their own research.

BTW, it is so very good to see you this evening, AE. Smile

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@gulfgal98
insult. It was an explanation as to why I posted that Tweet.

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@Amanda Matthews It just seems that this is the one subject that causes more negative backlash than any other here. I have no idea how many people here actually follow it. I just decided to step up and own it.

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@gulfgal98 I listened to one of your links and had enough when he attacked antifa but not the neonazis.
His twist on words is too sophisticated to be anything other than CIA.
For instance, trying to undermine FBI agents because they are biased against Trump.
Of course they are! Trump's a racist Hitler wannabe. There is no mythical neutral ground where unicorns live that carry out investigations and have no bias one way or the other. If they were pro Trump theyd be covering up for him.
Another example is smearing whistleblowers because they have an agenda. Agendas are irrelevant if whats being exposed is true.

These QAnon guys are all right wing assholes from what I can tell.

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@Battle of Blair Mountain that the only sites that are reporting on the Q phenomenon are conservative. And I do not subscribe to everything any one of them says, just as I do not subscribe to everything that someone from our part of the political sphere says. Just like with tweets and op ed written by so called liberals, there will be bias. It is called using critical thinking skills, some of which requires sorting the chaff from the wheat.

If you want my opinion on Antifa and the Neo Nazis, I personally believe they both are being funded by the same oligarch(s) who are using these groups to induce civil violence and keep us continually divided against one another.

This next thing is something that I cannot post enough here. If we are to survive against the evil treachery of the oligarchy, we need to change our paradigms of thinking. That means we have to band together as human beings to fight these people who have been behind so much murder and suffering in the world. These people do not care how many human beings they kill as they continue their relentless grabbing a larger and larger portion of the pie. They want depopulation and slavery.

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@gulfgal98

The information that Q has released has led to people searching for what he is talking about. I have learned about the actions that the Obama justice department took during the lead up to Russia Gate that would be criminal in a just country and much, much more.

If people don't want to believe that Q has released valuable information that's fine, but quit attacking those of us that do.

It wasn't only the awakening site that was taken down, it was more that 15 other sites that followed Q. This is censorship and they are removing fringe far right sites now, but they will eventually get around to the far left sites and go from there. This is just more of the Orwellian world we are living in.

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@gulfgal98

...and sorting through rhetoric to isolate the facts and circumstances of the dilemma that negatively impacts us, is — I have come to realize — a gift or an acquired skill that is possessed by only a few. I know it seems so elementary when you are mining evidence and the truth, and you assume your readers understand the process and could do it themselves if they wanted to. As a result, you assume that you escape the taint of the defective product you are examining forensically.

But it isn't so. People may not understand your gift at all, and they do not readily separate you from the questionable landfill you are sorting through. Big Al offers a very good example of this jaundiced perception that can suddenly ensnare him — and us. So, each time, you must perform your litany of disclaimers, which begin with "I hate Trump. He is a liar and an evil moron...." and so forth. It's tedious but it's simple enough, and it neutralizes defensiveness and marginalization that can easily obscure the importance of your revelations.

Onward.

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@Pluto's Republic

So, each time, you must perform your litany of disclaimers, which begin with "I hate Trump. He is a liar and an evil moron...." and so forth. It's tedious but it's simple enough, and it neutralizes defensiveness and marginalization that can easily obscure the importance of your revelations.

You will note that I do this in most of my q-relted comments because many on the left--far left--progressive left denigrate anything written which might reek of "conservative" bias. Believe it or not, there are antiwar Repugnants--mainly libertarians like Rand Paul. Lots of Conservatives support M4A. Conversely, some progressives believe in border security and lawful citizenship, as opposed to open borders so beloved by globalists. Is national sovereignty a good thing or a bad thing? It all depends upon domestic policy and how that policy impacts people in other nations.

A word about Antifa--they are about as anti-fascist as Hitler's brown shirts. The Democrats now screaming "resist" often promote violence as part of the resistance. Witness Marble-headed Maxine Waters with her unabashed calls for social disruption and harassment of those who have the terrify to espouse a different belief set. Going back a little further, we have Lying Loretta Lynch suggesting in 2016 that people demonstrate in the streets--and not to do so non-violently.

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@Alligator Ed

You are a sensitive guy, sensitive to the many entangled complexities that come with intellectual empathy. They say, beyond all that, you reach a place of simple love. I hope that's true.

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@Battle of Blair Mountain

for the responses of gulfgal98 and snoopydawg to your comment, I want say that my understanding of the scrutiny of the FBI by Congress is not over whether they had bias for or against any candidate but whether they used it to violate the law in surveillance without a warrant, in establishing probable cause when applying for a warrant, and whether they used unsubstantiated and salacious material to acquire a warrant, among other possibilities. It's not that their bias is the problem, in and of itself. We all have bias, and members of the Department of Justice surely have it personally. But professionally, they have to obey and enforce the law.

I think the focus on FBI bias, as expressed in the text messages, is to establish that the Bureau can't say, we make unwarranted searches and seizures all the time, that's standard operating procedure. No. It's not standard operating procedure. And the bias expressed in the texts indicates a possible motive for extraordinary actions that are hard to explain otherwise.

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@Linda Wood But as you note in your comment, the sin is not to have bias but it is to guide one's actions according to that bias.

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@Linda Wood

The investigations into what the FBI did during the investigation into her private email server are not over hence the grand jury involving McCabe and his lying. Amanda posted that people from the Obama justice department are going to be testifying to congress again about what they did regarding Russia Gate. Some think it's rats fleeing a sinking ship. And whether anyone is going to be charged for anything is anyone's guess, but we know what they did.

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