Somebody needs to protest the protestors
This idiot on CNN has become famous (sorry, can't figure out how to link the actual video--it's some kinda embedded thingie). Her money quote:
People on both sides are going to have to die
She's threatening to kill Trump voters? Is she accusing Trump voters of trying to kill her?
The man hasn't been sworn in yet. Nothing has even happened. We just had an election two days ago, when, p.s, none of these people were protesting in such massive numbers when it actually might've made a difference. Now it's over. Democrats lost. And to the public, all these protests reek of anti-democratic sore loserism. Three days ago Trump was a fascist for even suggesting he might not accept the results of the election, but now Democrats want to be seen as heroes for saying the same thing.
To be slightly fair, I think this ranting woman is worried about her family being split up if they get deported. Not clear if she was ranting when Obama was the one boasting about record-setting deportations, but whatever.
In any case, Trump hasn't done anything yet. So regular folks are just pretty mystified what the protestors are about.
Wait, it gets worse. Now, I realize media distorts protest reporting. But still, it looks like the protestors are attacking Trump for being racist, misogynistic, homophobic...you know, the exact same attacks that didn't work in the election two days ago. I'm hearing nothing about income inequality, globalism or elitism. Nothing about suggesting a Goldman Sachs banker to head up the Treasury Department. Nothing about proposing Sarah Palin for Interior. Nope. Just the same narrative we've been hearing: Trump's a racist, elected by racists.
I'm not here to defend Trump. I'm just saying: as long as liberalism/progressivism/Democrats are seen as all about identity politics, then Democrats will remain out of power. Permanently, if need be.
I want to see somebody protest a building that really, really needs protesting:
Seriously. Why isn't someone out there right now?
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It's an exercise in futility.
Seriously. Do you want us to protest our friends? The delusion is so thick that what we really need is an educational campaign. Start with the college students -- they seem the most confused of the whole bunch.
"To watch the leader of the most powerful nation on earth endorse and finance a genocide prompts not a passing kind of disgust or anger, but a severance." -- Omar el Akkad
What's an exercise in futility?
I think protesting the protestors would be hugely helpful. After Hillary, a lot of people think Democrats=upper middle class social justice warriors. There's nothing on TV to prove them wrong.
Yes, college kids are the worst. Little Cultural Revolution Cadres. If America goes full fascist, they'll be the catalyst.
No, it wouldn't.
All you will do will be to attract a bunch of Donald Trump supporters who will say "Nyah, nyah, you lost!" and other garbage.
At this point I really don't know what to say further. American politics is so hopelessly screwed up that it won't be resolved with a protest or two. Part of me wants to write an Encyclopedia of Things Democrats Tell Themselves. It would be pretty big. And then you have the Republicans! "Make America great again!" they tell themselves. How about if we tried to insure a habitable planet for everyone first?
Some time ago I imagined a protest sign that would attempt to demand the minimum requirements for a less screwed-up world. The sign had so many words on it that nobody could read it.
"To watch the leader of the most powerful nation on earth endorse and finance a genocide prompts not a passing kind of disgust or anger, but a severance." -- Omar el Akkad
I don't think I'm making myself clear
People are getting a very clear message on TV. Democrats are crybabies, sore losers, threatening violence and playing the race card again. That's what Democrats are.
What needs to be made clear is: That's not all Democrats. (Or liberals/progressives/lefties/my fingers hurt...)
Protesting almost never works, except sometimes.
And who's going to keep the Republicans out of this protest?
You?
"To watch the leader of the most powerful nation on earth endorse and finance a genocide prompts not a passing kind of disgust or anger, but a severance." -- Omar el Akkad
Both of you?
It was the college students in southern Michigan that helped Bernie during the primaries. It's those college students that are making life hell for governor whiplash Snyder. It's those students who made up a hell of a lot of votes for the greens this year.
What the fuck?
And this geezer is proud of our youth.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Yes, the college students have that advantage --
that they actually go out to protest. The problem with college-level protests is that there really isn't much leadership there because their professors are for the most part tenured fools. Part of me wants to start a university -- maybe I'll call it the University of Climate Change and Utopian Studies or something like that.
"To watch the leader of the most powerful nation on earth endorse and finance a genocide prompts not a passing kind of disgust or anger, but a severance." -- Omar el Akkad
Wow!
First it was the students.
Then they came for the teachers.
By the way, I know more than a handful of professors that would like to talk to you about protesting.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
That's nice.
Ph. D. The Ohio State University, Communication
M.A. Sonoma State University, English
B.A. University of California, Santa Cruz, Literature (English and Spanish)
Since July of 2009 I've been Visiting Professor of English, DeVry University Online.
I know who professors are.
"To watch the leader of the most powerful nation on earth endorse and finance a genocide prompts not a passing kind of disgust or anger, but a severance." -- Omar el Akkad
That's funny!
Are you one of these fools?
Or is it because you're not tenured that makes you the not a fool?
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
I don't know.
There are a few programs in the academic world that help students concentrate on changing things for the better. Community Studies and Environmental Studies at UCSC for instance. But on the other hand the bases for many of the "fields" that are taught in the university are not really based on a square notion of how society can be improved. Economics is perhaps the worst offender in this regard, as is any subfield connected in any way with rational choice theory. And then you have the "social justice warrior" syndrome in the academy, which has resulted in a vast distortion of perspectives. So I'm not saying that amidst all the noise there's no signal, but there's an awful lot of noise.
Most of the professors I knew at The Ohio State University, probably still America's second-biggest public university (#1, IIRC, was U of Minnesota), were at best wimpy liberals, the kind that could be counted on to vote for neoliberal Democrats.
Student protests can often become mere occasions for young individuals to wander around chanting and waving signs. There isn't any necessary connection with reality there.
"To watch the leader of the most powerful nation on earth endorse and finance a genocide prompts not a passing kind of disgust or anger, but a severance." -- Omar el Akkad
Chant, wave signs, and *bully* people — even unto death
as did groups of young individuals wandering around China during the so-called Cultural Revolution.
Thanks.
Isn't it easier to say what you think would be helpful, rather than degrade a certain class such as the tenured fools and the college students who you say are confused?
Again, thanks.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Blowing off steam. That's what humans do.
I don't see what it's going to get them, but then again bringing focus on racism isn't a bad thing. Trump is a racist, we have a racist for a President.
I'm not sure what protesting the DNC would change either. The Dem party is a lost cause.
Threatening to kill Trump voters is a bad thing
And it's all over the news.
If it were a Trump voter threatening the lives of Sanders or Hillary or Stein voters, nobody here would call it blowing off steam. But hey, no need to care how things look to regular voters. There are enough of us to win elections.
what protesting the DNC would change
What protesting the DNC would change is exactly this. It would inform millions who don't currently know it, that "The Dem party is a lost cause." It would encourage them to face and embrace that fact, and act accordingly, which may well eventually result in some fully empowered third party of the Left.
And, just to add a small extra zest of schadenfreude for those of us c99ers who are Daily Kos refugees, it would piss Markos Moulitsas off to no end!
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Why Protest The DNC HQ?
Just let the DNC die in peace. Hahahaha.
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If HRC had won, the protester would be a Trump supporter.
That was predicted by Trump supporters here,
here
and here.
I think these comments show that there is a visceral fear and loathing on both sides. Right-wingers are scared and disgusted by the liberal/left proposals for the country. Left-wingers are scared and disgusted by right-wing proposals. It's true that proposals might not be realized. But it's scary just to think that the opposition will be striving to achieve their aims from a position of power. We really do have conflicting visions and expectations for the nation. Seriously conflicting visions and expectations. Visions and expectations which can't be bridged by claims that, deep down, we all want the same things. Because, in many ways, we don't. In my opinion.
In response to your title, maybe Trump supporters will protest the protesters. Will that help?
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