Only thing is, it seems as though neither of the corporate Parties can be 'pushed' off the corporate payroll without cleaning out the what-d'you'call'ums? - Corpocrats? Corpocan'ts? - they're stacked with... they think in terms of serving corporations and billionaires for huge pay-offs, while draining the public and environment to do it, using propaganda and other criminal tactics, because that's how they work and what they are - corrupt and psychopathic.

If they can't/won't uphold their country's Constitution or basic job responsibilities to serve the public interest and will lie, poison, steal from and pass unconstitutional and abusive 'law' against the people to further enrich and empower destructive self-interests at public expense, how do you push them? If you crowd-funded a big enough bribe to catch their interest, wouldn't they just figure that the public clearly hadn't been drained enough yet and could get by on lower wages or something? While the corporations followed up with a bigger bribe/more lucrative 'job' offer to get their way anyway, leaving the people scraping for hemorrhoid cream yet again?

So far, every time, it's been back to the two-party corporate trade-off scam, validating and strengthening what can only be described as global enemies of democracy and of the survival of life on the planet.

The propaganda hold on the public must be broken - and right now, polls indicate that the American people are currently awake enough to believe very little of the corporate media propaganda. Standing Rock is getting many groups active and aware that it's a case of making a stand now, before nothing remains to fight for with no-one remaining to even try.

It looks more and more as though the way to go might be a clean-starting crowd-funded people's Party with no baggage and no corruption allowed, with a platform actually defining the Party and what it stands for, information on this to be spread all over the internet while we still have one and enlisting all Progressives/Berners, many of whom will never again vote either corporate party for evil, because there's a lot of that about among the aware.

And there are objectives posted all over this site which call for essentials like a fair voting system and public funding, the former being perhaps particularly essential prior to the next election, although FSM knows how to achieve that... But the American elections drastically affect the world, and the world can't take much more of this at all, so Americans having something sustainable and democratic to vote for means the world to us all.

I'd had a Fair Elections Canada alert notice that Trudeau's attempt to edge out of the promised fair vote system for Canada, (which he'd never intended to implement - still can't believe that anyone actually trusted the slimy Liberal Party, for FSM's sake!) by snail-mailing out a really freaking stupid and deceptive questionnaire as the 'public consultation' he wished to quash, was a laughing-stock not only in Parliament but on Twitter; went to read the linked Twitter thread, and came back (bitterly) laughing - to a blank page with only a heading. I pegged that email, reduced to that heading, which today has entirely vanished from my inbox, not showing in my now-empty Deleted file or Junk Mail. And seemingly cannot locate that alert on search.

While such as this is just the gentlest of beginnings of the corporate-controlled internet in corporate-controlled democracies, with which Koch-sucking Harper had Google mess with, to keep Canadians from accessing certain information he felt they shouldn't know/be able to verify, worse will be soon arriving and I'm very glad that at least some C-9ers are working out alternate communication methods with at least some others.

So, we'll never know what we don't know - we just know that a global pacific revolt against the global corporate hostile take-over is essential. And that attempts to break out of the two-party trade-off scam must be sustained and maintain a high level of vigilance because corruption spreads, it doesn't just go away, and papering it over to prop it up just helps it grow.